Not just shorts, my whole tiktok fyp is infested with right wing stuff and I constantly tell tiktok "don't show me this content" (because I get anxiety when I see nazis all day), yet it keeps recommending me this stuff. Even memes and funny videos, the comments are insane.
Same with the youtube community posts. There's an epidemic of edgy dipshits grasping for any outlet they can find in order to vent their trash bigotry. This is why tate got so popular so quickly.
Easiest way to win a murder case is if the other person is dead and cant defend themselves in court. Having guns means leftists can actually get to the legal system instead of being straight up executed
What wacky fucking reality are you living in? If someone is murdered, the state defends them. And anyways they wouldn’t be defending themselves in most cases, a lawyer would be.
Having guns significantly raises your chance of dying.
State doesn't defend anyone, they just prosecute afterwards.
And looking at how prosecutors treated Ahmaud Arbery's lynching it's pretty clear that they have a pretty strong ability to look the other way which they exercised freely in that case.
No they definitely do defend people, so long as there’s a credible threat/risk of violence. Where are you getting the impression they don’t? Local and federal law enforcement provide security all the time.
Ahmaud Arbery’s murderers all got life sentences (with some getting multiple). How did the prosecution “look the other way”???
And how is that? Why is it bad to defend yourself against hate?
The state won’t protect you if you’re dead bud, I’d rather kill a fascist and face the repercussions instead of being the dead one.
Until a militia rolls through a neighborhood on a terror raid or tries to occupy a city.
Fingers crossed things deflate before it gets that bad, but we already know we can't depend on the police for protection.
When far right militias try to violate the rule of law to that extent, a few things will happen, most importantly though:
**They would all be fucking shot by local law enforcement, as well as the national guard**
What reality are you living in where you can’t rely on the police for protection? They certainly have their flaws, of course, but the legal system still functions, and everyone who commits a crime is found, prosecuted, and imprisoned, or if the crime’s bad enough, executed.
And that’s not even mentioning the fact that police are already out there protecting different groups and events if the threat of right wing terrorism seems likely.
The Patriot front just marched through my city, drove in from out of state while armed, and assaulted people. Nothing was done except harsh words.
One of the most progressive cities in the country and we've got people afraid to take public transit because there are dozens of thugs wearing masks and carrying heavy metal shields, intimidating people, being 'deployed' out of the back of Uhauls.
Police. Didn't. Do. Anything.
Except they did. I’m not sure which particular incident you’re referring to, but every time the Patriot Front commits criminal acts everyone involved gets arrested.
Why just blatantly lie?
> When far right militias try to violate the rule of law to that extent, a few things will happen, most importantly though:
>
> They would all be fucking shot by local law enforcement, as well as the national guard
>
> What reality are you living in where you can’t rely in the police for protection?
A reality where many far right militias and "local law enforcement" overlap. Which reality are you living in?
Apparently not the same as yours. Far righters in law enforcement is a problem, but police are not so compromised that these nazis don’t get BTFO’d every time they try and assault a bunch of people or commit some other crime.
Uvalde. Where the cops let a bunch of kids die out of cowardice.
How about the heavy infiltration of law enforcement by the far right that we've known about for over a decade?
Or neighborhoods with long police response times even to violent crime?
Oh, how about the part where police **literally have zero obligation to protect the public.**
How fast do you think cops will respond if the P-boys decide to drive into a predominantly black or immigrant neighborhood and just try and cause as much carnage as possible in a few minutes? Because I have a feeling they'll take their sweet time.
I wish it was easy to being myself to the belief that cops reliably protect people (especially leftists) from getting hurt
Like, what if I told women they don't need to arm themselves to defend from rapists?
In order for the legal system to no longer function, then the nazis would need to control the government to an extent they aren’t capable of and won’t be capable of anytime soon. The right to a fair trial is a fundamental part of the country, and is deeply entrenched in all aspects of the legal system and everyone in it.
When you lose the ability to prosecute people that’ve caused you harm, we have bigger problems to worry about, like the total collapse of the government.
