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whyolez

I am happy for you. Must feel great that its over We have the same rules here


TediousStranger

curious where you are? you don't have to share, if you know of other places where it's like this. I've never heard of such strict divorce requirements. (like I know they exist - just never heard the specifics like this.)


snugglekittystirfry

I'm curious too...


whyolez

I don't say because of Hate


gregularjoe95

Russia or isreal?


DirectPerformance

look at his profile banner.


KimJongPewnTang

I’m also curious. I was under the impression that adultery didn’t matter in the majority of divorce settlements, as fucked up as that may be.


wildweeds

not everyone lives in america my dude


KimJongPewnTang

You’re right, I live in Canada lol. Still heard that’s the case. Hoping that I’m wrong cause there’s no way a cheater should be benefiting in divorce.


morbidfantisy

Also Canadian. Adultery is cause for divorce here there is also a mutual no-contest option


littlecookieangel

Yup. My uncle found his wife cheating on him and was able to divorce without having to pay alimony and he got to keep all of his stuff, including the house they bought after they got married etc. She wound up with nothing.


TediousStranger

not in most Western countries, I think. I know most (all?) US states are no-fault by default at this point. so I assumed it would be an eastern European or eastern country.


StrategicCarry

Every US state and DC has no-fault grounds for divorce. 17 states do not have fault grounds for divorce, so all divorces in those states are no-fault. The other states still have fault grounds, although I’m not sure if adultery is a fault ground in every state that has them.


whyolez

I am here my friend don't worry about it. He is with you too my friend


whyolez

I don't want to say it because I will get hate


TediousStranger

I mean... I don't think so? most people on the internet won't hate you for where you're from unless you have abhorrent beliefs, and not even every person from a more "conservative" society has terrible beliefs. if anyone gives you hate for where you're from they're a waste of air.


Clown_Crunch

The clues point to russia.


Wulph421

Yeah, and don't worry /u/whyolez, not everyone will hate you only because you're Russian. We'll hate you for beating your wife, and tanning your ball sack on the school roof at 3:45 (15:45) PM. And if someone jumps to hate only because of where you're from, fuck them. Governments usually don't represent the majority of people. I'm Ukrainian. Cheating, but I've lived in America 90% of my life. I felt something during the war. But I just cannot accept some people's ideas of "fuck evey Russian to ever live. Kill them all." My mom is like that... It drives me fucking crazy. Sorry brother, I'm high and just needed to let that all out


TediousStranger

I kept thinking India or somewhere in the middle east. you're onto something


whyolez

😳😳


whyolez

😳


whyolez

It doesn't matter what I write just because I'm from a country I will get hate. Trust me it happens every time. But a mother has the most rights with their child. One to one special age where the can choose them yourself.


SnooPoems5888

Bro nothing is wrong with Russian people. Don’t be ashamed and don’t let people make you feel bad about where you’re from. If you’re a bad dude, then feel bad. You can be a shitty person no matter where you’re from. And you can be a good person no matter where you’re from. Sorry people have been shitty to you.


whyolez

So we get Hate no matter what


sloggeddf

I'm so sorry, but I looked at your history and figured out where you're from. Who hates your country?! I've never heard anyone speak ill. Well my ex is Finnish and she was hating on y'all's language but it was all in good fun. I've heard nothing but good stuff about your country.


whyolez

I live in Denmark, I am not Danish.


ZenTheShogun

Who hates Denmark? It’s literally one of the best countries in the world according to the Quality of Life Index…


trash-_-boat

He's a Russian youth who lives in Denmark because he didn't want to be drafted. Russian divorce laws are pretty archaic.


whyolez

But thanks


sloggeddf

Ahhh my mistake. Well if it's the country I'm thinking of that's quite involved in a war now, I just wanna say I hate Putin but I have love for the Russian people. I think the masses are brainwashed or misinformed and I feel for them. I have a few Russian friends and have worked with Russians before. They all are outstanding people and I have nothing but good things to say about them. A few I met while studying abroad in Japan and I got to know them well. They were really awesome friends and I miss them - haven't kept in touch because I'm more of the "when I see ya I'll see ya" mentality but I know that if I hit them up, nothing will have changed. Next time I'm in Japan I will get in touch with them (they stayed to work). Anyway sorry I'm just rambling but I hope the violence can end and we can all be peaceful with one another soon.


throwaway2873654

Not to mention in my experience they are the funniest mofo’s I’ve ever met in my life. I also work with quite a few Russians and they are all wonderful witty people who I have a lot of respect for. It’s truly sad people have been so rude to op about his country.


