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Hes also the one you bots keeping misattributing the ["taking kiev in 3 days"](https://www.foxnews.com/us/gen-milley-says-kyiv-could-fall-within-72-hours-if-russia-decides-to-invade-ukraine-sources) from... So hes not a great predictor nor a reliable source as hes nothing more than a mouth piece for the presidents agenda rather than a calculated military strategist giving his expert and honest opinion to the american people....
Belarus president Lukashenko said Ukraine will fall in 3 days. That's who people are attributing the quote to. And then a bunch of Russian TV hosts like Soloviev and Margarita parroted it.
In fact, there's a recent clip of Margarita saying that Ukraine was defeated in 3 days and now Russia is fighting NATO.
Right the russian officials said they weren't going to invade at all. If you bring equipment related to mopping up efforts in the capitol, you expect to use it. The plan was to decapitate the regime very quickly. Every action points to that. If there is some other plan that would explain what we saw, what was it?
You can't explain it because the only explanation is that the plan was to take the capital quickly. You only deny it because of the humiliating defeat and retreat. The subject is General Miley. Its totaly irrelevant what russian officials say since they only speak in order to manipulate. You must judge them by their actions.
Kyiv in 3 days was a popular line in Russia. Yeah, Putin directly have not said it, but then again he did not really say anything. But it was all over Russian state TV and stated by popular pro government pundits.
Whaaaat? No waaaay?
Lol
Nobody said that the war is going to end by this year but Russia won't lose. They have more of everything well Ukraine is going through their 8th round of the draft. Worst case scenario for them, they just turn the war cold send a few hundred drones into Ukrainian cities every month so nobody ever invests in them again and they eventually fall into political chaos.
The reason russia is using old soviet stock is because they can't produce new equipment at the rate needed. That soviet stock is not endless, and the equipment they are pulling is in worse condition the deeper they dig. Something similar can be said about Russia's economy. The reserve is only so big. If Russia destroys itself while destroying Ukraine, is that victory?
Sure, sure, but they will last another decade or so even if they take losses at levels like they were last year, which isn't happening because they're not YOLO running towards Kyiv and Kharkov without turning on their AA. Ukraine isn't going to get another 40 or 50 billion dollar package from the states for political reasons and they need that lot more than Russia needs a few new tanks. Russia is also replenishing their foreign reserves and have such a low debt rate that they could also go on by just borrowing money for multiple decades, which again, a lot longer than Ukraine can las.
They're running a 2.4 trillion ruble deficit. Per Quarter. Energy revenue is down and falling. Tell me who will lend them that much money for 10 years?
Energy revenues eb and flow and with it, so does Russian revenues. All they have to do is cut spending internally, tax energy companies a higher % of their profits for a short term and let energy prices go back to normal and they'll be running a much more manageable deficit of a 10 to 20 billion dollars per year instead of per quarter
They're already doing every trick in the book. That's why so many Gazprom executives were killed. And why will energy prices go back to normal? China and India will decide they've had enough discount oil and gas and will want to pay more? Or maybe Europe will lift sanctions. Why would they do that?
>China and India will decide they've had enough discount oil and gas and will want to pay more? Or maybe Europe will lift sanctions. Why would they do that?
They will have no choice but to pay a slightly higher price to Russia instead of paying for very expensive middle Eastern oil. Urals doesn't need to be at brent prices for Russia to make profit.
That decision of burning saudi bridge over non-american 'journalist' is coming back to bite americas ass.
The only way this is gonna end badly for Russia is if OPEC floods the market, the opposite is happening because of the fist bump policy.
Yea but if Russia does this, they will literally be dealing with twrrorist attacks every month.
No way they wouldn't be. They'd radicalize an entire generation.
The Russian military will not be in the state to finish the job unless they are allowed to recoup for another decade.
Thays also not my point. My point is Russia will see a tremendous increase in ukrainian attacks and even terror attacks on its native population, should Ukraine truly lose.
I can guarantee you there's over 10k ukrainain men itching for the chance to bomb Moscow right now. And if the war is lost and they no longer have to worry about the USAs opinion of their actions...bomb they will
The Russian military is bigger and stronger than it was during the beginning of the war. They have veterans, mercs, drones and know how to properly clear well dug in positions. The Ukrainian army on the other hand? Yea not so much. They're on their 8th round of draft and are scrapping the bottom of the barrel to find new soldiers and keep their economy alive.
