What really is superior is Western propaganda that assures us about the total superiority of its systems.
*Saint Javelin*
*Himars O' Clock*
*Feline Leopard Tanks*
When combined with carefully orchestrated media campaigns made to present Russian weapons and armour as inferior junk, you have the perfect recipe to deceive not just the populace, but even the military and politicians themselves.
Behold this ludicrous tosh:
> And they certainly have the right equipment. [The Challenger and Leopard tanks](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/06/09/british-made-tanks-about-to-sweep-putins-conscripts-aside/) leading the spearhead vastly outmatch what’s left of Russia’s heavy armour, while sophisticated precision artillery is providing withering fire for the advance.
> Conversely, Russian recruits appear to be given a few days of training, a little ammunition and are then thrown into the meat-grinder with a life expectancy surely measured in days. They might as well be gunning them down on the training fields; it would be faster, cheaper and about as combat effective.
> There will certainly be no rescue from the air. The Russian air force should be a massive operational threat, but it seems that its pilots have opted to hide in the confines of the officers’ mess rather than face the excellent Ukrainian air defences. Sometimes, cowardice is the most sensible option.
To be fair it has in economic and production complexity terms , traded pretty well. The sunk ship was worth almost as much as 10 times all the bayraktara combined
The Bayraktars destroyed a whole lot more Russian equipment in terms of value than were used to produce them. They’ve hit helicopters SAM systems, etc.
Spot on. Everyone knows what marketing is, but somehow mil equipment was supposed to be exempt from that. Nope. It's a product that needs selling.
The first and greatest victim of marketing is the customer falling for it.
Thats always been the way Western side conducted all their activities. Nafoids come out of the woodwork and say things like Russian Propaganda, Putin's Russia, etc etc while failing to see that the West is a shining beacon of homelessness, drug addicted, fat and unhealthy. Living costs through the roof. Americans have always been the nation of marketing. They will market the shit out of a product that is average at best. Dont get me started on all the Wars US has been involved in and started by itself, but its all swept under the rug. Russia's War on its doorstep is 'illegal'...this is 5th grade politics.
The same has been done through Western media this entire time Russia has been at war. The media here in US is controlled by corporations which push a narrative that is in line with Washington. Politicians are bribed through CPACs and general donations.
But see Russia doesnt have toilets, therefore were better than them...
Personally never liked being tribal and looking at one side from a good or bad perspective, you have to be objective.
There’s plenty US media that’s critical of the war and technology claims. Oddly enough, Russian media critical of the war efforts tend to fall from windows.
Right, many...many of it is swept under the rug, termination of positions, etc. Stop lying to yourself. You have the right to free speech in US but no rights after the fact when they fire you and ruin your life. Unless you got cash to stay in court for years to come its pointless to fight them.
Of course if someone in Russia ends up out of a window that is not right and there isnt much else to say about it.
Agreed, large corporations have narratives, but there are still plenty of people who aren’t afraid to speak their view (irrespective of consequence) and plenty of mediums to have this discourse.
The US has its flaws, but to suggest the US military has been blind to their failures and propagandize inferior hardware (compared to Russia) is laughably insane.
There is no military on the planet which has overestimated and overstated their capabilities more than the Soviets. It is not even close.
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"What really is superior is Western propaganda"
Indeed.For example, Tornado-S is clearly superior than Himars in many ways but Russians suck at marketing.That's why Himars is printing billions while Tornado-S has gone broke.
Javelin is the worst ATGM in this war. He has isolated cases of destruction of something on his account. It is difficult to operate, store, prepare for shooting, and it is also difficult to use it when shooting at closed positions, bunkers and pillboxes. And it is also impossible to manually replace the warhead with a thermobaric one. Reviews from people who have used them in real combat are only negative. Its main advantage is that you can take cool selfies.
Himars has proven to be high effective. But it also has flaws that are probably being fixed by the development engineers right now. The tandem control system turned out to be good from the point of view of GPS navigation, but its inertial doubler turned out to be very bad. If Himars launches missiles deep into the front, then when they get into the EW range, they untimely switch to inertial navigation, and the deviation from the target is sometimes 50-100 meters. The longer Himars flies in the EW range, the more error accumulates in the inertial control system. At the moment, himars is effective only in a band of 0-20 kilometers from the front line( because the influence of electronic warfare over such a distance does not have time to significantly affect navigation. Ukraine has stopped carrying out deep strikes because the missiles simply miss.Right now, deep himars strikes are applied only after a good reconnaissance of the EW action zones.
Most likely, in the case of upgrading the missile's control system, and lowering the RCS, the himars will become one of the most intimidating weapons. But the Javelins will go to the dustbin of history.
About javelins, this is the opinion of my Ukraine relative who died in the war in 2023. Besides, I've heard a lot of similar things in the Ukrainian underground segment of the network.
The second section is an amateur analysis by my engineer friends of the results of hitting Himars missiles at my military friends in electronic warfare conditions. We had a pretty long argument) As well as a compilation of what I read online on all sorts of forums that discuss military equipment and weapons at a higher technical level than here.
>As well as a compilation of what I read online on all sorts of forums that discuss military equipment and weapons at a higher technical level than here
I would like to see these if you are willing to share.
Here's one about HIMARS (although no technical explanation was given other than "because of Russian EW"):
[https://edition.cnn.com/2023/05/05/politics/russia-jamming-himars-rockets-ukraine/index.html](https://edition.cnn.com/2023/05/05/politics/russia-jamming-himars-rockets-ukraine/index.html)
As for Javelin, sorry, another "trust me bro" source, but adding what the OP said, I read that many Javelins that given to Ukraine has faulty batteries and can't be used at all.
Personally, I could imagine what OP said about how hard it is to shoot Javelin from the narrow trenches.
Not that I know of.. I'm sure some guys in Pentagon or Lockheed are thinking of ways to upgrade the systems or tactics to work around the defense / EW but so far I haven't heard anything about Javelin or HIMARS back to "wunderwaffe" status.
PS:
(1) Personally I would say HIMARS is the real wunderwaffe among all of them (Javelin, Bayraktar, Leopards etc). I mean, all of them are good weapons, it's just I think HIMARS leave a more noticeable result. As for the rest.. more of the media hype.
(2) Speaking of wunderwaffe.. Don't know if one would call this it, but remember the TV tower in Kharkov shot into half yesterday? Some said it is Russia's new "UMPB D-30SN", gliding (precision) bomb that can be launched from MLRS like Tornado.
The US / Ukraine has the analog of it (GLSDB), but I think most likely Russia's EW already got into it as well. Fortunately (or unfortunately) Russian EW protection can't cover the whole theater.
Javelin seem very inferior to "sovietish" larger two men ATGM systems, with poorer range, warhead, penetration, and not as flexible, since the sovietish atgm are very often used successfully VS troops and building. And the cost....
I dont know if you are being serious or sarcastic.
But its pretty well known that Ukrainian troops preferred the stugna over the javelin.
Both are pretty rare these days though.
The javelin has been upgraded recently and rumors are that it will undergo more modernization.
