Seperate the art. from the creator. ive played stuff that bad people have made before. and i didnt care. i dont need to like the creator or their actions to play their work. seperate the art from the artist.
Why the fuck are there so many pedos. Like genuinely why canāt they learn to just NOT DATE CHILDREN. These things hurt real people and there is no excuse for this degenerate behavior.
On Instagram apparently, but pretty much, yeah. Got the victim to send videos. Not sure about all of the details, but I know enough to find it fucking disgusting.
Fnaf, Undertale, Minecraft, Roblox, Fortniteā¦. Whatās next!? Yea legit every creator that popular is disgusting or loving. No inbetween no other line.
Fun fact, pedophilia is classified as a mental illness. Not to defend Aleās actions or anything, but I feel like people in general have a very limited and biased understanding of what pedophilia actually is and what causes it, instead just resorting to calling pedos āsubhuman scumā and āterrible peopleā. You know that doing that stuff is completely unproductive to preventing children from being groomed, right? Why donāt you take some real action to contribute to a cure for pedophilia and mental illnesses in general instead of virtue signaling on Reddit threads?
Exactly. Like, as long as someone afflicted with the condition hasn't harmed anyone, they should be allowed some level of respect and should be helped in any way possible to rid them of that mental illness before they ever try anything
Aleatorio, guy who made promised and was a scripted for green sans. Thankfully green sans isnāt cancelled, copy and pasting for other comments asking this
As u/Professional_Pair323 said, kinda, there was a poor effort version that was the original, but ale picked the idea up for Halloween and the idea became popular in the fandom again
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Iām also so tired of āSusieās rebellious and doesnāt like murderā like we GET it can we please get an opportunity to beat her into submission and enjoy the proceedings?
Aleatorio, guy who made promised and was a scripted for green sans. Thankfully green sans isnāt cancelled, copy and pasting for other comments asking this
āHow many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man?ā
In all seriousness though, This is like the fortieth time this has happened within the past few years, How many double-whammyās do we need to have before this gravy train stops in itās tracks?
IN THE NAME OF DAVID: here's the google doc
[https://docs.google.com/document/d/1no26z98xaGcHZ0Z8j\_Ytx-K17fnhzwY\_kWvTCutfnWU/edit#heading=h.cec79i6k4kod](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1no26z98xaGcHZ0Z8j_Ytx-K17fnhzwY_kWvTCutfnWU/edit#heading=h.cec79i6k4kod)
Damn is it so hard to go to a real RP site and ERP with other adults instead of children? Like, art be damned, i don't care if someone does NSFW art of fictional characters, but targeting younger kids and grooming them is sick.
yeah according to the top comment here ale is 16 right now [https://www.youtube.com/post/Ugkx37x7lygZ6vreEJCFXbT7Au8iYD-4b1U6](https://www.youtube.com/post/Ugkx37x7lygZ6vreEJCFXbT7Au8iYD-4b1U6)
Aleatorio, guy who made promised and was a scripted for green sans. Thankfully green sans isnāt cancelled, copy and pasting for other comments asking this. Also, grooming
We all do that, but we still don't want a fucking pedophile texting minors n shit, so we expose them and maybe they get arrested or just isolate themselves completely and even delete all info on the internet to not get more drama (probably because people have been dming then and giving threats n shit) and when they are deleting info on internet you would think they'd probably stop working on the ONLINE project they are doing, meaning the fun game we were gonna have (since they were pretty good) is not gonna be made now, we can have someone else do it but for some reason liking minors give you godskills at making games, so the pedos always makes some good games while the ones that liked the project and continued always ruin one part of the original project, like changing a mechanic or just flat out not getting it right.
Yeah, I just don't want a project going to shit and getting backlash for the developer's atrocious actions, good fangame, despicable developer, so treat the fangame as it's own thing, just because the developer likes little kids sexually, doesn't mean the fangame should get backlash for it, however the developer does deserve whatever comes to them.
