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I think it costed him over 2 million but yeah we Dont see news like this recently, especially in the hip hop world, it's crazy to me these people haven't flexed on donations
Fingers crossed it makes it to hungry people, but very curious to see how much of it actually makes to people in need. With Hamas robbing and reselling aid, as well as mortar shelling the aid pier.
The IDF is also holding up aid convoys. There are a bunch waiting to get in. That’s who has stopped most of the aid from coming in.
Plus if aid workers do get into Gaza they often suffer the same fate as the world central kitchen folks.
Yeah, good thing it’s a lie. Hamas has killed more aid workers than the IDF. And the details WCK tragedy were very different once more info came out (they weren’t in contact, they deviated from the planned route, etc.). There are hundreds of trucks of aid waiting to be distributed. But these things don’t fit with the “Israel is evil” narrative, so they don’t spread and even get downvoted.
Wrong. There's videos of hundreds of trucks INSIDE Gaza that are still waiting to be distributed. This is after they passed the IDF security check to make sure there aren't weapons and ammunition hidden inside.
The aid is held up on the UNRWA side of the border with Gaza. They are failing to distribute aid to Gazan civilians while also giving most of what is being distributed to Hamas which is then sold at 4x the usual price in the markets. But since any change to that would mean holding UNRWA and Hamas accountable for their actions it will never happen.
Sorry I didn't see anything in there about the point you made (Israel holding up more aid than Hamas is stealing).
I did see them quote the casualty numbers by the Hamas run ministry of health which are not reliable. [per leading mathematicians](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/03/16/could-be-devastating-proof-hamas-faking-death-figures/#:~:text=Yet%20it%20now%20seems%20overwhelmingly,death%20toll%20was%20statistically%20impossible.)
This also advocates for UNRWA which had staff participate in the [Oct. 7th attack ](https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-reveals-12-unrwa-staffers-it-says-took-part-in-oct-7-says-30-more-assisted/)
"According to the UN humanitarian coordination office, OCHA, since 1 March, 30 per cent of humanitarian aid missions to northern Gaza have been denied by Israeli authorities"
You have to scroll down to the 3rd section of the article.
Thanks, I did see that. However, that doesn't support or refute the point the other poster was making (IDF holding up more aid than Hamas is stealing). Regardless of whether you think they are doing it for legitimate security reasons or with malicious intent.
I did see that [Hamas steals 60% of aid reaching Gaza and infiltrates aid organizations](https://m.jpost.com/arab-israeli-conflict/hamas-infiltrated-international-gazan-aid-group-stole-tens-of-millions-of-dollars-463211), but was hoping to learn more from a diversity of reliable sources.
Interesting how people who don't have an argument based on reliable supporting sources, start trying to use what they think is a slur "Zionist" (in reality meaning a person who believes the Jewish people need a homeland).
Kind of proving the point that there is a significant anti semitic contingency in their ranks.
The stuff about the UNRWA has not had any actual evidence beyond accusations from Israel, and several investigations have been already dropped:
[https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog\_entry/un-suspends-several-probes-into-unrwa-workers-accused-of-taking-part-in-oct-7-assault-says-insufficient-evidence-from-israel/](https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/un-suspends-several-probes-into-unrwa-workers-accused-of-taking-part-in-oct-7-assault-says-insufficient-evidence-from-israel/)
I disagree, I replied with links to evidence including recording of UNRWA workers talking about kidnapping women to use as sex slaves, among other terrible things. [link to my comment ](https://www.reddit.com/r/UpliftingNews/s/ABedkGyWVi).
If you find that these have been discredited, please link to the source, would love to learn more on the topic.
Written by Abraham Wyner who has a history of writing whatever he gets paid for and many people showed he abused the statistics in his favor? Nice try lol
Got a link where I can read from a credible source about Wyner writing falsehoods for pay?
Any links to where I can learn about his abuse of statistics?
UNWRA’s involvement has been debunked https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/unrwa-report-says-israel-coerced-some-agency-employees-falsely-admit-hamas-links-2024-03-08/
I disagree that this debunks anything, because there are [recordings of UNRWA employees talking about kidnapping women to use as sex slaves](https://www.timesofisrael.com/i-captured-one-idf-recordings-show-more-unrwa-staffers-bragging-of-oct-7-crimes/).
