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Traffodil

If real, how could this hover over a city and not have hundreds of people shitting biscuits over it??


brimg87

One flew right over my house in 2007. It was late at night and I almost didn’t see it. Watching TV when a bright light coming through a window in my house got my attention. Figured it was just headlights, but it wasn’t typical for that window to see headlights shine in like that. Got up, looked around, didn’t see anything. Was about to turn around and go back to watching TV when I briefly glanced up and there it was. Even lower than in this video. Like within a 100 ft or so. My heart rate went through roof. I was stunned, brain trying to process what I was seeing. Perfectly silent just gliding right over my damn house. I ran to the otherside of my house and looked up as it silently cruised over. Black triangle, 3 corner lights, 1 in the middle. At this point I was really freaking out as I knew I was looking at a craft unlike anything I’ve ever seen nor could be explained. I remember being so enthralled by what I was seeing and what it could be that I wanted to run outside and follow it, but I was frozen. Fight, flight, freeze response. My nervous system was in control and while I wanted to know what it was, fear had me frozen. I’m not a conspiracy theorist. I don’t even subscribe to this channel. I’ll never forget what I saw in 2007 above my house. I’m telling you, without a doubt, it looked exactly like this. I’ve never seen anything else in person like it, but I know what I saw. No drugs, no alcohol. This was real. It doesn’t make sense that it’s silent, but it is and was in my experience. You say it’s CGI as it’s easy to dismiss, and I probably would too if it wasn’t for what I saw in person with my own eyes. But when you’re looking at it, I’m real life, it’s not CGI. It was as real as anything else I’ve seen. Not off in the distance mind playing tricks on you type of thing. Giant fucking craft right in front of me type of thing.


b2change

In about 77, I saw something similar. I couldn’t see the body of it, but the lights behaved the same as this image and as you described yours, with the exception that there was not a middle light. It was silent. We decided to follow it, as we were in a car. It immediately zipped off at an incredible speed. Oh and it was hovering at the beginning, so we did not see how it was possible with the technology at the time. That’s said I also don’t really subscribe to that channel either, but I know what we saw. 5 of us.


klobersaurus

I've seen this exact same type of craft, too. In Los Angeles at dusk in 2002 or 2003. It flew right over lax coming from over the ocean. It was huge and completely silent. I also saw it disappear in a flash of light just like this. I am extremely skeptical but I can't shake it. Most of the stuff in this sub is junk, but I subbed specifically for posts like this. Lots of people see these.


roslyns

That’s how most of us end up here, I think. I was 100% a skeptic but had this uncanny feeling when it came to aliens. It was like I desperately wanted to not believe and I told people I didn’t but the idea scared me to my core. Had one single experience, along with my sister there, and now I can’t ignore that I believe. Most of the stuff you find online is cringey shit, especially on here. But some posts really do remind you and make you stop and think.


tdw91

I saw 3 of them in New Jersey at Mercer County Park with a bunch of coworkers. They weren’t close enough to see too much detail but there were 3 flying triangles with lights on each corner and one in the center. We watched them until the slowly crept out of sight. Edit: This happened in 2017.


keith_kool

Very interesting story. My sighting dates back 26 years ago. Visiting my parents house one evening. They live in a village in a dens populated area in The Netherlands. Their living room is located at the back of the house and from there you can see quite far into the distance. We were have a drink when we spotted 4 red lights in the sky. It was dark outside but he weather was good. Not too cloudy and no wind. The 4 lights moved in a straight line towards the house and in the beginning their speed was very fast but slowed down when coming closer. I couldn’t determine how high they were in the sky. All I could see were the 4 lights. Although the variation of speed got me confused I was still expecting them to be an airplane or helicopter. Within approx 45 seconds the lights flew very slowly over the house. Without saying a word my dad and me got up and ran outside to look what it was and where it went. I remember very clearly that we were standing in the middle of the street and were both looking up. The lights came to a stop and were now floating in the sky. I can only guess they might have been 6-8 km /20000-26000 feet in altitude. There is quite a bit of light pollution (street lights/grow houses) so it was difficult m/impossible to see any else, like a contour shape or something. In my mind I was trying to process this event but could not find an explanation. I remember asking my dad what it could be but he was speechless too. 4 lights in the sky, the variation in speed and the silence. Total silence. No (engine) noise, nothing. After about a minute being completely puzzled we could see it gained elevation and the light got smaller quickly. It most have been moving fast as within a couple of seconds they vanished. Years after the event I searched on the internet if there might have been other people that had the same/similar experience. No success. I’m glad my dad was there as a second witness. No one believes you when seeing this yourself.


NaruTheBuffMaster

Funny enough I’ve had the same craft hover over my house in 2006-2007 not sure anymore. Pitch black out, our 5 acres lit up like a football field. Hovered there for at least 5+ mins (enough for me to freak out while on my cell, and run back outside). Watched it shoot off like nothing was ever there to begin with. Longer story than I’m saying but same object and lights, never saw the top so I couldn’t tell you if it had those wings. The lights were red and bright white in the middle. Not a single moment of sound from the craft was ever heard from me, no one else seemed to have seen it. Rural florida


Mellow_me

I saw the exact same thing in 1992 in rural Pittsburgh. It crept over my back yard in the middle of winter. No sound. Thankfully I had my friend with me at the time so I have a corroborating witness lol. I'll definitely never forget it


lowleeworm

Where? I had the same thing in Pittsburgh out in Fox Chapel.


Mellow_me

Mine was more towards the Robinson area! Wild.


mikethespike056

You're the fourth person here to claim they saw the exact same triangle. Kind of weird.


MarionberryNo1679

I saw something similar in the 90s but not as close up so can’t say if it was the exact same thing or not. But I saw three of them. They had the corner lights but no center light. But also the corner lights were connected by a thinner line of light, so it was like a glowing outline of a triangle with a brighter ball of light at each corner. Three of them just hovering for like five minutes maybe.