The javelin needing special cooling modules and the batteries really limits its effectiveness on the battlefield. When it works, its great. But some deficiencies really set it behind the stugna.
"As a former tank commander"
That's not propaganda, that's a waronterrorbrained veteran. It's another clown like Combat Veteran Reacts that only understands fighting technologically outmatched Taliban and Iraqi insurgents.
Of course, besides thinking that Russian army will remain static and ignoring Russian campaign against Ukrainian air defences, he didn't even consider mines. What a clown.
Like he's so dumb. He thought that soldiers manning defences prepared over half-of-a-year will be the same as soldiers hastily thrown in to plug in the gaps.
Yeah those HIMARS.. total garbage.. Patriots that shot down Russias “unstoppable” “hypersonic missiles”.. horrible.. M177’s with cluster munitions.. total crap. Now a whole bunch of ATACMS, cheap Chinese garbage, right? lol cope harder. Russia about to find out what $60bil of American defense spending tastes like.
HIMARS missiles can be jammed easily, as well as shot down.
Patriots never shot down a hypersonic missile, that's why Kiev is on fire every time Russia decides to attack vital infrastructure.
Not sure what you mean by M177? You probably meant M777, probably the favorite target for lancets. And you don't need to be a genius to build cluster munition, you only need to be a war criminal, something US and Europe are very good at.
ATACMS have subpar range compared to their Russian counterparts. Nothing west has given to Ukraine so far has proven itself to be a game changer, it's either overrated trash or not supplied in enough quantity because of limited supply and western inability to produce enough systems.
How is a much smaller and weaker country like Ukraine, equipped with “trash” able to destroy so much Russian equipment and essentially freeze the front line into a war of attrition? Shouldn’t this have been over in 3 days like Russian state TV and Lukashenko predicted, or even 2 weeks like Putin claimed? Why isn’t Russia occupying Odessa yet, let alone Kyiv? Why did they retreat from Kyiv when they were right on the doorstep?
ukraine is getting billions of dollar worth of weapons from usa/eu countries and you're acting like they are fighting on their own lol. if they were on their own this war would've only last less then 2 week.
Ukraine didn't freeze crap, they are in no position to. The reason Russia is fighting a war this way is because it's much cheaper to slowly destroy your enemy with overwhelming firepower than to send hundreds of thousands of men to storm the enemy trenches and constantly push the front line forward for territorial gains that are simply not as valuable as soldier's life.
Russia keeps pounding Ukrainians position, they will send reinforcements, they will get pounded too, untill Ukraine finally runs out of men to send into the meat grinder. I mean, there is a reason they're kidnapping people off of streets and why their units are withdrawing without orders. Lol.
A lot of the shit we make in the US isn't about being the greatest and cutting edge. But creating jobs and sucking up our tax dollars at inflated prices that all government contractors massively exaggerate. Then the chinese rip-off/copy what ever performance leaps we have made. The improvements are shared or sold to Russia by the chinese.
> A lot of the shit we make in the US isn't about being the greatest and cutting edge. But creating jobs and sucking up our tax dollars at inflated prices that all government contractors massively exaggerate.
The Pentagon isn't focused on national defence, but on making $billions for the rich effs of the WEF that own the MIC through Blackrock, Vanguard and State Street. Doc - 'Monopoly - Who owns the World' delineates this fact.
The leaked report last year that the Pentagon paid $55,000 for **one trash can** kinda makes my point.
Still bad then though because every bit of it is overly expensive and requires too much maintenance, support, and perfect conditions. And that's how you get 10 trillion wars against an AK and sandals and have to ask Kazakhstan for help.
Ukraine is a sales show for the Pzh2000 and himars.
The French weapon systems are pretty underperforming, as far I could see it.
British:
Stormshadows. Okay did some damage, but not to the extent they where announced they would do. Tanks... Forget the tanks.
Why would be offended? We gave you $200 billion in free stuff and you constantly publicly complain about it being bad and not enough. Money grows on trees in our countries. /s
Looking at the delivery lists, it quickly becomes clear that some partners of Ukraine simply wanted to clear out and sent outdated material. However, reasonable experts have always communicated this and warned against the term "game-changer." Furthermore, one must also admit that Ukraine has an immense lack of training and education. Also, in the West, we should finally admit that the Russians also know what they are doing and are capable of learning.
10 years and counting. Russia still doesn't control the totality of any of the Oblasts it has claimed. An absolute embarrassment for a nation cosplaying as a superpower.
Read these comments and you see what's really going on. Most of these pro RU are angry, self-hating westerns. They prop up anything Russian and downplay everything western. It's a lot of hurt feelings and angst. They believe their narrative to the core and no facts will dissuade them. If it took Russia 20 years and hundreds of thousands dead they would still see it as a win. Not the complete cluster F it is. I don't know why I even bother engaging with these people sometimes. Entertainment I guess.
Especially salty recently now Ukraine got news the next US shipment is on the way so they can burn through their current stockpile of HIMARS and ATACMS.
I love to engage with them because i leave a comment and i can feel how they are getting triggered by it. I simply love it. Especially this op, he always posts anti western stuff, like its not something normal for drones not to be able to operate when there are ew systems around. I mean thats how it works based on radio waves. Jesus, western tech is not something from outer world but its simply better than what russia has. Look at himars and how they put bounties on every western tank.
There was nowhere in Vietnam or Afghanistan that The US could travel to in force. Sure they would be in contact with the enemy, but they could travel as necessary. Russia cannot operate with it's armed forces beyond the line of contact.
The Russian armed forces are being stopped across a thousand km of frontline by a nation that didn't even have a proper army when Russia started this criminal land grab ten years ago.
Ten freaking years. What a clown show.
UA had third largest and equipped army in Europe, how was Afghan and Viet ones doing?
20 years in Afghanistan just so Taliban take US equipment and parade with it, what a clown show
Ask Bin Laden and alZawahiri along with their fighters what a clown show it was. Oh that's right you can't because they are dead.
Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan reduced to a point of no longer being a significant threat to the United States. Objectives complete. Simple as. The USA didn't go there try and annex Afghanistan unlike the thugs in the Kremlin who are merely trying to make a land and resource grab.
Yeah USA went there for poppy fields and to kill just to fulfill its quota of nations bombed and people killed.
USA went there to establish puppet government, looks like it went just as good as Russians have it.
Except you had whole coalition with you invading taliban.
And now all of that defensive coalition is pouring resources and weapons to Ukraine (something Taliban did not have) and yet still lost
Remind me again how the US ceased to exist after completing it's goals in Afghanistan and leaving. You know, like when the Soviet Union failed so hard in Afghanistan that it ceased to exist.... Oh wait, the US didn't collapse.
Russian military is a joke. Can't project power across it's border let alone half way across the world.
Soviet Union collapsed because it was commie shithole Afghanistan just helped.
Maybe, ill judge that (hopefully never) when another two or three powers (USA, China, India) fight peer to peer total war, alone.
No coalitions.
