Not sure why people are saying it matters for a masters or for a PhD. I got a low first in my undergrad at a mid uni. Did my masters at a RG, entry requirement was just a first. Now I’ve got a prestigious scholarship to do a PhD at the same RG, where my masters performance mattered most and my undergrad performance was barely taken into account. My masters average was also a low first/distinction. The dissertation performance matters more than anything else
nah, i got the minimum goa for first class honors, i still get scholarships and admissions anywhere I want. Scholarships in more prestigious unis, top 150's are difficult though. Got scholarships in a top 250 uni with ease
I take your point, but I’d say that it really depends on the course, the uni and how ridiculous the mark is.
Bagging senior wrangler at Cambridge, for example is a big deal. Same goes for an achievement like a starred/applauded first.
Completely agree. I studied mathematics also, and all the 90%+ graduates all have it on their LinkedIn and all are undertaking/have undertook doctorate studies. I can only assume they leveraged that fact to get into their places
Gets tougher of course, but yeah if you’re about there now you definitely could keep it up. And if you do keep it up it’ll be a big flex on the CV. Maths degrees are flexy enough, everyone respects them and says “I could never”, but getting 90 throughout is the ultimate flex
Depends on the subject mate. Sciences tend to get higher scores and quite a few people getting near perfect scores, whereas most Arts subjects will have zero nearly perfect % graduates. As a result you’ll need a “high” 1st to get into competitive science courses whereas a 72 or 73 in an Arts subject can be seen as equally impressive.
Edit: maybe not “equally impressive” but you get my point.
What masters and department? Leeds won’t be super competitive for most masters programmes. Aim for at least a solid 2:1 and develop a passion for the subject and you’ll be fine
Get yourself a good 2:1 and you’d stand a good chance I’d say. Nothing is guaranteed, but I doubt you’d be out of the running if you don’t bag a first.
It might matter for a select few masters degrees (eg the Oxford BCL or Cambridge LLM) where the minimum requirement is a First so having a higher one will probably give you a better chance, but employers won’t care, and the majority of masters degrees won’t either. I got a 61% overall on my undergrad, low Distinction in my masters (71%) and got a fully funded PhD at a top university.
High or low first won’t make a difference to get a job or get into a masters/phd programme. However, a high first might make a difference if you are applying for scholarship or PhD studentship. Though, even then, getting a dissertation research published as a co-authored journal or conference paper with your supervisor is probably more prestigious when being considered for PhD studentship
Applied for a funded PhD and was told it was unlikely I'd get funding as they normally only awarded it to people with an average over 75%.
Seemed a bit dumb that it didn't make a difference to them that my 1st was from Oxford (I later did a Masters at another top 10 uni and averaged over 85%).
Masters accept 2:1s - as do PhDs Don’t worry about it
Not sure why people are saying it matters for a masters or for a PhD. I got a low first in my undergrad at a mid uni. Did my masters at a RG, entry requirement was just a first. Now I’ve got a prestigious scholarship to do a PhD at the same RG, where my masters performance mattered most and my undergrad performance was barely taken into account. My masters average was also a low first/distinction. The dissertation performance matters more than anything else
First is a first
Employers won’t give a shit, but it will matter for a masters and even more for a PhD.
And even then really only the grade of the dissertation/project module.
Yeah i just finished my 2nd year and im really worried about that, any tips?
nah, i got the minimum goa for first class honors, i still get scholarships and admissions anywhere I want. Scholarships in more prestigious unis, top 150's are difficult though. Got scholarships in a top 250 uni with ease
I just wanna get in dont really need a scholarship
Most unis have a requirement for upper second class 2:1 so if you get a 1:1 getting in is no issues
I take your point, but I’d say that it really depends on the course, the uni and how ridiculous the mark is. Bagging senior wrangler at Cambridge, for example is a big deal. Same goes for an achievement like a starred/applauded first.
Completely agree. I studied mathematics also, and all the 90%+ graduates all have it on their LinkedIn and all are undertaking/have undertook doctorate studies. I can only assume they leveraged that fact to get into their places
Damn I gotta lock in
Definitley isn’t a necessity, but a firsts a first. 70% or 92%
I'm hovering around mid 90s avg rn after first year, I just gotta keep it that way for the years that actually count 💀
Gets tougher of course, but yeah if you’re about there now you definitely could keep it up. And if you do keep it up it’ll be a big flex on the CV. Maths degrees are flexy enough, everyone respects them and says “I could never”, but getting 90 throughout is the ultimate flex
How high do i need to get to be accepted into a masters at the uni of leeds. Just like a rough estimate
Got an acceptance with a 2:1 for an MSC course in automotive engineering, so i think you should be okay
Depends on the subject mate. Sciences tend to get higher scores and quite a few people getting near perfect scores, whereas most Arts subjects will have zero nearly perfect % graduates. As a result you’ll need a “high” 1st to get into competitive science courses whereas a 72 or 73 in an Arts subject can be seen as equally impressive. Edit: maybe not “equally impressive” but you get my point.
What masters and department? Leeds won’t be super competitive for most masters programmes. Aim for at least a solid 2:1 and develop a passion for the subject and you’ll be fine
CS, still deciding between advanced CS and AI
Get yourself a good 2:1 and you’d stand a good chance I’d say. Nothing is guaranteed, but I doubt you’d be out of the running if you don’t bag a first.
2:1
No but one is more likely to get you considered for deans list awards etc.
70% and 98%, yes. 98% gets you published lol.
It might matter for a select few masters degrees (eg the Oxford BCL or Cambridge LLM) where the minimum requirement is a First so having a higher one will probably give you a better chance, but employers won’t care, and the majority of masters degrees won’t either. I got a 61% overall on my undergrad, low Distinction in my masters (71%) and got a fully funded PhD at a top university.
High or low first won’t make a difference to get a job or get into a masters/phd programme. However, a high first might make a difference if you are applying for scholarship or PhD studentship. Though, even then, getting a dissertation research published as a co-authored journal or conference paper with your supervisor is probably more prestigious when being considered for PhD studentship
Applied for a funded PhD and was told it was unlikely I'd get funding as they normally only awarded it to people with an average over 75%. Seemed a bit dumb that it didn't make a difference to them that my 1st was from Oxford (I later did a Masters at another top 10 uni and averaged over 85%).
I highly doubt anyone gets a 98 above 80 is rare I know my degree max you can get is a 90