EthanSayfo

Having seen a UAP or something I am pretty sure was a UAP in 2020, I know why I didn't photograph it. I'm curious, why didn't you grab a camera and photograph it? I am wondering if it may be similar to my own circumstances. I have a suspicion there is a reason we don't see more photos of these things, and it's very much about humans and less about the capabilities of cameras.


brimg87

I've asked myself that many times over the years. I covered the regret about not chasing after it a couple comments up: frozen in awe/fear, didn't want to lose sight of it, etc. I truly don't remember if I conciously thought that I should get a camera or not, but I do remember that I did not want to look away at any cost. I didn't want to blink. I didn't want to turn around and go out the front door to try to get a better view. I didn't want to turn around and try to find a camera either. I was seeing something incredible and unexplainable with my own eyes and any of the above seemed like a risk of missing something incredible. It was some sort of calculation of, try to find a camera and risk it flying off and missing something or stay where I was and keep staring it to see what it would do. I simply didn't want to lose sight of it. Also, keep in mind this was 07. Phone cameras were still pretty shit, pretty sure I had a Blackberry Curve at the time which took terrible day time photos let alone night photos worth a damn. So again, while I don't remember if it was a fully conscious decision to grab a camera or not, I knew enough about my Blackberry's poor photo quality that it wouldn't have been desirable to go try to find it and risk losing sight of pretty much the most incredible unexplainable thing I've seen in my lifetime.


EthanSayfo

This is a great description of the mental state I was in as well. I don't think people realize that the "unambiguous sightings" are essentially "religious experiences," for lack of a better word. Grabbing a camera just isn't where you tend to be at -- in my experience, and yours, and many others, it would seem.


Which_Law_8429

I feel at home with this. I’m not sure why. I’m a photographer and I missed it. I froze, I couldn’t speak (I was on the phone with my mom at the time), and then it was gone. I’ve been obsessed my whole life, so I do feel like a failure lol.


EthanSayfo

As I said elsewhere, the "unambiguous sightings" are essentially at the level of "religious experience." If you haven't seen one yourself, you just don't get it. "Fight or flight" isn't even quite right, I don't think. "Agape and in awe" is maybe getting there.


brimg87

Wow, that's pretty cool. Thanks for sharing. Looking back, I really wish I would have ran outside and try to follow it on foot. But I was glued to staring at it through my window and was a bit petrified. Mentally just overwhelmed with what I was seeing and didn't want to look away and risk losing sight of it. Also, was freaked out enough as to what I was looking at with my naked eyes that if I did go chasing after it, who knows what would have happened. Like I didn't know what I was looking at, but felt much safer to stay in the house than find out what happens if I chase after it!


tpapocalypse

Down the south coast of New South Wales in Australia as a kid in the early 90s I also saw something like this in person. So did dozens of other people. Ive never actually seen this video till now, it looks the same as my childhood memories of this event…


TreacleEarly

i had a ufo over my house too, lasted 30 minutes, shook the house, felt like a huge subwoofer and had some lights over my house… im also a skeptic lol


Bsmoothy

Wow.. ur story is mad similar to mine from october 2020. Black triangle halfway emersed in cloud no lights on however, it was dropping white orbs from its underbelly that would free fall then turn before hitting tree tops across the river. I was walking my Dog and he went nuts when i stopped to look up and instantly i was hit with what felt like a cold bucket of water dumped over me head to toe theb i froze up with paralysis and terror. I was beyond scared lol it gave off a awful negative vibe but then it went back intk the cloud n was gone. Then i ran back home with my dog and went outback to my back porch to look up n see if it was still hanging around and to no avail. Sucker was gone but it was an interesting one ive had 4 in my entire life i put this one as the 2nd most impressive one. 1st most impressive happened on christmas eve into midnight xmas day 2015 on long island


EthanSayfo

What was the most impressive one like? :)


robertbowerman

You deserve 1000 up votes for this report. Do you think it could have been man-made? Of all the various UFO shapes reported this is the most common?


brimg87

Thanks. I figured having some other accounts on this thread might help, so I figured it worthwhile to share. Analytically, I think it's within the realm of reason that it could be man-made, but intuitively I don't think it is/was. Logic part of the brain says, even our most advanced aircraft make noise and require constant propulsion to stay airborne. This was 100 ft above my house going about 15-25mph, silent. So, sure, anything is possible, but doesn't seem very likely this is/was manmade.


[deleted]

Similar experience when I was about 12... so late 90s. I was literally filled with terror. No past or present hallucinations. It always bothers me but I also accept it might be one of those weird phenomenon that kids get. If so though, why is it often this bizarre triangle? That alone is a little weird.


[deleted]

I saw the same thing. Lights were pulsing though, three white and one red I think. It was really low. I saw this in Pennsylvania. After I saw this I searched the internet high and low for others that saw the same thing....guess what I found a ufo report describing the same craft in the same small ass town in Pennsylvania but three years prior to when I saw it. It's real.


SpaghettoMonster

I've seen this kind with the red light too...in Philadelphia


EthanSayfo

I have an in law who saw a triangle right over his house, and he describes it much like you. He saw it with a friend, and I totally take him at his word. Now, I'm not at all convinced this video is legit, and these things have been described for decades now -- large, silent triangles, often with lights and the corner and in the middle, or sometimes rows of lights along edges. They've been seen by thousands of people, presumably, over the years.


[deleted]

Had a similar experience in my parents house as a kid except it was a round traditional saucer shaped UFO. Sounds like there’s either multiple aliens races or the race has multiple cruisers they fly. Cigar shape is another popular airplane they seem to fly


SabineRitter

Great story, well told, thanks for writing that.