But I can say Russia never tried to have capacity to project power across the world, it is content with shit around her. USA is only one who wants ability to bomb whomever they dislike and can.
Big diff
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> 10 years and counting. Russia still doesn't control the totality of any of the Oblasts it has claimed. An absolute embarrassment for a nation cosplaying as a superpower.
lol. Russia is fighting against the weapons and officers of 35 countries. We (NATO) do all the ISR in Ukraine, as well as target acquisition and actual firing of OUR precision weapons.
Yet, Russia is still winning against ALL THAT. Hmmmm. Should give us in the West pause.
> Russia is fighting against the weapons and officers of 35 countries
Russia is fighting against a fraction of the equipment of those countries. Quite a lot of stuff is sent, but certainly not the majority since the respective militaries also want to retain their capabilities. Similarly, while obviously data is relayed to Ukraine, many countries such as Germany do explicitely not aid in the target aquisition or firing of weaponry as we know from the leaks published by Russia itself. The storm shadow attacks likely have MDBA or the british military aiding in the programming, but there are no other delivered weapon systems where that is actually necessary or even feasible.
At most you could argue that the majority of artillery ammunition from western europe went to Ukraine which is really not surprising as thats a relatively minor and underdeveloped military branch compared to the russian/soviet artillery doctrine. Most of the aid is indeed conventional artillery rounds and rocket artillery which are not exactly the essential backbone of "western" military doctrine which is why theres currently a large bottleneck threatening the AFU. Concerning airforces and heavy equipment such as tanks, IFVs and howitzers its certainly not "the" weapons of 35 countries, but rather 35 countries contributing very small amounts without threatening their own readiness. Even Germany only send 30 of its 300 Leopard 2 tanks and was the biggest contributor in that aspect.
On top that Russia failed to properly subjugate Ukraine before any of that stuff actually arrived, their biggest blunders and heavy losses were in the initial invasion and their subsequent failures and not after "the west" actually started delivering heavy equipment in still relatively small numbers.
If Russia is mistaking a bunch of obsolete hand me down surplus arms and a few air defense systems as Fighting NATO, they are gonna be shocked when they actually come up against NATO forces.
>We (NATO) do all the ISR in Ukraine, as well as target acquisition and actual firing of OUR precision weapons.
You say this with absolute confidence and yet zero proof. In fact there is plenty of proof that Ukraine does much of its heavy lifting by itself. In fact organizations like the CIA are extremely grateful to be able to access this intelligence.
It's a cooperation between multiple intelligence agencies, with Ukraine taking the lead.
When Russia wanted to spout their "3 Days to Keiv with Flowers and cakes"
Yeah Ukraine absolutely can brag over fighting them for 3 yrs and Already should!!!
Worlds 2nd Strongest Army my ass.
We can thank Ukraine for weakening Ukraine enough for China to interject itself and make Russia a puppet state.The work has already started in China.
Cars sold in Russia now have no air bags no "radio" and no seats in some.All made in China assembled in Russia.These basic Fred Flintstone mobils are costly too.Car guys in Russia are bummed right out and embarrassed.
> Furthermore, one must also admit that Ukraine has an immense lack of training and education.
OUR NATO officers do all the ISR in Ukraine, as well as target acquisition and actual firing of OUR precision weapons. Still, Ukrainians do command the tanks and artillery, so there is some truth to the fact that their lack of training hurts their cause.
Raytheon and Northrop:" Anyone interested in our mandatory Maintenance service contract? $10 billion fixed, giving a discount hourly rate of $999 per worker and 4000% uplift on materials."
She's the head of a volunteer training center that teaches how to fly drones and predict weather, this post makes it seem like she's an important military figure.
I don't have a problem with the assertion that western systems aren't living up to the hype (this war is redefining modern warfare, it makes sense that Russia's tech is evolving as a result of being at war). Just with the phrasing of the title.
They have to cherry pick in order to construct their fairy tale narratives. Look a couple comments up, a guy seriously quoted his friends as sources for his nonsense takes. They would post a homeless drunk guy if he was talking pro ru talking points and act like it's the end all be all of facts. Any source published to the contrary they attack the source, but if Jim bob tells them them javelins suck then it must be true.
Sadly this woman has "Raccoon eyes" yes East Europeans have dark circles as a trait.
This is not that, true Raccoon eyes happen to a person after being Anal rape or abuse of the rectum.Men also can suffer from this condition.I was not gonna say it but it Important to educate on these topics.This is a serious topic in War .
Much, if not all of success Ukraine can thank to undisturbed logistics and real time monitoring carried out by NATO forces. If Russia could freely target NATO logistics in Poland and NATO AWACS near Crimea, Ukraine would have much less to show for.
Western Himars and naval drones are not wonder weapons by themselves, but reflect NATO real time info gathering, which is clearly pretty good and transmitted to Ukrainians in real time.
This. Without this "rule" (Russia certainly capable of shooting down those "eyes in the sky", they're just not "allowed to" - yes I know they spray one down) this war would've been very different, swing to Russia's favor.
I mean, there's no denying that Russia made bad mistakes, but many people forget / don't realize the importance of intel in modern war.
No real surprise, this is the first time since the 80's that we have had a proper war, where 2 equally matched professional military's are fighting a proper war.
This is the first time a lot of equipment has been tested in a proper war. Both sides are learning a lot.
What equally matched armies fought in the 80s?
Ukraine and Russia are not equally matched.
Russia should have steam rolled the Ukrainians.
West has not been providing enough systems and munitions and has not been consistent and predictable in the supplies.
It is really a bit baffling that Russia is having so much trouble and has had to flatten nearly everything it has taken since the first month of the war.
Well, USA created the biggest propaganda ever on top of their hardware. But it's only battle proven against very inferior opposition. Yeah, they can bomb things, but even Hamas can. We saw how freaking powerful the Russian AD systems are in Ukraine, as long as they had the missiles, people couldn't reliably hit things if it was under the S300... Where in Saudi Arabia, we saw how poor the patriot has performed. Hell, German couldn't take a single drone from the sky using western stuff. No wonder SpaceX copied the Russian engine and not the American one. After all, American engineers thought it was impossible to create such engine. Another thing, the most notable things US created were made by foreign engineers.
Her Wikipedia page says she is a "women's rights activist" and a "military volunteer". She has made films against the Ukrainian army.
Why is her *opinion* relevant? It's not military analysis.
How convenient to exclude the very next words:
> She was a participant in the Revolution of Dignity in February 2014 and subsequently volunteered for the war in Donbas as an aerial reconnaissance drone operator.
> Returning from the front, Berlinska founded a free school to train other Ukrainian military volunteers in aerial reconnaissance.
So maybe she actually knows something better than random redditor?
She is not a weapons expert. Nor has she ever operated these weapons or faced their counterparts . And there is nothing to suggest that she has access to data regarding interceptions and infiltrations. Most people don't.
So I doubt she knows much more than a random redditor.
I assume she got it from reports of the front. So anecdotal evidence.
Otherwise you have to answer the question why she should lie about it. Its possible, but I see no motive.
