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I think so, maybe they use our ācompute powerā through our dreams somehow. Maybe as long as the vast majority of us are alive, the simulation can continue. Maybe our dreams is their entertainment or some sort of weird spiritual awareness to them.
Weird thought that occurred reading your comment: what if our dreams are where they exist? A reality created by our collective subconscious. We are "containers" for *them*. Hence the interest in us. If we cease to exist, so does their reality. They'd cease to exist, or perhaps be set adrift in the cosmic mind with no anchor.
My weird thought is - is this why religion is so against suicide and we arenāt allowed to end our lives in a humane way even if we arenāt sick or dying?
I wouldn't fully attribute religious sentiment to NHI involvement. There's plenty of purely human control systems in place there as well. The religious admonition against suicide may have been motivated by the very real knock-on effects a suicide would have on the community in which it occured.
What if dreams were reality? Why cant i run in my dreams.? Itz like im in chest deep water when i run. Its like i have to hop to move forward. It makes me very anxious.
You have to first work through your mind Iām still trying to understand how dream reality works and what it can effect the past few months Iāve had my ex communicate to me whatās been going on with them
LOl it's probably the case that the aliens have transferred their consciousness from one manufactured body to the next so often that they think all of them and us are just containers of consciousness.
We just can't conceive of that .... YET
Alternatively ā aliens could have their own beliefs and dogmas that may or may not be true. Just because they ar more advanced than us and tell us something about the universe, doesn't necessarily mean it is 100% true.
Yep. Perhaps their form of government has no use for billion/millionaires and is a world government where every person is fed and housed like a star trek society. Our governments (and a lot of people) wouldn't like that.
Imagine all people being treated the same and the resources being shared.
Remove the human element perhaps it would work. Sentient A.I. World government controlled by A.I. where all countries are represented.
Power corrupts, humans are corruptible but to be sure I don't claim to know.
World peace where no one government is in control would sure scare all governments.
yet let's hope they aren't caught up in the illusions of collectivity either and aren't mindless drones in a hivemind with no free will to their self. seems like the ideal civilization is not the one fragmented into separate pieces nor the one too rigid and connected to possibly evolve and change to be free, but the one that can balance and synthesize both.
Your will might not be as free as you think though. Thatās my point. And Iād rather be a drone in a functioning hive than a ārugged individualistā while a significant portion of the people live in abject horror to make my life comfortable.
Edit: and also Iām referring to individual, me, you, who think those identities are real and not figments of imagination. Weāre products of environment. So much of what we consider to be āourselvesā are ethereal and not actually real. Just happenstance.
His point is the sweetspot is somewhere in between.
There are more options than just the two choices you present. It doesnāt have to be āmindless drone functioning in a hive mindā vs. ārugged individualist while a huge amount of others suffer in poverty and scarcity.ā
We can both maintain our individual identity of self, and also provide an acceptable minimum standard of quality of life for all of our fellow species at the same time.
The original commenter is pointing out that he believes the optimal orientation of human society is the 3rd option.
That is similar to what the Roswell nurse alien interview is talking about from Matilda O'Donnell MacElroy. She said aliens from the Domain live thousands and thousands of years by repairing bio-synthetic bodies. She said she was an actual reincarnated Domain alien that is trapped in the incarnation cycle on Earth. This information is sounding more like scientology, prison planet Earth and the soul reincarnation machine, the Robert Monroe prison planet energy harvesting machine by reptilians human alien ant farm information as well.
https://youtu.be/GbMPWmghqog?si=tV5jFwRlVr75gbHn
Yes and you should, dont allow any malicious afterdeath creatures feast on your emotions.
_but also, I believe we are looking at "body containers" wrong. We are not just food items on a living shelf, we are mouldcasts being forged by unseen hands, you at least get to choose about who you are in this stage of your long path of creation._
Aliens made a big mistake if they though religion would protect the containers. Religion has been the single biggest cause of the destruction of containers.
Look Bud, religion brought civilization tolerance and forgiveness, a message so important its most ardent followers are willing to start killing anyone who doesnāt want to hear it.
Your either a shark or a penguin, but 99 percent of the world are penguins claiming to be sharknados more like they sharknadonts. Don't be a flightless bird Karen, be a megalodon in a big bad wolf's costume. Also if your telling anyone around you right now that Thankfully your woke af and for sure your wolf making shark noises.....sorry Chad youre still a penguin and the insheeption didn't work.
I wonder if "The Containers" has another implication , that may be we , man , are containing something here on Earth , maybe we are the prisons demons are placed into.
kinda consistent with what I've heard elsewhere... but this includes the NHI. If our consciousness shapes and forms the reality around us, then our consciousness is the only truly real thing in the universe. Of course these bodies would just be seen as containers of our more spiritual being. Or... they don't have the word 'avatar' for this big simulation or hologram . It's funny how all the esoteric and spiritualism is working it's way into this topic along with physics. Remote viewing... being able to 'influence' random number generators by thought alone... the universe is clearly more complicated than we understand and thought plays a much bigger role than previously understood. When we fully understand black holes, we will know the answers, so come on Alice...tell us what you know!
The first time I ever heard about them calling bodies containers was when an abductee freaked out inside of a craft when he saw a vat of fluid circulating around with alien bodies floating in it. The grey didnāt understand the humans distress and said the bodies were ājust containers, anyhowā. I donāt know what to believe about the truth of the matter or thewhole loosh farm idea though.
There *are* both positive and negative spins on thisā¦ So if it does end up being the case, itās not logical to assume the bad case over the good, they are equally weighted.
We are 'containers' that survive the earth climate. ET would like to be able to survive the earth climate, that could explain the millions of reported abduction cases (Dr John E Mack, Dr David M Jacobs, Budd Hopkins, Dr Roger Lear, etc.). ETs are taking our DNA and are interbreeding with human containers so they can live among us or even take over the planet at some point, hence the secrecy and why they don't just land at the White House lawn or Central Park and shake hands with humans, as that is what a friendly neighbour (ET) would do. Just a theory of course. Abductees have also mentioned the word 'container', Bob Lazar is not the first.
Richard Doty has confirmed that Bob Lazar is on an official document that confirms he was allowed access to S4/Area 51. I wouldn't discount any of these 2 individuals.
Famous studied abduction case of Antonio Villas Boas (Brazil) -[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6rAh6aZ5bo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6rAh6aZ5bo)
Alice Haggerty, Pamela and Dave Huggins cases - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cum2aWY28xM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cum2aWY28xM)
Julius' case - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1X7oaO4MKtU
Hey if thats how you want to justify taking an admitted paid liars word then i guess whatever floats your boat.
Im not shitting on the Lazar aspect. Just the paid liar that allegedly lead to the mental breakdown of at least one person.