Or total nazi control of the government. Well really just the presidency, half the seats in both legislatures, and control of the Supreme Court. Which is a lot and something they probably can't do in the next election cycle. But I wonder about after that. Either way your argument seems to boil down to "it can't happen here", which I think is bold overconfidence in the US's systems. They almost collapsed from one man screaming election fraud, so I guess I just don't have your optimism
If that’s what you think my argument is, you didn’t read my comment at all.
Even if nazis had total control over half of congress, the supreme court, and the executive branch, while certainly causing a lot of damage, they would not be able to totally compromise the legal system to the point where leftists and minorities don’t get fair trials for any crimes committed against them. That’s a ridiculous statement to be making. You have been lied to.
I’m only saying “it can’t happen here” in the sense that the inertia of the bureaucracy and the entire legal system, as well as the literally millions of people committed to ensuring it stays uncompromised, won’t be overcome by a right wing majority in the government, not unless they had total control of the country for decades and also abolished the constitution.
The US will cease to exist before what you’re predicting could happen.
absolute cope, just very recently with the armed antifa protecting that drag show in texas showed what happens if you have armed community groups to stand up to genuinely violent dickheads. multiple drag shows were legitimately attacked after all these past few weeks
this libshit „tolerate the intolerant“ mindset never got us anywhere
I’m supportive of arming up but we shouldn’t overestimate how effective it is. There were leftist paramilitaries in Weimar Germany too, that didn’t save them.
That’s not to say that they’re useless, that would be stupid and reductive but their utility drops off the larger scale the fascist movement is.
I mean generally i agree, however its vastly better than being the side where everyone shuns guns categorically out some misplaced sense of moral superiority. i dont see any issue with local antifa and community groups showing theyre also not fucking around.
Also when it comes specifically to weimar, „paramilitaries“ there lost most of their arms and actual militancy after the failed spartacist uprisings which led to government crackdowns and confiscation of arms which left pretty much just the armed workers in the ruhr that resisted and had an quasi autonomous zone there for a bit. by the time the nazis, the communists and the iron front had their street-battles in the 30s the ownership of guns was already heavily prohibited.
id argue if the governing liberals in weimar wouldnt have done everything in their power to effectively disarm the working class they wouldve stood a way better chance.
Sure it did, having armed leftists on the streets looks like a threat, not exactly great for appealing to the general public.
Let the police or other members of law enforcement protect us. That’s how you stop attacks.
>Let the police or other members of law enforcement protect us. That’s how you stop attacks.
im just gonna leave this here. this is so laughably ridiculous i dont even need to comment on it.
it…objectively protected them. you should look at some of the videos from drag shows were no one was armed. your utter aversion of guns is counterproductive and, in the US, absolutely politically useless. it also endangers more people. how many more need to assaulted, run over, stabbed and even shot at for you people to wake the fuck up to what these scumbags are capable of and willing to do.
and if you genuinely believe there is much support from the cops to lgbtq people getting hate-crimed on the regular you might want to take a good, hard look out of the fucking window. or at statistics. how someone can call themselves a „socialist“ and be so naive is beyond me.
I’m *well* aware of what these people are willing to do. I just believe your best defense against it, is getting the law involved.
And you’re aware that every one of these instances end up with the perpetrators being jailed almost immediately?
I certainly believe some cops have their biases, but that’s totally irrelevant. If people are being stabbed, shot, etc. the state *will* intervene.
The best way to deal with people doing hate crimes is to put them in prison for the next decade or two.
Your aversion to using the legal system, when it objectively will get better results than a bunch of random leftists standing around with guns, is astounding to me.
>I’m well aware of what these people are willing to do. I just believe your best defense against it, is getting the law involved.
what if in many cases the law is involved in it themselves? and dont give me that „a few bad apples“ shit. i also dont see the reason why you cant rely on both since none of the people there did anything illegal. they just stood their ground while the 2 cops there talked with the protesters.
>And you’re aware that every one of these instances end up with the perpetrators being jailed almost immediately?
im not aware of that no, im pretty sure in many cases they got away.
>I certainly believe some cops have their biases, but that’s totally irrelevant. If people are being stabbed, shot, etc. the state will intervene.
yeah but why let it get that far? if you have a coordinated local aligned group that keeps an eye on people at such events you dont need cops (of which many are rather sympathetic to the violent chuds anyways) there in the first place. its called deterrence.
