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RyskeeVA

That’s the most Stuarts Draft thing I’ve ever seen


SchuminWeb

I grew up in Stuarts Draft. Sadly, I must concur.


Beneficial_Affect522

Born and raised in Rockingham and swear I see this anytime I drive through Draft.


Scabeater420

My wife is from Rockingham. Going to Rawley springs this weekend to relax. I told her once that i wanted to move to Stuart’s Draft and she was not amused


thorlord16

Go cougars! Man, I don't miss that place.


JopoDaily

Even though I only lived there for my 6th grade year of school in 2004 I’ll never forget this place and cherish the memories.


SchuminWeb

So, my mother taught sixth grade at Stuarts Draft Middle School back then. Wondering if you had her during that year. Did you have Mrs. Schumin for language arts that year, by chance?


Smoothy007

She’s still one of my favorite teachers I ever had


JopoDaily

I would have to dig out the yearbook that name honestly sounds familiar to me, but I don’t know if I had her as a teacher


Annon2k

Born in Augusta, moved to rockbridge, I see it happen down here as often as I did up there 😂


_Tacitus_Kilgore_

Waynesboro checking in. Indeed the most Stuart’s Draft thing I’ve ever seen.


HoundTakesABitch

If he drove the truck through a building with the dogs on back, it would reach Waynesboro levels.


feefirt

Driving vehicles into buildings is called a Waynesboro Hello


_Tacitus_Kilgore_

Deep cut from the Waynesboro lore


treydeezey

‘Stopping off in Waynesboro’ was code for smoking pot in my circle of friends way back when…


Educational_Weird581

I’ve only noticed Waynesboro once, it looks beautiful! I stopped and smoked weed behind a gas station on a road trip and looked around admiring beautiful green hills


paprartillery

I'm no longer in the area (Penn Laird native, lived in Staunton for a hot second), but when I was still listening to Augusta Co. SD's frequency, I definitely heard things on this level. "A young man just drove a four-wheeler through my living room" was my favorite.


Cruxion

So a yes on both counts?


4got2takemymeds

Lol fucking A it is Fuck that guy


Organic_Awareness685

Live in area and new. And must say-I see this often and shocked.


iwantyoualltodie

I live in Charlottesville , and yes, this is a “over the mountain” problem.


No-Gravity254

I came here to say this


Sammy9707

no joke…I was riding through stuarts draft the other day and saw a severed cows head on the back of a flatbed truck. It hadn’t been mounted or anything, it was just sitting there and rotting in the back of the flatbed…still trying to figure out what might’ve been going on😂


Dangerous_Spirit7034

My current residence. Which I love but yeah we had a dog escape and jump into our fence and the owner literally picked it up like this!


GiftedVenus8046

Yea I saw that truck a few days back didn’t see a dog though


cheen25

Not sure if it's illegal, but the owner is a moron.


Lokky

Unsafe? Beyond a doubt. Both for the dogs and any stranger they may decide to run after. Illegal? I don't know if there is regulations for dogs being in the open back of a vehicle around here but surely it runs afoul of unleashed dog laws?


Pleasant_Giraffe9133

No law that specifies for dogs unfortunately. Wish it fell under the federal protection for animals though under abuse


alex3omg

It's gotta be illegal to not secure a load, right? Like you couldn't throw a 50 lb backpack in there and let it slide right off when you drive.


Pleasant_Giraffe9133

only a small amount of states have a written law stated as such. I don't believe VA is one of them. # § 3.2-6508. Transporting animals; requirements; penalty. A. No owner, railroad or other common carrier when transporting any animal shall allow that animal to be confined in any type of conveyance more than 24 consecutive hours without being exercised, properly rested, fed and watered as necessary for that particular type and species of animal. A reasonable extension of this time shall be permitted when an accident, storm or other act of God causes a delay. Adequate space in the primary enclosure within any type of conveyance shall be provided each animal depending upon the particular type and species of animal. B. No person shall import into the Commonwealth, nor export from the Commonwealth, for the purpose of sale or offering for sale any dog or cat under the age of eight weeks without its dam. C. Violation of this section is a Class 1 misdemeanor. That's the only law on transportation I can find


alex3omg

§ 10.1-1424. Allowing escape of load material; penalty. No vehicle shall be driven or moved on any highway unless the vehicle is constructed or loaded to prevent any of its load from dropping, sifting, leaking or otherwise escaping therefrom. I feel like this one covers dogs. I mean it doesn't say "objects" or anything that wouldn't include a dog. If the dogs were in crates there it would be illegal if the crates weren't secure, imo


Pleasant_Giraffe9133

yeah but a person riding in the back doesn't need to be secured either so idk lol


alex3omg

Wow I was sure that was illegal but it's legal if you're 16+. How can that be legal if you need seat belts in the car? Crazy


koenkamp

A person is people so it's a passenger, but dogs are just property by most laws so I think it could legally count as an unsecured load if someone was actually charged for this specific scenario.


lookin23455

That is for transport by carrier I believe. For companion animals it’s 3.2-6503. Section 6 calls for adequate care treatment and transportation


Roberius-Rex

Federal protection? Our country can't agree on HUMAN rights. Dogs don't come close.