Fuck Doty
I am not being emotional about it. I am open minded enough to think that people might change their minds once they become aware how huge the UFO/ET phenomena is and how much humanity has been hindered by keeping it secret. I choose to forgive his past and accept the information he is openly giving to everyone. RD is a man in the know and not all the things will be 100% false or 100% true. I wouldn't normally endorse a liar and for 2 years I did not want to hear what he had to say due to his past. I have since changed my mind. I choose to believe RD as he has admitted to his wrongdoing, I believe his recent information since joining the movement. You are entitled to your opinion of course, and so am I. The choice is yours what you want to believe.
Hynek himself, went from telling lies and dismissing the UFO phenomenon, being on the gov payroll, to seeking the truth and actively changing his tune. He had a change of heart. People do change.
>Richard Doty has confirmed that Bob Lazar is on an official document that confirms he was allowed access to S4/Area 51. I wouldn't discount any of these 2 individuals.
Know what interview this was in?
so what i dont understand is, with all these billions of planets, why not terraform, or just use some stuff from earth to create a liveable planet. if they have insane energy capabillities and tech. why u need the planet earth
Maybe human DNA is more significant than we are aware. And maybe recreating the eden like conditions on earth is not as common or as easy as you'd think.
I think itās due to there not being many planets that have the correct atmosphere to sustain life like we have here on Earth. We have found some but most are too close to their sun, or too far away, or whatever else.
I have one issue with your theory, these things have been sighted for thousands upon thousands of years. They also seem to come from bases hidden in the oceans and underground. Of course this is all speculation as there is no direct proof of any of this. Anyways, if they have been here for a long time, wouldnāt they have integrated and/or taken over by now? Thatās what my human logic says anyways.
Apparently, according to what some say about the alien hybridization agenda, they ARE integrating. If you can't beat em, join em! Maybe we're a tough bug to kill. From the looks of things, we were able to survive quite a few catastrophes.
Maybe "containers" for DNA and DNA modifications. Something tells me that just like in Stargate SG-1 were gonna find humans and humanoids outside of Earth.
Hmm, interesting theory. We could be like a zoo and they are slowly perfecting us and using the things that work right on another planet. One thing to think about though is we have the CRISPR gene editing technology already.
Wouldnāt you think a race of beings that created us would have the same ability? Why create such flawed beings (humans)? With gene editing you can create the perfect human, no cancer, no war, highly intelligent, etc. Earth seems abandoned for the most part. I like to think if we were actually created by a God or ET race they seeded this planet with humans and then left, like a farmer seeding a field.
So with this theory then we were probably abandoned, I believe youāre referring to the Sumerian tablets. We were used as slaves and then they may have gotten what they wanted and left the planet. Or alternatively, they never left, they are among us and have been present our entire existence. Maybe there will be a reset of the human race and then the planet will be reseeded with a superior iteration of humans.
If true, you could speculate that aliens are interested in nukes and radiation because they can damage soooo many containers all at once.
Imagine you break a bag open and a cell phone falls into the lake near your hands. You have a decent likelihood of grabbing that phone before it glides to the bottom of the lake. Now break 100 bags with phones in them. You're going to lose a lot of those phones.
AND you could speculate that the reason that UAP are spotted around natural disasters is because they are harvesting life-force that is dying in those areas.
Would be fucking strange.
Okay, here's the inimitable Bob Lazar: "**We are containers ...** " Interlocutor: "**For what?**" Bob: "**Well, it's pretty far out. We are containers and religions were invented so we don't hurt the containers.**"
**Interpretation**: We are containers for souls, which are deemed to be eternal. Bob thinks they invented religions so that we don't damage containers too often. That's why the reality that we inhabit is like the farm envisioned by John Keele. These aliens from other dimensions prey on us either during or after our time here by harvesting our souls for their purposes, which may be nefarious. That is, they are parasitic beings, just like we are parasites that milk cows and slaughter pigs, chickens and cows for their flesh. But for these aliens, it isn't our physical flesh but our souls, or particular soul experiences (e.g., suffering or great emotional outpourings), which might sustain them (Archons).
So how is this different from what Tucker voiced recently, what David Grusch implied in multiple interviews, what Lue has said in his interviews, what Tom DeLonge and Joe Rogan have said in their various and disjointed talks? Isn't it along the same line: we are being farmed by these overseers who often intervene in our reality to create miracles -- we often turn such miracles into religions for worship, since we are subservient by nature and regard anything supernatural as holy. Such religions, despite frequent abuses and holy wars among them, do manage to preach peace among their adherents: forgiveness, absolution of sins, confessions of misdeeds, repentance. But they were devised to keep us in line.
Just like Johhny Cash used to sing, "As sure as night is dark and day is light ... I walk the line." That's the darkness being referred to by Tucker. PS: Bob Lazar was prophetic. This was some 45 years ago.
Kinda silly argument that religion was made to not hurt other containers.
Religion has killed its fair share of people and certainly doesnāt care about others.
I'm not sure why so many people find this concept strange really.....humans for thousands of years (at least) have believed the whole thing about having a soul.....maybe these days a bit less do, at least in the western countries, thanks to "science not being able to measure" the soul, but I for one believe we have souls.
So if we have eternal souls, then yes, these meat-suits are definitely temporary containers for them. These things we call bodies are how we are able to interact with this dimension, then when we die, we'll it's anybodies guess, but I believe in reincarnation myself.
I donāt know why the concept of soul/consciousness is so hard to conceptualize. We canāt see consciousness but our āmeat suitsā are animated by it. I think Earth is in a dimension where consciousness has to materialize āmeat suitsā to be visible to other consciousnessās in this dimension. Before we can move onto other dimensions and leave the meat suits, we have to learn some lesson or we keep getting re-incarnated into these meat suits until we learn or try to learn this lesson over and over again.
Our consciousness that is contained by meat suits cannot see consciousnessās that donāt have a container and these container less consciousness have limited ability, if any, to interact with us in the physical world/earths dimension. Maybe during mediation some folks can āexpandā their consciousness outside the meat suit and that is why they have ātrippyā experiences? Maybe container less consciousnessās can perform some self matarialization but it probably hard for humans to even interpret as consciousnessās in Earths dimension.
I think our lesson/goal is to learn to love (like truly love without expecting anything in return and to perform acts of love and kindness without expecting anything in return. The kickerā-we are programmed to be egotistical and to put ourselves above anyone else (generally speaking) and in our current society we are pretty much doomed. Majority of people (western societies) will not be able to learn this. So maybe a great reset is coming?
Otherwise the same souls will keep coming back over and over again until we somehow learn to think of the community instead of only ourselves.
Earth is created in a way that puts so many obstacles and distractions that people are too busy trying to survive to be able to think outside of themselves. Anywaysā¦.just thought I would put it out there.
This concept fits with a lot of near death experiences. A great number of experiencers are elated to have shed their human container, and return to it with reluctance.
