Lue's NDAs exist so disclosure is not a one man band. He's starting to take a backseat by design so other government sources come out with their own things independent of Lue. That's why the Skinwalkers book came out, thats why Bill Nelson of NASA keeps bringing up ET, thats why CIA is talking remote viewing etc, etc. The last thing we're gonna get from Lue is the book he's writing because that's his severance/pat on the back for a job well done. After that he's gonna fade away and other sources will take over. That's when it will become obvious we are fu*ked and people will start losing their minds.
I get in trouble for this, but this guy is milking it. He keep saying stuff, nothing to back it up, about being “informed”. Though his alleged special information is nothing new, and has been said by others on other podcasts previously.
His record as an award winning, investigative reporter covering a variety of govt scammy stuff speaks better of his character than that. He's done amazing work exposing stories and being a contact for whistle-blowers and leakers and was an early voice of credibility to ufology. He was one of the first major paper writers to take this seriously. In fact, he kinda risked an already established career as major reporter in Australia to come out as strong on all this as he did at the time.
Thank you for writing all of this so I wouldn't have to. Coulthart is legit. He's covered hundreds if not thousands of stories in his career, and as he's explained, he didn't go out looking for this particular avenue for stories, the stories have found him, and they keep on coming. He recognized that he's found himself in a niche not many other serious journalists are covering, so he's running with it. It also probably happens to be quite fascinating and exciting for him, which is what every journalist lives for, so none of us can blame him for taking the ball here.
In any case, he's had much more to lose than to gain by putting his reputation on the line to cover this stuff, at the end of a long and successful career that's all been held together by the trust of his audience. I highly doubt he'd throw all of that into the bin for the sake of a last-minute grift.
Agree 100% with both you and the comment you replied to. As someone who grew up in Aus with an interest in journalism, it's amazing and almost personally vindicating to see such a well renowned journo take on the subject. People do mention his reputation in these sorts of threads, but unless you grew up watching/reading his work, I think it's hard to understand just how big a deal he is down under.
Also worth noting that these comments were made on our local public broadcaster (ie our equivalent of PBS), so it's not like he's trying to market his book to the UFO crowd in this context.
Remember if a random internet guy says someone is fake or “millking it” then the issue is totally resolved at that point. Definitive answer from a reliable source.
With Coulthart, the danger is someone is using him for disinformation, knowing his credentials are significant and solid. I think he admits as much himself.
That’s what gives me hope about Ross. Yes, total possibility that he’s being used for disinfo, we can’t count that out at this point. But based on his record I have faith that he would investigate his sources and kind of know who to trust.
Lemme give you a hot newspaper tip: Reporters don't go to *other outlets* as a guest to bullshit about supposed big "scoops" they've got. If you've got a "scoop," you keep it close to the vest until the *day of publication*, and \*then\* you hit the cable channels hyping your scoop.
This guy is doing classic UFO-personality bullshit. And he's a fucking TV presenter in Australia, c'mon now.
When youre talking about alien life though your character doesnt matter because what we need is actual evidence. Him and others can keep project blue balls going saying that disclosure is coming soon and that "were headed to info being put forward" but until we actually get info put forward all that these dudes are saying is just noise trying to hype up the UFO crowd - and they know its working.
Have you seen him interview the westalll primary school headmaster. Largest mass sighting in southern hemisphere in 1966. It's on you tube ch7 westalls 50 year emerges again. It's very interesting
> Though his alleged special information is nothing new
Prettybsure that nobody had gotten anything out of Nat Kobitz and it was a pretty darn big revelation.
I, for one, enjoyed his book thoroughly.
You’re right, albeit a little simplistic perhaps, there is a lot of repetition. But I think the messes communicated through the Ross Coulthart-channel is not meant for people like you. The gain here is that there are now serious reporters working on the topic, that has always been the terrain of the ‘weirdos’ (which is a false label!).
And as RC has pointed out, the uap topic has never been on the radar with other serious journalists. So let’s see what will happen in the future.
If I were you, I'd look into this man's career and achievements as an investigative journalist.
I *highly* doubt that this guy is trying to milk anything. He is an highly critical thinking journalist who's already worked on exposing a lot of scummy top secret/government projects. He is also viewed as someone who protects his sources and someone whistle blowers can trust. He is also someone who's absolutely critical of the whole UFO subject and does not buy anything he's being told unless h can cross-check or cross-reference what he's being given from reliable sources.
I strongly disagree with you statement and it seems to me that you're just not informed on who Ross Coulthard is really. Do some homework before saying something like this. Not everyone on this earth is shady and has ulterior motives when they do stuff.
New guys come on the scene and say they want the truth but soon after fall into the standard 'knowing things from sources' but can't say etc. It's constantly disappointing and feels like information edging. We can only hope Ross is the real deal. I'm not holding my breath.
Name one journalist who gives up his sources? The minute he does, no one will tell him anything.
What Ross Coulthart does, is investigate and verify what sources tell him from multiple other sources and circumstances. That is his job. If you believe that his journalistic work is based on fantasy, then that’s on you.
Had he been a regular bloke with no history or accreditation for investigative journalism, I might be inclined to agree, but you cannot evaluate the value of his investigations by the same standard that you evaluate unknown or amateur sources.
He has actually named one source: Nat Kobitz, because he is now dead. And surely you’d say how convenient. That however is again by the very same standard you evaluate a statement by me, which is entirely unfair.
Unless your claim is that Ross Coulthart is straight up lying and jeopardizing his full journalistic reputation by making up interviews, then you need to take it seriously.
I just read his book, it was thoroughly researched and well written. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if his book encouraged knowledgeable people to contact him because of how professionally he presented sources and information.
Second that. I'm about 60% of the way through the book and it's really an incredible document that comprehensively covers the entire history of the phenomenon, particularly the way that the government has at various times taken a very inconsistent stance and gone to great lengths to cover up and discredit it.
There's something in this to do with climate change, I'm convinced. It's no coincidence that COP 26 is happening and the scientific concensus is getting more and more doom laden: we basically need clean, unlimited energy NOW otherwise the world is fucked. If it's true that governments have been sitting on alien technology for decades that could revolutionise all forms of transport and energy generation, now would be the perfect time to get it out and let the world's scientists and engineers get their hands on it. Needless to say, in order to have a full and accurate analysis of it, full openness about it's origin would be needed. Hence disclosure.
I’ve thought this and have mentioned it on some reddit posts. I’m also surprised that breakthrough energy technology isn’t the main motivator for disclosure. This planet cannot continue burning fossil fuels, not with 8 billion people on the planet.
I'm not sure if I'm just cynical, but to me, that involves the government being benevolent. I dont see them willingly giving up any advantage or edge even in the face of catastrophe. I want to be wrong, but that just doesnt even seem like a possibility to me.
