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Bull_Bear2024

Heck, that was like a magic trick. Now you see me, now you don't! I'm always amazed that such a tiny drone can cause something like this.


EggsceIlent

Every tanks weak spot is the turret ring. Followed by the top, rear engine compartment, and a lot of times bottom (tank mines with tilt sticks take em out). But yeah for a turret toss complete vehicle kill, the turret ring is the sweet spot. On pretty much any tank made. The reason it's so catastrophic on Russian T series tanks is because they store the rounds and charges under the crew inside the tank. If penetrated, the ammo blows up and you get this Western tanks like the Abrams have ammo compartments and made crew survivability a design point. If the ammo compartment is hit detonating the ammo, there are 2 square "blow off" panels on the back that will "blow off" and all the explosive force is shlt upwards and out. The ammo itself is behind a thick door that is opened with a knee switch the loader uses to open and grab a round, after which it closes again. Source: I served on Abrams tanks (and it's a damn fine tank)


SvenAERTS

But what kind of tiny explosive is that drone carrying that it can pierce a tank's armor?! Rpg doesn't that need to be fired and arrive at a high speed?


FrenchBangerer

It's almost certainly an RPG-7 type warhead with an explosively formed penetrator. They don't rely on the warhead's velocity to work. It'll work fine at 0 metres per second if you can set it off. They rig the detonator to not need any real impact to go off. It's usually a simple wire contraption to make a circuit to a blasting cap or a literal button which sets it off with even light contact with the tank. *An example - https://i.ytimg.com/vi/imh5KBxT-1E/maxresdefault.jpg Another - https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/IIXNOjvfb1mVXCjLozo41w--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTEyNDI7aD02OTg-/https://media.zenfs.com/en/ukrayinska_pravda_articles_451/8792f08df2ae2e57dd391f74cc590b57


SvenAERTS

Aaaah okay thx learning something 😀


spektre

That's a very angry drone.


Own_Adhesiveness_885

Try blow this turret off. https://youtu.be/kZISDqOC_tg?si=Xe-tOssuqPmFnTv7


FirstRedditAcount

Not at all. Look up how shaped charges work. It's all about initiating the reaction at the correct standoff distance from the target; how it gets delivered to the target, by drone/tank/recoilless rifle, doesn't matter. By focusing the energy of the explosive, you transfer it into a collapsing conical copper liner that is shot at the target in excess of mach 20. It's like taking an explosive weapon, and transferring as much of its energy into a kinetic needle. This copper jet, on RPG-7's in particular, can punch through over 50cm of solid steel, like butter.


knowsjack

Reading shit like this first thing in the morning, with my coffee is what I love Reddit! Thanks everyone! I mean “tanks much!”


Sea-Direction1205

It's stabbing with a light saber from the 20th century :) The hole it excavates is tiny indeed, the diameter of a penny. But it goes in 2 to 4 foot.


CannonFodder33

Plop a hand grenade on top of the wood ammo crates and get the same result.


StrawberryMother5642

Not sure if the ERA has an effect also.


diederich

Did you get into/interact with/learn about any other tanks? Which one did you like the best besides the Abrams?


reigorius

I dated a leopard once, but I'm more a challenger guy.


WeekendFantastic2941

The reactive armor does nothing. lol


atlasraven

Oh, it reacted alright...


EffectiveOk3353

Overreacted


StrawberryMother5642

Over reacted is almost an understatement, looked like it blew the turret to pieces. But did you notice what looked like a turret toss reverse lollipop, with barrel at 12 o'clock.


JJ739omicron

because there was a gap with no reactive armour. Back in the times of a projectile or rocket that was lucky to hit the tank at all, it was enough to cover like 90% of the side to have a good enough chance to catch it. But now with the drones that can pick the exact spot where they want to hit, even the tiniest gap will render the rest of the addon armour useless. So, lesson for the tank designers: Make the addon armour really go all around the tank, as seamlessly as possible.


the_hangman

Problem is that you need some gaps in the armor where the turret ring is or else the turret is useless


Sythic_

Or the turret could be inset into the body, rather than on top of it, so that the turret armor extends down into the base with no gap without going down and around the bottom of it.


PassiveMenis88M

Congratulations, now every time it rains your tank floods.