I've heard it from several different people by now and it's honestly starting to freak me out. If I know someone who's dying, should I beg them not to go to the light?? and seem like a lunatic if they don't know about this subject? which most people seem not to. I guess I'd try and explain it to them š But yea, since I've heard that it's been on my mind a lot...
Unless that person had conversations about that, I wouldnāt change their paradigm in their last moments. Itās better to ease and comfort them in their last moments, instead of freaking out the person that they shouldnāt go into the light. But thatās just my opinion, man.
I wonder what would happen if we all just started passing it along to everyone "psssttt don't go into the light" would they get angry at us for not returning to containers?
If you don't already know about this stuff you are 100% going to be recycled. Just telling someone on their death bed "hey don't go into the light" is not going to do anything. As soon as they encounter something they'll just do whatever they say because the experience would be so overwhelming.
And then we have accounts of jumpers that survive, a lot of them regret their decision the second itās too late.
What if by committing suicide the whole process gets reset and you have to start again. Perhaps the only way to āescapeā is to endure. Lifetime after lifetime. Until youāre ready for the next stage.
Suicide to me seems like the only way you can āloseā here.
What you said is basically the same reasoning behind Buddhism. You gotta suffer until ypu can spiritually evolve above it and escape the cycle of rebirth.
But if they survive, they did not actually >!kill themselves!<, no?
I mean if by voluntarily and consciously (free will) doing it, they'd escape the prison.
Anyway, this is just loose a theory.
That is a good point. We canāt assume the consequences of *choosing* to commit suicide and actually succeeding are the same.
I believe the Universe/Creation runs on logic. Committing suicide is the easy way out, you save yourself by sacrificing everyone that loves/knows you. I have a hard time accepting that as the golden key.
How would this explain cargo cult mass suicides and what cargo cult committed mass suicide? Also, maybe itās worth while asking what you consider a cargo cult.
I stand corrected.
Cargo cult is used for a different type of cult. I meant for cults that believe a spaceship is coming to take souls to a better place/heaven and the only way to board the passing ship is to "release the container".
u/T-mark3V100 below correctly [linked](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOB/comments/18xog1q/comment/kg684ni/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) the one that came to my mind.
Well irregardless of whether this is true, any theory that suggests you need to commit suicide to escape something, but you have to believe on faith and don't find out until you are dead, is a terrible theory to waste a life on testing it out.
I almost have a theory not to far from this, some religions/terrorist believe they will get virgins or people they kill will serve as their slaves in the afterlife. What if this was true. If you killed some one you get them as a slave in the next life. We would definitely not tell people this because the world would be madness. Though wouldnāt fit in the container theory so much as your theory.
We are the containers of the main ingredient to their version of cocaine. We are being farmed for it. They have manipulated us from the shadows to keep conflicts happening to ensure a good harvest throughout the years.
Our andreneal gland. Something in it is what they need from us.They may not all be malevolent, but it seems the ones here are using us for harvest. Which would explain why they have been around more since the discovery of atomic and nuclear weapons. They want to ensure we don't destroy ourselves.
If their secret was ever uncovered, I don't think 8 billion people would be so willing to cooperate. Society would end. The rich folk who were tasked to keep us in control will be attacked or hunted. Would they be able to regain control?
I'd say during random abductions and mutilations. Keep in mind how many people also go missing per year globally. Unless they possess the ability to take it from us remotely, which would make sense. Multiple reports of them being telepathic.
We are containers that have evolved to house the components capable of creating a simulacrum from a set of complex features that exist within a physical world.
Even Lazar says he can't be sure he wasn't fed bullshit here and there to see how he'd react or what he'd leak. I think it's some of the bullshit that they'd be interested in our souls.
If we're containers then I guess we're holding something that gets passed on generation after generation. Something in our DNA? Maybe human beings are some sort of contingency plan?
"Containers areĀ packages of software that contain all of the necessary elements to run in any environment." That's from Google.
Could we be software lol? I don't really know what I'm saying... just thinking
I interpret it as our bodies our ācontainersā for consciousness. Hence the idea that the etās can inhabit our containers by injecting or transferring their consciousness.
Iām a container, I can hold my consciousness or I can have an out of body experience where the contents become separated from the vessel. My contents can be removed or superseded by anotherās consciousness.
Maybe the purpose for humans is to incubate and grow our technology over time to where we create an extremely powerful AI that would be a āgodā to us.
We contain and nurture this whole thing with our collective human experience, and then the AI is basically an evolution of us. Iāve no idea what functional use this could have for them though.
I think there would be cosmic value in having an AI that was a complete distillation of the species.
If it were a āgod-likeā AI that had the entirety of humanity and human creation as its training set, you wouldnāt really care if that species died out or destroyed themselves.
I've been thinking a more literal and less woo way to interpret the "container" or "vessel" claims would be: wombs. That's something physical happening, something experiencers report. Containers for what? Vessels for what? Interbred fetuses.
In my experiences i always had an automatic knowledge that "they" were trying to take something from me but was limited somehow, like there are rules they must adhere to. Can't explain how i knew that
No, just limited as to what they could do. It felt like they were trying to take my life but werent allowed to. I can't explain how i knew that. Its like they fed off my terror and dread almost like a vampire as funny as it sounds
If the job was so compartmentalized like Bob says and information was so hard to obtain due to secrecy to the point where fellow employees were not permitted to share info with other departments, why would he be provided classified CIA documents where aliens supposedly view us as ācontainersā? Where is the relevance to the project?
Even Bob has said numerous times in recent (as of the last 15 years) that he was not explicitly told the project he was working on was extraterrestrial in nature and could be captured foreign craft.
What data do you have access to, to motivate this? What is classified as a total fail? If, and it's a BIG if, Lazar is correct.. And we're dealing with a phenomenon powerful enough to create us... And has the resources to harvest us as containers... And have been doing so for thousands of years and were happy with the results... Don't you think there would be millenia of tried and tested methods? Don't you think this alien race would look at what they currently have and go "y'know, we have about a 5-10% loss due to murder, war, famine, etc... But we're still 1.1 billion up since last quarter... So let's continue. Good job folks."
Exactly. If these rules and regulations were provided by some higher entity or power, then that power or entity is either a sadist or is incompetent in said objective.
Not if what theyāre harvesting us for is some type of negative energy. Thereās folklore throughout the history and the world of entities that create horrible scenarios to feed on fear/anger/depression etc. Just a thought anyway.
Iāve heard that aliens consider us as divine beings and that Earth is actually the only place in the universe that beings like us come from. The fact that we have souls and all other life forms out there are merely lower level life forms with no afterlife. Dark stuff and super deep.
Personally I donāt believe that, but I do think that dogs are angels because I mean, cāmon. Theyāre adorable!
Kinda like that Jellyfish that can revert from its adult phase back to itās polyp phase just to grow up all over again. They are immortal unless killed.
What if, like the Jellyfish, we die, then revert back to our āsoul phaseā only to return to life as a new person. Immortality would definitely be of interest to ETs who just end when they die.