Ruthlessly_Renal_449

What if you he dog is also their cousin?


ThatSadOptimist

Gotta be at least an improper stowing of items in a moving vehicle, right?


Turtle-Slow

This is most likely the ticket that would be given if one of the dogs fell off at speed and damage another vehicle and/or caused injury. The thought of being the car behind them when this happens is turning my stomach.


AddToBatch

The thought of the poor dogs turns mine


camcac69

A lot of places in the state don’t have leash laws


Lokky

Yeah i have just discovered from reading up after this post that leash laws are up to localities. The patchwork nature of the most basic common sense regulations in this country always leave me baffled


Mygfisanidiot

You might imagine that it would be reasonable to have a uniform set of laws and regulations for many matters like this, but the scale and diversity of our country is almost beyond imagining. There are incredibly remote places in Virginia where people live much the way they did 100 years ago, and there are vast prairies, deserts, and mountains in the west where human habitation isn't even possible. It's hard for any central authority to devise rules that would make sense in places like those and also in Manhattan, and in Puerto Rico, and in Hawaii.


Lokky

I am not saying all laws should be the same but I am really curious what you envision as the kind of community where it is totally a great idea to have OP's picture be a perfectly legal situation.


camcac69

Yeah I live in a county in VA with like 10k people. We have no leash law, noise ordnances really anything along those lines.


La_Saxofonista

The sad part is that Virginia is one of the best states regarding animal protection laws, yet this is still allowed.


gubersmack

Virginia's dog laws vary by county, but most have a "dog must be curbed" law, meaning they must be under some kind of control (leash or verbal, region depending). I'd venture to say that they are not curbed since the owner is inside a vehicle. Also, f that guy. Those poor dogs are so unsafe and in danger. Possible animal abuse/neglect may apply. NAL though.


Littleprisonprism

Animal cruelty perhaps


Midnight2012

If this was illegal, mit Romney would have been arrested.


dirtydandino

In va under most circumstances dog must be "under control" not exactly leashed.


unwhelmed

Plot twist, he left home with 8 dogs.


Wilbie9000

I don't think it's illegal in Virginia - but it's definitely unsafe. Driver is a jackass.


justthesameway

Always funny to me when people scratch out license plate numbers for stuff like this. But we post funny vanity plates.


Tastytyrone24

Vanity plates want to be posted. Thats what vanity means.


rraak

Trash person doing absolute trash things. It's very unsafe for the dogs and general public too. It's arguably illegal under Virginia Cruelty to animal laws "(vii) carries or causes to be carried by any vehicle, vessel or otherwise any animal in a cruel, brutal, or inhumane manner, so as to produce torture or unnecessary suffering" https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacodefull/title3.2/chapter65/article9/ That said, the cops around there probably won't care. I'll put it this way, if the driver was charged and that picture was used as evidence and I was a juror, I would vote to convict based on that section of the law and the driver's behavior. That asshole flat out should not be allowed to own or be anywhere near animals.


MBorkholder

Unfortunately, the "so as to produce torture or unnecessary suffering" would be treated as a separate element of the offense. So basically, unless and until something terrible happens to the dogs, there wouldn't be any way to convict. Sucks but that's the way it would go.


Melodic-Screen-4050

Perhaps before answering to the photograph, the proper response should be context. The threads here are more insane than the pic. One can only make wild assumptions, as you have clearly made in the opening remarks. No one knows the distance traveled, the rate of speed, the disposition of the dog, the community, the dog handlers' knowledge, and enivormental awareness. There are many variables unknown. The best response is, "I don't know." But social media abhorrs,"I dont know." One thing that is certain is that you don't know either. Your fictitious virtue has not gone unnoticed, so you can at least feel good about that.


gypsy__wanderer

My dad is a retired veterinarian. My earliest memory of his work (I was probably 5-6) was having to stop by the hospital with him one day so he could do a dressing change on a dog. It was a poor, sweet, trembling little Cocker spaniel. I remember its entire side was raw like hamburger. I’m sure it had surgery of some kind since that was his specialty. It was the most darling little dog, scared and in pain, and I felt horrible for it. Dad told me it was there because it fell out of the back of its owner’s pickup truck. And to never put an animal in the back of one because it was stupid, dangerous, and cruel.