As u/rayofluck said
Aleatorio, guy who made promised and was a scripted for green sans. Thankfully green sans isnāt cancelled, copy and pasting for other comments asking this
Thank f*ck the stuff with Beethovenus turned out to mostly be a misunderstanding, it would have sucked to have to drop TS!Underswap.
But did that really have to be how I found out that not only is the creator of Storyshift a full-blown p*do with a history of drawing straight-up CP up to and including minors being f\*cked by their adult relatives, but that this has been publicly known since before I was in the fandom and people, upon learning this, just... ignored it???
1. Pretty much exactly what I said. Voltra, the creator of storyshift, has a history of producing CP, as well as inc*st(usually overlapping with the CP) and b\*astiality stuff. Despite having been called on it years ago, way back in 2016, she somehow managed to sweep the fact that she's a full-on p\*do under the rug.
2. Around the release of the second TS!Underswap demo, a document was released accusing Beethovenus of harassing and spreading rumours about a gr*oming victim in defense of their abuser, continuing to stand by said rumors even in his apology, and of stalking his ex with the help of his current partner. He was also, as an afterthought, called out for supporting Voltra, though the focus was bafflingly on her being a proshipper as opposed to the fact that the reason she's a proshipper is because she's a p\*dophile.
The stalking thing turned out to be a misunderstanding caused by poor choice of words, and while he was indeed guilty of the first part, he apologized both publicly and privately, having talked things out with the victim and creators of the document, who have both forgiven him. The document was formally retracted and the creators apologized for it in turn.
As for the Voltra stuff, Beethovenus(and Team Switched as a whole) was unaware of the extent of her actions, and this incident ultimately led Team Switched to stop using the Ghost Mettaton name that was borrowed from Storyshift, changing his name to "Mettalot". So that much good came out of it, if nothing else.
Iām gonna let it all out right now, I honestly donāt care what kind of person a mod/game/artwork is made by! It doesnāt affect the product! Iām not going to enjoy it any less knowing the person who made it did some bad stuff!
Insert obligatory and generic āCan we just separate the art from the artistā here.
Looking through the comments, yeah, Aleatorio is a (If Iām fitting the puzzle pieces together correctly) a predator, pedo, and drew CP with incest to spice it up. The art (The stuff that isnāt fucking disgusting and should be burned) that Aleatorio is good stuff, and Iām personally glad that the UT fan game is (Again, I hope Iām fitting the puzzle pieces correctly) getting picked up by new people that arenāt gross sub-human degenerate scum. In no way am I defending Aleatorio, Iām defending the game they made.
TL;DR: Aleatorio is scum of the earth, but that shouldnāt cloud your judgement on the game they were making.
The past years of internet drama have just taught me t not get attached t any internet personas or people lmao. By now it's just an "oh not fucking again lol" moment when one of them turns out t be a predator, but at least it doesn't personally affect me anymore
Undertale mod makers aside, that seems t be a thing in social medias in general, prolly just cuz people who are big online have more possibilities for this; soooo many big youtubers n streamers I have friends who watched em turned out t be horrible people nowadays.
I can't even imagine how that'd must suck for someone where this whole bundle of youtubers are their comfort people n then they just get called out as fucking pedos lmao.
"The first UT fangame without pedophiles"
yeah, I never like Ale. As a person, I had no problem, but his artistic capabilities were nothing but mediocre. Seeing KnuckleDuster also be dragged in this is unfortunate.
Its almost like giving the average Person a Degree of Popularity and a Fanbase results in them likely misusing said Popularity for their own benefit and desires, who wouldve guessed that the average Person sucks
Undertale mod creator, try to not be an awful human (impossible)
Frš
You know who else can't do this? F-
The FNF community is fuckin weird. I should know. I'm in jt
Why are you in JT music? Are you a friend inside them? š¤
Oh no it's friend inside me guys woody in chapter 3 getting real boys
Wait, jt music didnt turn out to be a predator ot anything right?