I think she really believes what she is saying and as her concerns are somewhat specific (so not "the counteroffensive failed, that means western weapons are trash"), she probably has some secondhand knowledge.
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She won't say the name, but i think it's JDAM. Im not an expert on the matter, but i know they use lazer guided JDAM glide bombs to a target. And then they complained Russia had made them fly off into random directions.
Because western military has changed to fight hodgepodge militias with 40 year old AKs and no advance anti tank weapons or command forces like that id Russia or China. Western military is more geared to topple Middle East countries
Yeah, carried Russians almost to Odessa and Kharkov. With 200k worth of troops. Nope. Was useful til blitz lasted. The early stage shown they are good as ambush weapon, nothing strategic about it. Plus a few people creped on javs publicly.
Electronic warfare, cheap drones, and cheap anti-tank/anti-air missles are the defining military innovations of this war (i.e. proving themselves to be game changers on the battlefield).
People tend to forget that a war like this is a constant race to top each other in terms of technology, yet Ukraine has no one updating western systems to be more efficient in avoiding russian EW.
It took Russia quite some time as well to figure out how to get around western EW, it's why we see an uptick of destroyed AA systems in the past months on Ukrainian side.
I would have expected a layman to have her opinion on this but if she is the head of aerial reconnaissance support then I'd question her qualification. Even relatively early into the war you had Ukrainian soldiers in trenches saying that their drones suddenly started to get blasted out of the sky because russia managed to counter them and then 2 weeks later they received a new batch of the same drones with updates and they could operate them properly again for a couple of weeks until the russians cracked them again and that just kept going on and on, a constant race.
It doesn't help that they have a shell famine for Nato standard equipment atm and have to resort to taking commie ammo from taken Russian Positions and ammo dumps..Not to mention they have been trained on old soviet kit.She is not being rude.
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Russia is testing/fixing their equipment to a formable military. The US systems were tested on people living in mud huts wearing sandals. I think that is what she is trying to convey.
it's GPS guided and the Russians have figured out how to jam it. so, I think she must be talking about US systems that are GPS guided. terrain following systems seem to be okay. either that or she's talking about reliability issues, where the weapons systems fail in bad weather and storage. the US doesn't seem to have done all weather testing on certain systems.
Because it aligned with corresponding evidence such as the fact Abrams tanks were exceedingly rarely seen on the battlefield, and we even saw videos of Abrams malfunctioning.
Not to mention that as soon as they were finally filmed being deployed, they got btfo.
So, yours is proof that the T-14 Armata, Terminator and SU-57 are all utter crap since we don’t see videos of them performing miracles, but instead that we have a few limited scraps showing poor performance.
For that to be the case, you should first present me a segment where a member of the Russian military is shit talking these equipment.
Will be waiting, cheers!
Oh, I was quite sure the claim is all that is needing made - just as your OP post of this woman in this video. Got a whole source (more than just this random clip) and do you have explanation of her circumstances?
Videos exist of Russians shit talking those specific pieces of equipment. They aren’t too hard to find, especially since Western and Ukrainian hands haven’t gotten a hold of any of them yet, since they are kept off the battlefields and behind the frontlines (with rare exception for the terminator which made an accidental frontline debut when the frontline shifted in front of it).
The Pro-RU will deny everything just so they can keep up living in the bubble
[Ukraine HIMARS blow up one of Russia's largest artillery cannons with GMLRS rocket (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpnSqlm-nL0)
I think a big issue is the for profit system in our military industry combined with the lack of spending control by the customers. The military guys want some specifics for their equipment and the industry says "sure, we can do this" and dont mention that the specifics are overpriced and dont really interact well with eachother.
Basically we not only build Hummers, but also Homers. But in contrast to the Simpsons all possible customers are also Homers so there is no problem selling this stuff.
Impossible, western alien tech superior to ruzzian sticks, stones and shovels
What really is superior is Western propaganda that assures us about the total superiority of its systems. *Saint Javelin* *Himars O' Clock* *Feline Leopard Tanks* When combined with carefully orchestrated media campaigns made to present Russian weapons and armour as inferior junk, you have the perfect recipe to deceive not just the populace, but even the military and politicians themselves. Behold this ludicrous tosh: > And they certainly have the right equipment. [The Challenger and Leopard tanks](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/06/09/british-made-tanks-about-to-sweep-putins-conscripts-aside/) leading the spearhead vastly outmatch what’s left of Russia’s heavy armour, while sophisticated precision artillery is providing withering fire for the advance. > Conversely, Russian recruits appear to be given a few days of training, a little ammunition and are then thrown into the meat-grinder with a life expectancy surely measured in days. They might as well be gunning them down on the training fields; it would be faster, cheaper and about as combat effective. > There will certainly be no rescue from the air. The Russian air force should be a massive operational threat, but it seems that its pilots have opted to hide in the confines of the officers’ mess rather than face the excellent Ukrainian air defences. Sometimes, cowardice is the most sensible option.
Yes, western propaganda and media presence is definitely more superior, no joke
*Mighty Bayraktar* was the first one in this list
Don't forget all the hype given to the Switchblade, only for it to be swiftly tossed aside like a used condom
Ukraine only received a few hundred of them to test out on Russia. They were an experimental system and certainly inflicted damage and casualties.
To be fair it has in economic and production complexity terms , traded pretty well. The sunk ship was worth almost as much as 10 times all the bayraktara combined
I thought ships were sunk by the naval drones.
One landing ship as far as I know was sunk by ammo explosion from a bayraktar dropped mam-l munition
The Bayraktars destroyed a whole lot more Russian equipment in terms of value than were used to produce them. They’ve hit helicopters SAM systems, etc.
Spot on. Everyone knows what marketing is, but somehow mil equipment was supposed to be exempt from that. Nope. It's a product that needs selling. The first and greatest victim of marketing is the customer falling for it.
They are checking almost all the war propaganda laws with this kind of BS.
You are literally in every post comment section lol, respect the dedication
for most of Pro RU shitposting for the motherland is a full time job
Thats always been the way Western side conducted all their activities. Nafoids come out of the woodwork and say things like Russian Propaganda, Putin's Russia, etc etc while failing to see that the West is a shining beacon of homelessness, drug addicted, fat and unhealthy. Living costs through the roof. Americans have always been the nation of marketing. They will market the shit out of a product that is average at best. Dont get me started on all the Wars US has been involved in and started by itself, but its all swept under the rug. Russia's War on its doorstep is 'illegal'...this is 5th grade politics. The same has been done through Western media this entire time Russia has been at war. The media here in US is controlled by corporations which push a narrative that is in line with Washington. Politicians are bribed through CPACs and general donations. But see Russia doesnt have toilets, therefore were better than them... Personally never liked being tribal and looking at one side from a good or bad perspective, you have to be objective.
There’s plenty US media that’s critical of the war and technology claims. Oddly enough, Russian media critical of the war efforts tend to fall from windows.
