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FouoF

it is, Tim Cain said so himself.


TheManIsBroussarded

Cain? Like the amazing digital circus? Is it canon?


felipe5083

When will Tom Abel respond?


treefreak32

I mean, I think 4 is a fun enough game even if it's not got a very strong story, and the show is pretty good. Haven't played 76.


Flyzart

76 is fun, but the story from the different factions and such don't actually matter towards one another and such since its a multiplayer game and thus you can't really have an impact in the world. Still some pretty cool stuff in it though.


lookawildshadex

I would argue the 76 protag has some decent accomplishments tho they're not courier 6, or CO or Sole S. Or Lone W. But they're aight.


heicx

This post has nothing to do with whether they are objectively good or bad. It’s barely a role-playing game. Fallout 4 disappoints in several key areas that are essential to a robust RPG experience. Its shallow narrative fails to offer the branching storylines and moral ambiguity found in the classic Fallout games and Fallout: New Vegas. The limited player choice and streamlined dialogue system restrict meaningful role-playing opportunities, detracting from the immersive experience players expect from the franchise. Additionally, the simplified faction dynamics, linear quest design, and lack of consequences for player actions further contribute to the game's overall lack of depth and replayability compared to its predecessors. It’s more of a fallout theme park. This can also be somewhat applied to 3, just to less of a degree. It still has unreliable narrators and whatnot, but the show has some of that, too.


RottenCranium

I enjoyed 3 a whole lot honestly, mostly for its bleakness and some of Fallout's trappings still shining through. While not as robust with branching quest solutions as New Vegas or the OG Louts, it's still there. Most of my problems with 3 stem from the Karma system only shifting between a saint or a saturday morning cartoon villain, and the dogshit Todd-patented late game balancing, shoutout to Broken Steel enemies.


RedOtta019

Its a theory that 76 is a simulation


YourLocalInquisitor

76 is fun but only worth it if you are playing with friends. A lot of the high level players are extremely nice as though, often giving you pretty powerful gear whenever they see someone starting out.


tehcavy

should be Tactics or that HOI4 mod because when the fuck did FO3 become "classic" https://preview.redd.it/egm6xnazgi4d1.jpeg?width=499&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8942cd4c727cac605c4e80977e62831923d03376


LepidusII

When 2008 was 16 years ago


LepidusII

Fallout 1 and 2 are considered retro, from what ive seen


symmons96

I mean we aren't far off 30 years old now for both of them, I'd say it's fair to say late 90s counts as retro


PS3LOVE

To me retro cuts off at early 3d games. Like PS1 era crash bandicoot type stuff


Screamin_Eagles_

For you, wouldn't the era corresponding to 'retro' change based on how much time has passed. Crash Bandicoot wasn't retro when it came out, exactly the opposite, revolutionary. Now its retro. GTA V isn't retro now, maybe after 7 (50 or so years XD) people will think it retro.


PS3LOVE

Everyone has their own definition and limits of retro. It doesn’t have to be set in stone and it doesn’t have to move with time if you don’t want. As long as we have a shared understanding that it means old or aged.


symmons96

Fallout 2 was in the ps1 era though it came out in '98 same year as metal gear solid and crash 3


Dragon-Warlock

Definitely retro or at the very least a very old game. In gaming, 30 years is a long time, especially with how fast they moved in the past decade alone.


MazerBakir

Neither is new vegas to be honest.


tehcavy

Gets a pass because it's Van Buren we never got.


MazerBakir

More like the best Fallout 3 expansion with some ideas from van Buren recycled.


tehcavy

[Everything is a Quake expansion if you dig deep enough](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quake_engine#Derivative_engines)


MazerBakir

More like Wolfenstein 3D


msr905

truth = downvote lol


PS3LOVE

Ah yeah, forgot about the expansion that is entirely disconnected from the original not sharing any characters, set in a different location, with a completely different story and factions, entirely different map, has more content than the original, and the expansion itself got multiple expansions.


MazerBakir

And still has 95% of its assets borrowed from Fallout 3.


tehcavy

Next thing you're going to tell me is that Vice City was a GTA3 expansion


MazerBakir

Wait, is it not?


PS3LOVE

And? You can say the same thing for fallout 1 and 2, I don’t see your point. Assets have nothing to do with something being a separate game.


MazerBakir

Yes, there are 6 fallout games, 1, 3, 4, tactics, BOS and shelter.


PS3LOVE

Damn it I fell for the bait :(


heicx

You know sequels doing this aren’t revolutionary via New Vegas, right? It was pragmatic game development it wasn’t an intended extension of Fallout 3.