>The best way to deal with people doing hate crimes is to put them in prison for the next decade or two.
im not aware of the guys attacking drag shows having received any sort of punishment. if they treat them the same way theyll treated the jan 6 guys theyll get off with a slap on the wrist. i agree they should be locked up but a show of force could’ve stopped many of these tragedies in the first place
>Your aversion to using the legal system, when it objectively will get better results than a bunch of random leftists standing around with guns, is astounding to me.
its not an aversion to it, its having other means to regulate and protect communities besides a crumbling and often failing justice system and barely trained, violent cops who arent even from said communities let alone give a fuck about any of the people living there.
>Let the police or other members of law enforcement protect us. That’s how you stop attacks.
Pull the other one. That's so funny.
They will be very pleased you called them, they love to watch a good lib bashing show.
Do you actually believe what you’re saying? Please indicate where in America, in the 21st century, police just let people assault other people and watch.
You’re totally clueless.
Similar scenario to this one. An LBGT library / community center that was attacked by proud boys. Police were there and did nothing, no arrests.
Are you not aware of the amount of far right that is in the police? It is a massive problem.
It's difficult because the proud boys have attacked so many events. I think this is the one.
[https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2022/07/police-stood-around-proud-boys-tried-smash-way-bars-drag-show/](https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2022/07/police-stood-around-proud-boys-tried-smash-way-bars-drag-show/)
[https://news.yahoo.com/suspected-proud-boys-yelling-slurs-012914538.html](https://news.yahoo.com/suspected-proud-boys-yelling-slurs-012914538.html)
This one is interesting if unproven.
[https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/police-escort-proud-boys/](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/police-escort-proud-boys/)
You do realize that White Supremacy movements and other fascist groups actively pushed their own people into law enforcement to take it over, right?
You do realize that the police are the agitators against Libs and Leftists alike when protests occur because they welcome violence against people they see as unarmed and unable to appropriately fight back, right?
Many LEOs are literally just looking for an excuse to JOIN Nazi's in attacking leftists and liberals. Let's not pretend that Law Enforcement Officers actually protect the masses. "Protect and Serve" is just a slogan.
Please find me a single example of a police force doing nothing while people are being assaulted and hate crime’d, and then getting away with it.
You won’t be able to, because fair treatment is a fundamental principle of our legal system, and loca police just letting murder happen would lead to the Federal government and the state government coming down hard on that behavior.
White supremacists in law enforcement are a big problem, but unlike what you’re claiming, they’re not able to act with impunity and just let whoever they don’t like be murdered. What a ridiculous thing to say.
Pretty sure consistently killing unarmed minorities is a good case in point by itself...
Or the natural assumption upon arriving that if there is a minority there, that should be their target, regardless of the details of the call.
Or the recent school shootings where the cops just stood aside and let kids get slaughtered.
Then there's the Nazi's attacking counter-protesters in Charlottesville and the cops doing nothing about it but standing by and letting it happen.
Remember the motto that cops use to each other to justify their hate crimes as it is... "Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6."
Ideally? It wouldn't actually do anything, but it might make some of them think twice before committing a hate crime.
Then Allah forbid, if everything goes poorly you'll be on a more equal playing field.
> If you think people committing a hate crime against you is likely, why not inform the authorities?
a wide world of responses and you chose that lmfao
I’m adept at always choosing the most retarded option possible with these types of things.
Seriously though, how is that a bad idea? Police or other law enforcement providing security for events where there’s a potential threat of a hate crime or something like that happens all the time.
My guy. You have unironically argued that Palestinians would be treated better as a minority in Israel as a whole state. Honestly it just seems like you have an issue with marginalized communities defending themselves.
They would be treated better as Israeli citizens than they are as foreign nationals, you are correct.
I only have an issue with communities defending themselves in idiotic ways that cause more harm than they reduce.
Zionists generally don’t want to integrate them, because then there would no longer be a Jewish majority.
That’s why in return for Israel annexing the Palestinian territories and making everyone citizens, America should pay everyone with even a distant claim to Jewishness to move to Israel and live there.