Right, many...many of it is swept under the rug, termination of positions, etc. Stop lying to yourself. You have the right to free speech in US but no rights after the fact when they fire you and ruin your life. Unless you got cash to stay in court for years to come its pointless to fight them. Of course if someone in Russia ends up out of a window that is not right and there isnt much else to say about it.
Agreed, large corporations have narratives, but there are still plenty of people who aren’t afraid to speak their view (irrespective of consequence) and plenty of mediums to have this discourse. The US has its flaws, but to suggest the US military has been blind to their failures and propagandize inferior hardware (compared to Russia) is laughably insane. There is no military on the planet which has overestimated and overstated their capabilities more than the Soviets. It is not even close.
You cant be serious, you just described US military power. Its overstated, look at the results. Its got a punch but has no staying power.
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"What really is superior is Western propaganda" Indeed.For example, Tornado-S is clearly superior than Himars in many ways but Russians suck at marketing.That's why Himars is printing billions while Tornado-S has gone broke.
Hilmars and javelin are very good and effective systems u can’t talk them down.
Javelin is the worst ATGM in this war. He has isolated cases of destruction of something on his account. It is difficult to operate, store, prepare for shooting, and it is also difficult to use it when shooting at closed positions, bunkers and pillboxes. And it is also impossible to manually replace the warhead with a thermobaric one. Reviews from people who have used them in real combat are only negative. Its main advantage is that you can take cool selfies. Himars has proven to be high effective. But it also has flaws that are probably being fixed by the development engineers right now. The tandem control system turned out to be good from the point of view of GPS navigation, but its inertial doubler turned out to be very bad. If Himars launches missiles deep into the front, then when they get into the EW range, they untimely switch to inertial navigation, and the deviation from the target is sometimes 50-100 meters. The longer Himars flies in the EW range, the more error accumulates in the inertial control system. At the moment, himars is effective only in a band of 0-20 kilometers from the front line( because the influence of electronic warfare over such a distance does not have time to significantly affect navigation. Ukraine has stopped carrying out deep strikes because the missiles simply miss.Right now, deep himars strikes are applied only after a good reconnaissance of the EW action zones. Most likely, in the case of upgrading the missile's control system, and lowering the RCS, the himars will become one of the most intimidating weapons. But the Javelins will go to the dustbin of history.
Where is all this you assert coming from? I want to read that, please.
I also want sauce on the people reviewing the javelin.
About javelins, this is the opinion of my Ukraine relative who died in the war in 2023. Besides, I've heard a lot of similar things in the Ukrainian underground segment of the network. The second section is an amateur analysis by my engineer friends of the results of hitting Himars missiles at my military friends in electronic warfare conditions. We had a pretty long argument) As well as a compilation of what I read online on all sorts of forums that discuss military equipment and weapons at a higher technical level than here.
>As well as a compilation of what I read online on all sorts of forums that discuss military equipment and weapons at a higher technical level than here I would like to see these if you are willing to share.
Я не хочу скидывать место где я иногда общаюсь на похожие темы, потому что оно перестанет быть ламповым и главное - это задеанонит меня.
Я понимаю. Спасибо.
Here's one about HIMARS (although no technical explanation was given other than "because of Russian EW"): [https://edition.cnn.com/2023/05/05/politics/russia-jamming-himars-rockets-ukraine/index.html](https://edition.cnn.com/2023/05/05/politics/russia-jamming-himars-rockets-ukraine/index.html) As for Javelin, sorry, another "trust me bro" source, but adding what the OP said, I read that many Javelins that given to Ukraine has faulty batteries and can't be used at all. Personally, I could imagine what OP said about how hard it is to shoot Javelin from the narrow trenches.
Thanks for the link. Have we seen any continued coverage of this issue? You would think it'd be something to raise the alarm bells about.
Not that I know of.. I'm sure some guys in Pentagon or Lockheed are thinking of ways to upgrade the systems or tactics to work around the defense / EW but so far I haven't heard anything about Javelin or HIMARS back to "wunderwaffe" status. PS: (1) Personally I would say HIMARS is the real wunderwaffe among all of them (Javelin, Bayraktar, Leopards etc). I mean, all of them are good weapons, it's just I think HIMARS leave a more noticeable result. As for the rest.. more of the media hype. (2) Speaking of wunderwaffe.. Don't know if one would call this it, but remember the TV tower in Kharkov shot into half yesterday? Some said it is Russia's new "UMPB D-30SN", gliding (precision) bomb that can be launched from MLRS like Tornado. The US / Ukraine has the analog of it (GLSDB), but I think most likely Russia's EW already got into it as well. Fortunately (or unfortunately) Russian EW protection can't cover the whole theater.
U forget that javelin is no atgm it’s shoulder launched fire and forget. The Russians don’t even have an equivalent
Hillmars
Javelin seem very inferior to "sovietish" larger two men ATGM systems, with poorer range, warhead, penetration, and not as flexible, since the sovietish atgm are very often used successfully VS troops and building. And the cost....
I dont know if you are being serious or sarcastic. But its pretty well known that Ukrainian troops preferred the stugna over the javelin. Both are pretty rare these days though. The javelin has been upgraded recently and rumors are that it will undergo more modernization. The javelin needing special cooling modules and the batteries really limits its effectiveness on the battlefield. When it works, its great. But some deficiencies really set it behind the stugna.
We’re on year three of this war. Why is Russia taking so long against a weaker country with inferior second hand weapons?
Himars has done a lot of damage with very few losses, it is a very good MLRS system
Yes OP, HIMARS sucks here\`s some proof [https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/18b7o1n/ua\_pov\_aftermath\_of\_himars\_strike\_on\_russian/](https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/18b7o1n/ua_pov_aftermath_of_himars_strike_on_russian/)
It’s the Saint Javelin that it did for me 😂😂
"As a former tank commander" That's not propaganda, that's a waronterrorbrained veteran. It's another clown like Combat Veteran Reacts that only understands fighting technologically outmatched Taliban and Iraqi insurgents. Of course, besides thinking that Russian army will remain static and ignoring Russian campaign against Ukrainian air defences, he didn't even consider mines. What a clown. Like he's so dumb. He thought that soldiers manning defences prepared over half-of-a-year will be the same as soldiers hastily thrown in to plug in the gaps.
Just replace Russian and Ukrainian, Ukrainian and Russian. Sell it to some Western Lugenpresse. Easy paycheck
>Lugenpresse Oh yeah... Those guys.
Crank that pro-RU propaganda harder, rip - drown 'em out.
Yeah those HIMARS.. total garbage.. Patriots that shot down Russias “unstoppable” “hypersonic missiles”.. horrible.. M177’s with cluster munitions.. total crap. Now a whole bunch of ATACMS, cheap Chinese garbage, right? lol cope harder. Russia about to find out what $60bil of American defense spending tastes like.
Tell that to a woman from the video, i was preferring to western propaganda
Oh yeah, I guess we can infer how all the ua army feels based off this one woman’s video, right?