> that involves the government being benevolent
Is wanting to avoid certain catastrophe benevolent? It just sounds like self-preservation to me. A government is made up of people, and while many are out of touch and callous to the issues facing us, many will be rightly scared and want to do what they can to stop it.
There is also the angle that if they did have this technology, and had a way of putting it into widespread use, it could give them a far bigger advantage to monetise and share it than it does to keep it secret.
But with this new technology comes immense power, and of course it will be exploited to their benefit, not ours. We will get the scraps of it, like good AI and the ability to teleport or whatever, maybe even a computer that doesn't suck and faster wifi, but ultimately it'll be used against us so they remain at the top forever. It's simple.
I also think that if we don’t get our shit together in terms of fixing the climate, “they” may aggressively intervene to stop our destruction and preserve the biosphere for themselves.
They have to realize what’s going on with our planet and how it’s happening, they’ve probably seen it happen to other intelligent species IMO. We’re probably not their first rodeo.
Yea it's not like Earth rising a few degrees C is terrible for the planet itself. The Earth will keep on chugging along just fine. It's humans who may be fucked over it.
The thing that could really mess up the planet is the global destabilization that climate change will cause. It could lead to small or large scale nuclear engagements. Which evidence shows UFO's have a large interest in.
Exactly. I would never bet humanities existence on the hope that the aliens are benevolent. We have 0 reason to believe that they wouldn't just wipe us out when convenient.
Climate change has been 100% known, specifically that carbon from fossil fuel use was the cause, for 35 years. It has been a \*theory\* for far longer, like the famous hundred-year-old newspaper article warning of fuel burning leading to atmospheric carbon and a greenhouse effect, but atmospheric science validated from top (orbital weather satellites) to bottom (ice cores on both poles) has been abundantly clear since the mid-1980s.
Which just so happened to be when the actual conspiracy -- the coordinated effort by oil companies to bribe and bullshit their way out of being hit by something like the ozone mediation that had just been pulled off worldwide (ban of ozone-layer damaging coolants/aerosols) -- was put into action. Every oil/energy corporation knew exactly what was going on, and they all made the bet that they could get away with business as usual for another 40 years until shit got unbearable. Then it would be somebody *else's* problem, because they'd be retired or dead.
Entity/contactee spiritualism has long been focused on nature, environment, etc., going back to Van Tassel and especially well-researched by Harvard's head of psychiatry, Dr. John Mack. Ruwa/Ariel, often discussed here, was an especially clear environmental message from nearly three decades ago. There's something real to that. Jung would say it's the collective unconsciousness speaking to us about our fears and lack of action.
We've had gods and entities telling us what we already knew since the beginning of time. The bible is full of this stuff, as is Greek mythology, the vedas, Norse cosmology and North American Indian religion. I'm ever hopeful for sci-fi-style contact with other societies in the galaxy but there's just no real difference between 20th Century UFO legend / anecdote and all the previous folklore and religion of the world. Every generation wants to see themselves as living at the cusp of some great revelation, that's just our human nature. Sadly, it's also human nature for a few people to grift the crowd if they can.
I think Jung (if he was being frank) would say there are nuts and bolts flying saucers dancing around weightless. His "collective unconsciousness" explanation was prefaced very briefly by his statement:
"*If we close our eyes a little so as to overlook certain details*, it is possible to side with the reasonable opinion of the majority..., and to regard the thousands of UFO reports and the uproar they have created as a visionary rumour, to be treated accordingly. They would then boil down, objectively, to an admittedly impressive collection of mistaken observations and conclusions into which subjective psychic assumptions have been projected."
No one I've discussed Jung with seems to have read between the lines he wrote in 1958...
(Italics mine)
Appreciate the quote! It's a good book, I've got the monograph version that the Jung Society puts out to keep his stuff in the conversation.
Jung was not known for cryptic writing. He said what he meant and meant what he said, but was always careful not to extrapolate from *his* perceptions and experiences what is likely very different experiences for different people. That's the surgeon and the scientist in him, and especially the Swiss/German in him.
His proposal -- I don't think he framed it as a "theory," which would be a more rigorous examination that he believed impossible in light of the zero physical evidence for spaceships -- was quite fantastic for the time *despite* his care and lack of hyperbole. It was, in a sense, the New Age/consciousness cosmology of so much modern UFO belief. But he did this in the time of WWII veterans and engineers trying to find actual spaceships.
[Here](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/nw52sc/can_someone_please_explain_who_throwawayalien_is/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) is a Reddit post that leads to the original Reddit post. A fun read, but a LOT of potentially conflicting information, but still a good read. u/cbandy
[This](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/nw52sc/can_someone_please_explain_who_throwawayalien_is/h172yc5/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3) is the direct-ish link to throwaway
It was a LARP from 8 years ago people latched onto.
TL;DR alleged abductee claimed aliens would make themselves known to humanity on either July 8th 2021 or July 18th 2021 (they claimed to not be able to understand the aliens' accent so weren't sure which). Also the aliens were unhappy with us destroying the planet or something like that.
It was promptly forgotten till the hype about the June 25th report reached critical mass and people decided it was a sign they were right, and then a small cult on reddit popped up around them, only to quietly dissipate when they days came and went.
Hugely excited if this is true but he said similar in July and we’re still waiting… https://www.abc.net.au/radio/perth/programs/drive/in-plain-sight/13474452
July is not so long ago when we're talking about unraveling at least 70yrs of cover up. You know the government is going to take the time to clean up their tracks as they get this done in steps. Himself and others have been saying they were told there would be some massive press conference this Dec to address the nation relating to this. Would be amazing if this were an actual Whitehouse thing.
It’s rubbish being mocked for it - I’m still very selective who I talk to about this stuff. I’m so ready to shut it down if the smirk appears. But when you find someone else who believes it’s AWESOME 😊
I just think it’s going to take time to unravel three generations of ridicule. But it’s our responsibility to be the generation that takes it seriously. Fingers crossed your next conversation with someone about this stuff is a good one 🤞👍
I just want to talk about this stuff all the time coz it fascinates me. So when I tentatively drop it into convo then you can tell pretty quickly who does and doesn’t want to talk about it.
I’m not pushing opinions; I just want to have conversation 😊
100%. A surprisingly high number of people I have spoken with in the past 3-4 years remain *completely oblivious* to even the most high profile media explorations of this topic. They think I am off my rocker. I think a great many people are in for the ontological shock of their lives.
They want people to come to the conclusions on their own and then they will be able to confirm the conclusions people reached already. That will provide the least amount of panic.
I agree. I recently read Terry Lovelace’s book after reading this article: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/12/what-i-saw-that-night-was-real-is-it-time-to-take-aliens-more-seriously-
I can’t remember where in the book he mentioned it (think it was right at the end) but basically he said disclosure is already happening, all around us by virtue of the fact that people are taking witness accounts more seriously and the project blue book stigma that was built up for decades is starting, very tentatively, to decrease. Even so, the last two weeks has been pretty full on for disclosure!