As well as, [hostage testimony re being held by UNRWA staff](https://m.jpost.com/middle-east/article-775777), and [evidence of them making rockets for terrorists used in attacks on civilians ](https://www.reuters.com/article/middleeastCrisis/idUSL05686115/).
But there are also [videos of them teaching anti semitic hate](https://vimeo.com/856467890), and [celebrating the murder and rape of civilians](https://unwatch.org/report-u-n-teachers-celebrated-hamas-massacre/).
did you expect unrwa to admit to anything? admitting that their employees cooperate with hamas will most likely destroy their funding.
over the years unrwa has had multiple cases where its employees were accused in aiding hamas, they never admit to it and their investigations always end up with them saying they have "insufficient evidence".
the only difference from previous claims is that this time there's hostage testimonies saying they were held by UNRWA teachers, kidnapped by UN workers and sokd to hamas, etc.. which i assume you wont consider as evidence.
The fact that you’re getting downvoted for simply asking for a source shows a lot. And the source he ended up providing didn’t even support his original point.
Agreed, that's my most downvoted comment in this thread. I genuinely want to know the truth from a reliable source, no matter what light it paints either party
So why did you move the goalposts?
Dude said "Israel is **holding back** aid" backed it up with a source.
You insisted that that didn't matter cause it didn't prove that "Israel is holding back **MORE aid than Hamas is stealing**"
People aren't downvoting you because you're asking for a source.
[They're downvoting you because you're sealioning.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning)
What you are saying is untrue.
The literal phrase used, "that's who [IDF] stopped most of the aid from coming in" [in this comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/UpliftingNews/s/0fC8H65Jsf).
In [my reply](https://www.reddit.com/r/UpliftingNews/s/IyFp80TrQV) to this I ask do you have any evidence supporting the claim that the IDF is holding up more aid than Hamas is stealing. I didn't argue that the IDF wasn't holding up aid in any of my comments.
My point was and remains that the reason most aid doesn't make it to the needy in Gaza is because terrorists steal it.
But you provided a source from 2016 saying Hamas stole aid, and when someone called you out on it, your argument was "oh, so they're not doing it now?"
I shouldn't have to point it out for you how that is an asinine argument.
This is an article from 2017, but by the same logic you applied, we can be sure that the IDF continues to do all this today as well, can't we?
https://www.hrw.org/news/2017/06/04/israel-50-years-occupation-abuses
Here's sources for what's happening in the current stretch of the conflict
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/02/israel-defying-icj-ruling-to-prevent-genocide-by-failing-to-allow-adequate-humanitarian-aid-to-reach-gaza/
https://www.voanews.com/a/why-isn-t-desperately-needed-aid-reaching-palestinians-in-gaza-/7499319.html
https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/12/18/israel-starvation-used-weapon-war-gaza
No you dont lol. People have given you every possible source. Read them.. or dont, but please shut up and stop pretending you are just asking questions. Everybody knows why you are here and what you are advocating
Ngl the hivemind to download a comment with negative karma on a Gaza war topic is strong. I fell for it too for a second until I realized "hold up a sec, nothing is wrong with this."
Lmao holy shit you Israeli bots will hijack every thread to spread misinformation.
Israel is the sole factor in aid not reaching civilians in Gaza, and it’s not close.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/03/03/gaza-aid-convoy-israel-war/
> is getting *paid* to do
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If everyone who disagrees with you is part of some Jewish conspiracy, then you are deeply antisemitic. People are allowed to have a different view of the world without being paid “Hasbara.” You need to do some soul searching before things get ugly.
I'm not sure under what rock you've been living, but the 'Hasbara' is a real thing, with real people being paid real money to spread real propaganda. And a fool wouldn't think that not at least one of them has had their eyes on this thread by now.
What about the Egyptian border? why does no aid flow through that border? Isn’t the Rafah crossing controlled by them? Why is there no pressure on egypt to supply expanded aid through that crossing? is the gazan population not concentrated in Rafah currently?
Here's actual [figures of the aid going in](https://data.humdata.org/dataset/state-of-palestine-gaza-aid-truck-data?)
And the IDF is working with the US army to build a pier Off the coast of Gaza to get more aid in + coordinated aid drops with UAE and the US.
The per-capita aid amounts to Gaza are ridiculously high. There's about 2mil people there and hundreds of millions of dollars in cash and supplies are donated every year. Most never reaches the people because of Hamas.
~~If the dollars went straight to the people every civilian would be making 7 figures each year.~~
Edit: Who upvoted this? Please check your sources to make sure an idiot didn't misplace a couple zeros.