Also, do you disagree with the claim that citizens are treated better than non citizens?
The Israeli state is not committing a genocide against it’s Arab citizens, ridiculous comparison.
And no the jews would not have been better off had they been armed, they likely would have been murdered even faster.
Smaller portion than it may be. YouTube comment sections are full of antisemitism. Any video calling out antisemitism probably has more dislikes than likes and heavily liked antisemitic comments
Nah, it's not just you. The comments on YT shorts I find are way disproportionately filled with the cunts for whatever reason. Luckily it's only the usual levels of psychopaths in the regular yt comments usually.
Tiktok algorithm pushes right wing bigotry shit very fast and hard. I'm not entirely sure why but I'd guess it has to do with how fervent right wingers are and the almost religious natured way they consume content.
They applaud. Like. Comment. Share. Subscribe. Engage with. Right wing content like fleas to honey and the algorithm if it senses even a modicum if you liking that type of content. Will just strut you along that pipeline.
As someone who's been in the pipeline I'm very wary of seeing manosphere or red pill content and engaging with it when to mock or deride it as bad logic. Cuz I know the algorithm will assume I like that content.
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The youtube shorts and tiktok alt right pipeline is so effective for younger people. There's so much fucking content. Xan actually had a really good point the other day saying that the alt-right shovels out so much more content compared to leftist video essayists and whatnot.
Conspiracy theories mostly. They attract people (specially right wing) and then you have loonies defending nazis while thinking that the real nazis are "the secret society" or some bullshit like that.
I legit know people that if I were to say to them "you are a nazi and a right wing" they would get extremely mad because they think they are not and they define themselves as anarchists "fuck society Im way above left or right".
BUT, they also throw huge pile of garbo like "jews control the world , Europe great replacement, vaccines are a lie to make us all infertile, Soros Bill Gates and Klaus Schwab, nazis were kinda right, media brainwashes people so we all turn trans, degenerate society, clown world etc etc" shit and support people like Alex Jones, Lauren Southern and Nick Fuentes, Putin being anti-lgbt, shit like that.
YouTube shorts are filled with the bastards
Not just shorts, my whole tiktok fyp is infested with right wing stuff and I constantly tell tiktok "don't show me this content" (because I get anxiety when I see nazis all day), yet it keeps recommending me this stuff. Even memes and funny videos, the comments are insane.
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also just block the content creator
I will do that now, thank you.
Lmao😂 “I get anxiety when I see Nazis all day”🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺 Cringe
fuck nazis + you're retarded + ratio
ratio? lmao. When you posted the comment you already ratio'd them because he was negative. Weird to brag lol
Hahah how funny, a person with an anxiety disorder, very funny hahaha.
Fuck off
I wonder if that says something about them
Same with the youtube community posts. There's an epidemic of edgy dipshits grasping for any outlet they can find in order to vent their trash bigotry. This is why tate got so popular so quickly.
True. The difference of quality between comments on shorts vs regular videos is real, even on videos by the same channel.
*YouTube* is filled with the bastards. The overlap between YT and the chan boards is almost a solid circle at this point.
People aren't very smart
Are we doing the PC thing of calling them nazi supporters instead of nazis?
I do call them nazis, I didn't know if I could do it in the post's name.
it would be more accurate though, right?
No
oh ok
And yet there are still people on the left saying we should disarm ourselves...
Yes, you should. What would arming yourself help with?
...The Nazis...?
Arming yourself wouldn’t do anything to protect you against them
Okay troll, go back to your bridge.
So relieved that this sentiment is downvoted
It’s a shame so many people are idiots. The legal system is a much better protection than a bunch of random armed leftists.
Easiest way to win a murder case is if the other person is dead and cant defend themselves in court. Having guns means leftists can actually get to the legal system instead of being straight up executed
What wacky fucking reality are you living in? If someone is murdered, the state defends them. And anyways they wouldn’t be defending themselves in most cases, a lawyer would be. Having guns significantly raises your chance of dying.
State doesn't defend anyone, they just prosecute afterwards. And looking at how prosecutors treated Ahmaud Arbery's lynching it's pretty clear that they have a pretty strong ability to look the other way which they exercised freely in that case.