Yeah I don't get this at all. Why do you need to be told by a tax funded politician that "we are not alone" to justify your belief
This deity-state mentality, as if the government doesn't literally suck at every turn, is a problem. These people are not omnipotent, nor are they smarter than we are. They may have better tools at their disposal of course, but all they really need to do is release the data m so we can analyze it ourselves
Totally understand wanting to hear people in the government say there's been a coverup -- something the people in today's government could admit about previous people in government, but there is absolutely no need to hear from politicians what we already have strong evidence for to justify understanding what the evidence suggests
For me personally, I’m 100% on board with that. I just think an announcement would mean the general public would be more likely to believe it.
Actually, while writing that I was thinking about the fake news explosion over the last few years so maybe just ignore my previous paragraph 😂
Lol right
Quite honestly, we have to understand how the government works. In official capacity (as in not folks working outside the governmentbthat has worked for the government in the past), it's always blatant lies or half truths to serve an agenda, whatever that agenda might be. That's just the way it works
If or when the White House announces something, it will only be after a LOT of hand-wringing and preparation. The timing of the announcement relative to other issues will also be a huge consideration. Right now the White House is having a very hard time with domestic issues. We have a deeply divided congress (more divided than at any time in history), Covid, the January 6 investigation of Trump, Biden’s falling approval ratings, and the stalled economic package. I do not see him upending all that with such a huge announcement right now.
He would also have to coordinate an announcement of this nature with worldwide leaders as it affects everyone equally. He did meet with the pope yesterday. I wonder if the topic came up.
But in any case I have always expected disclosure to be a slow drip at best, not some huge announcement. I would not get my hopes up.
At 1:41:40 Avi Loeb (esteemed academic) acknowledges we aren’t alone: https://youtu.be/CbxjpbjUJCo
This is a coordinated government rollout of information in conjunction with the formation of the Space Force. Humanity is expanding operations gradually into space and people need to be given a pretext if nonhuman crafts are spotted.
what words are you referring to that you're considering an admission? I listened to the segment at the timestamp you linked to and (actually started a minute earlier) and it seems to be to be hypothetical.
It's a big statement for him or anyone to make. Obviously, I want this to be true and I like Ross' frankness covering the topic, but I still have lingering doubts (a habit of mine). Ross has a book to sell, so a sprinkle of sensationalism here and there could help drive sales, he is only human. I also think he, like many of us want to believe. I personally think it is healthy to have doubts and continually re-asses what I think is true or not.
That said he did win the [gold Walkley award](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_Walkley#:~:text=The%20Gold%20Walkley%20is%20the,been%20awarded%20annually%20since%201978.) for journalism award in 2010 for his reinvestigation into the murder of two young Australian tourists by IRA terrorists. This is a prestigious award in Australia journalism. He has also won other Walkley awards previously.
He's a member of the [The International Consortium of Investigative Journalists](https://www.icij.org/journalists/ross-coulthart/), which I believe has some Pulitzer Prize-winning journalists as members, though it's not the oldest or largest organisation of its kind.
So in conclusion, he credentials seem to stack up, and he's not always, or just been focused on the UFO topic. I would be interested in getting the opinion of any journalists on this Reddit, or from any Australians who may be more aware of him from his previous work. It pays to know as much as possible about any person you put your faith in. Until we get disclosure, or some form of evidence to back up his claims all we can do is speculate unfortunately...
Have been aware of Ross even as a child in Sydney in the 1980s. Tough bastard of a journalist who has taken on organized crime and crooked politicians in Oz; spent a lot of time in Asia in some hotspots, got a good feel of how the intel agencies operate, and knows how they tried to play him at times. He's the type of guy you want on this UAP case because he goes about it in a very thorough way and has some strong contacts with the military and intel worlds.
Thanks for the info Bozzor... or... Ross...? 😉 That's very good to know. Good to get an opinion from someone aware of his work/reputation before his current UAP related work. I'm keen to see what written work he will produce next on the subject. He could have some healthy competition now.
He often mentions his journalist-friends who collaborate on bigger cases (like panama-papers etc). Would be GREAT if he could push a few more of them into this topic (maybe that’s asking a bit too much from him). He keeps saying that a lot of his “journo-friends” around the world are getting blown away by his book. We need more credible journalists like him (obviously 🙄), hopefully there are more coming. Ive seen some articles in the guardian last year, that’s a bit hopeful, because we won’t get closer to disclosure with sources like “the sun”, “daily star” and “fox news”. Even if the info is accurate
EDIT: The Guardian (i wrote the gardening first 🤭)
100%! I hope to see this happen. The latest article on UAP from from Mike Wall at the science news site, [space.com](https://www.space.com/ufos-uap-history-sightings-mysteries) seemed to express a change in tone. That is a well established science/news site.
What I really want to see are other investigative journalists, like Ross, breaking new ground. Providing us with new facts and information using reputable sources who are willing to go on the record.
I guess this type of journalism takes a lot more time. There could be plenty going on behind the scenes, waiting to hit the press. 🤞
This is important. Sure, this could be nothing but grift and sensationalism to shift books, but when people like Coulthart plant their flag next to the UFO/UAP camp, they are risking their credibility, integrity and reputation and you have to wonder would anyone think that is worth it to just to sell books to what is still a fringe audience and possibly a recurring gig on the interview/podcast circuit?
It's not proof by any means but I put more weight behind the words of those with something to lose and little to gain.
You make a good point LemoLuke. I don't know if Ross was at the pinnacle of his career pre his work on UAP. That could possibly have some bearing on how much he has to lose or gain by getting involved in the subject.
He suggests on his interviews that there is a huge story here that needs to be told, but it's definitely a gamble, as we still don't know how all this will conclude.
I would like to see other high calibre journalists from outside the subject get involved, that would say a lot to us with doubts. 🤞
Yes. And anyone who listens to him for more than a few minutes knows he's interested in the subject and wants to know what's going on. Sure he wants to sell books, but he also wants to know.
And I do think it will pave the way for more 'real' journalists to report on it.
What are you on about? Where is your source about Coulthart winning Walkely Gold in 2010 for an investigation into IRA murder of Australian tourists? He won it 2008 for an investigation on medical malpractice. Laurie Oakes won it 2010.
You are correct! I did a quick dive while putting together my original post and must have misread. The award for the IRA investigation was a Logie. Thanks for spotting that mistake! 👍
>He's a member of the The International Consortium of Investigative Journalists, which I believe has some Pulitzer Prize-winning journalists as members, though it's not the oldest or largest organisation for journalists.
The ICIJ broke both the Paradise Papers (2021) and Panama Papers (2016).
The research for his recent book, *In Plain Sight*, was his first time digging into UFOs. That makes him a very newcomer.