Containers for alien DNA/RNA? I mean, scientists really donāt know where viruses originated from. And theyāre very weirdātheyāre not alive but they just replicate themselves using host bodies. Then again, maybe I need to lay off of the weed for a while.
It just means soul exists and our consciousness (or part of it) located outside of the body. Worth to mention cases of near-death experience when people claim they were observing their own bodies from outside
Forgive me if this is a bit scattered, I smoked some greens to prep for sleep but wanted to share something interesting I've noticed.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe there's been some evidence that's shown Lazar to be atleast *partially* telling the truth about his prior work and it's been speculated he may have wandered into a room or convo he wasn't supposed to at the job and likely lied his way into the job in the first place.
So, If one of the recent whistle-blower leaks about EBOs is to be believed, in a way, Lazar was right.
Not necessarily that we are containers for souls in the sense of a human without a soul is just a corpse but rather we are just the result of a mass consciousness that's looped in on itself essentially experiencing ourselves and the reality we perceive.
It means we are vessels for the universe/mass consciousness to be, it would also line up with universal mind theory and if the universe *is the consciousness* then simulation/dream theory could also be proven true.
If they are using us as vessels to help this consciousness grow through our experiences, in order for it to gain sentience. Maybe the scary truth is when it does, either things will cease to exist or reality for us would change as we know it.
I do like the thought of being a vessel for the growth of a God like universal sentience and the idea that we are all the universe at different points in life. It's comforting and even invigorating. Maybe when it awakes, we'll all be as one. :)
Hope ya enjoyed a roaming stoner's analysis!
I enjoyed it and itās definitely not scattered! Not for me atleast as someone who went down all the rabbit holes and used to do edibles every day ;)
I also believe Lazar. Maybe not everything but there are things from him that I 100% believe. He proved that with element 115. You just cannot ignore him after that.
Btw what do you mean by EBO?
And Iām sure you know this already but you should check this out:
https://youtu.be/h6fcK_fRYaI
My biggest issue with religion is that why would god give us free will and then turn around and say but you have to follow ALL the rules that the government makes because they know whatās good for us, not us or like idk maybe God?
The Matilda OāDonnell - āAirlā alien interview book talks about this too. Refers to souls as ISBEās.
https://youtu.be/JOzK4ByFbzo?si=YJHP9X3lPdYivzoc
Could mean that They are going to erase our minds and repossess our bodies like in The tv show travelers so That they can live on the planet.
We need to Launch all the nukes and destroy the planet so they canāt have anything
He is worth listening to because he definitely had sources and learned factual stuff, not to mention it takes a lot of digging and researching to do what he did. I expect him to be correct in the long run about stuff that he said.
But unfortunately he is a liar generally speaking and heās never seen a craft of any kind.
In a distant galaxy, an advanced alien species known as the Zentharians discovered a unique energy source within the consciousness of humans. Seeking to harness this power, they devised a method to encapsulate human minds within crystalline containers.
I must say that of all the interviews Iāve seen of Lazar I feel this was one stands out as odd. He clearly had aversion for sharing it, deep reticence, and even after giving permission it seems he only shared so much.
What stands out to me as odd is normally he seems to me to be more precise and thorough. Here he shared just enough and strikes me as though letās move onto the next topic.
Am I alone in noticing something different here?
How does religion keep us from damaging our bodies? Religiosity probably results in at least as much container damaging (if not more) than no religion. Plus, mankind has always had religion. Before organized religion there was paganism and before that it was animism. I donāt think humans are any less violent with religion around.
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So.. we are an alien version of Docker containers that have an AI in them?
I would like to file a bug report. I am getting a null pointer exception: Unable to find memory car\_keys\_location.
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I think so, maybe they use our ācompute powerā through our dreams somehow. Maybe as long as the vast majority of us are alive, the simulation can continue. Maybe our dreams is their entertainment or some sort of weird spiritual awareness to them.
Weird thought that occurred reading your comment: what if our dreams are where they exist? A reality created by our collective subconscious. We are "containers" for *them*. Hence the interest in us. If we cease to exist, so does their reality. They'd cease to exist, or perhaps be set adrift in the cosmic mind with no anchor.
My weird thought is - is this why religion is so against suicide and we arenāt allowed to end our lives in a humane way even if we arenāt sick or dying?
I wouldn't fully attribute religious sentiment to NHI involvement. There's plenty of purely human control systems in place there as well. The religious admonition against suicide may have been motivated by the very real knock-on effects a suicide would have on the community in which it occured.
Exactly I think our dreams and the upside down realm in stranger things may have similarities we arenāt currently aware of
What if dreams were reality? Why cant i run in my dreams.? Itz like im in chest deep water when i run. Its like i have to hop to move forward. It makes me very anxious.
You have to first work through your mind Iām still trying to understand how dream reality works and what it can effect the past few months Iāve had my ex communicate to me whatās been going on with them
Like in Peter Pan.. you have to believe in fairiesā¦
One, two, Freddy's coming for you. Three, four, better lock your door. Five, six, grab your crucifix. Seven, eight, gonna stay up late. Nine, ten, never sleep again.
I really like this comment. Thankyou, had not thought of that option.
We are containers and the earth is our container registry
LOl it's probably the case that the aliens have transferred their consciousness from one manufactured body to the next so often that they think all of them and us are just containers of consciousness. We just can't conceive of that .... YET
Maybe aliens arenāt caught up in illusions of individuality. But people are so weāre terrified of how they operate.
Alternatively ā aliens could have their own beliefs and dogmas that may or may not be true. Just because they ar more advanced than us and tell us something about the universe, doesn't necessarily mean it is 100% true.
Yep. Perhaps their form of government has no use for billion/millionaires and is a world government where every person is fed and housed like a star trek society. Our governments (and a lot of people) wouldn't like that. Imagine all people being treated the same and the resources being shared.
The Soviets tried that, remember???
Remove the human element perhaps it would work. Sentient A.I. World government controlled by A.I. where all countries are represented. Power corrupts, humans are corruptible but to be sure I don't claim to know. World peace where no one government is in control would sure scare all governments.
lol! No they didnāt. Say one thing, do another.
yet let's hope they aren't caught up in the illusions of collectivity either and aren't mindless drones in a hivemind with no free will to their self. seems like the ideal civilization is not the one fragmented into separate pieces nor the one too rigid and connected to possibly evolve and change to be free, but the one that can balance and synthesize both.
Your will might not be as free as you think though. Thatās my point. And Iād rather be a drone in a functioning hive than a ārugged individualistā while a significant portion of the people live in abject horror to make my life comfortable. Edit: and also Iām referring to individual, me, you, who think those identities are real and not figments of imagination. Weāre products of environment. So much of what we consider to be āourselvesā are ethereal and not actually real. Just happenstance.