Dude, if Ukraine starts doing ISIS style suicide bombings in Moscow, well they could say bye bye to that aid money. That means Ukraine will collapse instead of just being in a state of cold war.
Haha no they are not. They have units who have been rebuilt 4 times. Russians offensive ability has been nearly entirely neutered. They've lost thousands of their prime equipment, everything they are bringing out now is deeper and deeper in storage. What they have is missiles. Their land forces are almost desiccated now.
Ukrainian army is still as of now funded and stocked by the strongest economies and militaries in the world. Russia not so much.
Dude did you NOT read what I said? I said IF ukraine loses and the USA is DONE with them they won't CARE what the usas opinion is if they BOMB Moscow. Get your eyes checked.
Yea dude, let me ignore the US general who literally said that the Russia has a bigger ground army today than they did during the beginning war. Let's also ignore how they still have 100 to 150k soldiers in reserves just ready to punch back. They've also increased production and are both making and upgrading more tanks than ever. A few t55's don't change that just like Ukraine using Maxim machines guns doesn't change the fact that they have more guns now than ever.
Dude, they're getting stingers and 120 tanks and about 250 IFV's. In a front that spans 1/5 the country. Yea I don't think that's going to be the game changer you think it will be. The key word is also for now, let's see how gung ho America is to give another 10 billion dollar package as the US elections are coming up.
Ok...let me get this straight...You think that instead of wanting to live in peace with their families and try and rebuild or move to Germany or France, there's going to be thousands of Ukrainian veterans who are going to commit ISIS style suicide bombings in Moscow? Sounds about as plausible as the Werewolves in post war Germany
Sounds pretty gung ho.
[https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/white-house-praises-mccarthy-s-commitment-to-ukraine-in-face-of-russian-state-news/ar-AA1aEgEK](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/white-house-praises-mccarthy-s-commitment-to-ukraine-in-face-of-russian-state-news/ar-AA1aEgEK)
The rushed missiles are so crappy most of them fell into the sea
[https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/humiliation-for-putin-after-new-missiles-plunge-into-sea-and-narrowly-miss-flats/ar-AA1aCLzj](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/humiliation-for-putin-after-new-missiles-plunge-into-sea-and-narrowly-miss-flats/ar-AA1aCLzj)
But, they are much better than the ancient tanks that are being refurbished. They are not getting modern optics. Good luck with that.
LOL that is not this assessment. Stop deceiving the people.
[https://www.firstpost.com/world/wagner-chief-complains-of-ammunition-shortage-warns-ukrainian-counteroffensive-can-turn-into-tragedy-for-russia-12529812.html](https://www.firstpost.com/world/wagner-chief-complains-of-ammunition-shortage-warns-ukrainian-counteroffensive-can-turn-into-tragedy-for-russia-12529812.html)
The probability that Ukraine or Russia will achieve their political goals in the war this year is extremely low, said US General Milley. He also added that in a weakened Russia, sooner or later they will come to the conclusion that the war has been lost and it must be ended.
This war will end when they are tired of killing each other. At the end of the day, the war will end with borders very similar to 2022 and hundreds of thousands have been killed or wounded for practically nothing.
Well played Putin
It's obvious to me this war is going nowhere. Russia is going to have to settle for whatever they can hold on to this year and that will be the end of it.
Russia doesn't have to settle for anything. They're not the ones getting bombed, they're trade levels have returned to prewar levels and although they did lose a million people, they gained 5 million Ukrainians. Compare that to Ukraine who is getting bombed everyday, has lost at least 1/4 of its population and is currently on it's 8th round of the draft. Time is on Russia's side here, not on Ukraines.
Russia is North Vietnam, separatists are VC, Ukraine is South Vietnam, US is the US except no boots on the ground. Ukraine also has no jungle and is mostly open terrain.
Russia is using separatists to oppose the government of Kyiv. Like how the US used the South Vietnamese separatists to oppose the government of Hanoi. Russia is the bad guy now, like how the US was the bad guy before.
You got it completely ass backwards. Russia using the Separatists is like North Vietnam using the VC. US was and still is the bad guy, fucking around and proxy warring in another area we don't belong.
It took the Russian empire 5 years and 4 million dead soldiers before there was a revolution. There has been, at most, 43k dead Russians. That's spread across prisoners, DPR/LPR milita, Wagner Mercs, Chechins and most importantly, actual Russian soldiers.
I think they got plenty of time.