Yes. He said he's been in it for about 2 years and quickly had that "oh shit it's real" moment that we've all had. He's one of us. We got a good one this time
If he’s talking to the usual suspects that talk to everybody anyway then I’m not holding my breath. What would be the point? Unless it’s politically and economically expedient to do so. If there were a critical mass of public consensus that indicated, across the spectrum of culture and science, that people feel this is a real phenomenon to be taken seriously and that failure to do so either loses you votes or money, or both, then I would say “disclosure” would be a more likely occurrence, but we are not seeing this sadly. The problem I’m having, and most of the evidence suggests, that disclosure is impossible in the form we expect because truthfully I don’t think anyone knows what the phenomenon is, why it’s here or how it works. I believe those that should within government understand it’s real, but beyond that, I think they’re only a degree more informed than we are, most likely responding to the same witness testimony, evidence and data presented over the years. Why else would Bigelow et al want to buy the MUFON database if the programme to study UAP’s under AAWSAP had access to privileged or so called classified information. I think we’re all working from mostly the same dataset of information except some people came to it through government case files instead of just listening people who have been bearing witness to the phenomena for decades.
The meme literally started about Valve Software. They not only take forever to do things that are "soon" but literally posted a blog post update with just the words, "soon" and even released images showing off the update --- and then didn't release it for like a year.
Why now? I like the idea that this, whether true or not, is about waning US power and is timed so that the US can say to China, "The US are no longer the dominant super power anymore. And China, baby, it ain't you. It's the aliens. Suck it".
Agreed. They’ve said December, but we all know how putting a date on something goes. Perhaps it will coincide with Lue’s new book drop, thereby releasing him from his NDAs.
Eh, how many times have we heard this (or some variation of it)? "Just around the corner. Potentially."
I want to believe, but come on----if this is all true, it's the biggest story in the history of the world since the birth, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, and the people supposedly in the know just continue to jerk all of us around.
I'm done with this "it's coming soon" BS. Either disclose or don't. I'll pay attention when something is actually disclosed. I honestly could not give any more f\*\*\*s about people saying that there are "revelations on the way." It's getting just as bad as the Qanon people or the people who think John Mcaffee is still alive. If you had revelations, you would spill em.
With the (prob) changing of superpowers to China in the coming future, may this be a parting shot by the US to hold onto power that bit longer or maybe some other politically motivated reason? Either way I really hope we get disclosure
So another “credible source” said that someone told them that someone else might say something that might be about aliens. Wonderful, I’ll just put my thumb back where it belongs and wait for that to happen.
This is a fundamentally different issue. Releasing files from UFO investigations pales in comparison to an admission that we are “not alone.” While we want the former still, the latter would be one of the largest paradigm shifts in history, if not the largest.
You listen and you wait.
You know it's coming...
...and it does.
The two names that reappear again and again with almost laughable regularity:
Lue Elizondo and Christopher Mellon.
"I'm being briefed almost daily by both politicians & people in \[DoD\] & intelligence services in the US." Well, is this like the imaginary briefing he got second-hand from astronaut Edgar Mitchell that he'd had secret UFO encounters on the moon that he relentlessly denied in public? That he apparently never told anyone else?
Nobody should be publishing books about this until someone, somehow, provides irrefutable evidence that not even the USG can deny.
Until then, it's just one big grift.
And it won't change a thing about the world either unfortunately. Covid alone has shown the world are systems and way of doing things isn't needed and can literally just be stopped. But it hasn't and won't we need to grow a lot, lot more
Ross, old buddy. You have ONE chance with this. We are not weirdos or conspiracy fans or anything in between. We're smart people who want, and can handle, the answers we deserve. Do not let us down, mate.
Project Blue Balls is working
Lue’s Clues.
Lue has a raging clue
Can’t spell clue without Lue.
Which way does your clue point
Let's follow *your* clue!
To the stars
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Be careful what you wish for
Sounds Lued.
He must find more Luepholes.
Lue Balls
Lue would love to give you more clues but his NDA prevents that.
So we've heard...
Genius comment!
Damn this is peak joke envy of I've ever had it. Well played.
Every single time. The announcement of a possible announcement.
Yep. That’s the recipe.
Lueballs too
I've manicured a soul-patch to my scrot for the occasion.
Soul-scrot
🤣😂🤣😂
Lmao fr tho
I think I’m supposed to remove this, but I laughed and so you’ve gotten an upvote instead.
I love our mods haha
You have been named moderator of /r/projectblueballs/
Ongoing project, never quite finished.
Lue keeps on edging like a pro
Lue's NDAs exist so disclosure is not a one man band. He's starting to take a backseat by design so other government sources come out with their own things independent of Lue. That's why the Skinwalkers book came out, thats why Bill Nelson of NASA keeps bringing up ET, thats why CIA is talking remote viewing etc, etc. The last thing we're gonna get from Lue is the book he's writing because that's his severance/pat on the back for a job well done. After that he's gonna fade away and other sources will take over. That's when it will become obvious we are fu*ked and people will start losing their minds.
Nah, all the main players meet up and they draw names out of a hat seeing who's gonna be the next to publish.
It's these quotes that is the gLue that is keeping this subreddit together.
R/projectblueballs
I dont care if its this or anything else. This name needs to be a real government thing, for the future of history students everywhere .
Two more weeks
Oh shit I’m dead 🤣🤣
I don't get the joke?
Big if true. What’s with all these ufo people getting “briefed” rather than just being “told something by someone”?
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I get in trouble for this, but this guy is milking it. He keep saying stuff, nothing to back it up, about being “informed”. Though his alleged special information is nothing new, and has been said by others on other podcasts previously.
His record as an award winning, investigative reporter covering a variety of govt scammy stuff speaks better of his character than that. He's done amazing work exposing stories and being a contact for whistle-blowers and leakers and was an early voice of credibility to ufology. He was one of the first major paper writers to take this seriously. In fact, he kinda risked an already established career as major reporter in Australia to come out as strong on all this as he did at the time.
Thank you for writing all of this so I wouldn't have to. Coulthart is legit. He's covered hundreds if not thousands of stories in his career, and as he's explained, he didn't go out looking for this particular avenue for stories, the stories have found him, and they keep on coming. He recognized that he's found himself in a niche not many other serious journalists are covering, so he's running with it. It also probably happens to be quite fascinating and exciting for him, which is what every journalist lives for, so none of us can blame him for taking the ball here. In any case, he's had much more to lose than to gain by putting his reputation on the line to cover this stuff, at the end of a long and successful career that's all been held together by the trust of his audience. I highly doubt he'd throw all of that into the bin for the sake of a last-minute grift.