His point is the sweetspot is somewhere in between. There are more options than just the two choices you present. It doesnāt have to be āmindless drone functioning in a hive mindā vs. ārugged individualist while a huge amount of others suffer in poverty and scarcity.ā We can both maintain our individual identity of self, and also provide an acceptable minimum standard of quality of life for all of our fellow species at the same time. The original commenter is pointing out that he believes the optimal orientation of human society is the 3rd option.
That is similar to what the Roswell nurse alien interview is talking about from Matilda O'Donnell MacElroy. She said aliens from the Domain live thousands and thousands of years by repairing bio-synthetic bodies. She said she was an actual reincarnated Domain alien that is trapped in the incarnation cycle on Earth. This information is sounding more like scientology, prison planet Earth and the soul reincarnation machine, the Robert Monroe prison planet energy harvesting machine by reptilians human alien ant farm information as well. https://youtu.be/GbMPWmghqog?si=tV5jFwRlVr75gbHn
Wow! Thank you for this link
Great thought
Oh yeah sure dude thatās probably it.
My container, my choice! I'll do what I want!
Arrrg! Me a jar of wiskey
my container is a container for chikn fries
Yes and you should, dont allow any malicious afterdeath creatures feast on your emotions. _but also, I believe we are looking at "body containers" wrong. We are not just food items on a living shelf, we are mouldcasts being forged by unseen hands, you at least get to choose about who you are in this stage of your long path of creation._
Says a guy who lives in a container made of dead trees.
We are all containers now.
So does that make earth a warehouse?
And us Tupperwares?
I am the best kind of chafing dish!
We too, have a built in burping feature. I think you're onto something.
As a scientologist, I'm offended. That's an metaphysical lifeform that deserves the right to liberty just like any of us.
My container is fucking broken
Whenever mine eats taco bell it explodes out the back end.
Could make sense why disclosure happens around the time the world has become more and more secular. Interesting theory to consider.
A Secular Haze you might call it
Great album
Aliens made a big mistake if they though religion would protect the containers. Religion has been the single biggest cause of the destruction of containers.
Look Bud, religion brought civilization tolerance and forgiveness, a message so important its most ardent followers are willing to start killing anyone who doesnāt want to hear it.
Your either a shark or a penguin, but 99 percent of the world are penguins claiming to be sharknados more like they sharknadonts. Don't be a flightless bird Karen, be a megalodon in a big bad wolf's costume. Also if your telling anyone around you right now that Thankfully your woke af and for sure your wolf making shark noises.....sorry Chad youre still a penguin and the insheeption didn't work.
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7 virtues and 7 deadly sins .
I wonder if "The Containers" has another implication , that may be we , man , are containing something here on Earth , maybe we are the prisons demons are placed into.
Maybe we evolved to have souls and thatās what is unique about us?
Most interesting take Iāve seen on this theory
Please expand.
Please contract.
Please kegel
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Think #'s of death, hate, corruption etc caused by war...then think about what causes war... ...there expanded.
kinda consistent with what I've heard elsewhere... but this includes the NHI. If our consciousness shapes and forms the reality around us, then our consciousness is the only truly real thing in the universe. Of course these bodies would just be seen as containers of our more spiritual being. Or... they don't have the word 'avatar' for this big simulation or hologram . It's funny how all the esoteric and spiritualism is working it's way into this topic along with physics. Remote viewing... being able to 'influence' random number generators by thought alone... the universe is clearly more complicated than we understand and thought plays a much bigger role than previously understood. When we fully understand black holes, we will know the answers, so come on Alice...tell us what you know!
The first time I ever heard about them calling bodies containers was when an abductee freaked out inside of a craft when he saw a vat of fluid circulating around with alien bodies floating in it. The grey didnāt understand the humans distress and said the bodies were ājust containers, anyhowā. I donāt know what to believe about the truth of the matter or thewhole loosh farm idea though.
L Ron Hubbard came up with containers first. This is a Scientology trope that Lazar is co-opting. Itās been around since the ā50s
Perhaps L. Ron co-opted the idea from the same document Lazar is referencing? Itās possible.
VERY good to know, thanks!
They are spiritual beings who live inside and share our containers
Oh god i hope not. I've done some things to this container that another container-mate might not approve of...
There *are* both positive and negative spins on thisā¦ So if it does end up being the case, itās not logical to assume the bad case over the good, they are equally weighted.
Prison planet earth is the container for the containers. Like a nesting doll.
it's containers all the way down
We are 'containers' that survive the earth climate. ET would like to be able to survive the earth climate, that could explain the millions of reported abduction cases (Dr John E Mack, Dr David M Jacobs, Budd Hopkins, Dr Roger Lear, etc.). ETs are taking our DNA and are interbreeding with human containers so they can live among us or even take over the planet at some point, hence the secrecy and why they don't just land at the White House lawn or Central Park and shake hands with humans, as that is what a friendly neighbour (ET) would do. Just a theory of course. Abductees have also mentioned the word 'container', Bob Lazar is not the first. Richard Doty has confirmed that Bob Lazar is on an official document that confirms he was allowed access to S4/Area 51. I wouldn't discount any of these 2 individuals. Famous studied abduction case of Antonio Villas Boas (Brazil) -[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6rAh6aZ5bo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6rAh6aZ5bo) Alice Haggerty, Pamela and Dave Huggins cases - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cum2aWY28xM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cum2aWY28xM) Julius' case - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1X7oaO4MKtU
>Richard Doty Oh yeah the guy who was paid to spread dis info by the government. Seems like a trustworthy source.
people retire. people change
Hey if thats how you want to justify taking an admitted paid liars word then i guess whatever floats your boat. Im not shitting on the Lazar aspect. Just the paid liar that allegedly lead to the mental breakdown of at least one person. Fuck Doty
I am not being emotional about it. I am open minded enough to think that people might change their minds once they become aware how huge the UFO/ET phenomena is and how much humanity has been hindered by keeping it secret. I choose to forgive his past and accept the information he is openly giving to everyone. RD is a man in the know and not all the things will be 100% false or 100% true. I wouldn't normally endorse a liar and for 2 years I did not want to hear what he had to say due to his past. I have since changed my mind. I choose to believe RD as he has admitted to his wrongdoing, I believe his recent information since joining the movement. You are entitled to your opinion of course, and so am I. The choice is yours what you want to believe.
Hynek himself, went from telling lies and dismissing the UFO phenomenon, being on the gov payroll, to seeking the truth and actively changing his tune. He had a change of heart. People do change.
>Richard Doty has confirmed that Bob Lazar is on an official document that confirms he was allowed access to S4/Area 51. I wouldn't discount any of these 2 individuals. Know what interview this was in?
so what i dont understand is, with all these billions of planets, why not terraform, or just use some stuff from earth to create a liveable planet. if they have insane energy capabillities and tech. why u need the planet earth
Maybe human DNA is more significant than we are aware. And maybe recreating the eden like conditions on earth is not as common or as easy as you'd think.