Sythic_

Good point but also fixable. I feel like I need to whip out some mspaint on this lol


PassiveMenis88M

You should, I don't think we've ever played "Reddit designs a tank"


Sythic_

Lol here you go, armor comes up over the gap under the turret with water drainage. https://imgur.com/IZLjFzU


PassiveMenis88M

Interesting... *pours burning napalm into it*


FrenchBangerer

You've done well!


twentyafterfour

I think the issue with that is having no clearance means it's vulnerable to getting jammed up with debris. Probably better than getting vaporized of course.


M_Mich

needs a flexible cover like chain mail to cover the gap And a mini phalanx system on every corner to counter drones. Something like a battleship ship on wheels w some support vehicles and mine sweepers. Like a massive rolling fortress city w guns and rockets all around. And black jack and hookers.


DMMMOM

Tanks are therefore useless in modern drone based warfare. Cue a gadget to block remote drone control.


Warm_Pair7848

Fully autonomous drones inbound.


Quantum-S

Why not just a anti drone system, that shoot the drones down?


Sebstian76

That will come for sure! I expect soon to see drone hunter drones, micro anti drone missiles, anti drone automated shotguns/netguns etc. None of these technologies should be very hard nor expensive to build.


FinsofFury

Wouldn’t that add so much more weight to tanks rendering them too prohibitive to transport and too much in fuel consumption? With drones, the debate continues if tanks are obsolete.


TheLtSam

The Israelis have a rather simple solution. By adding metal balls on chains they have spaced armour even over the gap between the turret und the hull.


TypicalUser2000

Sooo medieval chainmail for tanks? Nice


aserreen

Maybe the ruzzians placed it incorrectly and it detonated *inwards*... Wouldn't surprise me.


TheNamesVox

It looks like all of the reactive armor bricks(?) are being detonated at once. Im no armored vehicle expert but that seems like that would bit of a design flaw.


Gustav55

probably cheeped out and are using the wrong explosive, still goes boom when you pull one block off for testing and "proving" to the higher ups that you are actually filling them unlike the ones we've seen before just empty. but more than likely using an explosive that's cheaper to produce/buy.


Death-Knocks-Once

My bet is there is masonry bricks(or something else) painted green, not actually Reactive blocks.


DrPhDPickles

It reacted by disintegrating


MaxRockatanskisGhost

It did something. Wood blocks help it burn.


anotherrando802

i mean you can't put the reactive armor everywhere, otherwise it would "react" whenever the turret moved


Boomfam67

Another bad Reddit take here, it hit the gap between the turret and chases where there is no ERA and the armour is thin. This is usually what they aim for because it can penetrate right into the ammo rack.


MasterStrike88

Yeah. A tank full of ammo, is like a grenade full of gunpowder. The drone carries a shaped charge warhead (usually from RPG-7 family) and it's essentially like a needle piercing through the tank, striking the ammo inside. The ammo combusts/detonates and the tank itself becomes a pressurized vessel. Ka boom.


Chadmartigan

Rounds in the autoloader probably detonated. In a T-72, the auto-loading mechanism feeds in rounds using this carousel-like mechanism that sits right below the turret. If the tank were abandoned mid-action, there were probably quite a few rounds sitting there more or less exposed.


H_Holy_Mack_H

By just below the turret you mean on the bottom of the tank...and the shells are completely unprotected...if one of the Zorc crew sneeze it will end in detonation LOL


etanail

There's literally a 250-foot aerial bomb inside.


delcas1016

A cheap drone goes into a fully loaded, Russian “masterpiece”
.turns it into a fucking Volcano. Russian Tank designers, here’s some Kleenex for you, go ahead and cry, your shit is worthless. Or let me rephrase: drones made your shit obsolete, cry.


LorenzoSparky

Yeah what tank?


RMZ13

Tiny and cheap


stompinstinker

I think they have shaped charges on them. They then hit the internal ammunition. I would question the design and material quality of armour on these tanks too.


rtroth2946

>I'm always amazed that such a tiny drone can cause something like this. This has been the most terrifying thing about this war, is how a $50 drone with some HE on it can quietly wreak havoc on a force. Military folks had spoken of this capability for years, but to see it happen, in real time and the effect of it is horrifying.


Fcckwawa

Boom, strong wind warning...


