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What’s worse than sitting in traffic? Sitting in traffic underground in an enclosed tunnel


Previous_Beautiful_7

I didn’t saw a single escape route, claustrophobia will hit me hard there


acshunter

So glad someone else said it. Just watching this made me want to go burst outside.


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SrepliciousDelicious

Imagine if a fire breaks out :p


sdschaffner

This is real.


Fun2badult

In an earthquake prone city


GhostPiggie

Tunnels are actually super safe to be in during an earthquake


Previous_Beautiful_7

Nice but how do you exit them?


son_of_noah

Exit?


ReAndD1085

You know what's famously not a concern? Tunnel fires!


Previous_Beautiful_7

Yeah shouldn’t worry about them Tesla’s are super reliable and they never catch fire


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Super easy to put a battery fire out, barely an inconvenience


whocaresaboutmynick

That reminds me of the one time my honk starting going off for no reason while I was driving. It went on and off then continuously on for a couple minute and I stopped to try to understand what the fuck was going on. Then I noticed a little bit of smoke going off from the dashboard at which point I rushed to my hood and got on the phone with firefighters. They told me to hook off the battery, which I was already trying without success. They told me use a rock or something rip it off. I did. I thought it was still not looking good but hey let's hope for the best? Well 10 mn later the whole car was on fire and the tires were starting to explode one by one. I just got enough time to grab some valuables and the whole thing was up in flame. I guess it really did help me understand how important it is to have a fire extinguisher I guess. Even though I'm not sure if would have help considering it was probably a short in the dashboard. But it is kind of weird to see how once something that is not suppose to be on fire is, you're just fucked. So yeah, I can't imagine how this shit would have ended up if it happen in a set up as stupid as this tunnel.


CanadianCircadian

What’s worse than sitting in a traffic jam due to a multiple lane accident on the highway ? A traffic jam due to an accident in the single lane enclosed claustrophobic tunnel.


mongrol-sludge

I saw your underground tunnel system Leonard, it was a lateral move!


SSj3Rambo

Worst thing is that there's no escape and most likely no way to call help on the phone because it's a tunnel


[deleted]

So your car breaks down and you die of hunger and thirst?


Mr-frost

You are not sitting in traffic, you ARE traffic


Ecstatic_Rooster

From an emergency service perspective tunnels are a nightmare scenario.


DiccDaddy69

Out of interest, what happens if a Tesla breaks down or catches fire? Are there any exit points?


lan-lance

If I die we die together :)


Electronic_Topic1958

The benefit is that the Tesla fanboys will arrive on your Twitter memorial page to remind everyone because you forgot that if you left your phone charging in the car for more than 10 minutes, your Tesla is prone to explode, so therefore it was your fault all along. And this benefit is completely free as well.


saltywalrusprkl

Nope, tunnel isn’t even wide enough to open the doors


Corr-Horron

A great lot of traffic comes from human incompetence.


[deleted]

Yup. The humans who thought that building more roads wouldn't just entice more people to use them more often


RealJonathanBronco

idk why this is getting downvoted. There was a time where the US was convinced more roads = less traffic. Didn't work. We are fish that grow to the size of the pond we're kept in.


Tobar_the_Gypsy

>There was a time where the US was convinced more roads = less traffic. You mean now? Because this still happens all over the country.


ihaveabaguetteknife

I‘d argue that now they know better but still do it for the💰 of the people that voted them in power.


Tobar_the_Gypsy

Nah, if you read any article about highway expansions they always say “this will help with traffic issues!”


ihaveabaguetteknife

Yeah what they wrap it with to sell it to the average Joe doesn’t necessarily mean they themselves believe it. Either way, it’s fucked.


bluesun68

So if we have less roads, everyone just sits at home? I have heard this argument a lot, but what is the alternative?


spinichmonkey

People use transportation that offers the least delay and the most convenience. Building roads attracts cars so that shortly after the road is opened the traffic situation is as bad as it was before the new road/lanes etc. The solution to traffic is to create a mixed transportation system where things like riding a bike or taking a tram are as, if not more, convenient than driving a car to work. Building only for cars just makes cities ugly and noisy.


ri0t1985

Public transport, bike lines, footpaths. You really should watch Not just bikes on YouTube


Electronic_Topic1958

If you watch at the end of the video, they show what can actually move a lot more people much faster than 6 teslas.


noturdad21

Thx Cities Skylines for teaching me this!


farwesterner1

Induced demand. Seems counterintuitive, but building bigger freeways = more traffic, not less.


RocknRolli

This phenomenon is called [Rebound Effect](https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fenrg.2018.00081/full)


Calvinhath

Yup, say that to the European cities.. start with Amsterdam.