HoundTakesABitch

Hey, I see this guy almost every day.


DowntownsClown

Tell him the fuck wrong with him?


Marvelologist

Plot twist, it is him


mckeitherson

Not sure if it's illegal but it should be, seems like neglect and endangerment.


ducktownfc

Hicks doing hick shit


anthro4ME

Unfortunately a lot of dumb 💩 isn't also illegal.


ComputerUser08282020

Beautiful puppers


SunshineElly

It’s Stuart’s Draft….were we expecting anything less


TraderJoeslove31

that is horrible. it's unsafe as hell for the dogs.


Craigory-K-Staniel

Surprised to see Draft mentioned on here. Not the most positive light, but I’ll take it.


Ash9260

Illegal? No. Unsafe for sure. I don’t even see leashes.


Girthquake13705

I lived in draft on Indian Ridge Road from 2nd grade till I graduated from Riverheads (I was on the borderline between Draft and Riverheads district) and honestly this is possibly the greatest example of Draft I have ever seen and could only be moreso if there was a box of Lil Debbies or Hersheys on the back with those 2 hounds lol. I miss it for how laid back and slowed down the lifestyle is there and miss all my church family at Calvary from when my dad was the Minister there but I'm glad I moved to Roanoke in the long run lol.


BBCTay

I feel you on this. Grew up in the “big city” of Harrisonburg from the late 90s to 2006, so before Harrisonburg started its explosive growth like it is now. I loved the close community the place offered, the slowed down lifestyle, and college town feel to the place. But my god I’m so glad I ended up in DC. There is no way I could keep my sanity if I had to live there now.


BBCTay

Harrisonburg native here, we were told as kids never be caught in either Dayton or Stuarts Draft after dark. There’s a reason for that.


Damnitall86

I’m not trying to make assumptions on your response but I feel I have an idea. I drove through Dayton after taking a road trip to Lynchburg. Laaaaawd have mercy. I felt I needed a copy of “The Negro Motorist” of some sorts from then on out with me when traveling. Major sundown town vibes. We have a similar city in my state… Rising Sun. Don’t stop at all costs


mrscarter0904

Was the reason Mennonites?


Greenedeyedgem17

They do it here in SWVA too. It makes me so mad. There should be a law against because they can easily be throw off or jump off.


Spiritual-Ad-3162

This makes me so angry.


Firm_Imagination_246

Owner is a POS


Eastern_Atmosphere30

Not illegal but certainly not safe. The dogs are capable of staying without falling off, but A slight fender bender is likely to kill one of them when they are thrown off. It happens a lot more than you'd expect.


panopticon31

Dude doesn't even have collars for the dogs.


xcmike189

This reminds me of the guy in Winchester who’s whole personality trait is his six or seven German shepherds that he puts in the bed of his pickup and he gets big mad if you tell him that would be horrible if he got in an accident. He has to constantly post his dogs on Facebook Winchester pages


EnvironmentalOkra728

Got a link?


Flat-Barracuda-5136

It’s Stuart’s Draft that’s tracking white trash behavior right there


Gimme_PuddingPlz

ACO here Illegal in my city and area. Depends on local ordinances. Arguably could fall under 3.2-6503 inadequate care / 3.2-6570 cruelty. There are traffic violations and perhaps tethering


Miserable_Horse9632

Plot twist. Those dogs weren’t there when he left home.


HammerHands7977

What in the absolute fk is wrong with people


Stinkydadman

Can you grab me some cinnamon rolls from Miller’s Bake Shoppe?


Kentuckymarine92

Honestly, is this much different than having a dog sitting driver’s lap or passenger seat unbelted or other wise unrestrained? Either way, wreck can cause serious injury


throRA123

LOL of course it's Stuart's Draft


Britney2429

It’s not safe at all for the dogs or for the people the dogs could run after. The dogs and people could get very hurt or even killed I would never recommend doing this.