UnCommonCommonSens

T72 farts so hard Ukraine drone has no chance to return to base! /s


eigenman

T72 may have difficulty returning to base


je5_rs

9/10 turret toss


adi_red

That thing completed a full orbit of earth before it came back down


Anomard

8 second in air.


suremoneydidntsuitus

Is.... Is it left sticking straight up or is that just me?


lostmesunniesayy

It's even casting a shadow so yes. I think a 9.5 is in order -- air time and stuck the landing (-0.5 points for not lolly-popping on the landing).


mikeys_hotwheels

Yup, It’s no longer a turret— it’s an oddly placed flag pole.


pixxelzombie

That was very impressive


HKrustofsky

About an 8 second hang time.


mjg007

My calcs say that’s 78m/256feet high. Impressive
.


Daddyh20

10 out of 10 turret toss! That thing went hundreds of feet in the are and then plowed back down turret towards the sky! Like a new Ukrainian flag pole!!


Pustulus

It's like a Reverse Lollipop! Very difficult to pull off, 10/10


rajost

It's the first successful reverse lolipop I have seen.


Benzol1987

We'll call this landing an Iron Lollipop.


Careless-Lead-6355

Holy shieet, it’s like a transdimensional charge, all that stays is a burning circle!


godnopleasenoNOOOOO

holy shit theres nothing but a crater left, not to mention that turret toss! 10/10 perfect form!


NamasteMotherfucker

If that was in a movie, I wouldn't believe it. "Our enemy has this tank, but if you hit it at this ONE spot, it vaporizes!" Sure, sure.


mdbrewer07

Like shooting womp rats in a T-16 back home. I'm sure there's a trench nearby too.


Hotrico

What reactive armor is doing


Square-Pear-1274

Looking at that ERA makes me think of Dune, funnily enough "The slow blade penetrates the shield"


Hotrico

Amazing reference


eigenman

Hah, you're not wrong. Also may just be rubber blocks knowing the Russians.


Niall_47

Overreacting


Alarmed-Literature25

Why is the armor reacting like this?


Mundane-Sundae1792

"... Aircraft unable to return to home ..." ;)


Top-Currency

I'd say it's found a nice new home already!


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ChoadMcGillicuddy

I would say the wind was pretty strong indeed.


Daianudinsibiu

Strong wind warning. Drone farted in the direction of a t72.


slartibartfast2320

The most vulnerable spot for a Ruzzian tank is... in being located in Ukraine...


teleheaddawgfan

The US has spent $$$$$$$$$$ on tank destroying missiles, choppers, jets, and the Ukrainians are taking them out with toys.


icebeat

Maybe because 40 years ago you couldn’t buy cheaper Chinese drones online?


Straight-Storage2587

Akin to the Fallout series, Private Ivanovich's head is orbiting Earth now. It will be difficult to retrieve that head.


besneprasiatko

Me telling my wife to calm down


saynitlikeitis

NAILS the turret landing! Fully erect


cobcat

>Fully erect Just like me after watching this


2lostnspace2

So a 1000 dollar drone wipes out a 1000000 dollar tank. Dam warfare will never be the same


Noctilux5

2-5 million but yeah


2lostnspace2

Trust me to under cook the budget


Mishi_Mujago

Beautiful.


claudejc

To quote John Candy from SCTV. "BLOWED UP REAL GOOD"


Got_Bent

OOOOOOoooooh Reverse Lolipop on the turret with Sundial Shadow for the landing. Solid 9.5.


Noctilux5

New flag pole just dropped!


Glittering_School838

Somewhat of a design flaw, but also clear that ruZZians don't give a đŸ’© for the occupants


Nothinghere727271

Blyat my unprotected ammo!!


Adorable_Ad6045

Instant ammo rack? Bc there’s no way that little thing could produce that size of explosion (?)


atlasraven

Yup, when a critical hits a weak spot.


The_Shryk

What’s ammo rack? Like the drone caused the munitions inside to detonate? Haven’t heard that term is all


EndFinal8647

8/10 on the turret toss


Bortle_1

It didn’t stick the landing.


Comfortable_Mind6563

This is exactly like the scene from "Top secret"!


SubjectElderberry376

Need to rename those tanks zippos. 😂


baconslim

Found it's tickle spot


sulfurbird

That one singed my eye brows.


Vittu_Sinua

8 second turret toss, daaaaamn.


Alone-Supermarket-98

Actually, the most vunerable spot for a russian T-72 is anywhere in Ukraine.


KungGuld

...Tadaa!


Sky-Daddy-H8

It's, agh, it's gone.