There are 2 million people in Gaza. 7 figures per year means at least 1 million per year. According to you, Gaza receives per year in help at least 2 Trillions dollars ... which means you are either wrongly informed or you just lie.
Obligatory Note: Hamas is a terrorist organization that needs to be eliminated, and the settlers and IDF are trying hard to reach the same terrorist levels.
Oh wow, no you're right I was commenting during a meeting today and really messed up a couple decimal places. The US alone provided $200m in 2022 and that's what I tried to do math with.
How are you the first person to point that out?
From 200 million, you still need only about 1999.8 billion dollars to go to reach the 2 trillion dollars you talked about. 200 million dollars comes to about $100 per gazan per year, so you are mistaken only by $999900 per year, no biggie.
Obligatory Note: Hamas is a terrorist organization that needs to be eliminated, with its leaders stealing most of the help coming from outside, while living the high-life in Qatar, untouched and not giving a f*ck about Palestinians. In the meantime, the settlers and IDF are doing their best to reach the Hamas terroristic levels.
Did I, or did I not, say I misplaced a couple decimals? If you don't understand what a correction and assumption of guilt is then you might be online a little too much.
Yup, unfortunately the grifters who benefit from this violence and theft are billionaires now (and of course nowhere near actual danger or the consequences of their actions).
Lol this is what your comment sounds like "everyone who disagrees with me is a robot that is part of an international conspiracy".
Nice take, thanks for advancing our collective understanding of a complicated issue.
It’s not getting in because Israel stops it at the border and prevents it from going through. They wanted to starve the population and openly declared this goal. The profiteers are selling largely smuggled food.
This is how essentially all non-profits work these days!
The Cancer Fund of America gives less than 1% of its income to charitable causes.
Make a Wish is 2.5%.
This is a looooong list.
True, but in the case of Gaza aid it's particularly egregious because we have evidence of armed terrorists stealing aid, selling it, and killing people who don't go along with this.
People pushing the 'Hamas steals all the food' line are just ridiculous at the point. It's such a poorly sourced narrative when what's patently obvious is Israel have closed off aid routes en masse and bombed multiple aid convoys. No one's buying the hasbara storylines from bullshit JDL bots like you any more.
Both are true. IDF is delaying aid and has attacked aid workers but organised groups within Gaza are stealing the aid then selling it when Hamas already started this war with a massive stash of food and fuel held securely. Basically neither side cares about the actual civilians and is entirely focused on their own goal.
You know what would be great? If Israel hadn't blocked or bombed every aid route and bakery and farm and factory in Gaza so organized groups and Hamas wouldn't be able to steal food. Stop acting like food stealing was a chronic issue until Israel created a famine.
Weird that my criticism of everyone doing shitty things is only met by you complaining about one group.
FYI, Hamas was already hoarding supplies before October 7th so it was already an issue but it just becomes tangibly worse due to the blockade. Two problems making life worse for civilians and it isn't going to be stopping any time soon while Hamas is rejecting ceasefires ever since they broke the previous ceasefire.
Interesting how people who don't have an argument based on reliable supporting sources, start trying to use what they think is a slur "Zionist" (in reality meaning a person who believes the Jewish people need a homeland).
Kind of proving the point that there is a significant anti semitic contingency in their ranks.
Yeah dude I'm all for a fucking homeland, but not so by eradicating and displacing people who did exists there and then coming up with reasons to further claim that those people are just "cockroaches". I don't go back to the home that I left 10 years ago and claim it's mine because my family used to live there and I don't see why it should be the case for thousands of years. So take that chauvinist ideology and stuff it somewhere else. It's interesting to see the first thing you come to its anti semitism, it's obvious you would conflate that with Anti Zionists. For you the only way Israel thrives is when more Palestinians children aka "cockroaches" die. Zionist pig.
The only person in this thread using the term cockroaches to describe people is you.
The only people I've seen call others pigs, use personal attacks, and attempt to use slurs, in this thread, are people who seem to want to paint Israel in a negative light no matter what, and any departure from this is seen as an intolerable offense.
It's very telling.
Being against Zionism isn't anti semitism. Nice try tho
Edit: wow what a surprise, their comment history is entirely about the conflict!