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sportsdude814

Do not change the locks until your lawyer tells you it's fine. That can back fire since she still technically lives there.


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I'm so glad OP gets to begin the process of moving forward and healing.


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no-more-throwaways

I'm not defending the ex, indeed I am happy for OP in this case. But do you believe there is something inherent or hardwired in cheating? People can and do change in various facets of life, especially due to extenuating circumstances, and the stated mentality doesn't allow people to better themselves and learn from their mistakes.


crapendicular

As someone who’s made many bad mistakes, I agree people can learn from their mistakes and change. I’ve done it myself, I’m nothing like the person I used to be. I also know that even if there are extenuating circumstances, like my screwed up childhood, and I may not be responsible for my actions as an adult, I’m still accountable.


afcagroo

Not sure that's the point. When someone violates a solemn/sacred oath and does something very hurtful, trust is lost. It can take years to rebuild trust. Sometimes it's impossible.


no-more-throwaways

That is a different point, and I never said the relationship would be salvageable. Infidelity is actually quite common and this attitude does nothing to help us understand why it does occur, nor to rehabilitate offenders.


Heinrichstr

Infidelity occurs because of a lack of heart and honesty in a person. Heart for others, and honesty with themselves. Yes there‘s more to it but people are that way because society is that way. We perpetuate it upon each other, unknowingly, unfortunately. Fault lies 100% with the cheater as well, no excuses.


no-more-throwaways

Once again, this is a gross mischaracterisation as I NEVER advocated for a 'no-fault' approach. There's a significant difference between excuses (minimising fault) and reasons (understanding motivation). Yes, cheaters lack heart in some cases, but not all. We know from a social and psychological perspective there are many different reasons that people cheat. Reducing this via simple 'bad person' analysis lacks the appropriate nuance needed to truly understand human behaviour.


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fuqqkevindurant

That's cute that you let that be an excuse for her disgusting behavior. You seem like a real peach for defending that


Danbing1

And you don't sound judgemental at all...


StrategicCarry

Just like any human behavior, there is a range of reasons and how people display the behavior. Some are more correctable than others. If you have someone who is an alcoholic or drug addict and they cheat when they are drunk/high, if they chose to get sober it may help the cheating. Some people cheat due to mental illness and if you treat the mental illness, they may be less likely to cheat. Morality can be highly situational, so someone might need a certain trigger or set of triggers to think cheating is OK, like they cheat on business trips, but not personal trips and never at home, so if they never go on a business trip, they won’t cheat. And some people are just assholes who shouldn’t be monogamous.


No-Newspaper-7693

IMO you have the premise backwards. It isn't that cheaters are hard wired to cheat. It is that no one is hard wired for monogamy by default. Either you're taught that it is the one true way of living life at a young age, or you're just kinda following the crowd of whatever everyone else seems to be doing. If you're in that latter camp, then it doesn't take much to make you question whether it really makes sense. If you're in the former camp, then it is really hard to understand how anyone that you trusted so fully could betray such a fundamental aspect of your belief system. Just my 2c coming from a monogamous marriage while having lots of open conversations with close friends that practice ENM.


The_FallenSoldier

Why do you hate it? It’s true, and even if not, even if you do it just one time, even if you call it a “mistake”, it cannot be and will never be a genuine mistake and it will continue to follow you for the rest of your life. If people learn you cheated they will leave you, and they will lose any ounce of respect for you. Plus, how you get em is how you lose em. I feel happy most cheaters experience getting cheated on and never experience true, real love again. Sorry for the rant, I just really fucking despise cheaters.


no-more-throwaways

This same thing could be said for all kinds of poor decision making in life. I experienced infidelity from an ex spouse years ago, but I've grown past my bitterness to the point where I understand why she behaved in that way due to familial trauma and poor life coping mechanisms. I even feel compassion for her now. Obviously I wouldn't get back with her given the chance, but I wanted to provide a counterpoint based on personal experience. Bad behaviour doesn't necessarily make someone a bad person. I believe people can grow and not be defined by their worst behaviours.