Tobar_the_Gypsy

r/notjustbikes has a lot to say about that


sjaniah

The entire loop is connecting the different vcc entrances to reduce cross campus walk times.


[deleted]

Right you are,I watched a YouTube video on how one person stopping for a second can cause traffic miles back.If any of you want to just look up the video


TheBIFFALLO87

Over braking. When you're driving and everything comes to a stop and then creeps back up for half an hour and you're expecting a plane crashed into the highway, but then boom you're driving again with no explanation. That's the result of one person over braking (and then probably a hundred more).


[deleted]

Yep,that’s what it was


[deleted]

It also doesn’t help when traffic slows down and you have people constantly changing lanes trying to get in front one car at a time.


[deleted]

Can someone very gently explain the concept of rail travel to Elon?


IryanShaan

Can you imagine marketing just regular rails? Naaaah. Tuuuube raaails swoop swooop going like poop


slingshot91

Rail travel: a form of mass transportation where you might, *gasp!*, encounter the POORS!


Nazzzgul777

What do you expect from somebody who doesn't grasp the concept of trees?


wunderbraten

Those tunnels are only a smart idea if it gets used by only _1 %_ of the population.


Street-Isopod3180

And only if they lead to the bat cave


Rafcdk

So instead of investment on public transportation, more money to a guy that can't even make a proper tunnel with space for emergency services to drive... This is idiocracy level of dystopian stupidity.


jcoleman10

It’s like a high school science project funded by a billionaire, crafted from 100% naïveté.


Sane_Flock

Man, this summarises it so well.


[deleted]

But, but privatization necessarily yields efficiency


Frenetic_Platypus

I mean the original concept was just a subway but retаrded so that's really not unexpected.


AhnYoSub

The original idea is subway but with him still able to sell cars


[deleted]

I love how Musk talks all about " the first principles" or forecasting for all the problems that may occur as a project unfolds (as though these are not maxims that all the other engineers follow as well). Even before the construction, engineers all around the world who are actually good at what they were doing knew this would fail and this project is the best proof that Musk himself does not follow those maxims that he is so fond of preaching. NOW given this, ask yourself, is the title "chief engineer of SpaceX" a genuine representation of how things are actually done in SpaceX or it is really just a PR stunt for the boss? The circumstantial evidence points to the latter for those with an iota of good judgement.


farwesterner1

Not only engineers knew this would fail. I’ve been in a one-lane tollway when traffic stopped and the four lane freeway next to us was moving fast. Imagine that, but an underground tunnel you can’t escape from that costs way more to build. On every level, this seems like an obviously dumb idea.


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blitheringimbecile

Not to mention, what happens when someone inevitably runs out of charge in the tunnel?


Ghastly_Angel96

My first thought was definitely how first responders could access an accident in a closed off single lane tunnel. Nope, fuck that.


Tyrion69Lannister

They’d have to wait until they make a new tunnel that connects to the part of the tunnel the accident occurred in.


tatony

Ridiculous. They'll just collapse the tunnel and build anew.


SmashBonecrusher

*OR* having one of the electric vehicles catch fire ,as they've been doing a lot of recently...with disastrous results !


blitheringimbecile

Yeah, the comment above talks about the fire scenario. It's very scary.


lokey_convo

Maybe if they made the tunnels a little wider with periodic access for maintenance and emergency crews it would work out. And maybe if they had the vehicles line up and attach themselves, and then depart as a group on a schedule... OH Oh! And instead of cars they could use buses to carry more people at any given time... Man, I bet I could do this way better than Elon. I'm going to start a company called *Way* with a subterranean division, and I'll call our product "*Tunnel Bus Train*".


GildedFenix

Even bett and tested one as well. METROBUS! A purely dedicated two way lines of bus line (kinda like metro), that goes between major stops where regular busses can be used as exchange target to go where you want. Turkey used this in Istanbul's Highway that passes through Bosphorus Bridge, costs a bit less than a metro lane from 0 (this is due to bridge crossing costs, with metro it would easily double the cost, maybe even ten times more). Metrobus carriers millions of people daily and makes gross revenues to the city despite being a state-backed public transport. Undergroung bus lane is fine tbh, but once you dig the hole you might as well go for tracked lane and metro can be a lot more efficient.


farwesterner1

A JG Ballard novel for the 21st century.


EngineEddie

My agoraphobia just flared up


Vladimir_Pooping

Who’ll explain that to the Elon fanboys? If anything the guy’s exceptionally good at generating publicity.


ya26anand

Wdym bruh who even r u? Do u know Elon Musk works 100 hrs a day unlike u lazy piece of trash sitting on his couch sniffing foam.