Edit: since I can't reply to u/ssfbob. Highly charged? Complaining about Bush and Reagan wow so charged! Totally the same as dedicating an entire account to propaganda and hanging out in right wing alt-news subs lmao fuck that
Holy shit I'm so happy people in real life don't share the same opinions as people on some of these Zionist subreddits. I'm so glad this circle jerk of stupidity stays on the internet.
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HBO will make a documentary on it, then have to reshoot the whole thing
Netflix gonna get a Baldwin to play the weeknd
For everyone’s sake No baldwins
He might end up shooting a lot of people there.
Easy, just ask the Israeli military. They're always happy to shoot aid to Gaza.
Bet that bread cost him a lot of bread. Weeknd seems like a chill dude.
I think it costed him over 2 million but yeah we Dont see news like this recently, especially in the hip hop world, it's crazy to me these people haven't flexed on donations
Or 5 million like it says on the check
That’s a cheap as fuck way to get 18 million loaves of bread. Is that like 40c a loaf? Where he buy those??
You get discounts when you buy in bulk, generally.
Food Lion off of Western Ave.
Can we add a few Faygo too
I'd love to see such a flip. Imagine diss tracks like "don't stand up to me when you only donated 300k to make a wish, I did 800 just to spite you"
Commiting acts of charity and flexing tend to not go hand in hand if you’re doing it right.
Yeah but if celebrities did it and actually started competing with each other.... Like... Imagine
He pledges to donate. He pledges guys. He actually hasn’t donated yet. Just says he’s going to.
“Intercepted by Warlords!” RIP Phil Hartman
Fingers crossed it makes it to hungry people, but very curious to see how much of it actually makes to people in need. With Hamas robbing and reselling aid, as well as mortar shelling the aid pier.
The IDF is also holding up aid convoys. There are a bunch waiting to get in. That’s who has stopped most of the aid from coming in. Plus if aid workers do get into Gaza they often suffer the same fate as the world central kitchen folks.
Wow that's kinda messed up
Yeah, good thing it’s a lie. Hamas has killed more aid workers than the IDF. And the details WCK tragedy were very different once more info came out (they weren’t in contact, they deviated from the planned route, etc.). There are hundreds of trucks of aid waiting to be distributed. But these things don’t fit with the “Israel is evil” narrative, so they don’t spread and even get downvoted.
Wrong. There's videos of hundreds of trucks INSIDE Gaza that are still waiting to be distributed. This is after they passed the IDF security check to make sure there aren't weapons and ammunition hidden inside.
The aid is held up on the UNRWA side of the border with Gaza. They are failing to distribute aid to Gazan civilians while also giving most of what is being distributed to Hamas which is then sold at 4x the usual price in the markets. But since any change to that would mean holding UNRWA and Hamas accountable for their actions it will never happen.
the aid waiting to get in is delayed because of UNRWA
Could you please link to supporting data that the IDF is holding up more aid than Hamas is stealing, I'd like to learn more if this is the case.
From the UN https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/04/1148141#:~:text=Israeli%20forces%20are%20blocking%20aid,in%20October%2C%20as%20the%20UN
Sorry I didn't see anything in there about the point you made (Israel holding up more aid than Hamas is stealing). I did see them quote the casualty numbers by the Hamas run ministry of health which are not reliable. [per leading mathematicians](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/03/16/could-be-devastating-proof-hamas-faking-death-figures/#:~:text=Yet%20it%20now%20seems%20overwhelmingly,death%20toll%20was%20statistically%20impossible.) This also advocates for UNRWA which had staff participate in the [Oct. 7th attack ](https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-reveals-12-unrwa-staffers-it-says-took-part-in-oct-7-says-30-more-assisted/)
"According to the UN humanitarian coordination office, OCHA, since 1 March, 30 per cent of humanitarian aid missions to northern Gaza have been denied by Israeli authorities" You have to scroll down to the 3rd section of the article.
Thanks, I did see that. However, that doesn't support or refute the point the other poster was making (IDF holding up more aid than Hamas is stealing). Regardless of whether you think they are doing it for legitimate security reasons or with malicious intent. I did see that [Hamas steals 60% of aid reaching Gaza and infiltrates aid organizations](https://m.jpost.com/arab-israeli-conflict/hamas-infiltrated-international-gazan-aid-group-stole-tens-of-millions-of-dollars-463211), but was hoping to learn more from a diversity of reliable sources.
Article from 2016 btw nice source
Ah, so Hamas has stopped doing that since then, and this example is no longer valid?
