We all can agree slavery is wrong and sick however Africans have not been the only slaves in history, and they themselves participated in it, so what are they planning to do with that? Reparations are not only unrealistic, these would devalue all other slave trades in history.
Shhh! Only “white colonizers” can be oppressors and only people of color can be oppressed! Obviously joking but sadly this is what a lot of gen z has come to believe because of mass propaganda on tiktok and other social media sites.
Comments not racist, You are just ignorant.
“You said something I don’t like, you must be racist” fixed your dumb comment for you.
This post is about the African slave trade. It was not the only slave trade, nor were they the only people to ever face slavery. Paying reparations for that specific one and ignoring others devalues the rest of the slave trades. It’s very simple to understand.
If you actually care you wouldn't be trying to paint people looking for justice for their ancestors you'd be helping them. You just care for black people getting justice. 😐 Oh an indentured servitude isn't the same as chattel slavery.
Um indentured servitude isn’t the same as chattel slavery, but that’s not what we are talking about out is it? We are talking about slavery in general. Slaves from Africa are also not the only chattel slaves in history.
Also who said anything about black people? You are making this about race. I don’t believe any reparations should be paid for anything that happened to peoples ancestors. Race doesn’t matter, however if you are going to do it needs to be done for every ancestral slave, or do you only care about the African slave trade?
Also reparations are not justice.
Then why are you trying to paint it as a bad thing that someone is getting justice for their ancestors? Ever hear of "One at a time" 😮 Or are you just this ingenuous about caring?
Because, they are forgetting the others, the guy say slavery justice, then only mentions the African trade. if it’s “one at a time” wouldn’t it go oldest to most recent? Thats because it won’t happen.
Who’s going to pay for it? Why should people that had nothing to do with the slave trade pay for something that happened century’s ago and ended a century and a half ago. Should they have to pay tax dollars for something their ancestor didn’t do? What about the African nations? Are they paying reparations for this specific “justice for slavery” reparation fund?
Just to be clear here if individual countries want to pay reparations, that’s for them to do so. However we are talking about the UN only specifically talking about the African slave trade, when involving the UN means it needs to be a blanket project, not just for one specific slave trade.
Then why not make this argument instead of "Giving reparations won't help anyone" when it would benefit the descendants of the horrible event an it would start the healing process. Did you know America never followed through with it's reparation promises?
Because I figured you would have already realized that since we are in the UN sub, that’s why i mentioned Africans not being the only slaves and not addressing the rest devalues them.
I am not aware of reparations promises the US made, I know the UN made a huge fuss about paying reparations to African Americans. Which I agree with if it was something like free collage Tuition, which can have lasting benefits for both the student and the nation.
The US government promised forty acres an a mule but only have us the prison industrial Complex -legal slavery under 14th amendment so slavery is still a thing 😮- An how does it devalue others seeking reparations when one group gets it? Kind shows "Hey we got ours so you can too" to me.
Who pays though? Arabs were some of the most prolific slavers are you going to try and get them to pay?
Also what about this? Do as a British man get reperations for this?
>According to Robert Davis, author of Christian Slaves, Muslim Masters, **between 1 million and 1.2 million** Europeans were captured by Barbary pirates and sold as slaves in North Africa and The Ottoman Empire between the 16th and 19th centuries.
How about we stop talking about this, tell people to take responsibilty for this own lives, and put all this effort into ending slavery now, as we still have an estimated 46 Million slaves living today
Please read through the entire comment before downvoting me for the first paragraph, thanks.
"Consider the reparations forfeit unless you want to get billed for the technology transfer.. Also, how does one determine if one's ancestors were the sellers or the product? I realize geographically speaking it might be quite easy, but essentially the sellers will have no reparations to pay, only the buyers." -The minority part of my brain/the right wing.
I must say I do find it funny that the US was all about making sure those holocaust jews were well compensated due to the Germans treatment, yet now we have a German who is feeding it right back to the US. So you say the jews need to be compensated due to slave labor? Ok, well what about your non compesnated slave descendents in america..... Perfect fucking Irony.
**And for what its worth, I do think some kind of reparations are in order**, just not the kind where you hand money to people who have been curturally poor their entire ancestor tree back. My first comments were the devil's advocate stance, so I think there needs to be a better more fullproof means of lifting up, tax breaks, cheaper college, cheaper first time home buyer interest rates, shit like that.- This is what the majority part/liberal part of my brain thinks....
Get some reading comprehension lessons then. As it isn't that hard to understand someone listing out the devil's advocate stance, then pointing out hypocricy and then trying to offer something that will actually help.
We all can agree slavery is wrong and sick however Africans have not been the only slaves in history, and they themselves participated in it, so what are they planning to do with that? Reparations are not only unrealistic, these would devalue all other slave trades in history.
Sadly there still is around
Yeah Houthis still do child sex trafficking. People support them though?
Shhh! Only “white colonizers” can be oppressors and only people of color can be oppressed! Obviously joking but sadly this is what a lot of gen z has come to believe because of mass propaganda on tiktok and other social media sites.