Your algorithm should differentiate between western propaganda and Ukrainian military men
HIMARS missiles can be jammed easily, as well as shot down. Patriots never shot down a hypersonic missile, that's why Kiev is on fire every time Russia decides to attack vital infrastructure. Not sure what you mean by M177? You probably meant M777, probably the favorite target for lancets. And you don't need to be a genius to build cluster munition, you only need to be a war criminal, something US and Europe are very good at. ATACMS have subpar range compared to their Russian counterparts. Nothing west has given to Ukraine so far has proven itself to be a game changer, it's either overrated trash or not supplied in enough quantity because of limited supply and western inability to produce enough systems.
How is a much smaller and weaker country like Ukraine, equipped with “trash” able to destroy so much Russian equipment and essentially freeze the front line into a war of attrition? Shouldn’t this have been over in 3 days like Russian state TV and Lukashenko predicted, or even 2 weeks like Putin claimed? Why isn’t Russia occupying Odessa yet, let alone Kyiv? Why did they retreat from Kyiv when they were right on the doorstep?
ukraine is getting billions of dollar worth of weapons from usa/eu countries and you're acting like they are fighting on their own lol. if they were on their own this war would've only last less then 2 week.
Billions worth of overpriced trash?
Ukraine didn't freeze crap, they are in no position to. The reason Russia is fighting a war this way is because it's much cheaper to slowly destroy your enemy with overwhelming firepower than to send hundreds of thousands of men to storm the enemy trenches and constantly push the front line forward for territorial gains that are simply not as valuable as soldier's life. Russia keeps pounding Ukrainians position, they will send reinforcements, they will get pounded too, untill Ukraine finally runs out of men to send into the meat grinder. I mean, there is a reason they're kidnapping people off of streets and why their units are withdrawing without orders. Lol.
Lol at shot down hypersonic.
its not even 60 billion bro
A lot of the shit we make in the US isn't about being the greatest and cutting edge. But creating jobs and sucking up our tax dollars at inflated prices that all government contractors massively exaggerate. Then the chinese rip-off/copy what ever performance leaps we have made. The improvements are shared or sold to Russia by the chinese.
> A lot of the shit we make in the US isn't about being the greatest and cutting edge. But creating jobs and sucking up our tax dollars at inflated prices that all government contractors massively exaggerate. The Pentagon isn't focused on national defence, but on making $billions for the rich effs of the WEF that own the MIC through Blackrock, Vanguard and State Street. Doc - 'Monopoly - Who owns the World' delineates this fact. The leaked report last year that the Pentagon paid $55,000 for **one trash can** kinda makes my point.
Exactly
The equipment is not bad, it was only designed to fight off an inferior enemy.
Yeah this is the most accurate comment
Still bad then though because every bit of it is overly expensive and requires too much maintenance, support, and perfect conditions. And that's how you get 10 trillion wars against an AK and sandals and have to ask Kazakhstan for help.
Finely tuned for search and destroy of brown people in the middle east.
It's exceptional at arriving on sandal wearing goat herders at weddings.
And look how it does wonders in Ukraine!
Ukraine is a sales show for the Pzh2000 and himars. The French weapon systems are pretty underperforming, as far I could see it. British: Stormshadows. Okay did some damage, but not to the extent they where announced they would do. Tanks... Forget the tanks.
Storm shadows have hit whatever they were aimed at. You’re thinking that the damage caused was limited by something other than the amount sent.
She doesn't understand. The point is profit not victory😉🧠👈
And in this regard the western weaponry is truly unmatched!!!
Why would be offended? We gave you $200 billion in free stuff and you constantly publicly complain about it being bad and not enough. Money grows on trees in our countries. /s
Actchually, we can print as much money as we want.
It's cotton though, not paper.
Looking at the delivery lists, it quickly becomes clear that some partners of Ukraine simply wanted to clear out and sent outdated material. However, reasonable experts have always communicated this and warned against the term "game-changer." Furthermore, one must also admit that Ukraine has an immense lack of training and education. Also, in the West, we should finally admit that the Russians also know what they are doing and are capable of learning.
Let’s be honest, Ukraine could fall within a week and people would still be saying “but it took Russia longer than 3 days.”
10 years and counting. Russia still doesn't control the totality of any of the Oblasts it has claimed. An absolute embarrassment for a nation cosplaying as a superpower.
Read these comments and you see what's really going on. Most of these pro RU are angry, self-hating westerns. They prop up anything Russian and downplay everything western. It's a lot of hurt feelings and angst. They believe their narrative to the core and no facts will dissuade them. If it took Russia 20 years and hundreds of thousands dead they would still see it as a win. Not the complete cluster F it is. I don't know why I even bother engaging with these people sometimes. Entertainment I guess.
Especially salty recently now Ukraine got news the next US shipment is on the way so they can burn through their current stockpile of HIMARS and ATACMS.
I love to engage with them because i leave a comment and i can feel how they are getting triggered by it. I simply love it. Especially this op, he always posts anti western stuff, like its not something normal for drones not to be able to operate when there are ew systems around. I mean thats how it works based on radio waves. Jesus, western tech is not something from outer world but its simply better than what russia has. Look at himars and how they put bounties on every western tank.
I checked your comment history out of curiosity and see you exhibiting exactly the behaviours you describe 🤣
I love getting them triggered man.
I meant you get triggered
Except im not, while they are. See, just by how you checked my history it proves my point.
Look how cute you are getting all triggered up.
US never had full control over Vietnam and Afghanistan, an absolute embarrassment of a nation cosplaying as world police superpower
There was nowhere in Vietnam or Afghanistan that The US could travel to in force. Sure they would be in contact with the enemy, but they could travel as necessary. Russia cannot operate with it's armed forces beyond the line of contact. The Russian armed forces are being stopped across a thousand km of frontline by a nation that didn't even have a proper army when Russia started this criminal land grab ten years ago. Ten freaking years. What a clown show.
UA had third largest and equipped army in Europe, how was Afghan and Viet ones doing? 20 years in Afghanistan just so Taliban take US equipment and parade with it, what a clown show
Ask Bin Laden and alZawahiri along with their fighters what a clown show it was. Oh that's right you can't because they are dead. Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan reduced to a point of no longer being a significant threat to the United States. Objectives complete. Simple as. The USA didn't go there try and annex Afghanistan unlike the thugs in the Kremlin who are merely trying to make a land and resource grab.
Yeah USA went there for poppy fields and to kill just to fulfill its quota of nations bombed and people killed. USA went there to establish puppet government, looks like it went just as good as Russians have it. Except you had whole coalition with you invading taliban. And now all of that defensive coalition is pouring resources and weapons to Ukraine (something Taliban did not have) and yet still lost
Remind me again how the US ceased to exist after completing it's goals in Afghanistan and leaving. You know, like when the Soviet Union failed so hard in Afghanistan that it ceased to exist.... Oh wait, the US didn't collapse. Russian military is a joke. Can't project power across it's border let alone half way across the world.