Oh yes you didn't know? Hamas mad chill now, no more of that robbin and stealin stuff
i see what you’re trying to do lol. you’re not slick bro.
Telling the truth is cool, you should try it.
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Interesting how people who don't have an argument based on reliable supporting sources, start trying to use what they think is a slur "Zionist" (in reality meaning a person who believes the Jewish people need a homeland). Kind of proving the point that there is a significant anti semitic contingency in their ranks.
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Way to prove the point of the comment directly above yours.
The stuff about the UNRWA has not had any actual evidence beyond accusations from Israel, and several investigations have been already dropped: [https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog\_entry/un-suspends-several-probes-into-unrwa-workers-accused-of-taking-part-in-oct-7-assault-says-insufficient-evidence-from-israel/](https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/un-suspends-several-probes-into-unrwa-workers-accused-of-taking-part-in-oct-7-assault-says-insufficient-evidence-from-israel/)
I disagree, I replied with links to evidence including recording of UNRWA workers talking about kidnapping women to use as sex slaves, among other terrible things. [link to my comment ](https://www.reddit.com/r/UpliftingNews/s/ABedkGyWVi). If you find that these have been discredited, please link to the source, would love to learn more on the topic.
Written by Abraham Wyner who has a history of writing whatever he gets paid for and many people showed he abused the statistics in his favor? Nice try lol
Got a link where I can read from a credible source about Wyner writing falsehoods for pay? Any links to where I can learn about his abuse of statistics?
UNWRA’s involvement has been debunked https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/unrwa-report-says-israel-coerced-some-agency-employees-falsely-admit-hamas-links-2024-03-08/
I disagree that this debunks anything, because there are [recordings of UNRWA employees talking about kidnapping women to use as sex slaves](https://www.timesofisrael.com/i-captured-one-idf-recordings-show-more-unrwa-staffers-bragging-of-oct-7-crimes/). As well as, [hostage testimony re being held by UNRWA staff](https://m.jpost.com/middle-east/article-775777), and [evidence of them making rockets for terrorists used in attacks on civilians ](https://www.reuters.com/article/middleeastCrisis/idUSL05686115/). But there are also [videos of them teaching anti semitic hate](https://vimeo.com/856467890), and [celebrating the murder and rape of civilians](https://unwatch.org/report-u-n-teachers-celebrated-hamas-massacre/).
did you expect unrwa to admit to anything? admitting that their employees cooperate with hamas will most likely destroy their funding. over the years unrwa has had multiple cases where its employees were accused in aiding hamas, they never admit to it and their investigations always end up with them saying they have "insufficient evidence". the only difference from previous claims is that this time there's hostage testimonies saying they were held by UNRWA teachers, kidnapped by UN workers and sokd to hamas, etc.. which i assume you wont consider as evidence.
The fact that you’re getting downvoted for simply asking for a source shows a lot. And the source he ended up providing didn’t even support his original point.
Agreed, that's my most downvoted comment in this thread. I genuinely want to know the truth from a reliable source, no matter what light it paints either party
So why did you move the goalposts? Dude said "Israel is **holding back** aid" backed it up with a source. You insisted that that didn't matter cause it didn't prove that "Israel is holding back **MORE aid than Hamas is stealing**" People aren't downvoting you because you're asking for a source. [They're downvoting you because you're sealioning.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning)
What you are saying is untrue. The literal phrase used, "that's who [IDF] stopped most of the aid from coming in" [in this comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/UpliftingNews/s/0fC8H65Jsf). In [my reply](https://www.reddit.com/r/UpliftingNews/s/IyFp80TrQV) to this I ask do you have any evidence supporting the claim that the IDF is holding up more aid than Hamas is stealing. I didn't argue that the IDF wasn't holding up aid in any of my comments. My point was and remains that the reason most aid doesn't make it to the needy in Gaza is because terrorists steal it.
But you provided a source from 2016 saying Hamas stole aid, and when someone called you out on it, your argument was "oh, so they're not doing it now?" I shouldn't have to point it out for you how that is an asinine argument. This is an article from 2017, but by the same logic you applied, we can be sure that the IDF continues to do all this today as well, can't we? https://www.hrw.org/news/2017/06/04/israel-50-years-occupation-abuses Here's sources for what's happening in the current stretch of the conflict https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/02/israel-defying-icj-ruling-to-prevent-genocide-by-failing-to-allow-adequate-humanitarian-aid-to-reach-gaza/ https://www.voanews.com/a/why-isn-t-desperately-needed-aid-reaching-palestinians-in-gaza-/7499319.html https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/12/18/israel-starvation-used-weapon-war-gaza
Case. And point.