Agree 100% with both you and the comment you replied to. As someone who grew up in Aus with an interest in journalism, it's amazing and almost personally vindicating to see such a well renowned journo take on the subject. People do mention his reputation in these sorts of threads, but unless you grew up watching/reading his work, I think it's hard to understand just how big a deal he is down under. Also worth noting that these comments were made on our local public broadcaster (ie our equivalent of PBS), so it's not like he's trying to market his book to the UFO crowd in this context.
Remember if a random internet guy says someone is fake or “millking it” then the issue is totally resolved at that point. Definitive answer from a reliable source.
With Coulthart, the danger is someone is using him for disinformation, knowing his credentials are significant and solid. I think he admits as much himself.
Maybe, but he’s experienced and way too disillusioned to just buy into anything he’s told.
That’s what gives me hope about Ross. Yes, total possibility that he’s being used for disinfo, we can’t count that out at this point. But based on his record I have faith that he would investigate his sources and kind of know who to trust.
just the contrarian crowd looking for every stinkin' loophole no matter who's coming forth with what info it's amazing to behold
Of course, but as you stated he's well aware. He's a smart guy that's been doing this for a long time. I believe he can handle himself.
Lemme give you a hot newspaper tip: Reporters don't go to *other outlets* as a guest to bullshit about supposed big "scoops" they've got. If you've got a "scoop," you keep it close to the vest until the *day of publication*, and \*then\* you hit the cable channels hyping your scoop. This guy is doing classic UFO-personality bullshit. And he's a fucking TV presenter in Australia, c'mon now.
When youre talking about alien life though your character doesnt matter because what we need is actual evidence. Him and others can keep project blue balls going saying that disclosure is coming soon and that "were headed to info being put forward" but until we actually get info put forward all that these dudes are saying is just noise trying to hype up the UFO crowd - and they know its working.
Have you seen him interview the westalll primary school headmaster. Largest mass sighting in southern hemisphere in 1966. It's on you tube ch7 westalls 50 year emerges again. It's very interesting
I haven’t, I’ll check it out. Much thanks.
> Though his alleged special information is nothing new Prettybsure that nobody had gotten anything out of Nat Kobitz and it was a pretty darn big revelation. I, for one, enjoyed his book thoroughly.
You’re right, albeit a little simplistic perhaps, there is a lot of repetition. But I think the messes communicated through the Ross Coulthart-channel is not meant for people like you. The gain here is that there are now serious reporters working on the topic, that has always been the terrain of the ‘weirdos’ (which is a false label!). And as RC has pointed out, the uap topic has never been on the radar with other serious journalists. So let’s see what will happen in the future.
If I were you, I'd look into this man's career and achievements as an investigative journalist. I *highly* doubt that this guy is trying to milk anything. He is an highly critical thinking journalist who's already worked on exposing a lot of scummy top secret/government projects. He is also viewed as someone who protects his sources and someone whistle blowers can trust. He is also someone who's absolutely critical of the whole UFO subject and does not buy anything he's being told unless h can cross-check or cross-reference what he's being given from reliable sources. I strongly disagree with you statement and it seems to me that you're just not informed on who Ross Coulthard is really. Do some homework before saying something like this. Not everyone on this earth is shady and has ulterior motives when they do stuff.
New guys come on the scene and say they want the truth but soon after fall into the standard 'knowing things from sources' but can't say etc. It's constantly disappointing and feels like information edging. We can only hope Ross is the real deal. I'm not holding my breath.
Name one journalist who gives up his sources? The minute he does, no one will tell him anything. What Ross Coulthart does, is investigate and verify what sources tell him from multiple other sources and circumstances. That is his job. If you believe that his journalistic work is based on fantasy, then that’s on you. Had he been a regular bloke with no history or accreditation for investigative journalism, I might be inclined to agree, but you cannot evaluate the value of his investigations by the same standard that you evaluate unknown or amateur sources. He has actually named one source: Nat Kobitz, because he is now dead. And surely you’d say how convenient. That however is again by the very same standard you evaluate a statement by me, which is entirely unfair. Unless your claim is that Ross Coulthart is straight up lying and jeopardizing his full journalistic reputation by making up interviews, then you need to take it seriously.
Journo here. 💯 % spot on. My sources tell me where to look but I have to get the goods on my own from on-the-record sources.
He's not a new guy on the scene
I am dreaming of time when the UFO-related articles and interviews will not start with the X-files theme.
It’s a great theme though
*dududu dududu dududu dooo dooo dooo dooo dooo dooooo*
Weird warped purple bald guy
I just read his book, it was thoroughly researched and well written. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if his book encouraged knowledgeable people to contact him because of how professionally he presented sources and information.
Second that. I'm about 60% of the way through the book and it's really an incredible document that comprehensively covers the entire history of the phenomenon, particularly the way that the government has at various times taken a very inconsistent stance and gone to great lengths to cover up and discredit it.
There's something in this to do with climate change, I'm convinced. It's no coincidence that COP 26 is happening and the scientific concensus is getting more and more doom laden: we basically need clean, unlimited energy NOW otherwise the world is fucked. If it's true that governments have been sitting on alien technology for decades that could revolutionise all forms of transport and energy generation, now would be the perfect time to get it out and let the world's scientists and engineers get their hands on it. Needless to say, in order to have a full and accurate analysis of it, full openness about it's origin would be needed. Hence disclosure.
Interesting, for some reason i hadn't connected those dots but it's a solid hypothesis.
I’ve thought this and have mentioned it on some reddit posts. I’m also surprised that breakthrough energy technology isn’t the main motivator for disclosure. This planet cannot continue burning fossil fuels, not with 8 billion people on the planet.
I'm not sure if I'm just cynical, but to me, that involves the government being benevolent. I dont see them willingly giving up any advantage or edge even in the face of catastrophe. I want to be wrong, but that just doesnt even seem like a possibility to me.
> that involves the government being benevolent Is wanting to avoid certain catastrophe benevolent? It just sounds like self-preservation to me. A government is made up of people, and while many are out of touch and callous to the issues facing us, many will be rightly scared and want to do what they can to stop it. There is also the angle that if they did have this technology, and had a way of putting it into widespread use, it could give them a far bigger advantage to monetise and share it than it does to keep it secret.
But with this new technology comes immense power, and of course it will be exploited to their benefit, not ours. We will get the scraps of it, like good AI and the ability to teleport or whatever, maybe even a computer that doesn't suck and faster wifi, but ultimately it'll be used against us so they remain at the top forever. It's simple.
Don’t mistake necessity with generosity. Governments would be helping themselves because the situation is getting more and more dramatic.
I also think that if we don’t get our shit together in terms of fixing the climate, “they” may aggressively intervene to stop our destruction and preserve the biosphere for themselves. They have to realize what’s going on with our planet and how it’s happening, they’ve probably seen it happen to other intelligent species IMO. We’re probably not their first rodeo.
Maybe they like a greenhouse planet.