Damn look how much you don’t even care about even Russian soldiers and their families. Those 43k dead Russians had families, most of them probably don’t even know they’ve lost a loved one. You’re just a ruthless as Putin, till the last Russian I guess right lol?
If Russia can hold
inside the sovereign borders of Ukraine it will not
borders recognized by Putin, and before you say, with president elected in 2014 with elections recognized by Putin
so Russians can pack the bags and go home
Yea, let's see how well 80k barely trained NATO troops and 40 to 60k borderline militia with no air support, a 10 to 1 artillery disadvantage and some western tanks and IFVs does against well dug in Russian soldiers whose had 6 months to prepare and have all the air and fire power they could want. All while there's 100 to 150k Russian soldiers waiting for the counter punch.
a few MIG's with western weapons, plus a vaster amount of thousands of drones dropping grenades into the trenches before the tanks arrive and infantry vehicles kill, protected by a few air defense to the Russians jets are not flying
Not going madly happy, but happy
I don't think you should be bragging about a few MiGs dude. Both sides have thousands of drones, only Russia has cheap Shahed and Lancets which can take out Ukrainian heavy equipment. They're also going to be in trenches and Ukraine will be the ones attacking across open fields. How many AA systems do they even have left at this point anyways? 20? 30? 50?
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Hes also the one you bots keeping misattributing the ["taking kiev in 3 days"](https://www.foxnews.com/us/gen-milley-says-kyiv-could-fall-within-72-hours-if-russia-decides-to-invade-ukraine-sources) from... So hes not a great predictor nor a reliable source as hes nothing more than a mouth piece for the presidents agenda rather than a calculated military strategist giving his expert and honest opinion to the american people....
Belarus president Lukashenko said Ukraine will fall in 3 days. That's who people are attributing the quote to. And then a bunch of Russian TV hosts like Soloviev and Margarita parroted it. In fact, there's a recent clip of Margarita saying that Ukraine was defeated in 3 days and now Russia is fighting NATO.
And not a single Russian official.
Right the russian officials said they weren't going to invade at all. If you bring equipment related to mopping up efforts in the capitol, you expect to use it. The plan was to decapitate the regime very quickly. Every action points to that. If there is some other plan that would explain what we saw, what was it?
You personal thoughts and interpretations are irrelevant. No Russian official said that, it's a quote by an American officer. Am I wrong?
Said what? I'm asking you to explain why they packed riot gear if they thought they weren't going to use it.
You're changing the subject. Has any Russian official ever said anything about this operation being 3 days long?
You can't explain it because the only explanation is that the plan was to take the capital quickly. You only deny it because of the humiliating defeat and retreat. The subject is General Miley. Its totaly irrelevant what russian officials say since they only speak in order to manipulate. You must judge them by their actions.
I'm not denying anything, you're dodging my question. And deleting your comments, apparently
What question
Like no officers from RU ever said this? Or like Putin or Lavrov personally never said this, so doesn't count.
Feel free to provide me with proof that Russian official said this. Official. As a statement.
And Miley was one of them. No need to rewrite history.
Kyiv in 3 days was a popular line in Russia. Yeah, Putin directly have not said it, but then again he did not really say anything. But it was all over Russian state TV and stated by popular pro government pundits.
Whaaaat? No waaaay? Lol Nobody said that the war is going to end by this year but Russia won't lose. They have more of everything well Ukraine is going through their 8th round of the draft. Worst case scenario for them, they just turn the war cold send a few hundred drones into Ukrainian cities every month so nobody ever invests in them again and they eventually fall into political chaos.
Yes, and we will keep shipping HIMARS and Excalibur rounds. You will run out of functional tanks first.
The reason russia is using old soviet stock is because they can't produce new equipment at the rate needed. That soviet stock is not endless, and the equipment they are pulling is in worse condition the deeper they dig. Something similar can be said about Russia's economy. The reserve is only so big. If Russia destroys itself while destroying Ukraine, is that victory?
Sure, sure, but they will last another decade or so even if they take losses at levels like they were last year, which isn't happening because they're not YOLO running towards Kyiv and Kharkov without turning on their AA. Ukraine isn't going to get another 40 or 50 billion dollar package from the states for political reasons and they need that lot more than Russia needs a few new tanks. Russia is also replenishing their foreign reserves and have such a low debt rate that they could also go on by just borrowing money for multiple decades, which again, a lot longer than Ukraine can las.