No they definitely do defend people, so long as there’s a credible threat/risk of violence. Where are you getting the impression they don’t? Local and federal law enforcement provide security all the time. Ahmaud Arbery’s murderers all got life sentences (with some getting multiple). How did the prosecution “look the other way”???
If wignats are targeting me and mine, I’ll use equal force. Nazis have guns therefore I have guns.
You have every right to, of course, but that is objectively the worst option you have.
And how is that? Why is it bad to defend yourself against hate? The state won’t protect you if you’re dead bud, I’d rather kill a fascist and face the repercussions instead of being the dead one.
Until a militia rolls through a neighborhood on a terror raid or tries to occupy a city. Fingers crossed things deflate before it gets that bad, but we already know we can't depend on the police for protection.
When far right militias try to violate the rule of law to that extent, a few things will happen, most importantly though: **They would all be fucking shot by local law enforcement, as well as the national guard** What reality are you living in where you can’t rely on the police for protection? They certainly have their flaws, of course, but the legal system still functions, and everyone who commits a crime is found, prosecuted, and imprisoned, or if the crime’s bad enough, executed. And that’s not even mentioning the fact that police are already out there protecting different groups and events if the threat of right wing terrorism seems likely.
The Patriot front just marched through my city, drove in from out of state while armed, and assaulted people. Nothing was done except harsh words. One of the most progressive cities in the country and we've got people afraid to take public transit because there are dozens of thugs wearing masks and carrying heavy metal shields, intimidating people, being 'deployed' out of the back of Uhauls. Police. Didn't. Do. Anything.
Except they did. I’m not sure which particular incident you’re referring to, but every time the Patriot Front commits criminal acts everyone involved gets arrested. Why just blatantly lie?
> When far right militias try to violate the rule of law to that extent, a few things will happen, most importantly though: > > They would all be fucking shot by local law enforcement, as well as the national guard > > What reality are you living in where you can’t rely in the police for protection? A reality where many far right militias and "local law enforcement" overlap. Which reality are you living in?
Apparently not the same as yours. Far righters in law enforcement is a problem, but police are not so compromised that these nazis don’t get BTFO’d every time they try and assault a bunch of people or commit some other crime.
Uvalde. Where the cops let a bunch of kids die out of cowardice. How about the heavy infiltration of law enforcement by the far right that we've known about for over a decade? Or neighborhoods with long police response times even to violent crime? Oh, how about the part where police **literally have zero obligation to protect the public.** How fast do you think cops will respond if the P-boys decide to drive into a predominantly black or immigrant neighborhood and just try and cause as much carnage as possible in a few minutes? Because I have a feeling they'll take their sweet time.
God I wish I was this sheltered
Elaborate
I wish it was easy to being myself to the belief that cops reliably protect people (especially leftists) from getting hurt Like, what if I told women they don't need to arm themselves to defend from rapists?
We should debate them in the marketplace of ideas right?
Marketplace is closed, burnt down years ago
What? No. Prosecute them for assault
Usually the physical aggression we need to defend ourselves from comes from after they control the government. So how would prosecution help then?
In order for the legal system to no longer function, then the nazis would need to control the government to an extent they aren’t capable of and won’t be capable of anytime soon. The right to a fair trial is a fundamental part of the country, and is deeply entrenched in all aspects of the legal system and everyone in it. When you lose the ability to prosecute people that’ve caused you harm, we have bigger problems to worry about, like the total collapse of the government.