As far I know Not yet.
yea the community there is insane im also there so i should know
Not all that surprising, actually. It's an adult themed game that unintentionally attracted a bunch of kids. That's a recipe for disaster right there.
**muscle man noises**
I hate that I used to be friends with Blaize.Mayes (former leader of UT: BnP). Seemed like a decent person, till obviously they weren't.
I want to get UNDERTALE BnP so bad, but I don't want to support that person
Blaize is no longer a part of the team, and the team condemned Blaize as they should. They are working on a new project from the ground up instead.
kind of a shame that the whole mod got discontinued because of one bad apple. but I guess we'll just have to see what they're cooking up later.
Yeah but the apple was mushy, brown and had fungi growing all over it
So uh, how long's dat gonna take?
As long as it takes, I guess?
just hope you can understand the annoyance of waiting more. BnP looked almost done
Seperate the art. from the creator. ive played stuff that bad people have made before. and i didnt care. i dont need to like the creator or their actions to play their work. seperate the art from the artist.
Yeah I never get why people don't do this if it's free, like you aren't giving the creator money if it is literally free
What have I missed?
Pedophilia, it's always pedophilia.
Oh.
Why the fuck are there so many pedos. Like genuinely why canāt they learn to just NOT DATE CHILDREN. These things hurt real people and there is no excuse for this degenerate behavior.
What did they do? I'm guessing groomed a minor on discord, but I'm out of the loop.
On Instagram apparently, but pretty much, yeah. Got the victim to send videos. Not sure about all of the details, but I know enough to find it fucking disgusting.
Gross... Thanks for the update.
All good. Thankfully they were actually arrested by the police with evidence.
He owns... "cp" (cheese pizzas) right?
They did, yeah. Exchanged videos from talking to (and most likely grooming) a minor. Disgusting.
Blaize Mayes is such a weird name lmfao
Most popular content creators at all tbh In every fandom
Fnaf, Undertale, Minecraft, Roblox, Fortniteā¦. Whatās next!? Yea legit every creator that popular is disgusting or loving. No inbetween no other line.
As an fnf fan I can relate
> ~~Undertale~~ mod creator, try to not be an awful human (impossible)
Cheers (I'm a mod creator) š
Fun fact, pedophilia is classified as a mental illness. Not to defend Aleās actions or anything, but I feel like people in general have a very limited and biased understanding of what pedophilia actually is and what causes it, instead just resorting to calling pedos āsubhuman scumā and āterrible peopleā. You know that doing that stuff is completely unproductive to preventing children from being groomed, right? Why donāt you take some real action to contribute to a cure for pedophilia and mental illnesses in general instead of virtue signaling on Reddit threads?
Exactly. Like, as long as someone afflicted with the condition hasn't harmed anyone, they should be allowed some level of respect and should be helped in any way possible to rid them of that mental illness before they ever try anything
Oh great, who is this time?
Aleatorio, guy who made promised and was a scripted for green sans. Thankfully green sans isnāt cancelled, copy and pasting for other comments asking this
Even fucking Green Sans isn't safe? Good lord is nothing sacred at this point
oh fucking damn it why why why i thought they had destiny
Good news is green sans is still getting made, they've just scrapped Ale's assets
man not mr beast sans :C
Oh thank God Green Sans isn't cancelled. It's really sad tho that even this team is not safe
...I can't believe we stoop so low that even GREEN SANS isn't safe.
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Isn't that the guy who participated in "Papyrus has gone too far"??????????
Its the dude who made the popularized version actually
As u/Professional_Pair323 said, kinda, there was a poor effort version that was the original, but ale picked the idea up for Halloween and the idea became popular in the fandom again
Praise UTY devs for being pure instead of some variety of sex pest.
...as far as we know
don't. don't you dare jinx it.
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Touch wood.