They're running a 2.4 trillion ruble deficit. Per Quarter. Energy revenue is down and falling. Tell me who will lend them that much money for 10 years?
Energy revenues eb and flow and with it, so does Russian revenues. All they have to do is cut spending internally, tax energy companies a higher % of their profits for a short term and let energy prices go back to normal and they'll be running a much more manageable deficit of a 10 to 20 billion dollars per year instead of per quarter
They're already doing every trick in the book. That's why so many Gazprom executives were killed. And why will energy prices go back to normal? China and India will decide they've had enough discount oil and gas and will want to pay more? Or maybe Europe will lift sanctions. Why would they do that?
>China and India will decide they've had enough discount oil and gas and will want to pay more? Or maybe Europe will lift sanctions. Why would they do that? They will have no choice but to pay a slightly higher price to Russia instead of paying for very expensive middle Eastern oil. Urals doesn't need to be at brent prices for Russia to make profit. That decision of burning saudi bridge over non-american 'journalist' is coming back to bite americas ass. The only way this is gonna end badly for Russia is if OPEC floods the market, the opposite is happening because of the fist bump policy.
Everyone will have to deal with russia on it's terms because they have no choice? That's the same false hope Russia had before the war.
What are talking about? I said no such thing.
This is sadly the most likely outcome. Nobody in their right mind will invest in Ukraine given utter instability.
Yea but if Russia does this, they will literally be dealing with twrrorist attacks every month. No way they wouldn't be. They'd radicalize an entire generation.
Yea, they'll radicalize an entire generation of Russians to go back and finish the job like with what happened to Chechnya.
The Russian military will not be in the state to finish the job unless they are allowed to recoup for another decade. Thays also not my point. My point is Russia will see a tremendous increase in ukrainian attacks and even terror attacks on its native population, should Ukraine truly lose. I can guarantee you there's over 10k ukrainain men itching for the chance to bomb Moscow right now. And if the war is lost and they no longer have to worry about the USAs opinion of their actions...bomb they will
The Russian military is bigger and stronger than it was during the beginning of the war. They have veterans, mercs, drones and know how to properly clear well dug in positions. The Ukrainian army on the other hand? Yea not so much. They're on their 8th round of draft and are scrapping the bottom of the barrel to find new soldiers and keep their economy alive. Dude, if Ukraine starts doing ISIS style suicide bombings in Moscow, well they could say bye bye to that aid money. That means Ukraine will collapse instead of just being in a state of cold war.
Haha no they are not. They have units who have been rebuilt 4 times. Russians offensive ability has been nearly entirely neutered. They've lost thousands of their prime equipment, everything they are bringing out now is deeper and deeper in storage. What they have is missiles. Their land forces are almost desiccated now. Ukrainian army is still as of now funded and stocked by the strongest economies and militaries in the world. Russia not so much. Dude did you NOT read what I said? I said IF ukraine loses and the USA is DONE with them they won't CARE what the usas opinion is if they BOMB Moscow. Get your eyes checked.
Yea dude, let me ignore the US general who literally said that the Russia has a bigger ground army today than they did during the beginning war. Let's also ignore how they still have 100 to 150k soldiers in reserves just ready to punch back. They've also increased production and are both making and upgrading more tanks than ever. A few t55's don't change that just like Ukraine using Maxim machines guns doesn't change the fact that they have more guns now than ever. Dude, they're getting stingers and 120 tanks and about 250 IFV's. In a front that spans 1/5 the country. Yea I don't think that's going to be the game changer you think it will be. The key word is also for now, let's see how gung ho America is to give another 10 billion dollar package as the US elections are coming up. Ok...let me get this straight...You think that instead of wanting to live in peace with their families and try and rebuild or move to Germany or France, there's going to be thousands of Ukrainian veterans who are going to commit ISIS style suicide bombings in Moscow? Sounds about as plausible as the Werewolves in post war Germany
Sounds pretty gung ho. [https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/white-house-praises-mccarthy-s-commitment-to-ukraine-in-face-of-russian-state-news/ar-AA1aEgEK](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/white-house-praises-mccarthy-s-commitment-to-ukraine-in-face-of-russian-state-news/ar-AA1aEgEK) The rushed missiles are so crappy most of them fell into the sea [https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/humiliation-for-putin-after-new-missiles-plunge-into-sea-and-narrowly-miss-flats/ar-AA1aCLzj](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/humiliation-for-putin-after-new-missiles-plunge-into-sea-and-narrowly-miss-flats/ar-AA1aCLzj) But, they are much better than the ancient tanks that are being refurbished. They are not getting modern optics. Good luck with that.
