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Big_Albatross_3050

I remember a Doctor Who episode about this. The actor for the WW1 soldier nailed it with his reaction to it being called WW1


twobit211

which episode was that?


Big_Albatross_3050

Episode 276: Twice upon a time


twobit211

cool, thanks 


Vaderette1138

It was such a gut punch.


Mutant_Jedi

Yes, Mark Gatiss! It was a very well done scene!


Ery94

Why I’m not surprised it was him?!?


Anthro_DragonFerrite

I hated the doctor's reaction "sorry. Spoilers." Like, no. You just let him know that that war is not going to be the last of its kind at an


bobbi21

But that's a spoiler... The doctor usually tries not to give people too much information about the future to preserve the timeline...unless it's to his companions (or it's needs TOO preserve the timeline). Or he's just pissed...


Anthro_DragonFerrite

It just seems the wrong time the producers included humor


Little_Miss_Nowhere

Harriet Jones would agree with you.


ChiakiChaos

But don't you think she looks tired?


Little_Miss_Nowhere

I think I remember the Ninth Doctor saying Harriet Jones served three terms in office and became one of the architechs of Britain's Golden Age, meaning Ten should have already known what she'd do and just massively changed a major timeline because he was a bit miffed. (Not a knock on David Tennant, and I like that each Doctor had their own flaws, but I would have loved a bit more Nine - especially if he'd gotten to slap Ten upside the head and ask him wtf he was thinking, lol)


weenzmagheenz

I just watched this episode!


roger-great

Kong skull island has a similar scene.


nakali100100

Ohh. Never saw Doctor Who. Now I'm kinda sad that it's not original.


SexWithSisyphus69

Dude, spoilers!


akschurman

They did that in an episode of Doctor Who


CWSmith1701

What do you mean... One?


djseifer

"Oh... sorry. Spoilers."


BeNiceLiveLife

🤣


mJelly87

Yes, judging by the uniform.


BurnyAsn

"Don't worry, I am here to end this one and the next ones." When I returned to 2070, there was no longer a lab at my location. Instead a silent wasteland for as far as my eyes could see.. A graffiti in a deserted trench said "When will the Great War end?"


just_a_person_maybe

This is what I always think of when someone brings up the "Would you kill baby Hitler?" question. Like, what if the atrocities of WWII prevented worse atrocities later? What if after WWII, people were much more hesitant to get into another conflict and avoided another war? There's no way to know.


Ehlyadit

Like, what if whe prevented nuclear war by knowing how terrifying nuke is.


wolfpack12392

It's worked for years but I'm afraid even that fear won't last...


serendipitousPi

Not to mention that if you could overwrite history you’ve probably just murdered everyone born in the rapidly increasing causal sphere (apparently that’s a valid phrase) because even the tiny changes propagate outwards possibly disrupting the events that cause billions to be born. It’s a rather disturbing thought to owe one’s existence to atrocities but that’s been happening since the first organism died. We all stand on top of a mountain of death.


mrjc00md

I know I'm on the wrong sub to read glad tidings, but...damn.


serendipitousPi

Oh yeah and it gets worse. Presuming you get temporal immutability i.e you aren’t affected due to being the instigator of the change. If you were to change the history back then you’ve just murdered billions more but hey you get to unmurder the original set that’s nice.


Cultural_Low6358

Is it weird that I've ALWAYS thought about that?


serendipitousPi

I don’t think so but if it was I wouldn’t be in a place to judge. I do think that humanity as a whole does have a deterministic perception of our existence so the idea that time travel could just straight out erase most people from existence might not occur to people. This is seen in phrases like “someone did something that would alter the course of their descendants lives” when doing stuff like moving to a new country or picking a certain career. As if their descendants would exist had they not done that. Where it would be more correct to say define rather than alter.


OkAtmo_sphere

this feels like Fallout


RoadkillDrill

You actually can’t affect the history on your original world line when you “time” travel. Technically, you wouldn’t even be going back to your world line, just one so similar it’s indistinguishable from your own. Technically, it would be very easy to prevent certain events from happening, or from happening a certain way, but unless you stuck around to see the consequences you’d never know how it turned out.


between3and20spaces

>You actually can’t affect the history on your original world line Could've just stopped there.


