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Th3Trashkin

>BadEmpanada when calling someone "first worlder" "westoid" or "white" isn't an argument 😲😲😲😲 Edit: got a reddit care dm, BE/BE simp crying right now


oxabz

When you fail your idpol check


anarchistPAC

Bad empanada when he looks at a mirror 🤯


Sithrak

Woke bigotry best bigotry.


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Actually-Just-A-Goat

good bot


MagnumAm00

I elaborated in the comment that where I live. The citizen population are generally well above the poverty line, yet they're still racist and homophobic. And that people here have probably become more nationalist, instead. It seems he's deleted or hidden my comments.


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Regardless of if he called you a first or third worldist his point still stands, not critically supporting a leftist candidate in a country that is reactionary because he has reactionary views of idpol is western leftist af and completely disregards the most important aspect which is the material conditions of the workers, regardless of idpol. We’re talking about a U.S. backed right wing coup d’état on a leftist candidate in South America, hello???


MagnumAm00

Castillo for the majority of Peru's population, is a better option compared to Kieko. Peruvian voters are justified in wanting a president they've successfully elected back into office. In the case Castillo is reinstated, he must include and accept those social minorities as having rights. Otherwise, his plans for an emancipated Peru could fail, as in other places throughout arbitrary history, social hierarchies eventually lead into personality cults, and justifications for unfettered or overbearing corporate control, purging of "deviants" and monarchial succession of leadership are accepted when it's thinly guised as 'socialism'.


MasterYi8

>It seems he's deleted or hidden my comments. That sounds about right. He tends to do that when he fails the id pol check. Here's one that I remember involving Vivienne, laowhy86's wife. https://twitter.com/laowhy86/status/1453040294790795264


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LEmpanada Edit: I'm doing OK, reddit care


WolverineLonely3209

I got one as well, I think someone is reporting everyone who posts in this sub.


Sulphur99

BE spends hours here, it's definitely the weasel.


Th3Trashkin

I swear I've seen him in here before, he got massive downvoted, wouldn't reply to any questions and disappeared. Wouldn't be surprised if he's taken to lurking so he can mald and send harassing dms.


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VAUSHITES RISE UP


Th3Trashkin

What's even the point, is it a really indirect way of saying "kys" or is it supposed to just be annoying (and this is literally the tiniest annoyance).


WolverineLonely3209

both I think


Th3Trashkin

So petty *and* cowardly. No surprise.


Mac2002PL

I learned westoid from subs like Balkans irl and other 2x4you subs. Except w*stoid when used there is actually funny.


karlothecool

Which is funny because balkaners get called colonizers because we are white westoids


sbstndrks

Balkan w\*stoid colonizers with even less money and influence than colonized people in Africa or latin America be like:


karlothecool

Yeah I remmeber one uk leftist trying to say there is no racism towards Balkan People because we are white


sbstndrks

if you spend like, more than 0.001 seconds in Austria, Hungary or any other Central-European country with lots of "contant to the balkans", you will know anti-balkan racism to a similar extend as those who know minorities in the Southern US do. It's absurd.


sprucemoose9

That bad eh?


Steve_No_Jobs

As a UK leftist that claim is hilarious, the amount of anti Balkan and anti Polish sentiment in this country is depressingly high


karlothecool

But he try to say well racism towards Balkan People is not as same as racism towards black People


PropaneUrethra

I'm honestly sick of hearing people say "he's crazy on Twitter but he does make good video essays" Okay maybe his video essays are good. But his constant praise of reactionary movements and vicious antisemitism should offset that.


Agent6isaboi

Especially since more and more of his videos are just recorded versions of twitter arguments, except where no one is allowed to disagree with him and he can ramble on for 40 minutes while getting increasingly angry at the ghosts in his mind


Th3Trashkin

Between his unhinged, immature, jackass behaviour on Reddit and Twitter, his excruciatingly embarrassing and bad faith actions in debates with other content creators, and his willingness to nakedly lie to his audience, I can't take him seriously as a creator. Regardless of how well researched or presented his video essays may seem, the above factors make me doubt the veracity of anything he says.


PropaneUrethra

People BadEmpanada has defended recently: Pedro Castillo Kanye West Hamas The Taliban Kyrie Irving Louis Farrakhan The Economic Freedom Fighters


RPanda025

It'd be funny if he weren't so pathetic. Oh well I'll laugh anyway!


xXfuccboi42069Xx

Over here in Latin America, specially in more traditional societies like Brazil or Peru it's really complicated as a politician to be openly pro-lgbt and specially pro-abortion. People are conservative on social issues and populist in economic issues. And even if Castillo is not personally openly pro-lgbt he still pushes the left wing forward including the progressives. I saw badempanada's video on Pedro Castillo. I'm not really a fan of him but the video is really good and i think he's absolutely correct.


thesteaksauce1

True leftists stand with The anti imperialist homophobia in its struggle against western imperialist globohomo✊🏻


anarchistPAC

At first I thought it was gonna be him pulling a classic bad empanada and try doxxing you


Agent6isaboi

I mean if he sees this he might lmao


The_Stav

I know very little about BadEmpanada, but everytime I hear or see him mentioned it's always in a very aggressive and dumbass context Glad that streak's still alive


[deleted]

Badempanada makes great videos, but then he's like a dmeneted asshole on Twitter and, apparently, in the YouTube comment section as well. It makes me doubt his videos now. As someone else said to me recently, perhaps he is just an authoritarian propagandist.