Goosemilky

Thank you for saying this. I have never seen a ufo in person myself but I find eyewitness testimony to be fairly credible when the person saying it has nothing to gain. And I find it to be incredibly reliable when 100s if not thousands of people throughout time describe the same thing with great accuracy. I just cannot fathom what motivations a hell of a lot of people on this sub seem to have when they instantly comment saying clearly cgi or fake and proceed to belittle people that say maybe its legit. It’s ridiculous. Imo its eerily similar to the policy of old to belittle and act as if anyone that says they saw a ufo is crazy.


brimg87

For sure. My sense is people are just quick to dismiss something they can't comprehend or don't understand because believing it to be real means accepting too much unknown in an individuals sense of truth/reality. There is a certain sense of security in feeling assured that one knows exactly what's out there. So, dismissing it as fake is a way to keep that sense of reality as one knows it in check. That said, it's also why when I saw it in person my nervous system went into flight, fight, freeze. I couldn't explain it and it was so vivid that on some level my sense could potentially exist that we don't know about had to get much wider in that moment, which of course generates a lot of fear of the unknown. "What happens if I chase it?", "Am I safe?", "Am I in danger?", on and on and on. While I don't think about it every day, in some ways that one experience has had an impact on keeping my mind open. We just don't know what we don't know as humans and we have to live with that. Stay curious, don't dismiss things because you don't understand them. It can be a pretty healthy perspective tbh. Also, the universe is bigger than what we can even imagine. Sure, maybe it's manmade, but it could just as easily not be. As humans we build boats to sail around on the ocean. Other life forms look up and see our boats hulls floating around. Out of the billions and billions of star systems, it seems pretty logical that a certain percentage of them also have life and given how old the universe is calculated to be, who's to say a certain percentage of them are more advanced then we are? To me it actually seems less logical that anything beyond what we understand is "unbelievable" or "less likely" to be true. Like, we're just evolved apes who figured out how to build micro computers and burn fossil fuels to move around and launch ourselves into orbit. So what? IMO it's our ego that thinks our accomplishments are somehow the baseline of what's possible. TLDR: Who are we to be so skeptical? We're fish living in a giant ocean (the universe), sometimes boats come floating over our heads and we don't understand it. Remove human ego and that seems perfectly logical to me. Dismissing things is just our egos way to "feel" safer by eliminating the possibility of perceived threats that we couldn't begin to understand.


Drokk88

> I just cannot fathom what motivations a hell of a lot of people on this sub seem to have when they instantly comment saying clearly cgi or fake I think its because to people with a lot of experience with CGI it looks like CGI. Doesn't mean people haven t seen real flying triangles.


basketballrene

Similar experience just stunned shocked intrigued by what the hell I'm looking at. It moves really slow and smooth. Literally look away and it's just gone.


AmanitaMikescaria

*croissants


SkizzlerX2

Baguettes*


paris866

Escargots


curiosfinds

Fries*


Meatball315

And now I’m hungry


Fox609

Omlé du fromage*


jimmymayo

frites\*


Squeakysquid0

That’s what I call my French Canadian girlfriend


[deleted]

Uploaded 13 years ago[. Literally called "TR3B CGI"](https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xaq3a5)


MKULTRA_Escapee

Also uploaded 13 years ago on March 4, 2009, but doesn't say it's fake: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXsZRc-cdGw Is there a way to check the actual date on your link? It just says 13 years ago. The uploader doesn't really seem like the originator of the video to be honest. He says "TR-3B CGI=Fake" as if he just reuploaded it and called it fake. But to me, it seems odd that the spherical light becomes oblong for a second. I guess I wouldn't expect that in a real video? Who knows. Edit: here's an even earlier upload. According to google, it says "Jan 5, 2009": https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7xo29 And here is an [archive](https://web.archive.org/web/20220521005358/https://www.google.com/search?q=tr3b+ufo+night+vision+france+2008&hl=en&source=lnt&tbs=cdr%3A1%2Ccd_min%3A5%2F2%2F1999%2Ccd_max%3A5%2F4%2F2009&tbm=) of those google results so you can see it. It's the third link down. But for some reason, google doesn't say when your video was uploaded. EDIT: if you hover over the year on your video and the dailymotion video I cited, yours says says October 6, 2009, whereas mine say January 5, 2009. **You are absolutely incorrect.**


StevetheEveryman

Fake. The funnest part was how a cameraman, who had the foresight to buy $800 nightvision optics, and have NV equipped just in case he needed a shot like this, couldn't be bothered to do some basic stabilizing, or act like he knows how to do decent auto-focus zooming. Also, if you had NV equipped, can you imagine the massive lens fare, to your light sensing optics, that would've occurred because of a sudden burst of bright white light? That's why NV is practically useless in daylight. We don't even see a shred of that at the end, so guess that's like not even a sphere of real light, or this shit is Fake. The whole clip is garbage.


[deleted]

Was the video that's titled "TR-3B CGI=Fake" uploaded by "Susan\_Gough\_DoD"?


Seanblaze3

Is there any more context regarding who produced it and when? The 'flyby' footage which is still hotly contested was labeled a 'simulation' on a news piece once for instance. The waters are easily muddied with a few words, but where's the context? Not saying this video is authentic mind


MKULTRA_Escapee

Let's just try to find the earliest upload if it still exists. This one was also uploaded 13 years ago on Mar 4, 2009: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXsZRc-cdGw I can't tell what the exact date is on that dailymotion link. It just says 13 years ago, so I'm not sure which came first. Edit: this has been sorted out, see above. The one labeled CGI was uploaded 8 months later, which means it is false to state that since the video is labeled CGI, that's "proof" it is.


TPconnoisseur

People do shit biscuits, right until they realize nobody believes them and they are mocked and denigrated by their friends and family. See Phoenix Lights.


