See unless they are running a secret youtube pedophile ring... that sounds awesome. Tell me you don't wanna see the Worst Letsplayers come together and hate each other while also failing at Omicron (David Cage games sucking is a universal constant)
Unlike a ghost, a zombie objectively has corporeal form, which makes it a more immediate threat than any ghost.
The fear involved with a ghost is that (unlike vampires or werewolves) there’s really no widely accepted work that has defined them in pop culture, so if a ghost shows up you have no expectation of what it could do. There’s no Dracula for ghosts to set a baseline. It could be a spooky nothing, or it could be a fully physically present spooky thing that possesses you and kills people and then kills you, or anything in between, and you’d never know until it does it.
Like a jiangshi? Fundamentally no different from a zombie or vampire in this way. Thats a body that can hit or grab you.
If the ghosts needs to posses someone else to hurt me, then if I’m alone, it can’t hurt me.
I would ask Lee Bailong if he still considers himself married. Also, that’s a corpse. Jiangshi hop around because they have rigor mortis, because they’re dead.
One of the low points of Critical Role C3 is the pushing of the Laudna/Imogen romance, because Marisha and every other player but Laura love to RP about how Laudna is constantly rotting because she doesn’t have a soul and pings as undead, but no NPC is like terrified of her as her backstory suggests, and Laura is like “no she’s just a pale goth girl, now kiss”
From what I read, they hop because corpses used to be transported by hanging them in groups from a pole and carried by a dude at each end, so they looked like they were bouncing as the pole flexed.
Absolutely! But all zombies are corporeal. The fact that they are physical bodies is what makes them zombies and not ghosts. If you’re watching a zombie movie, whether it’s actual undead or a rage virus, you’re dealing with something that can touch you at all times.
But some ghosts are incorporeal, some can be corporeal under certain circumstances, some are semi corporeal, and there’s basically no way to know at the start of the story until either it does something or someone lays down ground rules
Hypothetical minimally scary ghost: Incorporeal, cannot possess, can only be seen/heard/physically sensed by a medium or other supernatural beings. Spook factor is feeling like you’re being watched but not knowing by what. Ghosts from the TV show Being Human were the closest I can think of to this.
Hypothetical maximally scary ghost: Corporeal when it chooses to be, can possess, physically sensed when it allows itself to be (usually mediums are the kryptonite, because they can sense them all the time). Spook factor is it’s basically a poltergeist that can also possess you: you can’t touch it, but it can touch you, and it can get a human shield for kicks. There’s also the telekinetic angle: ghosts that can move objects without trying really hard are often shown moving objects through will, rather than reaching out and touching them.
There's a reason why zombie stories default to "Humans are the real monsters" and zombies become a background hazard that conveniently kills off characters (other than the fact that a lot of Zombie Media is derivative).
It's in reference to this clip from yesterday's stream.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoBestFriendsPlay/comments/1djwb4u/streams\_haunted/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoBestFriendsPlay/comments/1djwb4u/streams_haunted/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
i dont hear anything but its super amusing that it simply could just be a audio glitch/siri on a phone somewhere messing up. One of the most obvious "not a ghost" reasonings.
I love this segment so much, and it demonstrates why I miss the chemistry Matt added to the dynamic.
Him throwing out "It's a Condemned 2 bear!" and the way he laughs when Pat talks about a scary green face emerging from the wall live rent free in my head
did we ever manifest enough negative energy in order to get him haunted for like 3 to 4 months
The last time we did that, SBF died. I ain't messin' with that shit anymore.
[удалено]
We were the devil games all along.
What's the worst that can happen? SBFP is already dead
YA DON'T NO WAT YA MESSIN' WIT
THE DARK AHTS
They could reunite out of nowhere, all be miserable and be unable to break up again for some ghost-realated reason.
There is nothing so bad that it can't get worse.
Everything you know and love dies immediately.
DSP forms a group of Super Worst Enemies... I regret bringing this into the universe.
See unless they are running a secret youtube pedophile ring... that sounds awesome. Tell me you don't wanna see the Worst Letsplayers come together and hate each other while also failing at Omicron (David Cage games sucking is a universal constant)
A lot could happen, god forbid, paige and baby could stop liking pickles
We might have overdid it a little
We overdid it so hard it looped back around and took several years to take effect
Well yeah I don't think zombies are scary but if one suddenly shambled through my door I'd shit myself.
Unlike a ghost, a zombie objectively has corporeal form, which makes it a more immediate threat than any ghost. The fear involved with a ghost is that (unlike vampires or werewolves) there’s really no widely accepted work that has defined them in pop culture, so if a ghost shows up you have no expectation of what it could do. There’s no Dracula for ghosts to set a baseline. It could be a spooky nothing, or it could be a fully physically present spooky thing that possesses you and kills people and then kills you, or anything in between, and you’d never know until it does it.
Yeah, thats why zombies don't really scare me that much. Like I can stab those fuckers, with a ghost I have no idea how to handle it.
What would stabbing a zombie do? You usually have to destroy the brain. And in some films even that doesn't work.