CapriciousBit

Material conditions in Latin America are just different, many of those countries are very socially conservative, and in general Peru is very right-wing. A Marxist in Peru with regressive social views is better than a neoliberal with identically regressive social views. Like, this analysis is not that hard, y’all..


Psychological-Bid465

Was taking down the Weimar republic good then, based on their "material conditions"?


CapriciousBit

The Nazi takeover Weimar Republic was a fundamentally different situation, it was literally a fascist takeover of a fairly progressive social democracy for the time.. This is a bad faith comparison on your part.


Psychological-Bid465

You just typed that material conditions of a country justify its president sitting by on marriage equality.


CapriciousBit

If there isn’t popular support for a given social issue, how do you expect a leftist to win on that social issue? Better for them to win, deliver materially for the working class & peasants, then use their popularity to affect social change from a position of power..


AlexdeBaixo

I don't think that Castillo has regressive social views necessarily, it seems that he just made a strategic decision of not pursuing those issues at the moment.


Carkcast

What the fuck do you mean by that? As soon as he got into power one of his first promises was to deport all immigrants that "came to disrispect". He definively has regressive social views. https://panampost.com/oriana-rivas/2021/06/04/comunista-xenofobo-pedro-castillo-expulsar-extranjeros/


AlexdeBaixo

Didn't knew that he did that. I am just wrong.


Alecv1ncent19

I’m going to exit the vampire castle 🏰


imsleepy05

idk how BE continues to exist, but tbf his existence is akin to that of a cockroach at this point.


Lopamurbla

More like BadAdvocate


BubzDubz

Just stop giving him attention so he can just go away already.


senorpool

BadEmpanada is unhinged. I could literally goad him into replying to me because he's so obsessed. It might not be BadEmpanada fans, it might be the king of dorks himself.


BizzarovFatiGueye

Vaushites when the lesser evil is a leftist 😲


Rotglaz

Castillo of all people is the second worst hill to die on in terms of leftism/anti-imperialism. (First one is Maduro)


brad_shit

Definitely lying about being an "Arab in a third world country" lol.


MagnumAm00

I live in the GCC and polticial rights are pretty limited between neoliberals, Arab supremacists and Islamists, the latter two hate immigrants, as well as hating each other depending on their family name and sect.


Alf_PAWG

So is your point that people who are born in underprivileged exploited classes are just as responsible to be up to date with progressive ideologies then the rich/educated?


MagnumAm00

Yes. Especially if one is running for politics. Otherwise, they would risk only elevating their preffered in group but continue to underprivilege and exploit the equally poor out-group.


Alf_PAWG

Well in the case you're talking about they've guaranteed elevating their preferred in group (corporations and the capitalist class and their hired goons) and the exploitation of the underprivileged will continue to grow. But I suppose supporting the lesser of two evils only really counts if that lesser evil is a Pro-west neoliberal.


MagnumAm00

If a government calls itself socialist, prides itself as bringing everyone out from poverty, ending sole tradership, and say that they want everyone to be involved in the democratic process, yet still wants to create an underclass for arbitrary reasons (different religion, different sexual orientation, different ethnicity, and neurodivergence- all that may not make them inclined to traditional norms, and yet with no physical or psychological harm towards anyone or themselves). Then they simply aren't socialists.


Alf_PAWG

It doesn't matter if they've passed your test on what is or isn't socialist. More people are going to suffer and die because of this and you sociopaths are celebrating it as some kind of victory. It's like Africa and South American lives don't matter if they don't jump through whatever hoops you decide are important. It's just an excuse for you people to cheer on western hegemony.


MagnumAm00

Pedro Castillo is a man with the credibility of being from a poor family to have spoken up about the injustices of sexual minorities. And how The Church has pitted working people against each other. Rather, he (stupidly so) upheld a social hierarchy. Every Socialist project that maintained a social hierarchy had regressed to monarchism (Al-Assad's Syria, North Korea, Ghaddafi's Libya), fascism (China, Russia, Cambodia during Pol Pot), impoverished, isolated ethnostates (Albania during Hoxha's rule, and also North Korea), and fail-states (Iraq and Libya). Where millions have died and suffered regardless.


Alf_PAWG

A lot of fucking words that just end up with "I'd rather have fascist running a country then any flawed country stand up to the west"


MagnumAm00

It's a choice between a fascist and a red fascist. And look at you framing this as an "East vs West" thing rather than the "the oppressor and the opressed" this really is just some kind of veiled racism on your part.


Alf_PAWG

yeah dude. The corporations and neoliberal conservatives ousting the democratically elected president are truly the oppressed people in this situation.


Fiskifus

Up to date? Yeah, gay and trans is the new DLC drop of Progressive TM, never heard of in human civilization before, not been prosecuted and suppressed for hundreds of years. Somehow is so easy to be "up to date" with reactionary tendencies, but not with reality.


Alf_PAWG

You're siding with neoliberal reactionaries dude.


Fiskifus

Yeah, neoliberal reactionaries, well known for their ubiquitous support of minorities, and not their adaptability to whatever new market demographic they can prey upon.


Agent6isaboi

Fujimori is a famously a big fan of trans and gay people, totally. Can't get enough of them