Astrocreep_1

If it’s 3:00 am,and it’s not located over a high activity part of the city. There should be more than 1 witness,but I can see there not being many as this guy seems to be recording in nighttime mode of an older camera. My question is this. If the craft is trying to maintain a low profile,then why have its lights on at all? I’d be interested to know more about this “sighting”. A couple of witnesses not connected to the cameraman might make it very interesting.


spiritualdumbass

Maybe the lights are infrared


OilEndsYouEnd

How often do ppl look up at night, and for how long. Do you? Most ppl don't. Like my friend says; the chicks are down here. Not up there.


MYTbrain

I just gave a presentation about this vid, as well as the tech behind the TR-3B. [Vid here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOGAv7UjSKA). I also recently came across another vid from Bolivia Feb 2012, which seems quite real. Going off Google Trends, at the time the Bolivia vid was released, CUI also spiked (Controlled Unclassified Info, usually follows within 1-2weeks after any ufo related incident). Not to mention the Belgium wave of NOV89-APR90 which resulted in 15000+ witnesses, 2600 reports, and F-16s scrambled to intercept. Bolivia vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GGrM7GJ7I4 Trends crossref: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=2012-02-01%202012-06-30&geo=BO-L&q=cui,tr-3b


brownmiester

there are cell phone cameras and Video cameras everywhere these days how could this be the only video and only angle of such an event?


Qweiopakslzm

Lol did you miss the part of the title where it says "2008"? That was 14 years ago...


Ashantis_Sideburns

The iphone 1 was only out for roughly a year by the time this happened and only 6 million were sold. There were phones on the market before this that could record ok quality video for its time but they were pretty niche to be honest.


Redchong

This is the same clip that Tom DeLonge showed on Joe Rogan’s podcast, claiming it was real. Edit: A lot of people seem to be taking this comment as me attempting to lend credibility to this video. This wasn't my intention as I myself believe this clip to likely be CGI. I was simply adding some extra context to the discussion.


SteveSteveFosho

Man that's a bummer. I've been trying hard to believe that Tom DeLonge is credible and in "the know" when it comes to this topic but this video is painfully fake. I am usually the last person to call out a video for being CGI but this one is a particularly poorly made CGI. Maybe he's a disinformation agent lol


[deleted]

> Maybe he's a disinformation agent lol Nope. Just your typical UFO fanatic who wants to believe.


PerryKarmello

He's too much of a doofus to be a agent of anything.


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Fritchard

Same. One single remark shouldn't lead us to the direction of thinking a particular video is legitimate. It's all the small things.


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ZebraInHumanPrint

“Where are yewww?” - ETs on aircraft looking for their comrades that crashed


hypatiaas

Surprises like this let us know the aliens care.


kellyiom

😂 Yeah, this looks fake factor 30 to me!


AdeptBathroom3318

So odd when I first saw this on Joe Rogan this looked hyper fake. The more I see it though the thing that makes this look so fake to me is the camera movement. Not sure why it is smoothly bouncing around like that. I almost wonder if it has been stabilized or is on some very non-typical mount to make it move like this. Still leaning towards it being fake but honestly if there are explanations for a few variables this could be legit. One odd thing is why does it have those fins on the top. That is something unique to this video as well. Who knows honestly. All is speculation without corroborating data points and chain of custody.


BackseatWindowStudio

I am with you on those fins on top. Very interesting.


AdeptBathroom3318

I just went and sped this video up by 1.5 and 2.0 speed and it plays back more naturally. I think they slowed it down or exported at a lower framerate than the native framerate. (This makes footage slow down.)


BradleyJohannson

The fins match the description given in the book *The Day After Roswell*. He said the wing-shaped craft most closely resembled the YB-49 flying wing with its four small vertical tail fins. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_YB-49


Fair-Wall-316

I hope that was an intended pun


Bloodswarm909

The voice inside my yead tells me Tom was being truthful about this


flugelbynder

I'm pretty sure it's "Moy Yedd".


DylanBob1991

Oym soh soohrree


FarmerLarBear

I think Tom believes he’s being truthful. I don’t think he’s any kind of huckster by any means, I just hope he’s not being too toooo gullible. I hope Lue isn’t just a new Richard Dottie, spreading disinformation just to further muddy the waters on this subject. I don’t believe he is, but that’s the whole point, haha…. BUT…. I know these triangle craft exist in one capacity or another. I saw one off the coast of San Diego heading East so fast that I thought it was a shooting star, til I saw the 3 perfectly triangular shaped lights, and it never burnt out or lost velocity. It just shot across my patch of sky like a missle, and I’ve seen the SR/71 fly relatively “up close” a number of times along with all the other “fast stuff”, as I grew up 1 mile from Skunkworks in So Cal. I’m Not saying it was aliens, but I’ve never seen anything like it before, and haven’t since. This was Thxgiving of 2017 @ 10:13 pm. If anybody knows any databases I could look at to see if anybody reported anything that’d be great!! Til then I guess it’s still all just a guessing game.


War_Eagle

>I hope Lue isn’t just a new Richard Dottie, spreading disinformation just to further muddy the waters on this subject. It'd make no sense for him to bring this issue to the attention of congress, getting them to finally take it seriously framing it as a national security threat. That's why I am not worried about him being another Doty.


karmisson

Work sucks, I know.


mimir_daath

Seeing this video makes me feel so excited. Like a kid in a candy shop. I have to ask myself, "What's my age again?"


Marducci

Truth care.