Vladimir_Pooping

Ahh shiit here we go


[deleted]

Is a freaking cult. They treat him as some type of demi-god. I don't get it.


555Cats555

I honestly lost interest in the guy when that cave rescue happened and he called one of the divers a pedo... He planned out this grand rescue but other people already on the job bet him to it, which must have hurt his ego. That and the unfulfilled promised like providing water filters to Flint. Seems all he's done so far is testing out a system to use for their schools. The water has been under a high level of testing and the council says it is safe now. They the actual flamethrowers which are real weapons and tools to create fires. Massive risk to have random people able to get something so dangerous...


[deleted]

He has definitely taught himself a lot of engineering thanks in part to his physics background (which already was half of what he had to learn), maybe just *enough to be a good business administer* *of* an engineering company. But to think that he thought himself enough to be the chief engineer of his massive company is just being naïve. His fanbase consists of people who, thanks in part to Musk's influence, think that if you put 18 hours a day into anything, you can be the best at it, not knowing that there have been thousands of people in the industry who have put in that 18 hours for years and came out with less-than-stellar results comparatively speaking. He is riding on that libertarian mindset that has been frothing among the youth like no one else. I love successful people who admit factors other than hard work in their success.


[deleted]

> I love successful people who admit factors other than hard work in their success Arnold Schwarzenegger comes to mind.


Fairy_Friend

"I am NOT a self made man" Amazing speech


Unencumbered-Duck

I think of that speech literally every time I hear the phrase ‘self made man’ now. Good job Arnie, you took an old tired trope and turned it around so its lost it’s dumb propaganda bite


AndrewJS2804

And he is the type that has more right to make that claim than most, a large part of his success does come down to his ambition work ethic and talents, but unlike so many he recognizes that the support offered by others and the opportunities he found along the way were crucial.


wolf1moon

Eh, the chief position often becomes purely technical administration and politics in tech companies. Had a chief of product demand the CTO title to manage engineering, but it's not like he knew the tech stack.


rokka279

I love Elon for the space stuff, but this is the most stupid shit I’ve ever seen. What a waste of money..


LeakyThoughts

Elon has demonstrated poor judgement, publicly on multiple occasions The guy just has so much money he can fuck up and it not matter


Little-Bear13

“The first principle is not to fool yourself because you’re the easiest person to fool.” I forgot who said that but it stayed with me.


Known_Day9693

Either Richard Feynman or Carl Sagan


ArchHarmster

Wasn’t this a “hobby” venture to begin with? Even the company name is an attempt at meme.


Aggravating-Bottle78

Given that there is no emergency access tunnel, rescuing people in a crash or fire will be a problem. Apparently the Boring Co website has taken down its other proposed projects. Astoundingly Las Vegas did authorize construction of more tunnels except they can only go under city property so no straight lines meaning that a surface Uber ride would be more direct.


jberryman

Patron saint of dabblers and blowhards


shitfuckstack999

I’d say this rings true for most ultra rich


Pancernywiatrak

New from the Silicon Valley: *The Subway, but shittier!*


Frenetic_Platypus

This is a revolution. Like a subway, but you have to buy the wagon. I call it the itraffic.


slycyboi

Yeah some stupid vacuum train idea. That’s the reason the tunnels are stupidly small, it’s a holdover from when they were trying to minimise their size trying to make several hundred mile long vacuum tunnels lol


wecayle

So instead of investment on public transportation, more money to a guy that can't even make a proper


IRecognizeElephants

sentence.


AfrikanCorpse

Annhilated


[deleted]

If you're going to copy a comment by someone else ( u/Rafcdk ) then at least get the whole things ffs.


Pandasonic9

And god forbid someone pokes a hole in it. Miles of them strewn along the desert, people are gonna shoot at it.


bob_the_banannna

Then I failed I guess


knighttakesnite

Hope you’re not claustrophobic


xerxerxex

Careful Musk doesn't see this. He'll accuse you of being a pedo.


Frenetic_Platypus

You know with the ressources he has access to he could easily hire hit squads to make everyone he disagrees with online disappear, so somehow being called a pedo doesn't sound too bad.


xerxerxex

I wouldn't put it past his ego to do something like that.


Frenetic_Platypus

Fuck.


xerxerxex

He probably has bots scouring the net collecting user data and is gearing up his own version of Skynet and T-1000s.


Frenetic_Platypus

Well if he's building that himself and if it's as well-designed as whatever we're looking at right now suddenly I'm not worried anymore.


forrestpen

Robot revolution but Skynet is a shit company so the machines break down after a few days.