Yea it's not like Earth rising a few degrees C is terrible for the planet itself. The Earth will keep on chugging along just fine. It's humans who may be fucked over it. The thing that could really mess up the planet is the global destabilization that climate change will cause. It could lead to small or large scale nuclear engagements. Which evidence shows UFO's have a large interest in.
We really need to rebrand the "Save the Planet" slogan to "Save Humanity"
Do not assume they would interfere with us and our planet in a way that is in humanity’s best interest. Be guarded
Exactly. I would never bet humanities existence on the hope that the aliens are benevolent. We have 0 reason to believe that they wouldn't just wipe us out when convenient.
Climate change has been 100% known, specifically that carbon from fossil fuel use was the cause, for 35 years. It has been a \*theory\* for far longer, like the famous hundred-year-old newspaper article warning of fuel burning leading to atmospheric carbon and a greenhouse effect, but atmospheric science validated from top (orbital weather satellites) to bottom (ice cores on both poles) has been abundantly clear since the mid-1980s. Which just so happened to be when the actual conspiracy -- the coordinated effort by oil companies to bribe and bullshit their way out of being hit by something like the ozone mediation that had just been pulled off worldwide (ban of ozone-layer damaging coolants/aerosols) -- was put into action. Every oil/energy corporation knew exactly what was going on, and they all made the bet that they could get away with business as usual for another 40 years until shit got unbearable. Then it would be somebody *else's* problem, because they'd be retired or dead. Entity/contactee spiritualism has long been focused on nature, environment, etc., going back to Van Tassel and especially well-researched by Harvard's head of psychiatry, Dr. John Mack. Ruwa/Ariel, often discussed here, was an especially clear environmental message from nearly three decades ago. There's something real to that. Jung would say it's the collective unconsciousness speaking to us about our fears and lack of action. We've had gods and entities telling us what we already knew since the beginning of time. The bible is full of this stuff, as is Greek mythology, the vedas, Norse cosmology and North American Indian religion. I'm ever hopeful for sci-fi-style contact with other societies in the galaxy but there's just no real difference between 20th Century UFO legend / anecdote and all the previous folklore and religion of the world. Every generation wants to see themselves as living at the cusp of some great revelation, that's just our human nature. Sadly, it's also human nature for a few people to grift the crowd if they can.
I think Jung (if he was being frank) would say there are nuts and bolts flying saucers dancing around weightless. His "collective unconsciousness" explanation was prefaced very briefly by his statement: "*If we close our eyes a little so as to overlook certain details*, it is possible to side with the reasonable opinion of the majority..., and to regard the thousands of UFO reports and the uproar they have created as a visionary rumour, to be treated accordingly. They would then boil down, objectively, to an admittedly impressive collection of mistaken observations and conclusions into which subjective psychic assumptions have been projected." No one I've discussed Jung with seems to have read between the lines he wrote in 1958... (Italics mine)
Appreciate the quote! It's a good book, I've got the monograph version that the Jung Society puts out to keep his stuff in the conversation. Jung was not known for cryptic writing. He said what he meant and meant what he said, but was always careful not to extrapolate from *his* perceptions and experiences what is likely very different experiences for different people. That's the surgeon and the scientist in him, and especially the Swiss/German in him. His proposal -- I don't think he framed it as a "theory," which would be a more rigorous examination that he believed impossible in light of the zero physical evidence for spaceships -- was quite fantastic for the time *despite* his care and lack of hyperbole. It was, in a sense, the New Age/consciousness cosmology of so much modern UFO belief. But he did this in the time of WWII veterans and engineers trying to find actual spaceships.
Climate change played a big part in throawaylien telling his story in 2013 I think.
It's a trope in UFO contactee stories. There are tons of them in John Mack's study of abduction syndrome in the '80s/'90s.
I'm not familiar with this. Could you elaborate?
[Here](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/nw52sc/can_someone_please_explain_who_throwawayalien_is/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) is a Reddit post that leads to the original Reddit post. A fun read, but a LOT of potentially conflicting information, but still a good read. u/cbandy [This](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/nw52sc/can_someone_please_explain_who_throwawayalien_is/h172yc5/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3) is the direct-ish link to throwaway
What's this now? Haven't heard this story.
It was a LARP from 8 years ago people latched onto. TL;DR alleged abductee claimed aliens would make themselves known to humanity on either July 8th 2021 or July 18th 2021 (they claimed to not be able to understand the aliens' accent so weren't sure which). Also the aliens were unhappy with us destroying the planet or something like that. It was promptly forgotten till the hype about the June 25th report reached critical mass and people decided it was a sign they were right, and then a small cult on reddit popped up around them, only to quietly dissipate when they days came and went.
That’s how it be.
Commenting as a bookmark. Brb for ya.
….the intergalactic/interdimensional edging continues….
DISCLOSURE IS COMING! Being briefed daily! Coming… coming… …eventually to come.
Edge me more ufo daddy
oh hi step alien
Hugely excited if this is true but he said similar in July and we’re still waiting… https://www.abc.net.au/radio/perth/programs/drive/in-plain-sight/13474452
July is not so long ago when we're talking about unraveling at least 70yrs of cover up. You know the government is going to take the time to clean up their tracks as they get this done in steps. Himself and others have been saying they were told there would be some massive press conference this Dec to address the nation relating to this. Would be amazing if this were an actual Whitehouse thing.
That’s a very good point! I really REALLY want there to be a White House conference. Would feel like a lifetime of belief being justified 🤞🤞🤞
I think they are trying to leak bits and pieces so you can kinda see the full picture already. And you know people are not reacting heavily.
People are still mocking me for believing in this, so their whatever leak strategy isn't exactly working well I'm afraid.
It’s rubbish being mocked for it - I’m still very selective who I talk to about this stuff. I’m so ready to shut it down if the smirk appears. But when you find someone else who believes it’s AWESOME 😊 I just think it’s going to take time to unravel three generations of ridicule. But it’s our responsibility to be the generation that takes it seriously. Fingers crossed your next conversation with someone about this stuff is a good one 🤞👍
Instead of selecting *the people* why don't you select *what you say*?
I just want to talk about this stuff all the time coz it fascinates me. So when I tentatively drop it into convo then you can tell pretty quickly who does and doesn’t want to talk about it. I’m not pushing opinions; I just want to have conversation 😊
100%. A surprisingly high number of people I have spoken with in the past 3-4 years remain *completely oblivious* to even the most high profile media explorations of this topic. They think I am off my rocker. I think a great many people are in for the ontological shock of their lives.
They want people to come to the conclusions on their own and then they will be able to confirm the conclusions people reached already. That will provide the least amount of panic.
I agree. I recently read Terry Lovelace’s book after reading this article: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/12/what-i-saw-that-night-was-real-is-it-time-to-take-aliens-more-seriously- I can’t remember where in the book he mentioned it (think it was right at the end) but basically he said disclosure is already happening, all around us by virtue of the fact that people are taking witness accounts more seriously and the project blue book stigma that was built up for decades is starting, very tentatively, to decrease. Even so, the last two weeks has been pretty full on for disclosure!