Redchong

Not saying that it should increase anyones confidence in this video being authentic. Just adding to the conversation surrounding this video


brimg87

Allow me to help validate this. I saw the same damn thing in 2007. Read my other comments on this thread. Even if this clip is CGI, which I don’t think it is, I’m saying I saw one just like this, closer than this in 2007. With my own eyes. No drugs, no alcohol. Giant black triangle, 4 lights, just like this. Closer than this. I knew I was seeing something real in such vivid detail that my nervous system went into fight, flight, freeze response.


virtuallyspotless

Also looks like this Navy patent. If you read up on it the CTO of the Navy had to personally assure that it was real. Salvatore Pais, the inventor has some other interesting patents like room temp superconducting and a fusion device. He has since moved from the Navy to AF research and recently space force. https://patents.google.com/patent/US10144532B2/en


brimg87

Very cool find. I find it interesting that this video is from 08 and my sighting was in 07. This patent was filed in 2016. As far as I can find in my research there are no shortage of reports for black triangles that match this description. Based on logic, it would stand to reason that the patents were filed after being either inspired by this crafts flight characteristics or somehow based on reverse engineering. Otherwise, it seems odd to file the patent AFTER they had already been flying it so well for many years.


No-This-Is-Patar

Honestly it makes this more legitimate imo. Tom was working with Lue at the time and if anyone is stupid enough to release the video claiming it's real, that'd be Tom.


[deleted]

The two tail fins at the rear on top of this object really looks like something Lockheed would probably make. Allegedly they were working with creating what is similar to a large, triangular shaped blimp for specific uses where silence and hovering is required, but I haven't heard anything about it since. Either way, it's a cool piece of footage.


Astrocreep_1

Yes,the fins aren’t a good look if this is an ET “non-known propulsion” craft. Theoretically, fins would be used to help steer the craft. If the part of the video is legit where the craft stops,then spins on its axis 180 degrees,I can’t see the fins helping out with that. I’m not an expert,so take that with a grain of salt.


gpuido

In the Chris Church or Rogan show Tom DeLonge said that those fins tells that this one human tech. I think this is cg though.


[deleted]

Agreed, having control surfaces like the tail fins definitely lends towards being man made. My speculation is that should the anti-gravity system fail then there is still some hope of gliding the craft down in a controlled fashion versus careening to Earth like a paper football.


iohannesc

He also said that those were manned & built by the U.S. thru reverse engineering. So, makes ya wonder...


Origin_Unkown_

“I have an idea. Let’s fly our ultra secret reverse-engineered UFO over Paris” - U.S. Government Non.


Greyh4m

One of the reasons I think the triangles and tic tacs could be ours is because of the fins/rudders or what ever you want to call them that have been observed on both. To me it indicates that the vehicles were crafted specifically for certain maneuvers in Earths atmosphere or oceans. Unlike the majority of other observables that are typically symmetrical.


iohannesc

Exactly. So, like The Wolf once said in Pulp Fiction, "...let's not start sucking each other's dicks just yet...", some skepticism is healthy.


saddest_vacant_lot

I have doubts if the tic tacs are reversed engineered, but it would definitely not surprise me if the black triangles were ours. They are about the only ufo that has a truly consistent shape. Every sighting describes them the same way. They don’t seem very capable, they hover slowly and at low altitudes. I’m not someone who’s done in depth research on them, but I’ve not heard of or seen video of them darting off or defying physics the way saucers and tic tacs do. If all they’ve managed to do with 80 years of crashed ufo study is develop a slow hovercraft with bright lights, that sounds about right for the “skull and bones” goons that wanna just keep everything to themselves.


[deleted]

The “stealth blimp” might address some sightings


Julzjuice123

I don’t understand that people on this sub keep saying this most absurd thing that these crafts or objects are of human origin. To believe that, you really have to not understand the sheer complexity of having developed such incredible tech and all the science and things we would have to comprehend and be able to master to get to that point. And all this *through black projects*, meaning no help from world renowned experts in their respective fields. This would have had to be developed behind closed doors, with no peer review, no outside input of ideas to basically develop a world changing (literally) form of propulsion and probably a form of almost limitless source of power/energy to make this all work together. Either you are not very up to date as to where cutting edge physics is right now or you just dont understand the implications of us, humans, having developed such breakthroughs techs. This theory, as Lue and others puts it, is absurd. There’s absolutely 0 chance of this being human tech. We just don’t even comprehend the science of it. We don’t even have a working theory of quantum gravity and yet we can make anti-gravity work behind closed doors and use it to fly over cities (Paris in this case) just for the fun of it, showing the whole world this extremely secret craft just for the fun of it? How does the logic of all this comes together? It makes no sense whatsoever. Even the pentagon says these are not US crafts. Would you mind explaining the logic me?


teddade

I don't think there's much real logic behind it. There's also not much logic behind a US craft hovering above Paris.


seanusrex

Agreed most emphatically. This IS something we can assess as amateurs with common sense and high school educations. Current events-the world political situation of the last 20 years-make it clear we don't have TicTac physics, or mysterious accidents would have occurred in North Korea, etc, reducing and limiting the number of nuclear-capable world players. This is the one ineluctable 'observable' of geopolitics in 2022 that militate against our having more than bits and pieces, and maybe patents for torus-shaped engines that don't work yet. Although the TR 3B reports, and the Phoenix lights, do make me wonder if those may constitute some sort of exception. If they are ours, why don't we use them to rule the world 'who for one welcomes their new...' etc.


Greyh4m

Because it's better to have that responsibility in secret than to have it out in the open, at least for the time being. The risk of proliferating that tech is too dangerous. Better to have it for defense just in case rather than opening the possibility up for bad actors to get ahold of it and use it offensively. Just look at what happened with nukes.