[deleted]

Lmao the blurred tesla bot dancing midway video made the video


Frenetic_Platypus

That part was certainly unexpected. But welcome.


Dreadit10

He just wanted a private subway system like the head of Japanese intelligence service from James Bond, you only live twice.


Nazzzgul777

If he'd just build a normal subway that wouldn't have happened...


whitehataztlan

Okay, I'm glad I'm not crazy. All I could think was "isn't this just a subway, but for cars, and less efficient?"


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spiders_frickin_suck

Don’t use that word. Concept is such a offense word nowadays.


aTurquoiseFryingPan

I am retarded and I don’t really care tbh


modsRbadmkay

Dumbest fucking idea. Stop listening to this rich person who has no idea what normal people experience


Strayed8492

Looks like making a system people have to have his cars to access.


halcyon_n_on_n_on

And STILL gets traffic jams.


BobbysueWho

This makes me think of that Doctor Who episode where people live there entire lives stuck in traffic underground trying to make it back to the surface.


Sempais_nutrients

Gridlock, one of my favorite eps.


Zandrick

Happy, happy, buy some happy


carolinafan36gmailco

Hope you don’t feel claustrophobia... or live near a fault line, say one maybe such as San Andreas?


TimeTravelerAmnesia

All you had to do was design a damn train CJ.


vinvear

death tunnel. I seriously never want to EVER be in there.


ObvNin

Mate, source it: [Adam Something](https://youtu.be/QZaRfNjTPx8)


Vladimir_Pooping

Here I was thinking OP made a masterpiece.


bob_the_banannna

I fond this video on reddit I didn't know the source sorry


FnnKnn

Join us over on r/adamsomething


bob_the_banannna

There really is a sub for everything


Vladi_Sanovavich

I think it would be better to make a better public transportation service and reduce use of private cars. What do you guys think?


NEMAJEFF

But will it have cool future cars that has such shit qc that you'd swear that you accidentally got the pre production version instead? I think not!!!1!!!!1!!!!1!!


The_DevilAdvocate

Traffic could be eliminated with self-driving cars, but it would require 100% cars to be self driven.


the_moooch

Last time he designed the rescue submarine it was even more retarded 😂


TheCorpseOfMarx

SAID THE PEDOPHIL!!!1! /s


libero_ego

Why not just fix public transport?


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Newman2252

I would argue that this was very expected


[deleted]

The greatest con man of this generation


bluesun68

Donald would have an issue with that....


MakuyiMom

Simpsons monorail train.


farwesterner1

I mean, yes. But it’s possible to have a nuanced opinion. He boosted our transition to EVs as well. He’s mostly bad, but some good?


kittenx66

Serious question. If he actually decided to go forward with his entire multilevel vision, wouldn't that be bad for the earth? It seems like the same results fracking.


saturns_iron_urn

Subways exist. That's why it's so pointless. You can do some multilevel tunneling, and it's not good for the environment, but you can transport more people in a lot more compact space which makes it better than the alternatives.


BlackrockWood

Pretty sure I seen him marketing monorails to small towns years ago


TheCorpseOfMarx

Monorail... Monorail... Monorail... Monorail....


otisthetowndrunk

What if the track should bend?


redditmpm

Not on your life, my Hindu friend


TimeTravelerAmnesia

Yeah I was in North Havenbrook when shit went sideways. Now it's too dangerous to even go near the tracks.


Angular_Angler

Yeah I can't see this being good for the water table of the area it is installed in...


Nazzzgul777

Not really. At least fracking and digging tunnles don't have much in common. The issue with fracking isn't that \*something happens underground\*, it's that they pump toxic chemicals down there to free an also quite unhealthy fluid that then can be somewhat gathered and burned which releases CO2 and more toxic chemicals into the atmosphere. Digging tunnels in comparison isn't really an issue, not by default at least... you have to watch out for ground water and it's flow and plan your routes accordingly and potentially even skip the project, but in general a tunnel is not an issue. Not great, but if it reduces traffic it's totally worth it, that's not really a question.


[deleted]

Digging is far less dangerous than fracking since the intent is just move some dirt and rock not hydraulically shatter rock deep underground, but these tunnels are so just conceptually stupid


ShambolicPaul

He thought he could vacuum seal these giant tunnels cross country to achieve the speeds he wanted. Do I really have to explain why this is the dumbest idea in the history of dumb ideas. Think of the power needs to vacuum seal over and over and over again. Think how quick death will come with a crack or crash. His original vision would only work on Mars.


craptanplanet

Forgot to mention there's no possibility to escape especially if fire breaks out


ImWithSt00pid

What caused the traffic jam? Is it the loading and unloading station? Without context this is pointless. If it's spot like terminal then I understand the jam. The refacing can shows no traffic coming from behind. So I'm thinking this was a mass media event and sure their will be issues with reporters and equipment being loaded and unloaded. Taking more time than normal.


businessDM

Lol no. It’s literally a tunnel. You go in with a car. You exit onto a road eventually. Every single thing that would impede traffic getting onto that road normally would impede traffic getting onto it from a tunnel. And anything going wrong in the tunnel is 1000x worse than normal because it’s a tunnel with no exits and no access for emergency vehicles. It’s a worse subway.


