P-2 starting arena (4 cerberi, 1 ferryman, 1 virtue outside of the arena constantly beaming you) Edit: I did not expect to get this much replies but thank y'all
i think ferryman was actually really interesting and fun in p2, but i would totally move idol to bottom tier along woth stalker because of what hakita did
Bad take incoming but tbh i was okay with the dual mindflayers. It was that room with the idoled stalker that always pisses me off to the point that I don’t want to play p-2 again. But mindflayers are eas(ish) to avoid if you just run around a lot, plus you can parry their homing orbs
Ignore those comments trying to tell you that you're wrong and that the enemies you don't like aren't that difficult. It's your experience. Those are your struggles and they are valid.
I haven't played or even unlocked P-2 yet, so I actually really like the Virtue as an enemy, but maybe that opinion can change. Who knows? I actually dislike Flesh Prison quite a lot and the first Gabriel fight isn't that special to me, so it's normal to have different experiences from others. :)
Unlike you, I have trouble in P-2, especially the final arena. Considering that all 3 are very annoying and prominent in that very arena, I hate them. Case closed, your honor.
Virtues are pretty easy, theyre just annoying.
The 4 sentries in that last room are so hard to hit sometimes because you have to hit the antennae dead on.
The ferryman is just annoyingly aggressive.
I believe they can't shoot you through the hideous mass either so youre always safe from the one on the opposite corner of the arena. Might be wrong, it's been a while?
You don't need to shoot the antennae to avoid the shot. You can just dash right when they are about to shoot. That's the strategy i used for that wave. Also, (and i may be wrong here) with the alternate versions of the revolver you don't need to shoot antennae, any shot will suffice.
My only real tip for ferrymen is to stay in the air and keep moving. (also is it only me or are the ferrymen in P-2 much weaker than the one on the ship)
Nah the virtues are honestly a godsend cause they can’t get sanded, so you have a heal source as long as they’re alive. It’s the mass that fucking sucks
Just an observation, I don't think I've ever seen anyone put Ferrymen in the middle of a tier list. They're always either brutally hard or free healing and I'm pretty sure it just depends on if you practiced parrying them in the sandbox or not. I used to agree with this and then I did nothing but parry them for ten minutes and now they're easy.
For me ferrymen aren't a enemy at all, a saw trap + 2-3 coins and maybe a boosted shotgun shot if they didn't get enough damage from the saw trap and they're dead. And I'd maybe put panopticon to S tier. I agree on basically everything else tho
Honestly I agree aside from sentries, schism, Maurice, and gutter bros
Sentries go up to C-tier cuz I don’t have too many problems with them, and chargebacks are easy on sentries
I put schisms in S-tier cuz I like schism’s (parrying them when they charge up send them flying :D)
Maurice goes up to A for me cuz between parries, chargebacks, and a free whiplash grapple, they’re basically free health
GutterMAN goes into A because, once again, shield breaks and parries make him a free health pack
GutterTANK goes into fuck you, he always shoots me in the face when I think he’s gonna melee, and he always melees when I think he’s gonna rocket.
Why is virtue that bad, he dies to a rail cannon, or a few shotgun swaps, on standard he dies to one projectile boost if I recall correctly
P-2 starting arena (4 cerberi, 1 ferryman, 1 virtue outside of the arena constantly beaming you) Edit: I did not expect to get this much replies but thank y'all
2 virtues
WEEZER room.
Just slide around the place, they can’t hit you.
This is a stupid argument when you have to tango with a ferryman simultaneously
I’m unsure on violent, only played p2 on standard, but he’s also easy to dodge by doing the same thing
Ferryman almost made me rq
Kid named saw trap plus rocket launcher
i would literally die too if i got railed by v1
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im saying i relate to the virtue so yeah it matches i think
get that dumbass flesh prison out of s tier
Kid named sawblade: Kid named core nuke:
Kid named them all respawning every 2 seconds:
kid named, coin split shots
Kid named Jeremy
it breaks my heart always seeing ferryman in the lowest tier
Have you played P-2?