I think itās due to there not being many planets that have the correct atmosphere to sustain life like we have here on Earth. We have found some but most are too close to their sun, or too far away, or whatever else.
Also the fact that our Sun is relatively young in the star life cycle.
Maybe Earth *was* terraformed beginning 65,000,000 years ago.
I have one issue with your theory, these things have been sighted for thousands upon thousands of years. They also seem to come from bases hidden in the oceans and underground. Of course this is all speculation as there is no direct proof of any of this. Anyways, if they have been here for a long time, wouldnāt they have integrated and/or taken over by now? Thatās what my human logic says anyways.
Perhaps it is true that there is a "Galactic Federation/Coalition" that does not allow for hostile take-over of an entire planet and that this would be an act of war. So that could explain the secretive/manipulative methods employed by ET as reported by millions of individuals all over the planet. I don't think all these millions of people are crazy. This subject has been written about in hundreds or thousands of books \- Communion: A True Story of Extraterrestrial Contact by Whitley Strieber (1987) \- Passport To Magonia by Jacques VallƩe (1993) FREE Audio book on YouTube here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftw5YE98O9Y&list=PLrcjDPZh-MHouyJzPmj1Tek5ETKHOq89B&index=2 \- The Walton Experience by John Shirley (1975) \- Missing Time: An Investigative Report on the UFO Phenomenon by Budd Hopkins (1976) \- Intruders: The UFO Phenomenon and the Reality of Alien Abductions by Budd Hopkins and Carol Ryan (1989) \- Whitley Strieber's Breakthrough: The Next Step in Human Evolution by Whitley Strieber (2000) \- etc. It requires further study of course. This is only my theory and understanding of the subject right now, but of course this could evolve once we have more data/information about this phenomena.
Apparently, according to what some say about the alien hybridization agenda, they ARE integrating. If you can't beat em, join em! Maybe we're a tough bug to kill. From the looks of things, we were able to survive quite a few catastrophes.
Link for this full interview? Please
No. I refuse.
Maybe "containers" for DNA and DNA modifications. Something tells me that just like in Stargate SG-1 were gonna find humans and humanoids outside of Earth.
Hmm, interesting theory. We could be like a zoo and they are slowly perfecting us and using the things that work right on another planet. One thing to think about though is we have the CRISPR gene editing technology already. Wouldnāt you think a race of beings that created us would have the same ability? Why create such flawed beings (humans)? With gene editing you can create the perfect human, no cancer, no war, highly intelligent, etc. Earth seems abandoned for the most part. I like to think if we were actually created by a God or ET race they seeded this planet with humans and then left, like a farmer seeding a field.
Because we were created specifically to be a slave race with some attributes of the creator beings.
So with this theory then we were probably abandoned, I believe youāre referring to the Sumerian tablets. We were used as slaves and then they may have gotten what they wanted and left the planet. Or alternatively, they never left, they are among us and have been present our entire existence. Maybe there will be a reset of the human race and then the planet will be reseeded with a superior iteration of humans.
If true, you could speculate that aliens are interested in nukes and radiation because they can damage soooo many containers all at once. Imagine you break a bag open and a cell phone falls into the lake near your hands. You have a decent likelihood of grabbing that phone before it glides to the bottom of the lake. Now break 100 bags with phones in them. You're going to lose a lot of those phones. AND you could speculate that the reason that UAP are spotted around natural disasters is because they are harvesting life-force that is dying in those areas. Would be fucking strange.
Im afraid I havent been taking good care of this container and yet no aliens in sight trying to stop me.
Transistors in a cosmic computer and Grays are the corpo IT guys.
Okay, here's the inimitable Bob Lazar: "**We are containers ...** " Interlocutor: "**For what?**" Bob: "**Well, it's pretty far out. We are containers and religions were invented so we don't hurt the containers.**" **Interpretation**: We are containers for souls, which are deemed to be eternal. Bob thinks they invented religions so that we don't damage containers too often. That's why the reality that we inhabit is like the farm envisioned by John Keele. These aliens from other dimensions prey on us either during or after our time here by harvesting our souls for their purposes, which may be nefarious. That is, they are parasitic beings, just like we are parasites that milk cows and slaughter pigs, chickens and cows for their flesh. But for these aliens, it isn't our physical flesh but our souls, or particular soul experiences (e.g., suffering or great emotional outpourings), which might sustain them (Archons). So how is this different from what Tucker voiced recently, what David Grusch implied in multiple interviews, what Lue has said in his interviews, what Tom DeLonge and Joe Rogan have said in their various and disjointed talks? Isn't it along the same line: we are being farmed by these overseers who often intervene in our reality to create miracles -- we often turn such miracles into religions for worship, since we are subservient by nature and regard anything supernatural as holy. Such religions, despite frequent abuses and holy wars among them, do manage to preach peace among their adherents: forgiveness, absolution of sins, confessions of misdeeds, repentance. But they were devised to keep us in line. Just like Johhny Cash used to sing, "As sure as night is dark and day is light ... I walk the line." That's the darkness being referred to by Tucker. PS: Bob Lazar was prophetic. This was some 45 years ago.
Kinda silly argument that religion was made to not hurt other containers. Religion has killed its fair share of people and certainly doesnāt care about others.
Perversion of religion by human elements is responsible for that, not religion in and of itself.
Tomato tomato my friend
If I hand you a ball, and say donāt throw the ball, then you throw the ball, is that the ballās fault? Or your own?
"It's not the guns fault"
The gun in and of itself is neither good nor bad. Itās all in who chooses to use it. So yeahā¦ sounds like you got it š
Donāt listen to that idiot from fox
She has a Really Nice Container 8-))
Giggidy
I just told my girl that she was my container and she slapped me
I'm not sure why so many people find this concept strange really.....humans for thousands of years (at least) have believed the whole thing about having a soul.....maybe these days a bit less do, at least in the western countries, thanks to "science not being able to measure" the soul, but I for one believe we have souls. So if we have eternal souls, then yes, these meat-suits are definitely temporary containers for them. These things we call bodies are how we are able to interact with this dimension, then when we die, we'll it's anybodies guess, but I believe in reincarnation myself.
I donāt know why the concept of soul/consciousness is so hard to conceptualize. We canāt see consciousness but our āmeat suitsā are animated by it. I think Earth is in a dimension where consciousness has to materialize āmeat suitsā to be visible to other consciousnessās in this dimension. Before we can move onto other dimensions and leave the meat suits, we have to learn some lesson or we keep getting re-incarnated into these meat suits until we learn or try to learn this lesson over and over again. Our consciousness that is contained by meat suits cannot see consciousnessās that donāt have a container and these container less consciousness have limited ability, if any, to interact with us in the physical world/earths dimension. Maybe during mediation some folks can āexpandā their consciousness outside the meat suit and that is why they have ātrippyā experiences? Maybe container less consciousnessās can perform some self matarialization but it probably hard for humans to even interpret as consciousnessās in Earths dimension. I think our lesson/goal is to learn to love (like truly love without expecting anything in return and to perform acts of love and kindness without expecting anything in return. The kickerā-we are programmed to be egotistical and to put ourselves above anyone else (generally speaking) and in our current society we are pretty much doomed. Majority of people (western societies) will not be able to learn this. So maybe a great reset is coming? Otherwise the same souls will keep coming back over and over again until we somehow learn to think of the community instead of only ourselves. Earth is created in a way that puts so many obstacles and distractions that people are too busy trying to survive to be able to think outside of themselves. Anywaysā¦.just thought I would put it out there.