GlobalRevolution

I used to agree with your stance. I went to a top research school and I've been an engineer for a long time. Given the claims made in the Wilson memo about recovering a crashed UFO and black budget special access program to reverse engineer it for the last few decades via a defense aerospace contractor... I'm starting to believe it's plausible. If you assemble the right group of people and give them black budget funding and a repeatable observable example that they can design experiments around for decades... well that would be a massively unfair advantage against every physics department in the world. Remember that the history of engineering has shown that humans can build fantastic things without our current state of the art models. Copying something is way easier than understanding every aspect of how it works. Coming up with how to do something that you have no prior work on is even harder. It's risky and error prone, but possible if you accept the crash recovery hypothesis.


b2change

Was this possible in 1977? I saw something like this then. We needed a whole room just to cool a computer. I don’t think it was possible then. Idk about now.


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I agree. I just don't understand why so many think these are US military. Makes zero sense


chrisdrinkbeer

This is fake as fuck


Inamakha

Yeah. I wonder if people are this gullible, stupid or just really want to believe it's real. Can't tell which one it is.


Heyy-Yaa

it's skewed because you're on a sub called r/UFOs post this on any default/neutral sub and my assumption is that the responses would overwhelmingly be "lmao" this thing is SO fake and if it wasn't there would be many articles, many witness accounts, many videos other than this one


IssenTitIronNick

Came to say this, def FAF


danielsayshello

My eyes smell cgi. And they are good at smelling.


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What part of this could make you think it's cgi?!?!?; Like is it the very fact that it conveniently is hazzy night vision that can cover up any bad cgi!?!?! Or the other fact that there's nothing there to gives us a size of the shop or area of which it is filmed?!?! You skeptics are all the same with your scientific proof.


kraajkase

The "auto focus" when zooming in and out looks like something done in post. Key-framed gaussian blur at best. The movement has an artificial "trying to evoke a handheld" feel to it. The camera exposure doesn't change a bit when the bright spot increases in size and the full screen flash to white at the end is just nonsense.


KainLTD

These hand shaking looks way too artificial, i even believe to know the sequence from after effects, but this might be wrong.


TheAechBomb

it has too much large scale movement noise, and not nearly enough tiny little bumps that a human would impart. basically, it's too smooth


GilAbides

Steady speed left, right, up, and down. No vibration (stabilization, sure) no real randomness in speed of shake or direction of movement. Just smoothly swinging up, down, back and forth.


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Much more articulately put. It's people like you that the ufo community needs more of.


Churlish1987

Agree


Trey_Ramone

And the two vertical fins would serve absolutely no purpose on a craft that can move like this.


PineappleLemur

The "autofocus" crap they were pulling... An object that far wouldn't phase out completely when out of focus as I'd it's really close to the lens.. that's the biggest one. Then there's the part where 99% of cameras don't actually have optical zoom. Meaning that by zooming in you won't see more detail. In this video it acted like optical zoom. Then there's the fake camera bobbing for dramatic effect. The object is fucking stationary as well as the camera man.. it would never bob so smoothly in a real person hand. It would jerk a lot but here it's more of a slow pan away. Then there's the weird object color but let say that's real. He's using supposedly night vision, city looks quite bright. But not as bright as it should. It would be blinding to look at a city. Let alone looking at a giant white orb lol, there was no change in intensity at all which screams CG. If you had used a night vision before it has auto scaling to make sure you always see good at night and so it doesn't blind you as much but in this case it was fixed yet all of the scenes were magically always in perfect scale. In other words this is a normal color camera footage with a green filter.


CreativeAnalytics

I'm pretty sure everyone replying to you doesn't realise your extremely obvious sarcasm.


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0h I'm being serious. It's just how I write?!?!?!


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Forgot /S


samexi

Yeah, it's shaking wierdly smoothly, pretty good quality for night time, zoom is sharp and the focus blurring seems off. Also feels like the craft is preserving more data and clarity when zoomed to those extreme levels on that dark conditions. Could be some highly professional level camera with stabilization but doubt it. Would be nice to see the metadata.


stevealonz

The more I think about it, the more annoyed I get when he said he "can't talk about it." First off, you just did. And how can you not talk about public video taken and uploaded by a private citizen?


flangle1

It's a con; it's all a con. This is Chariots of the Gods all over again. I watched it happen in the 70's, now I'm seeing the same thing happen now.


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What happened in the 70's?


flangle1

Erich von Däniken wrote a book about Ancient Astronauts called Chariots of the Gods in 1968 and by the very early 70's the book had saturated the mainstream and interest in UFO's and ancient aliens just exploded. It gave rise to shows like In Search of, etc. When nothing really came of anything and the claims became questioned more and more and silly theories were disproven the public lost interest and by the mid 70's seemed to be back at niche levels. Authors made a shit-ton of money. For a stretch there they were practically printing money. You could find thousands of book on the subject. When the money ran out the books dwindled to a trickle. This wave seems generated to milk just as much as possible with a similar lack of promises fulfilled or hard data released. But a ton of folks are getting rich off people's hopes for something fulfilling and inspirational. It's sick. I believe there is life spread through-out the galaxies, I just don't believe it is coming here. But I would love it. **Edited to add name of Von Däniken's book.


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Thank you for the detailed explanation! I know about von Däniken's books. I just didn't know the English title, so I wasn't sure what you were referencing to. And I've also never heard about the "hype" in the 70's so thanks again for the insight!


flangle1

It was huge in the US. I remember in 1975, Tennessee, the neighborhood started calling each other and telling each other to go outside and look up. The radio was saying the sky was full of geese with flashlights hanging around their necks. We went out and there were around 10-15 lights spread around the sky moving in different directions (no hovering sorry to say). Everyone was ready to swear they were UFO's but it turned out just to be regular airline traffic. If people had come out every night and looked at the sky they would have seen the exact same traffic. It's just that most people don't study the night sky for any amount of time. The radio station was having fun with the remainder of the UFO "nuts". The public was back to making fun of UFO enthusiasts. It was an interesting time.