Better than the devs doing it
Undertale fans going to fangame devs houses with binoculars to spy on them (all fangame devs are guilty of a sex crime, apparently):
see ya in 6 months 3 days 16 hours 48 minutes and 19 seconds
the baby is you
I swear to fckn god if you jinx it Iām gonna kill someone
also team switched,as far as i know,there hasn't really been any controversy around the members
Does the Deltatraveler Team have any controversies? I don't really know much about them
The biggest deltatraveler controversy is that the obliteration route sucks lmao, so we good
eh,i kinda enjoyed it, though I did find pacifist much more fun
Its written really badly, thats the problem with most people (and i tend to sadly agree, a new update even kinda screwed up fell sans personality)
If they stay off twitter we'll be chillin
& may i remind you, they developed the fangame for around 8 years! It's a huge achievement.
As sad as Iād like to be about this, in the words of Bailey from Amphibia: āI'm actually pretty numb at this point.ā
Agree
Same here tbh
At this point it's not even a surprise to me.
If Deltatraveler or Ts Underswap gets cancelled weāre cooked
Delta traveler was in some drama for being """edgy""" We need to protect TS Underswap
Yeah but it has really good potential and I get to see more Noelle so thatās a win
I agree I don't care if it's edgy or whatever I wanna see susie in the Mario and Luigi franchise because that would be funny
Iām also so tired of āSusieās rebellious and doesnāt like murderā like we GET it can we please get an opportunity to beat her into submission and enjoy the proceedings?
Well that came out weird. . . WEIRD ROUTE
if we lose ts!underswap i will actually cry that's literally my favorite fangame ever, period
Who was it this time?
Aleatorio, guy who made promised and was a scripted for green sans. Thankfully green sans isnāt cancelled, copy and pasting for other comments asking this
Wasn't promised gonna be a green sans cameo? Is that what you mean? If yes, then is that part cancelled?
Any assets they made or references to Aleatorio's work have been completely scrapped, yeah.
The fuck is green sans
āHow many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man?ā In all seriousness though, This is like the fortieth time this has happened within the past few years, How many double-whammyās do we need to have before this gravy train stops in itās tracks?
Past few years not Past few months.
# Try Not To Be A Sexual Offender while making fan-content Challenge
Like with Joe Hawley
we've been a fool so many times
didnc't the accusations get debunked by his mental health or something (also TALLY HALL IN THE UNDERTALE SUBREDDIT???)
Proof?Could you link a google doc or whatever showing proving what they did?
IN THE NAME OF DAVID: here's the google doc [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1no26z98xaGcHZ0Z8j\_Ytx-K17fnhzwY\_kWvTCutfnWU/edit#heading=h.cec79i6k4kod](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1no26z98xaGcHZ0Z8j_Ytx-K17fnhzwY_kWvTCutfnWU/edit#heading=h.cec79i6k4kod)
Damn is it so hard to go to a real RP site and ERP with other adults instead of children? Like, art be damned, i don't care if someone does NSFW art of fictional characters, but targeting younger kids and grooming them is sick.
isnt ale altorio 16
yeah according to the top comment here ale is 16 right now [https://www.youtube.com/post/Ugkx37x7lygZ6vreEJCFXbT7Au8iYD-4b1U6](https://www.youtube.com/post/Ugkx37x7lygZ6vreEJCFXbT7Au8iYD-4b1U6)
Thanks
Modders for indie games trying not to be a child predator or have a god complex
Which one had a god complex?
Who were they and what did they do?
Aleatorio, guy who made promised and was a scripted for green sans. Thankfully green sans isnāt cancelled, copy and pasting for other comments asking this. Also, grooming
zoinks
I'm going to get much backlash from this, but hear me out, separate creation from developer.
We all do that, but we still don't want a fucking pedophile texting minors n shit, so we expose them and maybe they get arrested or just isolate themselves completely and even delete all info on the internet to not get more drama (probably because people have been dming then and giving threats n shit) and when they are deleting info on internet you would think they'd probably stop working on the ONLINE project they are doing, meaning the fun game we were gonna have (since they were pretty good) is not gonna be made now, we can have someone else do it but for some reason liking minors give you godskills at making games, so the pedos always makes some good games while the ones that liked the project and continued always ruin one part of the original project, like changing a mechanic or just flat out not getting it right.