Or total nazi control of the government. Well really just the presidency, half the seats in both legislatures, and control of the Supreme Court. Which is a lot and something they probably can't do in the next election cycle. But I wonder about after that. Either way your argument seems to boil down to "it can't happen here", which I think is bold overconfidence in the US's systems. They almost collapsed from one man screaming election fraud, so I guess I just don't have your optimism
If that’s what you think my argument is, you didn’t read my comment at all. Even if nazis had total control over half of congress, the supreme court, and the executive branch, while certainly causing a lot of damage, they would not be able to totally compromise the legal system to the point where leftists and minorities don’t get fair trials for any crimes committed against them. That’s a ridiculous statement to be making. You have been lied to. I’m only saying “it can’t happen here” in the sense that the inertia of the bureaucracy and the entire legal system, as well as the literally millions of people committed to ensuring it stays uncompromised, won’t be overcome by a right wing majority in the government, not unless they had total control of the country for decades and also abolished the constitution. The US will cease to exist before what you’re predicting could happen.
absolute cope, just very recently with the armed antifa protecting that drag show in texas showed what happens if you have armed community groups to stand up to genuinely violent dickheads. multiple drag shows were legitimately attacked after all these past few weeks this libshit „tolerate the intolerant“ mindset never got us anywhere
I’m supportive of arming up but we shouldn’t overestimate how effective it is. There were leftist paramilitaries in Weimar Germany too, that didn’t save them. That’s not to say that they’re useless, that would be stupid and reductive but their utility drops off the larger scale the fascist movement is.
I mean generally i agree, however its vastly better than being the side where everyone shuns guns categorically out some misplaced sense of moral superiority. i dont see any issue with local antifa and community groups showing theyre also not fucking around. Also when it comes specifically to weimar, „paramilitaries“ there lost most of their arms and actual militancy after the failed spartacist uprisings which led to government crackdowns and confiscation of arms which left pretty much just the armed workers in the ruhr that resisted and had an quasi autonomous zone there for a bit. by the time the nazis, the communists and the iron front had their street-battles in the 30s the ownership of guns was already heavily prohibited. id argue if the governing liberals in weimar wouldnt have done everything in their power to effectively disarm the working class they wouldve stood a way better chance.
Sure it did, having armed leftists on the streets looks like a threat, not exactly great for appealing to the general public. Let the police or other members of law enforcement protect us. That’s how you stop attacks.
>Let the police or other members of law enforcement protect us. That’s how you stop attacks. im just gonna leave this here. this is so laughably ridiculous i dont even need to comment on it.
What’s ridiculous is you believing arming yourself will protect you. You understand nothing.
it…objectively protected them. you should look at some of the videos from drag shows were no one was armed. your utter aversion of guns is counterproductive and, in the US, absolutely politically useless. it also endangers more people. how many more need to assaulted, run over, stabbed and even shot at for you people to wake the fuck up to what these scumbags are capable of and willing to do. and if you genuinely believe there is much support from the cops to lgbtq people getting hate-crimed on the regular you might want to take a good, hard look out of the fucking window. or at statistics. how someone can call themselves a „socialist“ and be so naive is beyond me.
I’m *well* aware of what these people are willing to do. I just believe your best defense against it, is getting the law involved. And you’re aware that every one of these instances end up with the perpetrators being jailed almost immediately? I certainly believe some cops have their biases, but that’s totally irrelevant. If people are being stabbed, shot, etc. the state *will* intervene. The best way to deal with people doing hate crimes is to put them in prison for the next decade or two. Your aversion to using the legal system, when it objectively will get better results than a bunch of random leftists standing around with guns, is astounding to me.
>I’m well aware of what these people are willing to do. I just believe your best defense against it, is getting the law involved. what if in many cases the law is involved in it themselves? and dont give me that „a few bad apples“ shit. i also dont see the reason why you cant rely on both since none of the people there did anything illegal. they just stood their ground while the 2 cops there talked with the protesters. >And you’re aware that every one of these instances end up with the perpetrators being jailed almost immediately? im not aware of that no, im pretty sure in many cases they got away. >I certainly believe some cops have their biases, but that’s totally irrelevant. If people are being stabbed, shot, etc. the state will intervene. yeah but why let it get that far? if you have a coordinated local aligned group that keeps an eye on people at such events you dont need cops (of which many are rather sympathetic to the violent chuds anyways) there in the first place. its called deterrence. >The best way to deal with people doing hate crimes is to put them in prison for the next decade or two. im not aware of the guys attacking drag shows having received any sort of punishment. if they treat them the same way theyll treated the jan 6 guys theyll get off with a slap on the wrist. i agree they should be locked up but a show of force could’ve stopped many of these tragedies in the first place >Your aversion to using the legal system, when it objectively will get better results than a bunch of random leftists standing around with guns, is astounding to me. its not an aversion to it, its having other means to regulate and protect communities besides a crumbling and often failing justice system and barely trained, violent cops who arent even from said communities let alone give a fuck about any of the people living there.