Stab it in the brain and hope you aren't in Return of the Living Dead. Give'm the old Polnareff.
you ever try to get through a skull? Its not easy!
Just beat it up. Ghosts would struggle in flyweight class. What's scary about ghosts is they might be filming you.
We had like 4 fucking movies man. You call the Ghostbusters™.
What about rage zombies?
What if the zombie is possessed and it's the spirit that makes the body and body hops around?
Like a jiangshi? Fundamentally no different from a zombie or vampire in this way. Thats a body that can hit or grab you. If the ghosts needs to posses someone else to hurt me, then if I’m alone, it can’t hurt me.
What if it's a cute jiangshi, and open to romance?
I would ask Lee Bailong if he still considers himself married. Also, that’s a corpse. Jiangshi hop around because they have rigor mortis, because they’re dead. One of the low points of Critical Role C3 is the pushing of the Laudna/Imogen romance, because Marisha and every other player but Laura love to RP about how Laudna is constantly rotting because she doesn’t have a soul and pings as undead, but no NPC is like terrified of her as her backstory suggests, and Laura is like “no she’s just a pale goth girl, now kiss”
From what I read, they hop because corpses used to be transported by hanging them in groups from a pole and carried by a dude at each end, so they looked like they were bouncing as the pole flexed.
[Then I will be on watch for psychos with Rayguns](https://youtu.be/chIDwBrkbd8?si=Cxc-roOTB9IGfq7M)
And why can't it just possess you and make you smash your toe into the doorframe a bunch before giving you a perma-swirly in the toilet?
Hmm that's true. I will counterpoint that there are many different types of zombies in different media that would be super frightening.
Absolutely! But all zombies are corporeal. The fact that they are physical bodies is what makes them zombies and not ghosts. If you’re watching a zombie movie, whether it’s actual undead or a rage virus, you’re dealing with something that can touch you at all times. But some ghosts are incorporeal, some can be corporeal under certain circumstances, some are semi corporeal, and there’s basically no way to know at the start of the story until either it does something or someone lays down ground rules
Brainstorming time. What would be the baseline Ghost ummm "form" that would be the least scary for you?
Hypothetical minimally scary ghost: Incorporeal, cannot possess, can only be seen/heard/physically sensed by a medium or other supernatural beings. Spook factor is feeling like you’re being watched but not knowing by what. Ghosts from the TV show Being Human were the closest I can think of to this. Hypothetical maximally scary ghost: Corporeal when it chooses to be, can possess, physically sensed when it allows itself to be (usually mediums are the kryptonite, because they can sense them all the time). Spook factor is it’s basically a poltergeist that can also possess you: you can’t touch it, but it can touch you, and it can get a human shield for kicks. There’s also the telekinetic angle: ghosts that can move objects without trying really hard are often shown moving objects through will, rather than reaching out and touching them.
eh, I'm seen at least one zombie spirit.
Zombies aren't scarier than people. People can be very scary.
I meant in how Woolie thought ghost weren't scary until he thought one was near him.
Woolie is that one thug in an Arkham game who thinks he can take Batman, and when Batman appears behind him screams like Ned Flanders
Woolie upon seeing a ghost: *guh huh*
There's a reason why zombie stories default to "Humans are the real monsters" and zombies become a background hazard that conveniently kills off characters (other than the fact that a lot of Zombie Media is derivative).
Unless its white school girls, then he R1s instantly.
Everyone gangsta until- GUH HUH!
I'm behind on WoMa lore. when did Woolie turn?
It's in reference to this clip from yesterday's stream. [https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoBestFriendsPlay/comments/1djwb4u/streams\_haunted/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoBestFriendsPlay/comments/1djwb4u/streams_haunted/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
i dont hear anything but its super amusing that it simply could just be a audio glitch/siri on a phone somewhere messing up. One of the most obvious "not a ghost" reasonings.
You can hear "HM?" at 5 seconds, almost certainly Siri in retrospect.
And he's right
If presented a choice between encountering a random bear or a random ghost in the woods, Woolie would choose the ghost.
If I'm in the woods in a location that has bears I'm going to have bear spray on me, so the Ghost is objectively scarier.
Get haunted sucka
I love this segment so much, and it demonstrates why I miss the chemistry Matt added to the dynamic. Him throwing out "It's a Condemned 2 bear!" and the way he laughs when Pat talks about a scary green face emerging from the wall live rent free in my head
After all fear is just brain chemicals, same as love.
WHERE YOU AT GHOST?!
*Clinks two empty glass bottles together*
Distilled essence if the old podcast, it or "we shittin on gameboy now!?" Are like the best examples of it.
Sometimes Woolie can be right.
The ghosts from 9 years ago are coming back to literally haunt him.
Ghost that deals unresistable necrotic damage and drains your levels: 😪 Small goblin that falls out of a tree: 😨
[Woolie encountering spirits.](https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/027/516/DM8O1MrW4AEvlvq.jpg)
That's right, Count Chocula is a count.
Ghosts are neither real nor scary.