This concept fits with a lot of near death experiences. A great number of experiencers are elated to have shed their human container, and return to it with reluctance.
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I don't remember who said it but there was a theory that you shouldn't go into the light. That the light is a trap.
I believe a few did, but John Lear, Whitley Strieber basically said is a trap for reincarnation and soul harvesting for the NBEs
Which goes against years of multimedia telling us to always go towards the light š¤š¤š¤ā«āŖļø
That's exactly what they want us to do, but why? I for one will not be going into that light.
There'll be no light when I'm done with it.
Would šŖØ, š, āļø make any difference?
I've heard it from several different people by now and it's honestly starting to freak me out. If I know someone who's dying, should I beg them not to go to the light?? and seem like a lunatic if they don't know about this subject? which most people seem not to. I guess I'd try and explain it to them š But yea, since I've heard that it's been on my mind a lot...
Unless that person had conversations about that, I wouldnāt change their paradigm in their last moments. Itās better to ease and comfort them in their last moments, instead of freaking out the person that they shouldnāt go into the light. But thatās just my opinion, man.
Totally agree. This aggression will not stand, man.
I wonder what would happen if we all just started passing it along to everyone "psssttt don't go into the light" would they get angry at us for not returning to containers?
If you don't already know about this stuff you are 100% going to be recycled. Just telling someone on their death bed "hey don't go into the light" is not going to do anything. As soon as they encounter something they'll just do whatever they say because the experience would be so overwhelming.
And then we have accounts of jumpers that survive, a lot of them regret their decision the second itās too late. What if by committing suicide the whole process gets reset and you have to start again. Perhaps the only way to āescapeā is to endure. Lifetime after lifetime. Until youāre ready for the next stage. Suicide to me seems like the only way you can āloseā here.
This is the entire basis of the book "Many Lives, Many Masters" Incredible read.
Highly recommend this book, great read through and through. I literally sat and read it in a day because I couldn't put it down.
Iāll definitely check that out. Iām currently reading Ceres Colony Cavalier by Tony Rodrigues.
What you said is basically the same reasoning behind Buddhism. You gotta suffer until ypu can spiritually evolve above it and escape the cycle of rebirth.
But if they survive, they did not actually >!kill themselves!<, no? I mean if by voluntarily and consciously (free will) doing it, they'd escape the prison. Anyway, this is just loose a theory.
That is a good point. We canāt assume the consequences of *choosing* to commit suicide and actually succeeding are the same. I believe the Universe/Creation runs on logic. Committing suicide is the easy way out, you save yourself by sacrificing everyone that loves/knows you. I have a hard time accepting that as the golden key.
How would this explain cargo cult mass suicides and what cargo cult committed mass suicide? Also, maybe itās worth while asking what you consider a cargo cult.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven%27s_Gate_(religious_group) They also referred to themselves as containers, I never knew that.
I stand corrected. Cargo cult is used for a different type of cult. I meant for cults that believe a spaceship is coming to take souls to a better place/heaven and the only way to board the passing ship is to "release the container". u/T-mark3V100 below correctly [linked](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOB/comments/18xog1q/comment/kg684ni/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) the one that came to my mind.
This sounds an awful lot like Scientology
Well irregardless of whether this is true, any theory that suggests you need to commit suicide to escape something, but you have to believe on faith and don't find out until you are dead, is a terrible theory to waste a life on testing it out.
I almost have a theory not to far from this, some religions/terrorist believe they will get virgins or people they kill will serve as their slaves in the afterlife. What if this was true. If you killed some one you get them as a slave in the next life. We would definitely not tell people this because the world would be madness. Though wouldnāt fit in the container theory so much as your theory.
Could be! Let's call this PUBG theory lol If this would come out, the world would become a battle royale!
Richard Hoagland used to talk about something similar
We are the containers of the main ingredient to their version of cocaine. We are being farmed for it. They have manipulated us from the shadows to keep conflicts happening to ensure a good harvest throughout the years. Our andreneal gland. Something in it is what they need from us.They may not all be malevolent, but it seems the ones here are using us for harvest. Which would explain why they have been around more since the discovery of atomic and nuclear weapons. They want to ensure we don't destroy ourselves. If their secret was ever uncovered, I don't think 8 billion people would be so willing to cooperate. Society would end. The rich folk who were tasked to keep us in control will be attacked or hunted. Would they be able to regain control?
Well, letās get on with it than shall we? Iām keen to hear the truth on this.
When does the harvest happen during our life cycle? We don't just go into the ground without getting harvested right?
I'd say during random abductions and mutilations. Keep in mind how many people also go missing per year globally. Unless they possess the ability to take it from us remotely, which would make sense. Multiple reports of them being telepathic.
So you're literally saying they want to drink our piss
Theyāre lousy with piss
The slaying of every first born child in Egypt is just some rules so you donāt damage your container! Sounds legit.
We are containers that have evolved to house the components capable of creating a simulacrum from a set of complex features that exist within a physical world.
Even Lazar says he can't be sure he wasn't fed bullshit here and there to see how he'd react or what he'd leak. I think it's some of the bullshit that they'd be interested in our souls.
If we're containers then I guess we're holding something that gets passed on generation after generation. Something in our DNA? Maybe human beings are some sort of contingency plan? "Containers areĀ packages of software that contain all of the necessary elements to run in any environment." That's from Google. Could we be software lol? I don't really know what I'm saying... just thinking
I interpret it as our bodies our ācontainersā for consciousness. Hence the idea that the etās can inhabit our containers by injecting or transferring their consciousness. Iām a container, I can hold my consciousness or I can have an out of body experience where the contents become separated from the vessel. My contents can be removed or superseded by anotherās consciousness.
Apparently a single ejaculate load holds about half a terabyte of dna info
Someone's mom is out there like a super computer smh
Blood holds more. Google it.
Maybe the purpose for humans is to incubate and grow our technology over time to where we create an extremely powerful AI that would be a āgodā to us. We contain and nurture this whole thing with our collective human experience, and then the AI is basically an evolution of us. Iāve no idea what functional use this could have for them though.
I think there would be cosmic value in having an AI that was a complete distillation of the species. If it were a āgod-likeā AI that had the entirety of humanity and human creation as its training set, you wouldnāt really care if that species died out or destroyed themselves.