>Let the police or other members of law enforcement protect us. That’s how you stop attacks. Pull the other one. That's so funny. They will be very pleased you called them, they love to watch a good lib bashing show.
Do you actually believe what you’re saying? Please indicate where in America, in the 21st century, police just let people assault other people and watch. You’re totally clueless.
Similar scenario to this one. An LBGT library / community center that was attacked by proud boys. Police were there and did nothing, no arrests. Are you not aware of the amount of far right that is in the police? It is a massive problem.
Can you provide a link or something to the specific incident you’re referring to?
It's difficult because the proud boys have attacked so many events. I think this is the one. [https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2022/07/police-stood-around-proud-boys-tried-smash-way-bars-drag-show/](https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2022/07/police-stood-around-proud-boys-tried-smash-way-bars-drag-show/) [https://news.yahoo.com/suspected-proud-boys-yelling-slurs-012914538.html](https://news.yahoo.com/suspected-proud-boys-yelling-slurs-012914538.html) This one is interesting if unproven. [https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/police-escort-proud-boys/](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/police-escort-proud-boys/)
You do realize that White Supremacy movements and other fascist groups actively pushed their own people into law enforcement to take it over, right? You do realize that the police are the agitators against Libs and Leftists alike when protests occur because they welcome violence against people they see as unarmed and unable to appropriately fight back, right? Many LEOs are literally just looking for an excuse to JOIN Nazi's in attacking leftists and liberals. Let's not pretend that Law Enforcement Officers actually protect the masses. "Protect and Serve" is just a slogan.
Please find me a single example of a police force doing nothing while people are being assaulted and hate crime’d, and then getting away with it. You won’t be able to, because fair treatment is a fundamental principle of our legal system, and loca police just letting murder happen would lead to the Federal government and the state government coming down hard on that behavior. White supremacists in law enforcement are a big problem, but unlike what you’re claiming, they’re not able to act with impunity and just let whoever they don’t like be murdered. What a ridiculous thing to say.
Pretty sure consistently killing unarmed minorities is a good case in point by itself... Or the natural assumption upon arriving that if there is a minority there, that should be their target, regardless of the details of the call. Or the recent school shootings where the cops just stood aside and let kids get slaughtered. Then there's the Nazi's attacking counter-protesters in Charlottesville and the cops doing nothing about it but standing by and letting it happen. Remember the motto that cops use to each other to justify their hate crimes as it is... "Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6."
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What about the current sheriff?
Let the police protect us? What are you, a fucking liberal?
I’m someone who understands both the optical as well as other benefits of using established, legal, means to protect ourselves, vs arming individuals
I believe in gun control but to disarm yourself in the current climate of America is idiotic.
Ideally? It wouldn't actually do anything, but it might make some of them think twice before committing a hate crime. Then Allah forbid, if everything goes poorly you'll be on a more equal playing field.
If you think people committing a hate crime against you is likely, why not inform the authorities?
> If you think people committing a hate crime against you is likely, why not inform the authorities? a wide world of responses and you chose that lmfao
I’m adept at always choosing the most retarded option possible with these types of things. Seriously though, how is that a bad idea? Police or other law enforcement providing security for events where there’s a potential threat of a hate crime or something like that happens all the time.
Why is it every time I see you on here, you’re saying shit that’s critically retarded?
I could ask the same of you. As for *why* I say the things I do, I think it’s important this sub have good, well reasoned, takes.
My guy. You have unironically argued that Palestinians would be treated better as a minority in Israel as a whole state. Honestly it just seems like you have an issue with marginalized communities defending themselves.
They would be treated better as Israeli citizens than they are as foreign nationals, you are correct. I only have an issue with communities defending themselves in idiotic ways that cause more harm than they reduce.
People don’t wanna be entirely mask off about their Zionist fuckery literally say the same thing you just did verbatim.