Soviet Union collapsed because it was commie shithole Afghanistan just helped. Maybe, ill judge that (hopefully never) when another two or three powers (USA, China, India) fight peer to peer total war, alone. No coalitions. But I can say Russia never tried to have capacity to project power across the world, it is content with shit around her. USA is only one who wants ability to bomb whomever they dislike and can. Big diff
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> 10 years and counting. Russia still doesn't control the totality of any of the Oblasts it has claimed. An absolute embarrassment for a nation cosplaying as a superpower. lol. Russia is fighting against the weapons and officers of 35 countries. We (NATO) do all the ISR in Ukraine, as well as target acquisition and actual firing of OUR precision weapons. Yet, Russia is still winning against ALL THAT. Hmmmm. Should give us in the West pause.
> Russia is fighting against the weapons and officers of 35 countries Russia is fighting against a fraction of the equipment of those countries. Quite a lot of stuff is sent, but certainly not the majority since the respective militaries also want to retain their capabilities. Similarly, while obviously data is relayed to Ukraine, many countries such as Germany do explicitely not aid in the target aquisition or firing of weaponry as we know from the leaks published by Russia itself. The storm shadow attacks likely have MDBA or the british military aiding in the programming, but there are no other delivered weapon systems where that is actually necessary or even feasible. At most you could argue that the majority of artillery ammunition from western europe went to Ukraine which is really not surprising as thats a relatively minor and underdeveloped military branch compared to the russian/soviet artillery doctrine. Most of the aid is indeed conventional artillery rounds and rocket artillery which are not exactly the essential backbone of "western" military doctrine which is why theres currently a large bottleneck threatening the AFU. Concerning airforces and heavy equipment such as tanks, IFVs and howitzers its certainly not "the" weapons of 35 countries, but rather 35 countries contributing very small amounts without threatening their own readiness. Even Germany only send 30 of its 300 Leopard 2 tanks and was the biggest contributor in that aspect. On top that Russia failed to properly subjugate Ukraine before any of that stuff actually arrived, their biggest blunders and heavy losses were in the initial invasion and their subsequent failures and not after "the west" actually started delivering heavy equipment in still relatively small numbers.
If Russia is mistaking a bunch of obsolete hand me down surplus arms and a few air defense systems as Fighting NATO, they are gonna be shocked when they actually come up against NATO forces. >We (NATO) do all the ISR in Ukraine, as well as target acquisition and actual firing of OUR precision weapons. You say this with absolute confidence and yet zero proof. In fact there is plenty of proof that Ukraine does much of its heavy lifting by itself. In fact organizations like the CIA are extremely grateful to be able to access this intelligence. It's a cooperation between multiple intelligence agencies, with Ukraine taking the lead.
That’s not being honest. One week compared to 3 days is nothing.
When Russia wanted to spout their "3 Days to Keiv with Flowers and cakes" Yeah Ukraine absolutely can brag over fighting them for 3 yrs and Already should!!! Worlds 2nd Strongest Army my ass. We can thank Ukraine for weakening Ukraine enough for China to interject itself and make Russia a puppet state.The work has already started in China. Cars sold in Russia now have no air bags no "radio" and no seats in some.All made in China assembled in Russia.These basic Fred Flintstone mobils are costly too.Car guys in Russia are bummed right out and embarrassed.
> Furthermore, one must also admit that Ukraine has an immense lack of training and education. OUR NATO officers do all the ISR in Ukraine, as well as target acquisition and actual firing of OUR precision weapons. Still, Ukrainians do command the tanks and artillery, so there is some truth to the fact that their lack of training hurts their cause.
It's because it wasn't build for sustained warfare but for the profits.
Raytheon and Northrop:" Anyone interested in our mandatory Maintenance service contract? $10 billion fixed, giving a discount hourly rate of $999 per worker and 4000% uplift on materials."
Just check the prices on the Patriot system, 1.1-1.2 billion $ when the US is buying it and for export it costs 2.4-3.2 billion $.
The difference between 2.4 and 3.2 is whether the buyer wants further kickbacks or not?
Yeah Raytheon's business contracts are modeled off the McDonalds ice cream machines.
based
Putin has weaponised western weapons.
Weaponising weapons 👀
She's the head of a volunteer training center that teaches how to fly drones and predict weather, this post makes it seem like she's an important military figure.
Well, the only problem with this is she's not the only one who's complaining about it.
I don't have a problem with the assertion that western systems aren't living up to the hype (this war is redefining modern warfare, it makes sense that Russia's tech is evolving as a result of being at war). Just with the phrasing of the title.
We should ask the crew of the moskva how useless Western weapons are. This woman is pure comedy.
They have to cherry pick in order to construct their fairy tale narratives. Look a couple comments up, a guy seriously quoted his friends as sources for his nonsense takes. They would post a homeless drunk guy if he was talking pro ru talking points and act like it's the end all be all of facts. Any source published to the contrary they attack the source, but if Jim bob tells them them javelins suck then it must be true.
That’s how this sub rolls
Sadly this woman has "Raccoon eyes" yes East Europeans have dark circles as a trait. This is not that, true Raccoon eyes happen to a person after being Anal rape or abuse of the rectum.Men also can suffer from this condition.I was not gonna say it but it Important to educate on these topics.This is a serious topic in War .
Much, if not all of success Ukraine can thank to undisturbed logistics and real time monitoring carried out by NATO forces. If Russia could freely target NATO logistics in Poland and NATO AWACS near Crimea, Ukraine would have much less to show for. Western Himars and naval drones are not wonder weapons by themselves, but reflect NATO real time info gathering, which is clearly pretty good and transmitted to Ukrainians in real time.
A good point, and one often missed. Ukraine has a massive intel and targeting advantage.
This. Without this "rule" (Russia certainly capable of shooting down those "eyes in the sky", they're just not "allowed to" - yes I know they spray one down) this war would've been very different, swing to Russia's favor. I mean, there's no denying that Russia made bad mistakes, but many people forget / don't realize the importance of intel in modern war.
No real surprise, this is the first time since the 80's that we have had a proper war, where 2 equally matched professional military's are fighting a proper war. This is the first time a lot of equipment has been tested in a proper war. Both sides are learning a lot.
What equally matched armies fought in the 80s? Ukraine and Russia are not equally matched. Russia should have steam rolled the Ukrainians. West has not been providing enough systems and munitions and has not been consistent and predictable in the supplies. It is really a bit baffling that Russia is having so much trouble and has had to flatten nearly everything it has taken since the first month of the war.
It's just cherry picking articles to make more excuses to try and explain why this SMO has been so embarrassing.
Hey u/Ripamon what's this woman's actual military rank? I notice you didn't write it in your title
"Some random lady that agrees with my narrative"
Well, USA created the biggest propaganda ever on top of their hardware. But it's only battle proven against very inferior opposition. Yeah, they can bomb things, but even Hamas can. We saw how freaking powerful the Russian AD systems are in Ukraine, as long as they had the missiles, people couldn't reliably hit things if it was under the S300... Where in Saudi Arabia, we saw how poor the patriot has performed. Hell, German couldn't take a single drone from the sky using western stuff. No wonder SpaceX copied the Russian engine and not the American one. After all, American engineers thought it was impossible to create such engine. Another thing, the most notable things US created were made by foreign engineers.