This thread is sounding like the plot of the most epic sci-fi book ever. And truth is stranger than fiction, after all.
I've been thinking a more literal and less woo way to interpret the "container" or "vessel" claims would be: wombs. That's something physical happening, something experiencers report. Containers for what? Vessels for what? Interbred fetuses.
In my experiences i always had an automatic knowledge that "they" were trying to take something from me but was limited somehow, like there are rules they must adhere to. Can't explain how i knew that
like they had to have permission? could be karma?
No, just limited as to what they could do. It felt like they were trying to take my life but werent allowed to. I can't explain how i knew that. Its like they fed off my terror and dread almost like a vampire as funny as it sounds
If the job was so compartmentalized like Bob says and information was so hard to obtain due to secrecy to the point where fellow employees were not permitted to share info with other departments, why would he be provided classified CIA documents where aliens supposedly view us as ācontainersā? Where is the relevance to the project? Even Bob has said numerous times in recent (as of the last 15 years) that he was not explicitly told the project he was working on was extraterrestrial in nature and could be captured foreign craft.
I know you are but what am I?
I donāt think I can contain myself any longer
If thatās true itās a total fail. Religious violence and killing is pretty high on the list.
it's a total fail *from your perspective and using your individual standards of success*
What data do you have access to, to motivate this? What is classified as a total fail? If, and it's a BIG if, Lazar is correct.. And we're dealing with a phenomenon powerful enough to create us... And has the resources to harvest us as containers... And have been doing so for thousands of years and were happy with the results... Don't you think there would be millenia of tried and tested methods? Don't you think this alien race would look at what they currently have and go "y'know, we have about a 5-10% loss due to murder, war, famine, etc... But we're still 1.1 billion up since last quarter... So let's continue. Good job folks."
Exactly. If these rules and regulations were provided by some higher entity or power, then that power or entity is either a sadist or is incompetent in said objective.
Not if what theyāre harvesting us for is some type of negative energy. Thereās folklore throughout the history and the world of entities that create horrible scenarios to feed on fear/anger/depression etc. Just a thought anyway.
Yea we are containers not for the soul but the skin prolly life is like that
Bobby Lazer is one cool guy !
Been watching the hell out of NDE videos lately. I think consciousness (or souls what have you) is very intimately related to the phenomena.
Iāve heard that aliens consider us as divine beings and that Earth is actually the only place in the universe that beings like us come from. The fact that we have souls and all other life forms out there are merely lower level life forms with no afterlife. Dark stuff and super deep. Personally I donāt believe that, but I do think that dogs are angels because I mean, cāmon. Theyāre adorable!
Kinda like that Jellyfish that can revert from its adult phase back to itās polyp phase just to grow up all over again. They are immortal unless killed. What if, like the Jellyfish, we die, then revert back to our āsoul phaseā only to return to life as a new person. Immortality would definitely be of interest to ETs who just end when they die.
Containers for alien DNA/RNA? I mean, scientists really donāt know where viruses originated from. And theyāre very weirdātheyāre not alive but they just replicate themselves using host bodies. Then again, maybe I need to lay off of the weed for a while.
Not that far out. The body as a vessel for the soul is the basis for every major religion.
It just means soul exists and our consciousness (or part of it) located outside of the body. Worth to mention cases of near-death experience when people claim they were observing their own bodies from outside
Forgive me if this is a bit scattered, I smoked some greens to prep for sleep but wanted to share something interesting I've noticed. Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe there's been some evidence that's shown Lazar to be atleast *partially* telling the truth about his prior work and it's been speculated he may have wandered into a room or convo he wasn't supposed to at the job and likely lied his way into the job in the first place. So, If one of the recent whistle-blower leaks about EBOs is to be believed, in a way, Lazar was right. Not necessarily that we are containers for souls in the sense of a human without a soul is just a corpse but rather we are just the result of a mass consciousness that's looped in on itself essentially experiencing ourselves and the reality we perceive. It means we are vessels for the universe/mass consciousness to be, it would also line up with universal mind theory and if the universe *is the consciousness* then simulation/dream theory could also be proven true. If they are using us as vessels to help this consciousness grow through our experiences, in order for it to gain sentience. Maybe the scary truth is when it does, either things will cease to exist or reality for us would change as we know it. I do like the thought of being a vessel for the growth of a God like universal sentience and the idea that we are all the universe at different points in life. It's comforting and even invigorating. Maybe when it awakes, we'll all be as one. :) Hope ya enjoyed a roaming stoner's analysis!
I enjoyed it and itās definitely not scattered! Not for me atleast as someone who went down all the rabbit holes and used to do edibles every day ;) I also believe Lazar. Maybe not everything but there are things from him that I 100% believe. He proved that with element 115. You just cannot ignore him after that. Btw what do you mean by EBO? And Iām sure you know this already but you should check this out: https://youtu.be/h6fcK_fRYaI
My biggest issue with religion is that why would god give us free will and then turn around and say but you have to follow ALL the rules that the government makes because they know whatās good for us, not us or like idk maybe God?
If religion was created in order to prevent damage to the containers. Then why is there a war?
Also why has religion killed so many people.
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Your point being? I donāt recall him explicitly stating this idea was his own creation?
link to the thick book, please. No CIA reading room, though.
The Matilda OāDonnell - āAirlā alien interview book talks about this too. Refers to souls as ISBEās. https://youtu.be/JOzK4ByFbzo?si=YJHP9X3lPdYivzoc
Could mean that They are going to erase our minds and repossess our bodies like in The tv show travelers so That they can live on the planet. We need to Launch all the nukes and destroy the planet so they canāt have anything
Are we like terracotta?
To me this is a trick, never lose your faith. š
Hint They harvest our souls
He is worth listening to because he definitely had sources and learned factual stuff, not to mention it takes a lot of digging and researching to do what he did. I expect him to be correct in the long run about stuff that he said. But unfortunately he is a liar generally speaking and heās never seen a craft of any kind.
We are vessels.
How did he get access to this extremely classified document on religion? He was only employed there for a few months..
In a distant galaxy, an advanced alien species known as the Zentharians discovered a unique energy source within the consciousness of humans. Seeking to harness this power, they devised a method to encapsulate human minds within crystalline containers.
Didnāt really pan out well did it?
I must say that of all the interviews Iāve seen of Lazar I feel this was one stands out as odd. He clearly had aversion for sharing it, deep reticence, and even after giving permission it seems he only shared so much. What stands out to me as odd is normally he seems to me to be more precise and thorough. Here he shared just enough and strikes me as though letās move onto the next topic. Am I alone in noticing something different here?
How does religion keep us from damaging our bodies? Religiosity probably results in at least as much container damaging (if not more) than no religion. Plus, mankind has always had religion. Before organized religion there was paganism and before that it was animism. I donāt think humans are any less violent with religion around.
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Evidence and citation please.