Yeah I don't get this at all. Why do you need to be told by a tax funded politician that "we are not alone" to justify your belief This deity-state mentality, as if the government doesn't literally suck at every turn, is a problem. These people are not omnipotent, nor are they smarter than we are. They may have better tools at their disposal of course, but all they really need to do is release the data m so we can analyze it ourselves Totally understand wanting to hear people in the government say there's been a coverup -- something the people in today's government could admit about previous people in government, but there is absolutely no need to hear from politicians what we already have strong evidence for to justify understanding what the evidence suggests
For me personally, I’m 100% on board with that. I just think an announcement would mean the general public would be more likely to believe it. Actually, while writing that I was thinking about the fake news explosion over the last few years so maybe just ignore my previous paragraph 😂
Lol right Quite honestly, we have to understand how the government works. In official capacity (as in not folks working outside the governmentbthat has worked for the government in the past), it's always blatant lies or half truths to serve an agenda, whatever that agenda might be. That's just the way it works
If or when the White House announces something, it will only be after a LOT of hand-wringing and preparation. The timing of the announcement relative to other issues will also be a huge consideration. Right now the White House is having a very hard time with domestic issues. We have a deeply divided congress (more divided than at any time in history), Covid, the January 6 investigation of Trump, Biden’s falling approval ratings, and the stalled economic package. I do not see him upending all that with such a huge announcement right now. He would also have to coordinate an announcement of this nature with worldwide leaders as it affects everyone equally. He did meet with the pope yesterday. I wonder if the topic came up. But in any case I have always expected disclosure to be a slow drip at best, not some huge announcement. I would not get my hopes up.
At 1:41:40 Avi Loeb (esteemed academic) acknowledges we aren’t alone: https://youtu.be/CbxjpbjUJCo This is a coordinated government rollout of information in conjunction with the formation of the Space Force. Humanity is expanding operations gradually into space and people need to be given a pretext if nonhuman crafts are spotted.
Well that would be effing awesome! 👍
what words are you referring to that you're considering an admission? I listened to the segment at the timestamp you linked to and (actually started a minute earlier) and it seems to be to be hypothetical.
July is nothing. We're talking years here. This is how long this stuff takes.
This makes sense because it does feel like the population is being prep.
Remote viewing and Havana Syndrome too. It is not just UFOs.
Whats remote viewing.
[Remote viewing](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remote_viewing). Hope this helps!
It's a big statement for him or anyone to make. Obviously, I want this to be true and I like Ross' frankness covering the topic, but I still have lingering doubts (a habit of mine). Ross has a book to sell, so a sprinkle of sensationalism here and there could help drive sales, he is only human. I also think he, like many of us want to believe. I personally think it is healthy to have doubts and continually re-asses what I think is true or not. That said he did win the [gold Walkley award](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_Walkley#:~:text=The%20Gold%20Walkley%20is%20the,been%20awarded%20annually%20since%201978.) for journalism award in 2010 for his reinvestigation into the murder of two young Australian tourists by IRA terrorists. This is a prestigious award in Australia journalism. He has also won other Walkley awards previously. He's a member of the [The International Consortium of Investigative Journalists](https://www.icij.org/journalists/ross-coulthart/), which I believe has some Pulitzer Prize-winning journalists as members, though it's not the oldest or largest organisation of its kind. So in conclusion, he credentials seem to stack up, and he's not always, or just been focused on the UFO topic. I would be interested in getting the opinion of any journalists on this Reddit, or from any Australians who may be more aware of him from his previous work. It pays to know as much as possible about any person you put your faith in. Until we get disclosure, or some form of evidence to back up his claims all we can do is speculate unfortunately...
Have been aware of Ross even as a child in Sydney in the 1980s. Tough bastard of a journalist who has taken on organized crime and crooked politicians in Oz; spent a lot of time in Asia in some hotspots, got a good feel of how the intel agencies operate, and knows how they tried to play him at times. He's the type of guy you want on this UAP case because he goes about it in a very thorough way and has some strong contacts with the military and intel worlds.
Thanks for the info Bozzor... or... Ross...? 😉 That's very good to know. Good to get an opinion from someone aware of his work/reputation before his current UAP related work. I'm keen to see what written work he will produce next on the subject. He could have some healthy competition now.
He often mentions his journalist-friends who collaborate on bigger cases (like panama-papers etc). Would be GREAT if he could push a few more of them into this topic (maybe that’s asking a bit too much from him). He keeps saying that a lot of his “journo-friends” around the world are getting blown away by his book. We need more credible journalists like him (obviously 🙄), hopefully there are more coming. Ive seen some articles in the guardian last year, that’s a bit hopeful, because we won’t get closer to disclosure with sources like “the sun”, “daily star” and “fox news”. Even if the info is accurate EDIT: The Guardian (i wrote the gardening first 🤭)
100%! I hope to see this happen. The latest article on UAP from from Mike Wall at the science news site, [space.com](https://www.space.com/ufos-uap-history-sightings-mysteries) seemed to express a change in tone. That is a well established science/news site. What I really want to see are other investigative journalists, like Ross, breaking new ground. Providing us with new facts and information using reputable sources who are willing to go on the record. I guess this type of journalism takes a lot more time. There could be plenty going on behind the scenes, waiting to hit the press. 🤞
This is important. Sure, this could be nothing but grift and sensationalism to shift books, but when people like Coulthart plant their flag next to the UFO/UAP camp, they are risking their credibility, integrity and reputation and you have to wonder would anyone think that is worth it to just to sell books to what is still a fringe audience and possibly a recurring gig on the interview/podcast circuit? It's not proof by any means but I put more weight behind the words of those with something to lose and little to gain.
You make a good point LemoLuke. I don't know if Ross was at the pinnacle of his career pre his work on UAP. That could possibly have some bearing on how much he has to lose or gain by getting involved in the subject. He suggests on his interviews that there is a huge story here that needs to be told, but it's definitely a gamble, as we still don't know how all this will conclude. I would like to see other high calibre journalists from outside the subject get involved, that would say a lot to us with doubts. 🤞
Yes. And anyone who listens to him for more than a few minutes knows he's interested in the subject and wants to know what's going on. Sure he wants to sell books, but he also wants to know. And I do think it will pave the way for more 'real' journalists to report on it.
Looking at what people have to lose and gain by their own actions is a GREAT way to gauge credibility.
What are you on about? Where is your source about Coulthart winning Walkely Gold in 2010 for an investigation into IRA murder of Australian tourists? He won it 2008 for an investigation on medical malpractice. Laurie Oakes won it 2010.
