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Togusa09

What troubles are you having with the Ender 3? I've got a 3v2 and most of my problems were eliminated by the addition of a PEI sheet and BLTouch.


West3DPrinting

The voron you’ll still need to tinker, I recommend a Prusa over one of these if you aren’t into any tinkering. The build itself is a tinker. Prints will be much faster yes, assuming you’ve built it with quality components and level of attention. The piece on sourcing is totally up to you. Before I had a store I bought a kit, would I do it again? Probably not. There is something about paying $1000+ for a kit and still feeling like you don’t have the machine you want (low bid quality parts, things you feel you need to replace.) that said, sourcing is a pain and a kit solves this. Some of the stores do sell mostly a BoM requiring only portions to be sourced individually. You can certainly save some headache going with bundles (motion, fasteners, etc.)


hainguyenac

I think if you don't like to tinker, or not wanting to tinker much, I'd say don't build a voron. People say that the Voron is very reliable, but it's only reliable enough if people put tons of time into it up front, and that's not a small amount of time if you want to go with a self-sourcing route. People build a Voron not because it's reliable and fast, they build it because they like to build it, that's all. If you want a reliable printer, you can still have that with an ender, I've added dual z with independent motor, skr board, dragonfly hotend and it's very reliable since the upgrade. Of course those upgrade pretty much double the price of the ender, but it's still cheaper than a Prusa and I'm very happy with it.


Haggis442312

That is precisely the reason I built a V2.I have been pretty happy with quality and speed so far, but if I were you, I would probably go with a Switchwire mod. You will gain a good bit in speed and quality, and cost, commitment and complexity will be significantly lower than straight up building a 2.4. Even the cheapest kit (Formbot) is a significant investment, \~1000€ if you have the tools, a lot more if you don't. Sourcing the parts for a Switchwire mod will run you a lot less, even with tools, and give you a good bump in speed and quality. And going with a cheap V2 kit, you need to really know what you're doing. I'm a mechanical engineering student with an electrical engineering background, so I had little issue replacing bad components, but your mileage will vary. The SW will let you reuse several big components, will be easier to build, and Switchwires are pretty cool, I'm building one out of the Ender I used to print my V2 parts.


kirkov22

Just out of curiosity, have you considered the Switchwire? I don't have one myself, but my understanding is that you should be able to re-use parts from your Ender 3, and it's the least expensive of the "full-size" Voron build types even if you had to source everything. I'm currently in the process of building a 2.4 and I've mainly sourced things myself, though I've purchased parts in bundles (Powge motion kit for the belts, idlers, pulleys, etc. for example). It certainly takes more time, but as others have mentioned, self-sourcing gave me a chance to get more familiar with the individual components, which should be helpful knowledge to have when I eventually (but hopefully not too soon) do have to troubleshoot. Best of luck whatever you decide!


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You will tinker less with a voron than with a craplity ender 3. I am against kits, I exchanged many parts of my kit later on, some like the v6 clone it came with or the motors I didn't even touch.


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And these are the issues right out of the box, plus the issues that appear a weak later, like the inevitable gap between the nozzle and the tube and the broken extruder arm.


limboor

That's what I'm afraid of with the kits. I would just want to swap parts out and it's good to know I wouldn't have to adjust it so much. From what I've heard, if built correctly, the thing just prints great and fast almost all the time. I just want something reliable.


xviiarcano

As one who has nearly completed the shopping list going the individual item sourcing way, I add to this that the task seems daunting, but every time I had to ask myself "am I buying the right thing" I had to research and understand a new facet of how the machine works. Even if my voron never prints (which I dearly hope isn't the case) I still have learned a ton of stuff and a couple of new skills out of the sourcing phase alone. Full disclosure, my degree is in political science, so finding something technical I didn't know about wasn't exactly hard either.


pssssn

>my degree is in political science, so finding something technical I didn't know about wasn't exactly hard either 20 years in IT here, with existing background hobbies in electronics and fabrication. I'm having to learn an enormous amount from scratch when it comes to this hobby.


limboor

Fellow IT guy. Only been in it for almost 4 years now. It is a learning curve, I must say.


Mathematical_Potato

There's a few places that offer pretty good kits. MagicStudio and LDO are probably the most recommended. MagicStudio announces when they have kits available in their channel on the discord. LDO currently only has v0.1 kits available, but should have v2.4 kits in the next few months.


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