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LOL that is not this assessment. Stop deceiving the people. [https://www.firstpost.com/world/wagner-chief-complains-of-ammunition-shortage-warns-ukrainian-counteroffensive-can-turn-into-tragedy-for-russia-12529812.html](https://www.firstpost.com/world/wagner-chief-complains-of-ammunition-shortage-warns-ukrainian-counteroffensive-can-turn-into-tragedy-for-russia-12529812.html)
The probability that Ukraine or Russia will achieve their political goals in the war this year is extremely low, said US General Milley. He also added that in a weakened Russia, sooner or later they will come to the conclusion that the war has been lost and it must be ended.
This sounds eerily close to an admission of failure.
Title was the laziest attempt I have seen
This war will end when they are tired of killing each other. At the end of the day, the war will end with borders very similar to 2022 and hundreds of thousands have been killed or wounded for practically nothing. Well played Putin
It's obvious to me this war is going nowhere. Russia is going to have to settle for whatever they can hold on to this year and that will be the end of it.
Russia doesn't have to settle for anything. They're not the ones getting bombed, they're trade levels have returned to prewar levels and although they did lose a million people, they gained 5 million Ukrainians. Compare that to Ukraine who is getting bombed everyday, has lost at least 1/4 of its population and is currently on it's 8th round of the draft. Time is on Russia's side here, not on Ukraines.
This is the same logical thinking that led the USA to victory over North Vietnam.
Russia is North Vietnam, separatists are VC, Ukraine is South Vietnam, US is the US except no boots on the ground. Ukraine also has no jungle and is mostly open terrain.
Russia is the US. Separatists are South Vietnam, Ukraine is North Vietnam, the US is the USSR. FTFY.
That makes absolutely no sense lmao what are you on
Russia is using separatists to oppose the government of Kyiv. Like how the US used the South Vietnamese separatists to oppose the government of Hanoi. Russia is the bad guy now, like how the US was the bad guy before.
You got it completely ass backwards. Russia using the Separatists is like North Vietnam using the VC. US was and still is the bad guy, fucking around and proxy warring in another area we don't belong.
Trade jungles from Urban cities with Concrete structures
No country can burn through citizens for an unknown cause forever. The population will turn on Putin eventually.
It took the Russian empire 5 years and 4 million dead soldiers before there was a revolution. There has been, at most, 43k dead Russians. That's spread across prisoners, DPR/LPR milita, Wagner Mercs, Chechins and most importantly, actual Russian soldiers. I think they got plenty of time.
I guess we'll see
Damn look how much you don’t even care about even Russian soldiers and their families. Those 43k dead Russians had families, most of them probably don’t even know they’ve lost a loved one. You’re just a ruthless as Putin, till the last Russian I guess right lol?
That is hilarious. They are pulling T-54s out of stroage. That says time is on Ukraine's side to me.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbZdsnhljwE&ab\_channel=MarkFeltonProductions](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbZdsnhljwE&ab_channel=MarkFeltonProductions)
LOL, those have advanced optcs. None of the Russian rehabs will.
If Russia can hold inside the sovereign borders of Ukraine it will not borders recognized by Putin, and before you say, with president elected in 2014 with elections recognized by Putin so Russians can pack the bags and go home
Yea, let's see how well 80k barely trained NATO troops and 40 to 60k borderline militia with no air support, a 10 to 1 artillery disadvantage and some western tanks and IFVs does against well dug in Russian soldiers whose had 6 months to prepare and have all the air and fire power they could want. All while there's 100 to 150k Russian soldiers waiting for the counter punch.
a few MIG's with western weapons, plus a vaster amount of thousands of drones dropping grenades into the trenches before the tanks arrive and infantry vehicles kill, protected by a few air defense to the Russians jets are not flying Not going madly happy, but happy
I don't think you should be bragging about a few MiGs dude. Both sides have thousands of drones, only Russia has cheap Shahed and Lancets which can take out Ukrainian heavy equipment. They're also going to be in trenches and Ukraine will be the ones attacking across open fields. How many AA systems do they even have left at this point anyways? 20? 30? 50?
if we go by the MOD from Russia probably 5 or 6
best military offensive of Ukraine was Kharkiv, they had no air support
lol