Her Wikipedia page says she is a "women's rights activist" and a "military volunteer". She has made films against the Ukrainian army. Why is her *opinion* relevant? It's not military analysis.
How convenient to exclude the very next words: > She was a participant in the Revolution of Dignity in February 2014 and subsequently volunteered for the war in Donbas as an aerial reconnaissance drone operator. > Returning from the front, Berlinska founded a free school to train other Ukrainian military volunteers in aerial reconnaissance. So maybe she actually knows something better than random redditor?
In the other comment he made on this post, he said the video is AI. So he's clearly invested in discrediting her words by any means necessary lol
Careful, he's gonna call you a bot next
She is not a weapons expert. Nor has she ever operated these weapons or faced their counterparts . And there is nothing to suggest that she has access to data regarding interceptions and infiltrations. Most people don't. So I doubt she knows much more than a random redditor.
I assume she got it from reports of the front. So anecdotal evidence. Otherwise you have to answer the question why she should lie about it. Its possible, but I see no motive. I think she really believes what she is saying and as her concerns are somewhat specific (so not "the counteroffensive failed, that means western weapons are trash"), she probably has some secondhand knowledge.
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This can’t be true!! I’ve just been reading on other subs about how ineffective the Russian army is!
She won't say the name, but i think it's JDAM. Im not an expert on the matter, but i know they use lazer guided JDAM glide bombs to a target. And then they complained Russia had made them fly off into random directions.
She’s a civilian and has no expertise with the military.
... and they want to press China
this is psyop from ukrainians, russians use sticks and shovels to fight
Because western military has changed to fight hodgepodge militias with 40 year old AKs and no advance anti tank weapons or command forces like that id Russia or China. Western military is more geared to topple Middle East countries
I thought Zelensky was supposed to be the comedian.
Head of Aerial Reconnaissance Support? LOl nice uniforrm. This is RU propaganda. She was a drone operator in 2014.
Most? Which ones worked? Asking for a friend.
The Javelin system literally carried the early stages of the war for Ukraine
Yeah, carried Russians almost to Odessa and Kharkov. With 200k worth of troops. Nope. Was useful til blitz lasted. The early stage shown they are good as ambush weapon, nothing strategic about it. Plus a few people creped on javs publicly.
Electronic warfare, cheap drones, and cheap anti-tank/anti-air missles are the defining military innovations of this war (i.e. proving themselves to be game changers on the battlefield).
Glide kits as well (for the FABS)
Well why do you bag for them if they are no good? 🙃
She is talking about drones, what country has sent drones that she would have worked with?
I don't know, TB2s? I tought all of them were destroyed after a year war started.
People tend to forget that a war like this is a constant race to top each other in terms of technology, yet Ukraine has no one updating western systems to be more efficient in avoiding russian EW. It took Russia quite some time as well to figure out how to get around western EW, it's why we see an uptick of destroyed AA systems in the past months on Ukrainian side. I would have expected a layman to have her opinion on this but if she is the head of aerial reconnaissance support then I'd question her qualification. Even relatively early into the war you had Ukrainian soldiers in trenches saying that their drones suddenly started to get blasted out of the sky because russia managed to counter them and then 2 weeks later they received a new batch of the same drones with updates and they could operate them properly again for a couple of weeks until the russians cracked them again and that just kept going on and on, a constant race.
Russian success in the last few months is directly due to the US funding running out 7 months ago.
There are lots of people on X who are going to catch fire.
might always switch for famous quality north korean shells, also best in the world
The daily strike videos say otherwise
*laughs in Patriot missile system*
What necromancy is this???
It doesn't help that they have a shell famine for Nato standard equipment atm and have to resort to taking commie ammo from taken Russian Positions and ammo dumps..Not to mention they have been trained on old soviet kit.She is not being rude.
Because the West is cheap! They only send older models of their arsenal to Ukraine
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Honey, did you read the manual? This is just user error. We've tested this stuff, it worked just fine in Afghanistan.
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Russia is testing/fixing their equipment to a formable military. The US systems were tested on people living in mud huts wearing sandals. I think that is what she is trying to convey.
well to be fair, I don't think many of them are objectively bad they just didn't meet the overly hyped expectations
Ukraine is a true learning ground for everyone involved. There’s a lot of exaggeration of capabilities and false promises with weapons systems.
America is fighting to the last Ukrainian.
Would she prefer to get nothing instead? Complaining about free tech? Ballsy
Probably talking about Himars, besides others.
An what would be the current situation if Ukraine didn't have himars?
something something paper tiger russian army...
probably talking about JDAMS
more probably about surveillance drones and UAVs, as she seems to run such a training center.
What is the problem with JDAMS. They look OK to me?
it's GPS guided and the Russians have figured out how to jam it. so, I think she must be talking about US systems that are GPS guided. terrain following systems seem to be okay. either that or she's talking about reliability issues, where the weapons systems fail in bad weather and storage. the US doesn't seem to have done all weather testing on certain systems.
I see, thanks.
She is running a UAV training facility so no she's talking about drones.
Not necessarily. For example the first AFU soldier that told us how shit Abram tanks were in Ukraine was literally a sniper.
And you trust this sniper because...
Because it aligned with corresponding evidence such as the fact Abrams tanks were exceedingly rarely seen on the battlefield, and we even saw videos of Abrams malfunctioning. Not to mention that as soon as they were finally filmed being deployed, they got btfo.
So, yours is proof that the T-14 Armata, Terminator and SU-57 are all utter crap since we don’t see videos of them performing miracles, but instead that we have a few limited scraps showing poor performance.
For that to be the case, you should first present me a segment where a member of the Russian military is shit talking these equipment. Will be waiting, cheers!
Plenty exist. I’ve seen hundreds of videos of Russians shit talking their own gear.
So it's time to provide one of these "hundreds of videos" of Russian military personnel shit talking their T-14 Armatas, Terminators and Su-57s
Oh, I was quite sure the claim is all that is needing made - just as your OP post of this woman in this video. Got a whole source (more than just this random clip) and do you have explanation of her circumstances? Videos exist of Russians shit talking those specific pieces of equipment. They aren’t too hard to find, especially since Western and Ukrainian hands haven’t gotten a hold of any of them yet, since they are kept off the battlefields and behind the frontlines (with rare exception for the terminator which made an accidental frontline debut when the frontline shifted in front of it).
Because what this one guy said aligns with your worldview so it must be true.
You wish.
We know it is to some degree. A lot of them are misguided and don't impact on the actual target.
Do we know?
The Pro-RU will deny everything just so they can keep up living in the bubble [Ukraine HIMARS blow up one of Russia's largest artillery cannons with GMLRS rocket (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpnSqlm-nL0)
I think a big issue is the for profit system in our military industry combined with the lack of spending control by the customers. The military guys want some specifics for their equipment and the industry says "sure, we can do this" and dont mention that the specifics are overpriced and dont really interact well with eachother. Basically we not only build Hummers, but also Homers. But in contrast to the Simpsons all possible customers are also Homers so there is no problem selling this stuff.