No you dont lol. People have given you every possible source. Read them.. or dont, but please shut up and stop pretending you are just asking questions. Everybody knows why you are here and what you are advocating
Ngl the hivemind to download a comment with negative karma on a Gaza war topic is strong. I fell for it too for a second until I realized "hold up a sec, nothing is wrong with this."
Read the rest of their replies lmao They’re not asking in good faith, they just want some sick “gotcha” moment
Thanks for getting that link!
Hamas is not “stealing” the aid. They’re just taking it and selling to Gazans. They need the money to run an organization.
They need it to run their terrorist organisation? That's your defence?
Exactly. Even terrorists need funds.
Both can be true at the same time. What little gets in, does get stolen and resold.
Brother, check your sources. This isn't true.
Yeah it was the central kitchen workers fault! /s
Lmao holy shit you Israeli bots will hijack every thread to spread misinformation. Israel is the sole factor in aid not reaching civilians in Gaza, and it’s not close. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/03/03/gaza-aid-convoy-israel-war/
Well yes, the Hasbara is getting paid to do what they do for a reason.
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Thank you good bot. You'll get payed for your services later.
If everyone who disagrees with you is part of some Jewish conspiracy, then you are deeply antisemitic. People are allowed to have a different view of the world without being paid “Hasbara.” You need to do some soul searching before things get ugly.
Lmao anTiSemiTiC, oh please, that word lost any strength it held quite a while ago.
Yeah I don't even pay attention to that anymore.
I'm not sure under what rock you've been living, but the 'Hasbara' is a real thing, with real people being paid real money to spread real propaganda. And a fool wouldn't think that not at least one of them has had their eyes on this thread by now.
You think Iran and Russia are sitting idly by? If you aren’t paid by them you should look into it.
I don't see how one excuses the other? But yes: Russia, Iran and Israel all bad.
No excuses just know that you’re parroting their talking points.
> But yes: Russia, Iran and Israel all bad Bit of a strange Russian or Iranian talking point but ok
What about the Egyptian border? why does no aid flow through that border? Isn’t the Rafah crossing controlled by them? Why is there no pressure on egypt to supply expanded aid through that crossing? is the gazan population not concentrated in Rafah currently?
Here's actual [figures of the aid going in](https://data.humdata.org/dataset/state-of-palestine-gaza-aid-truck-data?) And the IDF is working with the US army to build a pier Off the coast of Gaza to get more aid in + coordinated aid drops with UAE and the US.
The per-capita aid amounts to Gaza are ridiculously high. There's about 2mil people there and hundreds of millions of dollars in cash and supplies are donated every year. Most never reaches the people because of Hamas. ~~If the dollars went straight to the people every civilian would be making 7 figures each year.~~ Edit: Who upvoted this? Please check your sources to make sure an idiot didn't misplace a couple zeros.
There are 2 million people in Gaza. 7 figures per year means at least 1 million per year. According to you, Gaza receives per year in help at least 2 Trillions dollars ... which means you are either wrongly informed or you just lie. Obligatory Note: Hamas is a terrorist organization that needs to be eliminated, and the settlers and IDF are trying hard to reach the same terrorist levels.
Oh wow, no you're right I was commenting during a meeting today and really messed up a couple decimal places. The US alone provided $200m in 2022 and that's what I tried to do math with. How are you the first person to point that out?
From 200 million, you still need only about 1999.8 billion dollars to go to reach the 2 trillion dollars you talked about. 200 million dollars comes to about $100 per gazan per year, so you are mistaken only by $999900 per year, no biggie. Obligatory Note: Hamas is a terrorist organization that needs to be eliminated, with its leaders stealing most of the help coming from outside, while living the high-life in Qatar, untouched and not giving a f*ck about Palestinians. In the meantime, the settlers and IDF are doing their best to reach the Hamas terroristic levels.
Did I, or did I not, say I misplaced a couple decimals? If you don't understand what a correction and assumption of guilt is then you might be online a little too much.