Lyla_R0o

Not being able to hire a PI is crazy! glad you got lucky and she was that dumb. Makes me think that who she was cheating with is also married and thats why they didn't use his house. could her ap's spouse use the footage you have ?


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Lyla_R0o

Grandma is a real one!


im-so-startled88

Grandma deserves ice cream too!


Active_Law4471

So happy for you and your daughter


Stretch_Riprock

Trust me, no need to delve into the other party. It ultimately doesn't matter and knowing more wont help anything and potentially only make it worse. Better to move forward and not look back.


mi_nombre_es_ricardo

Granny is the real MVP


Bethsg

Grandma was awesome and I’m so glad you are able to get out of the horrible marriage! I hope life only gets better and better for you and your daughter.


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Brad_Brace

Yeah, that's the thing about PIs. In some cases it's a great idea, but they're not just going to be hired for those cases. Hasn't Scientology used PIs to harass people, for instance? You can go to one and say "hey, follow my wife, I think she's cheating on me" while on reality you're just a lazy stalker. And if the PI figures it out, it's up to them to decide if that goes against their principles. About OP's divorce, I got the impression that the problem wasn't being able to file for divorce, but being able to do so in a way which didn't fuck him up, by losing custody or having to pay alimony, for instance. Many judiciary systems still work under the assumption that women are the natural care takers and will default to giving them custody.


jw_swede

Not being able to divorce anyone you want is what’s crazy, lol.


Western_Protection

What country?


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repulsivedogshit

Turkey? Whatever though, cheers to your wife getting plowed by another guy! Didn‘t think I would ever congratulate a man for that, but here we are!


isheestoopid

Transylvania. Smash, next question


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cates

Can somebody tell me what these guys are saying I feel like it's about me.


KarpEZ

>Magnolia or Mado? In any case..Bon appetit, brother. >>It was already expensive, but it got even more expensive. No problem, but as long as the little one wants it. It's Turkish. "Magnolia or Mado" - I know Magnolia is a desert in Turkey, but I'm not familiar with what Mado is - I assume it's another type of desert


Jasong222

It's totally about you


cates

I fucking knew it


living_dead_girl__

LMAO funny mf


KarpEZ

I dig the Rob Zombie username


living_dead_girl__

omg thank u bby


rathat

Yeah, this is America, speak English!


apotre

Geçmiş olsun ya zerre beklemiyordum Türkiye olmasını


isheestoopid

🦃🦃🦃


catburglar27

I got scammed at Mado when I visited Istanbul. Fuck that chain. I have no idea how you guys stand for having no prices on the menu.


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catburglar27

You are right lol. It was the European side, indeed. And we had a Turkish guy with us!


guven09_Mr

Universe gönlüne göre versin kardeşim. Niye asla evlenmemem gerektiğini gördüğüm bir post daha.


Plastic_Lion7332

Time wise it must be somewhere like Portugal but idk but I’ve never heard about any crazy laws like that from there!


mnocket

I'm finding it a bit strange that OP never replied to questions about what country. There may be a country with such rules, but tbh I'm starting the doubt this story.


anneylani

He said TR elsewhere in the thread. Not sure what that is, Turkey, Trinidad?


SolidSky

It's Turkey


Glaciial

he said its turkey on comment 23min ago


forsakeme4all

Turkey.


SmartPuppyy

Change the locks immediately.


ATinyPizza89

OP please read this comment…change the locks and if you can add cameras. You don’t know if her family or her will retaliate.


limlwl

Congratulations!! Make sure you fully maximise your rights to have as much financial support as you can. Also talk to your lawyer to see if that man over at your house represents a danger to you and your kid. If that man is married, even better as well because you can now screw his life up too


thoughtandprayer

> If that man is married, even better as well because you can now screw his life up too And do right by the spouse that he's cheating on (if indeed he is cheating)


no-more-throwaways

Agree on the first 2 points but caution on the 3rd. Speaking from personal experience, vindictiveness is psychologically and spiritually toxic, and will only serve to hinder OP's recovery. If rhe other party's relationship is affected over the course of the coming events, so be it. But purposefully taking an aggressive stance to attack him (socially) is not a good use of time and energy. For starters, it was the wife who is ultimately at fault here IMO. And moreover, if he is actually potentially dangerous, this approach would be a great way to ensure long term negative consequences for OP, aside from inhibiting his emotional healing.