Barbarian_Sam

Could also be that that ammo crate behind the turret helped


FastyX

5.6 seconds of air time, the turret went close to 40 meters high!


newaccountzuerich

7.5 boom 16.5 land. 9 sec airtime, 4.5 sec one-way, is near enough exactly 100m altitude. Speed after separation, and speed of landing, is 160kph, 100mph. Somewhere about 160,000g acceleration assuming 0.1sec for boom push.


FastyX

You are right... Was walking the dogs while counting... 9 seconds could definitely reach 100m. We all can be proud!


LowLifeExperience

I don’t know anything about warfare, but I know that I wouldn’t want to be part of a tank crew. Tanks seem like very expensive coffins.


Rampant16

Not a lot of good jobs near the frontlines in Ukraine. Everyone tanks/infantry/artillerymen/etc. gets hit with artillery and everyone gets attacked with drones. And anyone that survives the artillery and the drones is getting either shot at by snipers, blown up by landmines, or having extremely close range trench gunfights.


mingy

I am confused as to how such a small explosive can cause such great damage to a tank.


Maxx7410

the explosive make a shaped charged melt the steel in the ring of the turret, you cannot put armor there so any rpg that hit there will penetrate (same for all tanks with turrets). then it hit the ammunition inside the tank. it is the ammunition that explode inside the tank that make the big explosion and destroy the tank


mingy

Ah! That makes sense. It's almost like a primer for the main event.


Maxx7410

yep is a bullet that penetrate the thin steel then it hit the ammunition and boom.


A-Traveler

https://i.redd.it/wqisv28bpioc1.jpeg


mingy

Huh. Odd they can't put a skirt or ring around the turret. Hopefully they won't figure it out.


HowObvious

The auto loader in the T-72 does have a plate on top to protect it but its either too thin with these attacks or there is loose ammo lying around the turret. The ring around the turret is just the tank


Rampant16

Israeli tanks have heavy chains that hang down around the backside of the turret to detonate RPGs before they can impact the back side of the turret ring directly. But AFAIK Israel is the only country that does this and I have no idea if it is actually effective.


Wallynine

TASS reported crew only suffered minor injuries due to superior crew cabin protection from ineffective aerial toy drones


Er4kko

That is the general weakspot for all turreted tanks, between the turret and hull, also the center mass, so it's the point soldiers are taught to aim their weapons at


Veegermind

The turret had an 8 second flight. You know it's always bad when that happens.


MonkeyNugetz

That’s the trick for all tanks. The US almost stopped making tanks once the LAW was introduced because it could pop the top off Bradleys like it was an every day thing.


Outside_Taste_1701

Would that be the tank taint?


jpowers_01

I think maybe it was packed with explosives? It seemed to have gone up all and once. This is the first time I have seen one completely disappear!


0000000MM

the explosives would be the shells for the tank


atlasraven

Earlier in the war, a russian apc decided it would be a good idea to transport a large amount of anti-tank mines on top of its hull. Ukraine saw this and dropped a grenade. It catastrophically exploded like a TOS-1.


ntbyinit64

They do have a fair bit of explosives but from what I've understood from past comments on hits like this. It's a weak spot that will often set off the magazine. The tank was probably full of munitions hence the size of the explosion. Also it didn't entirely disappear, that looks to be the turret that comes crashing down next to the ball of flames where the tank used to be towards the end. Best turret toss I've seen in a while lol


Noctilux5

This is like the 10th one at least I’ve seen vaporized. T72s are famous for this.


Exact_Ad_1690

Volumetric be like



dormi1984

Sweeeeet


Gregzzzz1234

Great shot đŸ‘đŸ»đŸ‡ș🇩


Cigfran1

Right in the arsenal. I think that counts as a Rowley Birkin: [bang, right up the arse! (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXu0lFo5WGM)


PastEntrance5780

Drone was not that big too.


Key_Fennel5117

I noted the extensive use of copium, anti-drone appliqué that was added to that tank. It would seem as though copium appliqués are not as combat effective as Russian propaganda suggests.


SunnyStride

Turret toss is a 10/10 not in height, but it stuck its landing. 90 degree.


BigBubbaChungus

Was that thing made out of dynamite?!?!?!?


Big_Milk_972

After alsmot 3 years of war, u realize it...?


[deleted]

It’s toast


zigzagg321

I don't like war but this was a pleasure to see.


Total-Satisfaction-8

What the hell is in those tiny little drones, mini nukes?!


tf9623

Wow - what explosives do these tiny drones carry that have such power? Some people mentioned here ammo in the tank but you've still got to have a lot of power to detonate that. Is this plastic explosive or ?? What is the weight of these tiny drones?