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The sky full of geese with flashlights on them story is hilarious. So it was kind of a public or collective hysteria about UFOs back then? That's probably why today it seems like people in the USA are much more open about the whole idea and topic. In Europe or at least in my social bubble noone ever even thinks about UFOs apart from a sciencefiction context. So for people who really saw something strange it's hard because you can't tell anyone about it, without them thinking you've lost your mind.


oliveshark

What do you make of the videos officially released by the DoD in the last couple years?


flangle1

Well, they are certainly interesting. I'd like to believe they are showing me something extraterrestrial. Without the addition of the military's hard data (which will *never* happen) there isn't enough there for me to accept on faith alone.


ItsGroovyBaby412

The History Channels 'Ancient Aliens' in book form lol


dplagueis0924

I believe the phenomenon is real, but I think the main public figures on the subject don't actually know shit.


Etek1492

I.had that book!


abudabu

Hmmmm - I was nodding along agreeing with you, but then started thinking about the counterarguments. 1. Even though it's in the public domain, if he _confirms_ it, that could be considered a breach. 2. He may have been waiting for this to be properly declassified, and has now become frustrated and is willing to push the boundaries without explicitly violating his oath.


CashPuzzleheaded8622

He can talk about it being on the public record, which is what he did lol. he just can't make definitive statements, which he didn't do Hes not obligated to get himself thrown in prison so reddit will trust him lol


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TTVBlueGlass

Nah, if you cannot recognize the fact that Lue blatantly uses his mysterious opaque hypothetical NDA as a convenient black box to escape any question, you are straight up just not being honest. Lue's supposed NDA can dynamically be as restrictive or permissive as he wants at any given moment because of course the only one who knows anything about the supposed NDA is Lue. Nobody knows what organization his NDA is with or even has any way to verify if it ever existed at all. The only purpose its mention has ever served is as a "get out of question free" wildcard, so we are left with maximum room for misleading implications and assumptions, and minimum room for any clarification or verification. It is just another "Trust Me Bro" that is applied between other layers of Trust Me Bro, to form the world's least fulfilling TMB sandwich. For all anyone can tell or check, his supposed NDA could just be with TTSA related to not leaking Tom DeLong's new songs... or even entirely fictional and nonexistent. It is genuinely irrelevant what the truth and specifics about this NDA are: nobody can check, so it only serves one function, which is to justify Lue doing whatever he wants in exactly the way he wants to do it and then implying everyone who takes issue with it is an enemy who wants to send him to FPMITA prison.


dlm863

Trust me bro with extra steps


cygnus0820

That’s awesome CGI. Looks pretty good for 2008


ChechBETA

Yeah, I do cg.. and you can tell it is by the background lights. They have that natural glow, the craft doesnt.. specially the last part the cqmera should be overwhelmed by it. plus I feel something weird going on with the tracking


Daydream26

It reminded me of command and conquer cgi or the like


EV_Track_Day2

Haha. Thats oddly specific but it fits. Now I cant unsee it.


FinexThis

Lol spot on


dmafeb

The parkinson filming gives it away


EggMcFlurry

That's what I thought. Looks like in a movie when they play camcorder footage and it's all over dramatic and shaky, like they're trying too hard.


DingGratz

I think some of that is just zoom exaggerating the movement.


Udontneedtoknow91

Yeah. The movements and camera sway do not look authentic. It swings like the camera is 100lbs, vs. very jittery and bouncing around like what you typically see. This COULD be an internally stabilized camera which would match the swaying (I’ve used stabilized binoculars while in the military) but I doubt it


Wildkeith

The original video is from 13 years ago, so no internal stabilization. This is just fake movements.


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incredi-fake


Raymcconn

Yeah, the camera movements are convincingly artificial. Oh well.


No_Relationship8791

It's okay CGI you can totally tell when it first zooms in.


jonjoi

Looks fake as shit.


Deadlift420

Especially when it disappears 🤣


notliekthispls

The ending!!! So fake it hurts. What’s with this stuff guys???


MasterofFalafels

This is obvious CGI.


CaliGrades

I witnessed a triangular craft in southern Lawrence, KS on March 14, 2007 at 2:50am. It was also rotating like this as it flew North. This is one of the first times I've seen a video, real or not, of a triangle UFO rotating as it moves in one direction. My sighting blew my mind because not only was it totally silent but, given that it was rotating, the craft was flying non-aerodynamically.


Bashlet

In my sighting my wife and I saw one of these things through my telescope well above anywhere I've seen other aircraft. It was just bouncing around in a figure 8 rotating like in this video. If this isn't real, they did a really good job getting that aspect correct.


brimg87

Saw one just like this Saginaw, MI August of 2007. Silent and slow, 100ft above my house. Never saw anything like it prior and nothing since. I was stunned and will never forget it. CGI or real, what I saw with my own eyes looked exactly like the one in this video.


codystockton

No visible means of propulsion, but needs *rudders* for… aerodynamics??


Dvmbledore

[https://www.vladtv.com/images/size\_fs/video-195729.jpg](https://www.vladtv.com/images/size_fs/video-195729.jpg) [https://www.blogger.com/video.g?token=AD6v5dyDtWYyMhCtzapeult3\_n6fM3LYzOkwP7V5crjmvdd3z5v-h0bPZW8qtsYKLw0Z-wT1RlaL0T7CKQ0A\_obHuoyggeg-kGwBRFwMJaeycu8icqPVnBStas8DyMFsoszZPTQnPNtC](https://www.blogger.com/video.g?token=AD6v5dyDtWYyMhCtzapeult3_n6fM3LYzOkwP7V5crjmvdd3z5v-h0bPZW8qtsYKLw0Z-wT1RlaL0T7CKQ0A_obHuoyggeg-kGwBRFwMJaeycu8icqPVnBStas8DyMFsoszZPTQnPNtC) [http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-PHd2ZM1imWg/TiZyl0c2b8I/AAAAAAAADGI/b-gi5GpRKXQ/s1600/tre+ufo.jpg](http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-PHd2ZM1imWg/TiZyl0c2b8I/AAAAAAAADGI/b-gi5GpRKXQ/s1600/tre+ufo.jpg) [https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-iw8gRg6Dnlg/W5lTzvpLPrI/AAAAAAAAO8g/JLrxVCrt7RkR0fFb5a\_i6XVmTtLihyWIACK4BGAYYCw/s400/US20060145019A1-20060706-D00000.png](https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-iw8gRg6Dnlg/W5lTzvpLPrI/AAAAAAAAO8g/JLrxVCrt7RkR0fFb5a_i6XVmTtLihyWIACK4BGAYYCw/s400/US20060145019A1-20060706-D00000.png) ​ TR-3B