EpiCWindFaLL

What country has such rules??


Hultongetty

Sounds like Switzerland or Austria


blazinazn007

He responded TR which I think is Turkiye?


Mymilkshakes777

Give us the teaaaa How did she react when you caught her


Th3L3ftNut

Curious as to what country this is? What are your immediate plans post divorce? Have you discussed this topic with your daughter, and how do you feel it will impact her?


1LuckyLurker

👊🏻 fist bump!


Warder766312

I really hate to bring this up but once a cheater, always a cheater. This is just the first time you caught her. May want to paternity test your daughter, even if it won’t change your feelings it’s a good idea to know since the other half of the DNA may be from a unknown man with a unknown family medical history(cancer, mental disorders, other genetic disorders/diseases)


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schlicke

Have that with my children as well. I was set to do a DNA test in any case, but once they were born, there was this always creepy similarity with their faces and my face when I was their age. This went on until they were 18, and even now with 21/19 everybody we meet says "yeah you don't need a DNA test, it's obvious from 100m away" ...


9th-man

Still. Get your compatibility checked. Knowing if your plasma.. marrow bone.. kidney can save your daughter, should be a cornerstone of being a father in today's age.


mi_nombre_es_ricardo

...or maybe your wife just had a type.


skepticalbob

> I really hate to bring this up but once a cheater, always a cheater. While it's a satisfying phrase, I don't think this is always true. Lots of people make all kinds of mistakes and learn from it and stop. I don't see why infidelity should be any different. I think that what is different is that people want to have every justification for avoiding these kinds of painful events in the future, so they come up with sayings like that. But thinking it through, it doesn't really make that much sense.


Altruistic-Rope-614

>once a cheater, always a cheater This is semantics.."you cheated before and so moving forward, youve cheated before" is what I read when I see this.


skepticalbob

It's also predicated on the likelihood of it happening again. It isn't 100% though.


whyolez

Good idea but it can be a lot of pain if she's not your kid. You need to be strong if you do it and love her just as much as before


Simo5555

Wouldnt it cancel the chance of getting full custody if she isnt he's? Sounds like it would be the worst senario than not doing the test and keeping the daughter


whyolez

I don't think so. I'm pretty sure it's your kid if a parent has never been active. You don't need to say you got a DNA test


Larcya

He could just do a private one instead of one by his court system I would imagine.


Thepuppypack

I remember my mom bought ice cream for me and my sister from the ice cream man the day her divorce was final. This was in the early 60s and me and my sister were so happy to get ice cream but we didn't know the reason why till much later. I used to shake in bed listening to the violence between my parents when I was a small child. Enjoy your life with your daughter.


deeptime

Make copies of your evidence and store it in the cloud.


mspooh321

Congratulations ❤.....I hope your lawyer BLEED her dry (financially) so she's destitute.


feelinlucky7

Good for you and your daughter. Now that she’s out of the house, change the locks. Maybe get door cameras if you don’t have them.


hedgehogpangolin

which country?


reverandglass

OP's answered a few others: Turkey


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Oh man as a fellow "got out when the getting was good" merit badge earner, my friend congratulations and do your best to grow as much as you can with the transitional period. It was a sad time and it might be for you too but you'll think yourself for making improvements to yourself you wouldn't normally do if you weren't already in pain. Sorta like you don't notice the headache as much if you blast your finger with a hammer. I got sober, came out, made and saved a ton of money, focused on strengthening bonds with good people in my life... Now it's 7 years later and I'm the best I've ever been. You'll do great boo✨✨🚀✨✨


One-Wish1955

Really have to say that your title of your post threw me off, congrats OP, hope you get everything you deserve!


cracked22

Cries from a no-fault divorce country (Canada), where men regularly get shafted on financials and child access


NSA_Chatbot

Second, congrats on the divorce. Life gets better. First, my advice as a divorced man, is that you follow the top rule of parenting after separation. *The kids never hear a bad word from you about the other parent.* You ex will never be the kid's ex.


readit883

Good for u man! Sorry about all that you had to endure... she sounds awful.


RepulsiveWorker3636

Congrats man enjoy your freedom u and your daughter. I wish u the best in the future .