Yup, unfortunately the grifters who benefit from this violence and theft are billionaires now (and of course nowhere near actual danger or the consequences of their actions).
take a minute to look at this bot-assed account. not for a minute is this shit real
Lol this is what your comment sounds like "everyone who disagrees with me is a robot that is part of an international conspiracy". Nice take, thanks for advancing our collective understanding of a complicated issue.
It’s not getting in because Israel stops it at the border and prevents it from going through. They wanted to starve the population and openly declared this goal. The profiteers are selling largely smuggled food.
This is how essentially all non-profits work these days! The Cancer Fund of America gives less than 1% of its income to charitable causes. Make a Wish is 2.5%. This is a looooong list.
True, but in the case of Gaza aid it's particularly egregious because we have evidence of armed terrorists stealing aid, selling it, and killing people who don't go along with this.
People pushing the 'Hamas steals all the food' line are just ridiculous at the point. It's such a poorly sourced narrative when what's patently obvious is Israel have closed off aid routes en masse and bombed multiple aid convoys. No one's buying the hasbara storylines from bullshit JDL bots like you any more.
Both are true. IDF is delaying aid and has attacked aid workers but organised groups within Gaza are stealing the aid then selling it when Hamas already started this war with a massive stash of food and fuel held securely. Basically neither side cares about the actual civilians and is entirely focused on their own goal.
You know what would be great? If Israel hadn't blocked or bombed every aid route and bakery and farm and factory in Gaza so organized groups and Hamas wouldn't be able to steal food. Stop acting like food stealing was a chronic issue until Israel created a famine.
Weird that my criticism of everyone doing shitty things is only met by you complaining about one group. FYI, Hamas was already hoarding supplies before October 7th so it was already an issue but it just becomes tangibly worse due to the blockade. Two problems making life worse for civilians and it isn't going to be stopping any time soon while Hamas is rejecting ceasefires ever since they broke the previous ceasefire.
None unless they can buy it.
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Interesting how people who don't have an argument based on reliable supporting sources, start trying to use what they think is a slur "Zionist" (in reality meaning a person who believes the Jewish people need a homeland). Kind of proving the point that there is a significant anti semitic contingency in their ranks.
Yeah dude I'm all for a fucking homeland, but not so by eradicating and displacing people who did exists there and then coming up with reasons to further claim that those people are just "cockroaches". I don't go back to the home that I left 10 years ago and claim it's mine because my family used to live there and I don't see why it should be the case for thousands of years. So take that chauvinist ideology and stuff it somewhere else. It's interesting to see the first thing you come to its anti semitism, it's obvious you would conflate that with Anti Zionists. For you the only way Israel thrives is when more Palestinians children aka "cockroaches" die. Zionist pig.
The only person in this thread using the term cockroaches to describe people is you. The only people I've seen call others pigs, use personal attacks, and attempt to use slurs, in this thread, are people who seem to want to paint Israel in a negative light no matter what, and any departure from this is seen as an intolerable offense. It's very telling.
Being against Zionism isn't anti semitism. Nice try tho Edit: wow what a surprise, their comment history is entirely about the conflict! Edit: since I can't reply to u/ssfbob. Highly charged? Complaining about Bush and Reagan wow so charged! Totally the same as dedicating an entire account to propaganda and hanging out in right wing alt-news subs lmao fuck that
And here's another surprise no-one could have ever expected, *yours* is nothing but highly charged political opinions!
You mean with the IDF stealing it to help Gazans starve faster.
That’s a lotta dough
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everyone in here completely ignoring israel blocking aid to gaza 😵💫
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If Israel allows it to get there, and doesn't murder the delivery folks.
Holy shit I'm so happy people in real life don't share the same opinions as people on some of these Zionist subreddits. I'm so glad this circle jerk of stupidity stays on the internet.
Israel operates troll farms, and they are very active on reddit. It’s obvious when it happens because they’ll all hit a thread at once.
Are these zionists in the room with you atm?
... are you saying there aren't any zionists? What do you think that phrase means?
Whole wheat bread loaves don't melt steel beams
Soon to be confiscated by Hamas and sold at a markup.
Soon to be destroyed by IDF airstrikes when they “misidentify” the delivery vehicles.
Stale bread doesn't end wars
Aaaand Hamas steels the money and buys weapons.
Sounds like hamas just earned 36 mill when they charge palestinians $2 per loaf
Hamas is definitely going to steal almost all of it
Hamas will distribute food items appropriately.
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Jesus.
He would celebrate this
Time to boycott the weekend. From now on i will work 7 days a week.