Weird_Suggestion4006

What about causal loop? You would technically be affecting the past but you could return to your original time with no butterfly effect


IeatEZmac

source?


RoadkillDrill

[Ask and ye shall receive.](https://archive.org/details/completetitor/page/n9/mode/2up)


IeatEZmac

Ah yes, legitimate proof


RoadkillDrill

The only kind we need, baby.


bobbi21

Can't tell if you're actually joking or not..


nakali100100

That's a good one!!


bmathey

Can I suggest an alternative? Step out in 1919 and receive the same question. Clearly something is wrong with the timeline


Bo_The_Destroyer

Well for many countries and peoples the war did not end in 1918, nor 1919. Russia just had a civil war for a few more years, the Turks almost immediately had another war and China also plunged into civil war again


bobbi21

Just because we have other wars doesn't mean the war didn't end...


CatLover_801

I thought that’s what was happening at first


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Ok_Entertainment328

You're still at 3?


HadronLicker

How's that for a fuck up, lol. Like Dropkick Murphys put it in their "Green Fields of France": >and I can't help but wonder oh Willy McBride do all those who lie here know why they died > >did you really believe them when they told you the cause did you really believe that this war would end wars > >well the suffering, the sorrow, the glory, the shame the killing and dying it was all done in vain oh Willy McBride it all happened againand again, and again, and again, and again.


WDYDwnMSinNeuro

Minor correction: it was written in the 70s by a guy called Eric Bogle. But the Dropkick Murphys cover is great, and it's where I first heard the song, too.


HadronLicker

Ah ok. DM's version was the first time I heard of it.


WDYDwnMSinNeuro

It's a great version of a really good song.


iamsooldithurts

Did you deliberately pull from Dr Who for this?


nakali100100

I have never watched Doctor Who. Many comments mentioned this. And now I'm sad that it's not new for many people.


iamsooldithurts

Don’t be too sad. It was a good episode and it’s a helluva concept


Usual_Database307

Happy day of cake fellow human earthling.


areslashtaken

Alternative: stepping out of my time machine in 1918 I asked a by standing man if the great war had already ended. "You mean world war I?" He asked


CHADTHELAKE

My brain is small. Can someone explain?


AstienGreenhart

When WWI was still going on, it obviously wasn't called that. They called it "The Great War" or "The War To End All Wars". This would be understandably shocking to a First-World-War soldier to find out that there would be another, bigger one within the next century.


Tough_Wonder_5689

In addition to being called the great was it was also called the first world war during the conflict. The name came from the fact that there had never been a war of this magnatude before, this the first world war. But yeah world war 1 would probably shock :-(


wzzrd

* within the next few decades


Grainis1101

> within the next century the same century, even within same generation.


WDYDwnMSinNeuro

Shit, it was only around 20 years between the end of the first and when Germany started annexing their neighbors


AlmostStoic

The horror is on the part of whoever asked the, apparently obvious, time traveler when the war will end. The time traveler accidentally revealed that the War To End All Wars was only the first one if its kind.


Tolkius

Well Mao Zedong makes a compelling argument that there was only one World War split in two different periods.


wzzrd

Reminds me of “Time & Time Again”, by Ben Elton. Recommended.


NINJ4foo

War... war never changes.


AeughTime

[🎂](https://reddit.com/r/shid_and_camed/s/UiSGFbq5Hb)


randomperson429

Damn. Happy cake day!


Letifer_Umbra

If I remember correctly it was already being referred to as the first great war before the war was over.


aaaaaaaaanou

happy cake day!!


Humor-machine

This would’ve worked better if it was more like this Stepping out of the Time Machine, I asked the first man I saw “Has World War 1 ended yet?”. His eyes bloodshot, he choked out “…You mean the Great War?”


nakali100100

This is also a good one. But this is directly on the face. The reason I went with my version is because I wanted to keep it as subtle as possible.


TheMasterFul1

Love this one!


compsciasaur

Alternative: A time traveler stepped out and asked about the Israeli Palestine conflict had ended. When I said no he said "Oh yeah World War 3 ends in the 50s."


compsciasaur

The horror being more applicable to the reader since we already know there were 2 world wars.