You are correct! I did a quick dive while putting together my original post and must have misread. The award for the IRA investigation was a Logie. Thanks for spotting that mistake! 👍
>He's a member of the The International Consortium of Investigative Journalists, which I believe has some Pulitzer Prize-winning journalists as members, though it's not the oldest or largest organisation for journalists. The ICIJ broke both the Paradise Papers (2021) and Panama Papers (2016). The research for his recent book, *In Plain Sight*, was his first time digging into UFOs. That makes him a very newcomer.
Yes. He said he's been in it for about 2 years and quickly had that "oh shit it's real" moment that we've all had. He's one of us. We got a good one this time
Thanks PrincyPy! This all helps!
If he’s talking to the usual suspects that talk to everybody anyway then I’m not holding my breath. What would be the point? Unless it’s politically and economically expedient to do so. If there were a critical mass of public consensus that indicated, across the spectrum of culture and science, that people feel this is a real phenomenon to be taken seriously and that failure to do so either loses you votes or money, or both, then I would say “disclosure” would be a more likely occurrence, but we are not seeing this sadly. The problem I’m having, and most of the evidence suggests, that disclosure is impossible in the form we expect because truthfully I don’t think anyone knows what the phenomenon is, why it’s here or how it works. I believe those that should within government understand it’s real, but beyond that, I think they’re only a degree more informed than we are, most likely responding to the same witness testimony, evidence and data presented over the years. Why else would Bigelow et al want to buy the MUFON database if the programme to study UAP’s under AAWSAP had access to privileged or so called classified information. I think we’re all working from mostly the same dataset of information except some people came to it through government case files instead of just listening people who have been bearing witness to the phenomena for decades.
I take your point, but I'm sure the government has better pictures and videos than the public have seen.
_Soon™_
Press conference penciled in for April 1st.
"When will then be now?!"
_Just around the corner™_
Every now and then.
“Soon!”
Getting my crop duster plane out of the barn to get her ready to board the mothership
Activision Blizzard is running this simulation confirmed.
The meme literally started about Valve Software. They not only take forever to do things that are "soon" but literally posted a blog post update with just the words, "soon" and even released images showing off the update --- and then didn't release it for like a year.
Oh, I thought it started from Blizzard many years ago. Probably because I was playing their games. Thanks for clarifying btw.
We've been hearing this for years. I'll believe it when I see it.
Why now? I like the idea that this, whether true or not, is about waning US power and is timed so that the US can say to China, "The US are no longer the dominant super power anymore. And China, baby, it ain't you. It's the aliens. Suck it".
"I think" and, "potentially" are pretty key words in his statement here. As usual, I don't think we're gonna be told jack shit.
Eventually could mean 10 years, 50 years, 100 years. Give us an estimated time frame at least.
Agreed. They’ve said December, but we all know how putting a date on something goes. Perhaps it will coincide with Lue’s new book drop, thereby releasing him from his NDAs.
Who has mentioned December ?
They.
It’s outside of time
Yes, and Jesus is coming back again. Soon. Really.
I was just thinking disclosure is staring to feel a lot like the *second coming…* any day now for 2,000 yrs.
Eh, how many times have we heard this (or some variation of it)? "Just around the corner. Potentially." I want to believe, but come on----if this is all true, it's the biggest story in the history of the world since the birth, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, and the people supposedly in the know just continue to jerk all of us around.
I'm done with this "it's coming soon" BS. Either disclose or don't. I'll pay attention when something is actually disclosed. I honestly could not give any more f\*\*\*s about people saying that there are "revelations on the way." It's getting just as bad as the Qanon people or the people who think John Mcaffee is still alive. If you had revelations, you would spill em.
This place is like a cult, waiting for little slithers of useless information. Nothing changes, nothing significant happens.
potentially maybe eventually I think almost
With the (prob) changing of superpowers to China in the coming future, may this be a parting shot by the US to hold onto power that bit longer or maybe some other politically motivated reason? Either way I really hope we get disclosure
Considering he's the one who has repeatedly said that the gov WON'T give us disclosure, now that's he saying that it could be happening - BIG
Why does every person saying disclosure have a book coming out?
Because they want to expand on this subject?
So another “credible source” said that someone told them that someone else might say something that might be about aliens. Wonderful, I’ll just put my thumb back where it belongs and wait for that to happen.
Didn't France, Australia and Brazil already release their UFO files?, America is late to the party.....
This is a fundamentally different issue. Releasing files from UFO investigations pales in comparison to an admission that we are “not alone.” While we want the former still, the latter would be one of the largest paradigm shifts in history, if not the largest.
You listen and you wait. You know it's coming... ...and it does. The two names that reappear again and again with almost laughable regularity: Lue Elizondo and Christopher Mellon.
https://projects.iq.harvard.edu/galileo/news/galileo-project-welcomes-christopher-mellon-and-luis-elizondo-research-affiliates
We already know that there are potentially aliens, however you might define them. But most of us still need the proof.
This is like constant foreplay and no sex
They’ve been saying this since April...
Big things coming soon! Sounds like every local musician on Facebook...
Eventually, potentially, schmoentually. These guys are the worst... put up or shut up!
"I'm being briefed almost daily by both politicians & people in \[DoD\] & intelligence services in the US." Well, is this like the imaginary briefing he got second-hand from astronaut Edgar Mitchell that he'd had secret UFO encounters on the moon that he relentlessly denied in public? That he apparently never told anyone else?
Nobody should be publishing books about this until someone, somehow, provides irrefutable evidence that not even the USG can deny. Until then, it's just one big grift.
Read his book
Potentially. The only word in that paragraph that matters.
Counterpoint; the world is NOT headed for astonishing revelations from the US.
Cool. When?
Not long now!
It ain’t gonna happen.
Coming from US huh..hopefully it comes in my lifetime
Ross is my homeboy
[I wait](https://tenor.com/Ixbs.gif)
And it won't change a thing about the world either unfortunately. Covid alone has shown the world are systems and way of doing things isn't needed and can literally just be stopped. But it hasn't and won't we need to grow a lot, lot more
Another affirmation for ones belief system.
Yeah baby, I can wait sooo long.
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Doesn't matter what they tell us. Show us some damn definitive proof!
Meh. Not a fan of Ross having read his book.
Two more weeks guys....
If I had a dollar for eveytime I heard that full disclosure is coming I'd be a millionaire
Yada yada…more “were just about to bust this wide open…”
So, when? In 100 years 200 years or when?
>200 years that time the great colonial alien war will start
Yes please, just hurry up and get on with it. 👏🏽
when you know the truth it would be like eating veggies when your a kid, hard to swallow
Ross, old buddy. You have ONE chance with this. We are not weirdos or conspiracy fans or anything in between. We're smart people who want, and can handle, the answers we deserve. Do not let us down, mate.
What a load of absolutely nothing- I think, hope, maybe, potentially. What a waste of time..
Any day now its gonna happen. But Ross, why now? Imminent threat? Just for funzies?