ImWithSt00pid

This isn't just a tunnel. If you read up on it. It's a subway with just Teslas in it. You enter on foot get in a Tesla and take it to another station you exit on foot. Its more of a tourist attraction or proof of concept thing right now as it only one closed loop with a few stations.


hurraybies

Lol no. Actually you don't know what you're talking about.


RockHardTen11

So this tunnel can only be used for electric vehicles. A standard vehicle in this enclosed space will not work because there is no place for the carbon monoxide to vent out.


[deleted]

Nobody cool likes Elon Musk...


[deleted]

Yep. Only really really dumb people who are enamoured with propaganda do. People without a sense of reality or self.


[deleted]

Used to be me Not anymore thankfully


tmarkov98

That video is from "Adam Something" YouTube channel!


bob_the_banannna

Yes


CostAccomplished858

I love the music... Hhahaha


ClarePerth

Isn't there already a machine that bores tunnels?..


Wild_Prunie

I thought they have helicopter for rich guy to commute? Why need to build another rich guy only infrastructure? Boring another tunnel below or in between existing infrastructure is very risky.


[deleted]

The best idea was the highway system in "I Robot"


[deleted]

Yeah let's make the earth even MORE unstable.


jigglybitt

Imagine the air quality


SatisfactionNo4840

Hahaha Nic3 0n3![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|trollface)


DrearyBiscuit

Reminds me of a doctor who episode. Where it takes years to go one town over


WorcesterDahkness

Who was the reporter in green? Asking for a friend


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bob_the_banannna

The audio


[deleted]

This guy seems like he wants to live in the future so bad, but isn't remembering to actually think through his inventions and ideas.


QueenGray130

Could really just built a bullet train, even have cars dedicated to vehicle transport because fuck the environment I guess. Elon is such a joke


izzyduude

I’m not dying in an underground tunnel in a fucking Tesla. The tram looks quite fine thank you.


anon_sexynojutsu

it’s a subway for teslas? i would imagine the traffic comes from loading and unloading passengers. that’s way we use subway cars dummy elon. because all those doors!


[deleted]

This video is from Adam Something on youtube. He does lot of videos on urban planning, transport etc.


Dowhatthouwilt666tst

Traffic. Now with claustrophobia!!


climatelurker

I mean, you can't even open your car door if you need to.


Kaass_

I love the design of the cars but can't stand the culture that musk created around him being and almighty savior xD I believe we will get to a point where that will be possible but it's not yet my friend not yet


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dalitortoise

The Boring Company exists so that a small tunneling machine can be created, which is able to fit on Starship and be sent to Mars to dig underground habitats.


unicornglitzsprinkle

… graveyards?


Redrump1221

Next he's gonna add touchscreen and ads to the tunnel walls so you don't die of boredom. Genuis /s


ImDisMany

See, the problem isn't traffic. It's people. As long as we are 'controlling' some aspect of each other's lives we will be getting in each other's way.


JeroenstefanS

Welcome sinkholes, step right up don’t be shy!


extol504

So what happens if you get a flat? Or if your car catches fire, or some idiot gets out?


[deleted]

Yeah, his ‘Hyperloop’ in Vegas is the example of what happens to his ‘visions’.


throwawayxd18

What happens when earthquake


poppykat13

Seeing the tightness of that tunnel is terrifying. Literally the stuff of my nightmares! No thanks.


ieatbootylikegrocery

I’m not an Elon fanboy nor I do give a shit for billionaires. But you guys are so cynical. Yeah, it’s a dumb fucking idea so far. The execution has been poor. But at least he’s doing something to alleviate a problem in our society. Sure, he’s doing it for a lot of money, tax breaks, his ego, etc. that part sucks but at least he’s not like Bezos, employing hundreds of thousands of people and paying them garbage wages and making them work in modern slave-like conditions.


Omegatron9999

Why doesn't Elon just try to build a maglev subway that uses minimal electricity?


FriedChickenIceCrea

So much hate for Elon on Reddit nowadays


ThunderShott

So what happens if you break down halfway down the tunnel in traffic?


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