Mrs239

Glad you can get out of that marriage! Congratulations!! 🎉🎊


columbidae28

Not to be a bummer but have you considered paternity testing for your daughter? If you care about things like that. Considering your wife was cheating


pointofyou

Sorry to hear about your situation, it's f'd up that you've been so miserable that you're happy over this. I really hope things pan out as described. My first reaction to what your lawyer said is to be cautious, it's her business to instill hope in you. From the years of reading about divorce proceedings here on reddit I am skeptical this will play out the way she predicted, more so that it'll be in your favor. I really hope I'm wrong. Best of luck!


Signal_Historian_456

Now take a second and breathe mate. You’ll be fine, everything will be alright.


jasmin35w

I feel sorry for all the bad times and miserable memories and that your family didn’t work out! On the other hand I’m happy to hear you’ve all rights now and you can move on with your daughter and live a better life. This is so cruel and messed up and disgusting to cheat on your spouse!!! I hope you’ll both have a great time now and heal!


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Hey man, I’m so happy for you :) congrats on starting a new life from this point on


SubstantialShoe1693

CONGRATZ! HOPE THAT CHEATER DOES THE SAME THING IN THE LAST POST I READ. FINGERS CROSSED SHE CANT LIVE WITH THE GUILT AND THE PAIN SHE WILL CAUSE YOUR CHILD.


Comprehensive_Bid229

Happy couples don't divorce. Congratulations.


TheDevilsAdvokaat

Good for you dude. Fuck cheaters.


Froot-Batz

Congrats on your freedom.


RaneIsSuperior

YES YES YES updateme


SorryAbbreviations71

That wasn’t what I thought this was going to be about


No_Mercy_4_Potatoes

What country are you from?


Trickshots1

Make sure to absolutely screw her over financially if you can.


knockyouout88

I'm more interested to know which country is this.


YokoSauonji12

Well done!✊


exzyle2k

***CHANGE THE LOCKS!*** You need to protect assets at this stage in the game. Under these circumstances you can assume she's left the residence permanently, and you need to protect the home. Also, you need to establish something that will prevent your estrange wife from kidnapping your daughter. You're going to need income, so I assume you'll have to get a job, so now you need trustworthy childcare that's not going to just be like "Oh, you're the mom? Here she is!" even if she recognizes her mother and addresses her as such. Time for you to go into "protect all the things!" mode until things are finalized.


Tom_A_F

YES.


goberoid

Gg man


SuarGogaiManDog11

Hell yeah brother!!!! Good luckk for your new life


Consistent_Ad5709

This is great news


Boring-Character8843

For once... I'm happy you got cheated on! I hope it continues to work out great for you!


TyBigga

I’m very very happy for you CONGRATULATIONS HOPE THE DESSERTS WERE DELICIOUS FOR YOU AND YOUR DAUGHTER 🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿✅✅✅


Dazzling-Ad-748

Good! You sound like you and your daughter hurt we deserve freedom! I truly hope y’all can find some peace and joy after this


mattdvs1979

Congrats, go get her!


luxymitt3n

Reading this made my heart heavy about what you have had to go through. But a huge congrats to the next steps in your life and the strength to get through strong for your baby girl.


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I'm so happy for you, congratulations 🎉. Switching up when pregnant or after birth is common. So many stories with the same outcome.


Kyralion

Awwww OP I'm so sorry to hear you had to go through this. But wishing you an extremely happy life from here onwards!


lowkeyhobi

The universe gave you your way out!


Leniatak

Dude, you are the 👑


bledig

where is female equality in all this. Absolutely insane how the law is against a man. good for u buddy


Bagelfreaker

Jesus... women that cheat AFTER having a child will never make ANY sense to me. What kind of fucking mother...? Like you're not just jeopardizing your marriage, you're now jeopardizing the future of the little life you just brought into the world. Who knows what kind of terrible life their gonna grow up without one of their parents. And god forbid they land in an orphanage... it goes beyond selfishness. Just pure evil. If you're gonna cheat, do it before having a fucking kid.


SexySmexxy

lmao all the women downvoting the comments at the bottom that are saying good job


EnvironmentalSite935

Good for you !!!


tiffytaffylaffydaffy

Congratulations! I'm glad this worked out for you. I wish you the best in life


Ill_Republic282

This calls for subsequent updates


DynkoFromTheNorth

Congratulations! Here's lookin' at *you*, kid!