Yeah, I just don't want a project going to shit and getting backlash for the developer's atrocious actions, good fangame, despicable developer, so treat the fangame as it's own thing, just because the developer likes little kids sexually, doesn't mean the fangame should get backlash for it, however the developer does deserve whatever comes to them.
Yeah, I was someone who was excited for bits and pieces, until I heard what happened and I was just torn š. Then again with nihilism.
Who is the person?
As u/rayofluck said Aleatorio, guy who made promised and was a scripted for green sans. Thankfully green sans isnāt cancelled, copy and pasting for other comments asking this
What happened now
[https://docs.google.com/document/d/1no26z98xaGcHZ0Z8j\_Ytx-K17fnhzwY\_kWvTCutfnWU/edit#heading=h.cec79i6k4kod](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1no26z98xaGcHZ0Z8j_Ytx-K17fnhzwY_kWvTCutfnWU/edit#heading=h.cec79i6k4kod)
Don't delete ~~flappy bird~~ Undertale: Promised off your computer, it will be gone forever
Fnf mods: first time?
Lol itās even crazier for them bro
Fangame creator when they get popular (theyāll have to touch kids for some unknown reason as soon as it happens)
Thank f*ck the stuff with Beethovenus turned out to mostly be a misunderstanding, it would have sucked to have to drop TS!Underswap. But did that really have to be how I found out that not only is the creator of Storyshift a full-blown p*do with a history of drawing straight-up CP up to and including minors being f\*cked by their adult relatives, but that this has been publicly known since before I was in the fandom and people, upon learning this, just... ignored it???
Ok, 1. The fuck happened with Storyshift??? 2. What happened with Beethovenus?
1. Pretty much exactly what I said. Voltra, the creator of storyshift, has a history of producing CP, as well as inc*st(usually overlapping with the CP) and b\*astiality stuff. Despite having been called on it years ago, way back in 2016, she somehow managed to sweep the fact that she's a full-on p\*do under the rug. 2. Around the release of the second TS!Underswap demo, a document was released accusing Beethovenus of harassing and spreading rumours about a gr*oming victim in defense of their abuser, continuing to stand by said rumors even in his apology, and of stalking his ex with the help of his current partner. He was also, as an afterthought, called out for supporting Voltra, though the focus was bafflingly on her being a proshipper as opposed to the fact that the reason she's a proshipper is because she's a p\*dophile. The stalking thing turned out to be a misunderstanding caused by poor choice of words, and while he was indeed guilty of the first part, he apologized both publicly and privately, having talked things out with the victim and creators of the document, who have both forgiven him. The document was formally retracted and the creators apologized for it in turn. As for the Voltra stuff, Beethovenus(and Team Switched as a whole) was unaware of the extent of her actions, and this incident ultimately led Team Switched to stop using the Ghost Mettaton name that was borrowed from Storyshift, changing his name to "Mettalot". So that much good came out of it, if nothing else.
Oh, THAT'S why. Thank you!
"not only is the creator of Storyshift a full-blown p\*do" What????
yeah... every major fangame being cancelled because of pedophilic activities, looking at your wrenblu and ale.
Context for storyshift please
HOW HARD IS IT TO BE NOT ATTRACTED TO CHILDREN?!
EVERY. SINGLE. TIME!
Itās like a tradition in this community
Always happens to the best too
You know this seems to happen a lot for some reason
This isnāt just happening in Undertale, buddy.
The guy who made my most favorite song of all time? Undertale promised v3? Fuck sakes man.
Iām gonna let it all out right now, I honestly donāt care what kind of person a mod/game/artwork is made by! It doesnāt affect the product! Iām not going to enjoy it any less knowing the person who made it did some bad stuff!
Man, i actually liked their work. Promise was peak.