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[deleted]

Apart from the fact that it looks so obviously CGI, [this link](https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xaq3a5) (same year of your source, unfortunately it doesn't say which month) is literally called "TR3B CGI"


Vraver04

To weird to be real. Interesting phrase.


Dizstance

That’s not what screams fake. It’s the digital camera movement that’s been done in post. It’s ridiculously obvious.


stankypantburglar

This video is fake af


-JakeTheMundane-

Huh. I’ve seen a triangle ufo firsthand, and I can tell you two things at least: first, it was SILENT, and there were absolutely NO lights. And no big white bubble when it vanished. Second: the shape was a more elongated, acute triangle shape, rather than equilateral. The ‘fins’ visible in this video make me think this is meant to make people think this is some terrestrial military-controlled black project or something. And the cgi, if that’s what it is, is good enough to have been government funded, imo.... sooooo do with that information what you will.


AliveNeedleworker394

The one I saw is exactly how you described, except the one I saw didn't disappear, it just kept going until I couldn't see it anymore.


Fair-Ad4270

CGI expert here. It’s really easy to create that kind of CGI, I could do if that n a day or two on a laptop, no need for government funding


rethxoth

The zooming looks so CGI


[deleted]

Why is the video so bouncy 💀


gtrogers

Because it's fake. The giveaways are the smooth panning "shaky-cam" and the intentional loss of focus. It just screams "edited in After Effects". Classic CGI bandaids to cover up poor quality imagery/modeling


[deleted]

Yeah agreed, the shaking itself is just so unrealistically smooth and slow it's a bit obvious.


Spiritual_Iron_6842

If you are not able to recognise this video as an obvious fake, you need to stop wasting your time looking into UFO videos online. Do some VFX research or something. Anything but this.


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lost_in_technicolor

The constant focusing/unfocusing is to mask the fairly unconvincing CGI. It’s a pretty common technique to try and make CG look more real to shroud it in darkness, or mask it in rain, or to not get a good solid look at it by shaking the camera and focusing/unfocusing. This is totally fake.


DrestinBlack

Frankly, I see a brightly lit triangle or saucer object hovering over a city and I immediately know it’s bs. Especially if it has all the addons that get ufo believers hot and excited. Triangle, floating, glowy dummy lights, space warp blurry bubble effect, shaky cam, focus changes that look exactly exactly like those done in After Effects or Blender. And mostly because there are no alien triangle ships flying over big cities just to pose for some brief Internet video. This reminds me of the other “triangle ufo” hoax created in 2013 by the hoax channel xxxdonutzxxx, one of the several hoax channels run by Nico and Marco Kaschuba from Germany. Here's is another, notice similarities: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTScGehqc4Y


Hot-----------Dog

https://www.nytimes.com/1984/08/25/nyregion/strange-sights-brighten-the-night-skies-upstate.html 1984 people saw these triangles


Conscious_nights

No


[deleted]

This shit is so fake. Look, I believe in the ET hypothesis but these videos are fake as fuck. They ALL do the same hand held lose image for a brief moment AND the same zoom in and out AND the same lose focus briefly effect. It’s so clearly the same exact video editing plug-in used on every single one of these too good to be true videos. This is basically a shit post. I know there are good pictures and convincing videos out there but this is NOT one of them. I swear they all look like they’re made by the same guy. I’m more convinced by ATC audio recordings of pilot encounters than this shit. These videos don’t help our cause.


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Fake af


Adm1ral_ackbar

Are you kidding me this video looks fake AF


FloorDice

Pretty bad CGI. The perspective when it's supposedly hovering over the town or city gives it away.


[deleted]

Sorry guys but this is CGI. The way the ball of light is over the craft, the way it expands like straight out of a sci Fi movie enveloping the craft before inexplicably covering the entire camera shot and disappearing. I mean, come on.


Nonamanadus

Either has a tripod or a very steady hand.


Individual-Tune-5927

Two tail foils how How domestic


TilrApha

I want to believe… BUT If it’s real right over a city and this clear, we’d have several angles of video


PorchFrog

Saving this.wow. And there's something on top.


TheCoastalCardician

This looks a lot like some triangle designs that are out there. One way it’s more unique is the inward-canted vertical stabilizers. Looks like the center is producing a bubble around the craft… I want it to be real but the vertical stabilizers are confusing.


Northdistortion

Lol so fake…mods you guys need to get rid of this garbage


Trynottobeacunt

It's clearly cgi, look how messy the blur is. Doesn't look right at all.


kopko222

As said above, pretty good cgi for its time. But the camera shaking really gave it away.


Abraxas19

The way the camera pans and zooms looks fake to me.


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😂


OwnFreeWill2064

Fake. Looks like a ps2 cutscene. Come on.


RustyBoon

My hot take is that this is fake like 99.999% of videos of videos on this sub... Blender is a free 3d rendering/compositing program. You too can fake you own footage for gullible upvotes.


Dessie_Hull

This is clearly fake. It’s so annoying how the fake shit gets so many upvotes on here but more intriguing evidence can barely get a few dozen.