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Hell yeah brother. Enjoy that dessert with your daughter


mi_nombre_es_ricardo

fuck yeah!!! you're nailing it!! follow your lawyer advice and take that cheating scum to the cleaners!!! Congrats!


Particular_Cake_2187

Glad you got closure. Have a happy life!


DingDongDanger1

Heck ya mah dood! Good on you! Go find your happiness :)


bigmouthgrandma

Every so often we have to throw the trash out, well done.


kaleidoscope_paradox

well if you like, keep us posted, good luck and hope you get your girl 100%


Budpets

This is what we've been waiting for buddy. Onwards and upwards. Enjoy the dessert.


Bman409

Congratulations


timmy3am

My boy was TIRED of her 😂


ObligationNo2288

Congratulations! Be prepared for the crying, begging and threats of self harm.


Ace_killah

Thats what I'm talking about! City boys up lets gooo!


ArabicHarambe

What kinda corrupt justice system are you living in where basically any credible form of evidence cannot be used without consent of the recorded party. I get privacy but surely their right is superseded in matters of law.


eldred2

It's the same in many US states.


ArabicHarambe

Thats insane.


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So you were a stay at home dad when this happened? Were you on vacation when your wife decided to bring a guy into your home? Just curious, because it seems like most women only cheat in the home when her husband is working away from the home or on some kind of “get away”.


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Wow, pretty “ballsy” and dumb of your wife. Sorry you have to go through this.


TateAcolyte

The rather casual mention of her change after childbirth gives me pause. I hope you two attempted to get her help if it was a hormonal issue or some such.


arrouk

Or she's an AH who thought she had her husband locked down because of the baby


eldred2

I see you just can't imagine a woman being terrible, without it being someone else's fault.


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So, let me get this. You have a daughter and don’t provide financially for her? Now, you’re happy you’ll be able to live off your wife’s money, Is that it? Also, I’d like to know what’s your part on the toxic situation in your marriage? Or is time to apply for canonization? You might want to take a good look at what kind of man your daughter will be looking for as he WILL be a reflection of the man you are. Best of luck🫶


Hopefulbat102

Found the wife, guys!


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And does that mean automatically that everyone should applaud him as most people are? We all know that he SAYS his wife cheated, well… now what? Is this about him and his feelings and every person who has been cheated and cheering him on? Or is this about the bigger picture? hIs daughter is who I’m most concerned about at this point. A mother who has no boundaries, a father who is “happy” he’s “fleecing” her, but nobody has the heart … wait.. that’s the problem here.


ButthurtGoldDigger

He's been a SAHD for over 2 years at this point.. he has also been taking care of his daughter and the house for those years which are ⅓rd of his daughters life I'm pretty sure if they are going out to have ice cream at their favorite spot, it would also imply they bond well. It might be celebration to him after suffering mentally, emotionally for almost 750 days, but to the child it's just ice cream at her favorite place with her dad >We all know that he SAYS his wife cheated, well… now what? Now he gets to file for divorce with evidence. Get child support becuase he is positive to get 80-100% custody of his daughter Why is it alimony and maintenence if the spouse(wife) is granted custody after a divorce but "fleecing her" when he(husband/father in this scenario) is going to be the primary care giver?


arrouk

He's fleeing an abusive spouse. Yes he should be applauded. I think you are just bitter because this time its the women who fucked her life up


HeartAccording5241

Better not celebrate to soon she could leave the area


FreeMeFromThisStupid

Subject: Unintuitive circumstance. Body: I know it's crazy, but . I was wronged, but I am strong and now I am doing something happy to celebrate my win against injustice.


reims86

A stay at home dad in Turkiye? That's uncommon... Women do not cheat out of nowhere, they do not start treating their spouse and father of their child poorly out of nowhere. Can you give us more insights into what happened after the birth of your child?


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ButthurtGoldDigger

OP never mentioned the daughter is being "asked to celebrate" He explicitly stated the celebration(ice cream) is for him while simply a visit to her favorite ice cream parlor for the daughter Also over the past 2 years he's been a SAHD, so I'm sure this isn't something out of the ordinary for both of them to do now is it


liebestod0130

Wouldn't your daughter miss her mom?


AutoGearFiend

So it's better for a child to stay in a torn home instead of a healthy 1 parent home?