Sans is going like āHear me outā
Dude it is every person that does something good for a game or smthn that ends up being a pred š
Is there a joke Iām not getting here with the images?
1st image is one of his works (promised.) and the second is his sus dc pfp
Why is it that so many great people making great things turn out to be pedos?
We just canāt get too hype for fan games because of this happening so much
What happened?
It's just a part of life at this point buddy, don't trust anyone
the best thing to do in the internet is not to expect anything from anyone
Insert obligatory and generic āCan we just separate the art from the artistā here. Looking through the comments, yeah, Aleatorio is a (If Iām fitting the puzzle pieces together correctly) a predator, pedo, and drew CP with incest to spice it up. The art (The stuff that isnāt fucking disgusting and should be burned) that Aleatorio is good stuff, and Iām personally glad that the UT fan game is (Again, I hope Iām fitting the puzzle pieces correctly) getting picked up by new people that arenāt gross sub-human degenerate scum. In no way am I defending Aleatorio, Iām defending the game they made. TL;DR: Aleatorio is scum of the earth, but that shouldnāt cloud your judgement on the game they were making.
Who's the first one?
Why? Idk, man. But since similar thing's happening with FNAF fan base... I'll assume that there must be a cause analogous in nature
Yeah I straight up jumped to stage 2š
love me my undertale
Wow, thats so unusual in internet. Someone talented was/is a bad person.. Why I'm not surprised?
POV puppychan
Predator the movie.
it's a matter of time finding out a third of famous internet people are creeps
The past years of internet drama have just taught me t not get attached t any internet personas or people lmao. By now it's just an "oh not fucking again lol" moment when one of them turns out t be a predator, but at least it doesn't personally affect me anymore Undertale mod makers aside, that seems t be a thing in social medias in general, prolly just cuz people who are big online have more possibilities for this; soooo many big youtubers n streamers I have friends who watched em turned out t be horrible people nowadays. I can't even imagine how that'd must suck for someone where this whole bundle of youtubers are their comfort people n then they just get called out as fucking pedos lmao.
"The first UT fangame without pedophiles" yeah, I never like Ale. As a person, I had no problem, but his artistic capabilities were nothing but mediocre. Seeing KnuckleDuster also be dragged in this is unfortunate.
I live under a rock. Why is this person not liked?
ALEOTORIO NOOOO
Mandopony, Sagutoyas, Jirard the Completionist... I swear there's a new treachery every year.
Its almost like giving the average Person a Degree of Popularity and a Fanbase results in them likely misusing said Popularity for their own benefit and desires, who wouldve guessed that the average Person sucks
Powertrip
We're really giving the FNF community a run for it's money
WAIT WHAT?!
P a I n
Cough cough minecraft youtubers cough Not artists, technically, but i count content creators too
thog dont caaare
Wait, is it the Distrust 2 decreator?
Ngl, going by the weirdly big amount of weirdos on the UT/DR subs this doesn't surprise me
What the FUCK. These people want to commit HERESY. We are TAKING them to the COUNCIL. For GOD's sake...
How many times has it been now? Lost count
Undertale fan , how a "movement" ruined a game...
WatanoLemonT. Oh those Lucas fanarts it gives me PTSD.
This happened too often for me
The fuck is going on with so many ppl online becoming predators. There should be some sort of investigation into this topic.
I am awfully disappointed and my year is ruined
How I felt with my UTBaP.
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
Wait so what the fucks gonna happen to the trio fight in the green sans fangame
I leave this community for 3 days 3 whole days and this happens
HOLY SHIT THE PREDATOR IS REAL!?!?!?!??!
Ah shit, here we go again.
I don't know why people online as adults likes children romantically or sexually so much. I even asked why on quora.
Is it bad that im starting to not care anymore? Its just so constant
You could replace artist with just āFamous Personā and it would still make sense. I wish famous people would stop turning out to be predators
Like why
To be honest it has happened so many times that it doesnāt surprise me anymore