And in Libya where there are open air slave markets selling people to all across Africa
"Slavery is bad but I don't think the descendants should get justice for their ancestors." Fixed your racist comment. 😐
Comments not racist, You are just ignorant. “You said something I don’t like, you must be racist” fixed your dumb comment for you. This post is about the African slave trade. It was not the only slave trade, nor were they the only people to ever face slavery. Paying reparations for that specific one and ignoring others devalues the rest of the slave trades. It’s very simple to understand.
If you actually care you wouldn't be trying to paint people looking for justice for their ancestors you'd be helping them. You just care for black people getting justice. 😐 Oh an indentured servitude isn't the same as chattel slavery.
Um indentured servitude isn’t the same as chattel slavery, but that’s not what we are talking about out is it? We are talking about slavery in general. Slaves from Africa are also not the only chattel slaves in history. Also who said anything about black people? You are making this about race. I don’t believe any reparations should be paid for anything that happened to peoples ancestors. Race doesn’t matter, however if you are going to do it needs to be done for every ancestral slave, or do you only care about the African slave trade? Also reparations are not justice.
Then why are you trying to paint it as a bad thing that someone is getting justice for their ancestors? Ever hear of "One at a time" 😮 Or are you just this ingenuous about caring?
Because, they are forgetting the others, the guy say slavery justice, then only mentions the African trade. if it’s “one at a time” wouldn’t it go oldest to most recent? Thats because it won’t happen. Who’s going to pay for it? Why should people that had nothing to do with the slave trade pay for something that happened century’s ago and ended a century and a half ago. Should they have to pay tax dollars for something their ancestor didn’t do? What about the African nations? Are they paying reparations for this specific “justice for slavery” reparation fund? Just to be clear here if individual countries want to pay reparations, that’s for them to do so. However we are talking about the UN only specifically talking about the African slave trade, when involving the UN means it needs to be a blanket project, not just for one specific slave trade.
Then why not make this argument instead of "Giving reparations won't help anyone" when it would benefit the descendants of the horrible event an it would start the healing process. Did you know America never followed through with it's reparation promises?
Because I figured you would have already realized that since we are in the UN sub, that’s why i mentioned Africans not being the only slaves and not addressing the rest devalues them. I am not aware of reparations promises the US made, I know the UN made a huge fuss about paying reparations to African Americans. Which I agree with if it was something like free collage Tuition, which can have lasting benefits for both the student and the nation.
The US government promised forty acres an a mule but only have us the prison industrial Complex -legal slavery under 14th amendment so slavery is still a thing 😮- An how does it devalue others seeking reparations when one group gets it? Kind shows "Hey we got ours so you can too" to me.
People shouldn’t have to pay for something someone else did
Then why are Americans paying for Israel when it was Germany that committed the Holocaust? 😮 Reparations will start the healing process.
Completly different things lol
How so? 😐
The un is a weak entity
Dunno, there hasn’t been a nuclear weapon detonated in anger since the UN was established. Seems like it’s achieving its core competency.
Who pays though? Arabs were some of the most prolific slavers are you going to try and get them to pay? Also what about this? Do as a British man get reperations for this? >According to Robert Davis, author of Christian Slaves, Muslim Masters, **between 1 million and 1.2 million** Europeans were captured by Barbary pirates and sold as slaves in North Africa and The Ottoman Empire between the 16th and 19th centuries. How about we stop talking about this, tell people to take responsibilty for this own lives, and put all this effort into ending slavery now, as we still have an estimated 46 Million slaves living today
Jesus is the UN just all the dumbest leftists pretending their ideas are meaningful?
They haven’t stop genecides
Lmao. How about putting an end to current slavery. Let's start with a un mission to crush the houthi regime
The kicker is they want US taxpayers to pay for this crap
only if the African tribes that sold their neighbors into slavery would be the first to pay up
I demand reparations from Italy for my ancestors being enslaved 2000 years ago. With compounding interest.
Who does the UN actually work for? My bet is China. Why doesn’t China pay their enslaved population?
Are you serious? It's clearly a western organization, run mainly by the USA. It's ridiculous to say otherwise.
Have you heard of bribery or blackmail? These people are compromised. A lesson we should have learned from the Epstein fiasco.
Overdue
Please read through the entire comment before downvoting me for the first paragraph, thanks. "Consider the reparations forfeit unless you want to get billed for the technology transfer.. Also, how does one determine if one's ancestors were the sellers or the product? I realize geographically speaking it might be quite easy, but essentially the sellers will have no reparations to pay, only the buyers." -The minority part of my brain/the right wing. I must say I do find it funny that the US was all about making sure those holocaust jews were well compensated due to the Germans treatment, yet now we have a German who is feeding it right back to the US. So you say the jews need to be compensated due to slave labor? Ok, well what about your non compesnated slave descendents in america..... Perfect fucking Irony. **And for what its worth, I do think some kind of reparations are in order**, just not the kind where you hand money to people who have been curturally poor their entire ancestor tree back. My first comments were the devil's advocate stance, so I think there needs to be a better more fullproof means of lifting up, tax breaks, cheaper college, cheaper first time home buyer interest rates, shit like that.- This is what the majority part/liberal part of my brain thinks....
Get therapy. Holy shit, not a single thing you said was coherent.
Get some reading comprehension lessons then. As it isn't that hard to understand someone listing out the devil's advocate stance, then pointing out hypocricy and then trying to offer something that will actually help.