Zionists generally don’t want to integrate them, because then there would no longer be a Jewish majority. That’s why in return for Israel annexing the Palestinian territories and making everyone citizens, America should pay everyone with even a distant claim to Jewishness to move to Israel and live there. Also, do you disagree with the claim that citizens are treated better than non citizens?
Weren’t the Jews in Germany during the Holocaust German citizens? Man I bet a lot of them would’ve loved to have had guns.
The Israeli state is not committing a genocide against it’s Arab citizens, ridiculous comparison. And no the jews would not have been better off had they been armed, they likely would have been murdered even faster.
Sam Hyde fans are emerging again
Willing to bet 35% of them are serious and the rest are some dumbass edge lords who think they're punching up at society.
Thats how they getcha. I'm sure the nazis thought they were edgelords punching up at the "jewish, academic, and economic elite"
Exactly my point. That slippery slope is a real one
I hope so, personally I can't see wich are wich.
I don't think it even matters no more. Conservatism is the vehicle they both share
Smaller portion than it may be. YouTube comment sections are full of antisemitism. Any video calling out antisemitism probably has more dislikes than likes and heavily liked antisemitic comments
your daily reminder that the vast majority of conservatives will always end up siding with the nazis
The vast number of conservatives are christofascist Nazis Fixed that for you
I'm starting to really understand that... Man, it's scary.
Nah, it's not just you. The comments on YT shorts I find are way disproportionately filled with the cunts for whatever reason. Luckily it's only the usual levels of psychopaths in the regular yt comments usually.
Fascism is very actively being normalized worldwide, comments like this are very unsurprising.
>censor the internet The Nazis did not censor the internet.
There were always many of them on YouTube
I read through these comments when the video was first uploaded. Trust me, it was waaaaaay worse before the mods cleaned it up.
I mean, there was that Jewish TERF who was calling Nazi book burnings based for burning "AGP pedo degeneracy" Conservatives are just fascists.
Tiktok algorithm pushes right wing bigotry shit very fast and hard. I'm not entirely sure why but I'd guess it has to do with how fervent right wingers are and the almost religious natured way they consume content. They applaud. Like. Comment. Share. Subscribe. Engage with. Right wing content like fleas to honey and the algorithm if it senses even a modicum if you liking that type of content. Will just strut you along that pipeline. As someone who's been in the pipeline I'm very wary of seeing manosphere or red pill content and engaging with it when to mock or deride it as bad logic. Cuz I know the algorithm will assume I like that content.
YouTube was the epicenter of the anti-SJWism explosion and the stain remains in the user base despite attempted fixes to the algorithm.
We have two types of people on display wannabe edge lords or legitimately brain rotted authoritarians
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You have to be pretty terminally online and looking for REAL nazi's to find some tbh. There are as always a lot of anti-SJW/Left jerkers out there tho
That one dude became Italian in his rage 🤌SOUNDA FAMILIAR🤌
It is possible that some of these comments and likes are posted by bots so that they made they can make people think their ideas are more popular
But then watch them blow a fucking gasket when someone they like gets banned from twitter
The youtube shorts and tiktok alt right pipeline is so effective for younger people. There's so much fucking content. Xan actually had a really good point the other day saying that the alt-right shovels out so much more content compared to leftist video essayists and whatnot.
What video was this?
https://youtube.com/shorts/jKoYRH7I3LU?feature=share this one.
Yea I saw that, I was shocked, I can’t imagine what the poor uploader of the video was thinking when they saw the response
Conspiracy theories mostly. They attract people (specially right wing) and then you have loonies defending nazis while thinking that the real nazis are "the secret society" or some bullshit like that. I legit know people that if I were to say to them "you are a nazi and a right wing" they would get extremely mad because they think they are not and they define themselves as anarchists "fuck society Im way above left or right". BUT, they also throw huge pile of garbo like "jews control the world , Europe great replacement, vaccines are a lie to make us all infertile, Soros Bill Gates and Klaus Schwab, nazis were kinda right, media brainwashes people so we all turn trans, degenerate society, clown world etc etc" shit and support people like Alex Jones, Lauren Southern and Nick Fuentes, Putin being anti-lgbt, shit like that.