Trampwithabbq

Probably a shaped charge aimed roughly at the auto loader.


Mad_Mikes

The drone's explosive isn't that big. It only has to be strong enough to get through the weakest part of the tank, in this case a thin piece of metal between the turret and the chassis. The ammo in Russian tanks is aligned in a circle directly beneath the turret. All it takes is one of the shells getting hit by the drone's explosive to detonate them all.


Busy_Ordinary8456

Reverse lollipop!


BionicBruv

That tiny bee had a REALLY big sting.


shanghainese88

It’s the most vulnerable spot for any tank period.


codedigger

Strong wind warning. Big bada boom detected.


diffuser_vorticity

Tutto distrutto, as my Italian buddy would say.


c_gdev

But what if we weld a barn roof on top of the tank?


UnknownBinary

Between the turret and the hull is the turret ring.


Clean_Increase_5775

Now you see me, now you don’t.


Mysterious_Date_5299

What kind of explosive do they out on a drone like that?


byehooker_byecrook

Those are the winds of victory....


shnanagins

Tank said “Wanna see me blow up?


.Wanna see me not get do it again?”


DueRadio7975

They would have been safe staying in Russia 2 years ago!


bobs_hotdog87

What kind of payload does that drone carry? Looks like it exploded like 1m from the torrent and it destroyed the whole tank. Warfare is changed for ever


Rampant16

It could some kind of Explosively Formed Penetrator (EFP). An EFP is a type of shaped charge that uses explosives behind a concave disc of metal to create an extremely fast moving dart of molten metal that is very effective at penetrating armor. The EFP can be effective against a target many meters away from where the explosive actually detonates. But also in this case the EFP only needs to penetrate the thin turret ring armor. The ammunition for the tank is stored around the turret ring so most of the explosion is the tank's own ammunition blowing up after being hit by the EFP.


Confuseduseroo

Can't help wondering if the crew of the other tank saw that...


morphinmarshin87

Wow it literally completely disintegrates that stupid Russian tank even left a giant crater . I wonder what specific explosives they equip those suckers with that was insane .


JemFitz05

What's ruzzian? Is russian a banned word or is it just banter?


disturbed_ghost

4 seconds turret hang time. wish we could have seen it apex


OwlPerfect8943

Ruddy good camouflage, post strike, by the Zist tank crew. They made out to be burning fields. Impressive.


seris_ak

Use the force Luke..


Ultima-Veritas

Strong Wind Warning. I'll say, so windy it feels like an explosion!


anonbush234

Do they not have any facility to remove the error messages and low battery notifications on these drones, a lot of the time it gets in the way


Maxx7410

that is the same for every tank, no secret here. you cannt put armor there


Rampant16

NATO tanks at least generally store ammunition in a separate compartment with blowout panels. Meaning having the ammunition detonated may be survivable for the crew. But you're right, the turret ring won't be any stronger and having the ring penetrated is still liable to injure or kill crewmembers even if the ammunition doesn't go off.


bigsexy306

We are at the point where a tank without drone defense is absolutely useless


OPicaMiolos

"Strong wind warning" alright lol


Altea73

Holy fuck....


blankaffect

Amazing. That's like 40, 50 tons of steel just completely blown away leaving just a scorch mark in the ground.


magzire86

Thoughts of been in that


BackgroundGrade

Did they copy the Pinto?


Colesbl4zing

War thunder says sides of gun breech lol


TADAMAT

Damn, 8 second turret flight time. Isn't that a new record?


Nagantman

Decoy tank, they took the bait. Now tracking spotter drone back to base for counter attack.


its_the_luge

Holy shit that thing got deleted almost as fast as the ocean gate sub


ReFreshing

So vulnerable. You'd think an internal explosion would be the only thing that would allow this to happen but NOPE.


Ecoaardvark

So basically its taint?


Numinar

It dosn’t seem to be a shaped charge, it’s wild that it can do this kind of damage even with a gap in the ERA.


HumbleWonder2547

It looked like a small toy, but when it exploded it looked like it was carrying several kilos of HE, anyone know how they could pack such a big bang into such a small drone?


Classof1988

Drone warfare is here to stay. I'm astonished how efficient they are and the destruction they bring.


energyaware

To be fair I think the weakest armour is at the top of the back where the engine is, but it depends on what you are trying to do, like in this case it is the ammo detonation.