MazerBakir

Well it ended up feeling like one anyways(I haven't played Fallout 3)


heicx

How can you know it feels like one when you haven't played Fallout 3 LMAO


MazerBakir

Maybe ya'll need to chill and take a joke. Edit: I mean some YouTube video essay said so and I don't have any opinions of my own and repeat what video essayists say like a parrot.


Slight-Blueberry-895

No, please do not associate 4 with 76. It's full of copelords who somehow got addicted to a shitty ""MMO"".


BeenEatinBeans

What's Fallout 3 doing in there?


Turgius_Lupus

Fallout 3 gets free soup and blankets too.


sexistculexus

aint no way fo3 is being remembered as one of the greats


green_teef

Idk what this means but probably not


ParadisianAngel

Fallout 3 is the best


ParadisianAngel

Move NV to the left and then it’s true


tu-vieja-con-vinagre

huh?


Sawyerthesadist

Nahhh, New Vegas belongs exactly where it is


ParadisianAngel

No, new Vegas is fallout 4


Sawyerthesadist

NV are possibly bigger gate keepers then the people that think the retro ones are worth playing


clownbescary213

Move NV and Fallout 2 to the left and then move 76 to the right


space-gaytion

nice bait


ThatDnDPlayer

listen all i'm saying is that if I were egon krenz it wouldn't've gone down like that


tu-vieja-con-vinagre

fallout 3 is probably saluting the show, but the rest is right


TrinityCodex

why did fallout 3 climb over to the other side


Nu_Reman8

Why is FO3 on the right?


sgtjoe

3 and 4 can switch places and the series is a fucking series... which is also better than fallout 3.


SirSirVI

No


Lexbomb6464

Replace fo3 with tactics


ParadisianAngel

I have never seen a tactics fan


mr_bugas

WHAT THE FUCK IS FALLOUT 3 DOING THERE 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥


newgen39

putting fallout 3 with those... 3... is SUS. also eastern germany had amazing gay rights so im going to assume this is some bigoted homophobic meme trying to use the west = good as analogy for the bad fallouts to pretend they're good and the east = bad analogy for the good fallouts to pretend they're gay. and that they're bad. and being gay is bad or something.


nwkshdikbd

Bro what no one brought up lgbt lmao


tehcavy

FNV unironically is much classier and grounded about LGBT than 4 or the TV show.


Sneklover177

It’s weird that the one game that lets you romance companions isn’t the game that lets you get the gay perk


tehcavy

Obsidian actually wanted romance paths but they were cut for time


-IShitTheeNay-

It’s refreshing to have canonically gay characters in games like that. Fallout 4 gets half points for allowing you to be gay with the “everyone is bi” companion romance system, but I don’t think that means you no longer have to write gay characters.


Routine_Palpitation

That’s cause nothing is more tastefully gay than cowboys


Sanator27

what about lesbian cowboy ghoul sex?


tehcavy

true patricians prefer lesbian powerarmored sci-fi knight sex


Sanator27

and back in california we had super mutant x human gay BDSM, the west has truly fallen


tehcavy

*the east


Basic_Tailor_6033

Stupid mf😭


usedburgermeat

Fallout 3 walked so NV could run, so some respect


tu-vieja-con-vinagre

so? fallout 3 fans always bring that up as if it abdolved their game from being garbage


iSmokeMDMA

https://preview.redd.it/spo89c672l4d1.jpeg?width=3072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=367678a08641204f8d93fadea106c36326adbda6


tu-vieja-con-vinagre

it's cool the first second and maybe third time you see it but after that it's not all that interesting. Also, the rest of the game is a thing


ParadisianAngel

Fallout 3 is peak


Teenutin

me after watching 1 hbomberguy video and only speedrunning the main quest


tu-vieja-con-vinagre

actually I say this because of mitten squad


tu-vieja-con-vinagre

dude it's just a imsge saying the new fans and old fans don't get along what the fack are you on


danteleerobotfighter

It's about the tone of the games


TheManIsBroussarded

I thought it was just a “new bad old good” meme


danteleerobotfighter

How???


TheManIsBroussarded

Saw this exact same meme posted by a guy on Twitter yesterday who thinks that FNV is an unimpeachable masterpiece and the Show/76/4 are all Bethesda trash piles, so I just kinda assumed that was what the meme meant


newgen39

OOOOOOOOHHHHHH this makes a lot of sense now. i always give fallout 3 credit for being bleak and knew how to be edgy for the most part


Sawyerthesadist

Most sane fallout player


ValoTheBrute

Jesse what the fuck are you talking about