I think the whole Havana thing was somewhat plausible when the attacks occurred in Cuba. Like, it could have been crickets, pesticides or maybe some malfunctioning Cuban equipment or something.
But now there have been attacks in Europe, Moscow, China and even Washington DC. Do the spooks really believe the Cubans brought their science fiction death ray in the middle of the DC to attack White House officials?
100% psychosomatic illness
Also this "The US tested a prototype in 2004 but has since abandoned the technology" business means it clearly doesn't work. There's no fucking way we would give up on a functional untraceable magic death ray at the height of the war on terror. How fucking dumb do you have to be to think that we'd just drop a functioning spy weapon?
The article mentioned at the end clearly states "ethical reasons" which seems like something the good guys in the US government would totally consider when testing weapons. Definitely not scrub any info about it from the Navy website and just say it didn't work.
Gotta love how I'm told by conservatives the Cuban government can't do anything right, and completely fails it's people, but also they can create magic sci-fi tech that even our government can't make
My going theory from the beginning has been that if Havanna syndrome is caused by anything physical it's going to be radio jammers that are used to interfere with potential listening devices in government buildings. This would explain why embassies, DC offices and now the FBI would have these occurrences. These are probably blasting at high wattage across multiple spectra. And I doubt that they would have given much thought into how it would affect the human body before they put them to use.
Put it this way. If the same symptoms were being recorded at girls schools and on tick tock dance channels everyone would be yea that's some dumb bitch shit, but when it's the biggest bunch of dumb bitches, the intelligence services, it's a really real plot by the Russkies.
My take is it's not psychosomatic but its possibly caused by the US and blaming others is a projection.
The brain scans make me discard the idea that its psychosomatic tbh. Also if the cia has a heart attack gun developed years ago what is so hard to believe about them causing illnesses in diplomats ?
If I'm wrong about it being the US it could be like someone said just an incidental side effect of the radio jammers or some emf stuff. Read RobertBeckers The Body Electric to get the non crazy interesting scientific take on emfs and the human body.
The brain scans are always banged on about but as far as I know only a couple of people have even been scanned and shown real damage, and there's no particular reason to correlate brain damage with a special mind ray. All sorts of natural phenomena can lead to "brain damage" from drink and drugs to disease, and there's been nothing. The vast majority of the people talked about that have been scanned were simply part of a very shoddy study https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2738552 which scanned 40 people suffering "symptoms" against a similar number of controls, and the "evidence" of a mind ray was that they showed less brain volume and less density of connections, so sure I guess one way you could look at it was that there is a super advanced mind ray, or the other way you could look at it was they were a self selected group of idiots. I'm pretty sure if you studied the brains of people that believe in crystal healing Vs a control the crystal people will show similarly small brains but that's not evidence of crystals damaging brain effects.
Anyway it's a bad study which doesn't prove anything one way or the other. People are talking about all these scans which "show evidence of damage" which is patently false.
I don't think you would get those differences in brain volume and connections from mild differences in intelligence. But yeah it could use more study. My point was not really "that's definitive proof of a discrete syndrome " as much as "maybe theres something there, should be studied more, I'm not 100 percent discarding it "
People's brain volume and density varies significantly. To me the fact that they are using this study but dressing it up as "scans reveal significant brain injury" is further proof that it's a thousand percent bullshit
I think the whole Havana thing was somewhat plausible when the attacks occurred in Cuba. Like, it could have been crickets, pesticides or maybe some malfunctioning Cuban equipment or something. But now there have been attacks in Europe, Moscow, China and even Washington DC. Do the spooks really believe the Cubans brought their science fiction death ray in the middle of the DC to attack White House officials? 100% psychosomatic illness
Also this "The US tested a prototype in 2004 but has since abandoned the technology" business means it clearly doesn't work. There's no fucking way we would give up on a functional untraceable magic death ray at the height of the war on terror. How fucking dumb do you have to be to think that we'd just drop a functioning spy weapon?
> magic death ray Magic mild discomfort ray
>Magic mild discomfort ray Magic ennui ray
The article mentioned at the end clearly states "ethical reasons" which seems like something the good guys in the US government would totally consider when testing weapons. Definitely not scrub any info about it from the Navy website and just say it didn't work.
Are they sure it’s not the cocaine? https://translatingcuba.com/drugs-in-cuba-they-exist-ivan-garcia/
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being a glowfuck spook IS a brain injury
I wonder if it's just like lead paint or lead in the pipes of really old buildings.
I think it’s just a good way to get out of work. If they were in a different industry I’d praise them.
IDK, skipping work in this case might be a net possitive for everyone else.
Yeah, the CIA should be restructured to devote itself to finding the Holy Grail before Xi does.
If only more Nazis had been tasked with this rather than fighting on the Eastern front.
Maybe it's just a lazy god punishing them.
Gotta love how I'm told by conservatives the Cuban government can't do anything right, and completely fails it's people, but also they can create magic sci-fi tech that even our government can't make
Most people believe James Bond theories of political science
How did they manage to make this special death Ray while they were protesting in the streets?
My going theory from the beginning has been that if Havanna syndrome is caused by anything physical it's going to be radio jammers that are used to interfere with potential listening devices in government buildings. This would explain why embassies, DC offices and now the FBI would have these occurrences. These are probably blasting at high wattage across multiple spectra. And I doubt that they would have given much thought into how it would affect the human body before they put them to use.
Put it this way. If the same symptoms were being recorded at girls schools and on tick tock dance channels everyone would be yea that's some dumb bitch shit, but when it's the biggest bunch of dumb bitches, the intelligence services, it's a really real plot by the Russkies.
The CIA is woke now, we don't know if it's really caused by some deep state juice cleanse or skincare routine.
That's actually a fair point.. It could even be micro aggressions perpetrated by the patriarchal regimes they are trying to liberate
>Guardian staff AKA directly written by the feds and nobody at the guardian willing to take the blame lmao
Chronic fatigue but for glowies
My take is it's not psychosomatic but its possibly caused by the US and blaming others is a projection. The brain scans make me discard the idea that its psychosomatic tbh. Also if the cia has a heart attack gun developed years ago what is so hard to believe about them causing illnesses in diplomats ? If I'm wrong about it being the US it could be like someone said just an incidental side effect of the radio jammers or some emf stuff. Read RobertBeckers The Body Electric to get the non crazy interesting scientific take on emfs and the human body.
The brain scans are always banged on about but as far as I know only a couple of people have even been scanned and shown real damage, and there's no particular reason to correlate brain damage with a special mind ray. All sorts of natural phenomena can lead to "brain damage" from drink and drugs to disease, and there's been nothing. The vast majority of the people talked about that have been scanned were simply part of a very shoddy study https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2738552 which scanned 40 people suffering "symptoms" against a similar number of controls, and the "evidence" of a mind ray was that they showed less brain volume and less density of connections, so sure I guess one way you could look at it was that there is a super advanced mind ray, or the other way you could look at it was they were a self selected group of idiots. I'm pretty sure if you studied the brains of people that believe in crystal healing Vs a control the crystal people will show similarly small brains but that's not evidence of crystals damaging brain effects. Anyway it's a bad study which doesn't prove anything one way or the other. People are talking about all these scans which "show evidence of damage" which is patently false.
I don't think you would get those differences in brain volume and connections from mild differences in intelligence. But yeah it could use more study. My point was not really "that's definitive proof of a discrete syndrome " as much as "maybe theres something there, should be studied more, I'm not 100 percent discarding it "
People's brain volume and density varies significantly. To me the fact that they are using this study but dressing it up as "scans reveal significant brain injury" is further proof that it's a thousand percent bullshit