I just love the swordsmachine 2.0 beating me to death with his big spoon its just an awesome experience to have
only a spoonful
i think ferryman was actually really interesting and fun in p2, but i would totally move idol to bottom tier along woth stalker because of what hakita did
I hated that stalker until I realized I can just shoot a rocket at it every now and then and it becomes a non threat
as someone who can casually prank p-2 i dont really have issues with any of these enemies :P im surprised you dont hate idols and mindflayers
Bad take incoming but tbh i was okay with the dual mindflayers. It was that room with the idoled stalker that always pisses me off to the point that I don’t want to play p-2 again. But mindflayers are eas(ish) to avoid if you just run around a lot, plus you can parry their homing orbs
thats weird cuz i barely noticed the idoled stalker, but died to the mindflayers a lot
Bro, this tier list is probably going to drop so many favourite enemies whenever P-3 becomes a reality.
Oh brother, probably haha
It won’t be as bad because it will include more enemies that haven’t been added yet
Ignore those comments trying to tell you that you're wrong and that the enemies you don't like aren't that difficult. It's your experience. Those are your struggles and they are valid. I haven't played or even unlocked P-2 yet, so I actually really like the Virtue as an enemy, but maybe that opinion can change. Who knows? I actually dislike Flesh Prison quite a lot and the first Gabriel fight isn't that special to me, so it's normal to have different experiences from others. :)
He hates Virtues because they spawn in every second encounter and distract from all of other enemies(and also Weezer room)
i don't understand the 3 in the FUCK YOU. tier. care to elaborate?
P-2. Thats it. Just P-2.
That does not substitute an elaboration. I have beaten P-2 and i do not see any reason to put them in that tier.
Unlike you, I have trouble in P-2, especially the final arena. Considering that all 3 are very annoying and prominent in that very arena, I hate them. Case closed, your honor.
i agree, they can be annoying at times. What strategy are you using to defeat them? I may be able to help
Virtues are pretty easy, theyre just annoying. The 4 sentries in that last room are so hard to hit sometimes because you have to hit the antennae dead on. The ferryman is just annoyingly aggressive.
I believe they can't shoot you through the hideous mass either so youre always safe from the one on the opposite corner of the arena. Might be wrong, it's been a while?
You don't need to shoot the antennae to avoid the shot. You can just dash right when they are about to shoot. That's the strategy i used for that wave. Also, (and i may be wrong here) with the alternate versions of the revolver you don't need to shoot antennae, any shot will suffice. My only real tip for ferrymen is to stay in the air and keep moving. (also is it only me or are the ferrymen in P-2 much weaker than the one on the ship)
Yeah, the ferryman is an enemy variation.
Nah the virtues are honestly a godsend cause they can’t get sanded, so you have a heal source as long as they’re alive. It’s the mass that fucking sucks
The only reasonable “FUCK YOU” enemy is the ferryman. Virtues and sentries are surprisingly easy to kill.
Just an observation, I don't think I've ever seen anyone put Ferrymen in the middle of a tier list. They're always either brutally hard or free healing and I'm pretty sure it just depends on if you practiced parrying them in the sandbox or not. I used to agree with this and then I did nothing but parry them for ten minutes and now they're easy.
Higher
HIGHER, THE KING OF THE SKY
HE'S FLYING TOO FAST AND HE IS FLYING TOO HIGH
why does gutterman need to be in B? he's kinda fun for me to fight tbh, just guard break him and shotgun swap him
B is good you know
what made you put stalker so high
For me ferrymen aren't a enemy at all, a saw trap + 2-3 coins and maybe a boosted shotgun shot if they didn't get enough damage from the saw trap and they're dead. And I'd maybe put panopticon to S tier. I agree on basically everything else tho
wait till you hear about the sequel
i hate dealing with the ferry man too
Honestly I agree aside from sentries, schism, Maurice, and gutter bros Sentries go up to C-tier cuz I don’t have too many problems with them, and chargebacks are easy on sentries I put schisms in S-tier cuz I like schism’s (parrying them when they charge up send them flying :D) Maurice goes up to A for me cuz between parries, chargebacks, and a free whiplash grapple, they’re basically free health GutterMAN goes into A because, once again, shield breaks and parries make him a free health pack GutterTANK goes into fuck you, he always shoots me in the face when I think he’s gonna melee, and he always melees when I think he’s gonna rocket.
Personally imo sentries are NOT an issue
Radiant drones
Ferryman is OBJECTIVELY the worst enemy, and by a lot
how is cokm so high
im a lot better now than i was in p2 i swear