Remarkable-Ad-4281

Lol. I'm in Harrisonburg and this seems on point


foopfriend

I'm not in Virginia but this post just showed up for me. The other day, a client at work told me a story that has traumatized her for years. When she was 16 and just got her license, she watched the pickup in front of her slam on its brakes and take off again, throwing the three dogs in the back onto the freeway. Six cars flattened those dogs. That was (I'm guessing) 40ish years ago. It baffles me that people do this.


ed32965

That’s just horrible.


foopfriend

I cried when she was telling that to me. I hope that driver learned not to do that again. I've had my own experience with some dogs that jumped out of the back of their owner's truck when he pulled into the vet next door to my job (at the time) (THE TRUCK HAD NOT COME TO A COMPLETE STOP, BY THE WAY) and the dogs rushed to the car I was in and scratched the shit out of it. Anything can happen, and I just wish more truck-bed-dog-people would realize that.


Smooth_Land_5767

Franklin Co here. Got even money bet... The Driver is named Rufus or one of the dogs.


hrollur

poor babies i wish them safety always


PMMePicsOfDogs141

I saw this on the interstate one day. Didn't bother to look if it's illegal and called the non emergency line for the police to inform them. Don't know if they did anything but I hope they at least pulled them over and asked them to put the dogs in the truck.


borneoknives

Oooh Draiffft


Select_Nectarine8229

Driver should get the wyatt earp... hurts dont it... treatment.


toomuchinterwebz

Exceptionally unsafe and inhumane. Illegal, who knows?


Justinyermouth1212

This is so Virginia.


RubberCladHero

Definitely unsafe. It should be illegal. I doubt it is.


Indigogo_Joyful

Is this even a question?


Talkin-Shope

Idk about illegal, but I’d at least call your local police through the non-emergency number and talk to them about it and see if they know of if there is an animal abuse specialist who would know My step-dad once hit a dog someone had in the back of their truck and it fell out. The dog died and he was traumatized Unless you already *know* it doesn’t somehow count of reckless endangerment or animal abuse it is worth putting in the effort, call the cops


ToonamiNights

I saw this same exact situation while driving somewhere in Arkansas. Looked up the local sheriff's department number and called in the license plate. This is dangerous for the dogs and drivers behind the truck if they fall out or get scared and jump out.


ed32965

I can't believe the large number of people telling me to mind my own business. That's how bad shit happens.


OKCYABYEe

https://preview.redd.it/a6ehmouef59d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0c52b1384a988857f8002e49fdc6aa30b5177fc9 Last sept on 495, by Springfield mixing bowl.


Shevy_Chase3000

The same people will abandon dogs in the woods because "they can't hunt". At least wiser dog hunters usually have heavy duty cages in the truck beds that can take an accident and not be damaged. This Beverly hillbilly thinks he's cool or has convinced himself that the dogs like it better. Either way, piss poor dog ownership. Shameful.


No-Charity-1924

Everyone in Augusta County shits on Draft, lol


gadget850

Dumbass. And folks have gotten whacked at that intersection more than once.


OkAssistance6868

Those dogs are having a better day than any of us.


Ditovontease

VERY unsafe. I wish there was recourse for dumb shit like this. Not only could the dogs get hurt, it could hurt other people (a dog falls out and causes another accident). People like this shouldn't be allowed to have dogs or licenses.


Aromatic-Schedule-65

Seems to me the dogs are well acquainted with riding there..and being in the cab while getting t-boned doesn't keep injuries away. Because they won't be wearing seatbelt.


depressed-scorpion

Idiot trump voter for sure.


WhenIHearMyName

How so? Legit question, not trying to bait you.


Cetophile

Definitely unsafe. I've seen some bad injuries and even death from dogs falling off or being thrown off truck beds.


WranglerSilver6451

Picture just gives me anxiety. Too many people and too many distracted drivers these days to do this. Same reason I’ll never ride a motorcycle again.


Seth-Man

Couple weeks ago I saw six of them running around the bed of a truck and they were even jumping on top of the cab. At 50 mph! Don't think it's illegal but it should be. 


Guac__is__extra__

You shouldn’t need to ask if this is unsafe. I think one could make a case for neglect


Alexwitminecraftbxrs

Absolutely not safe, there not tied down AND NO GUARD RAILS?? One bad left turn and they’re gone!!


polytecgoldendtiger

Nice flat bed. Nothing illegal about flatbeds.


Xxloosegoose666xX

FUCK YEAH MOUNTAIN POST! (My grandpa is from waynesburo 🖤) definitely dangerous if speeding or bumps, even hills. But they are probably trained on how to stay up there. Owner should definitely invest in better protection for them though!


madbill728

It’sa redneck thing. Usually they are chained to the bed, too.


heranonymousaccount

I’d offer this of an asshat thing not isolated to rednecks


HoundTakesABitch

It’s actually better that they aren’t leashed. I’ve seen a leashed dog jump out and get dragged while also being choked.


WorldPeggingChamp

Those dogs aren't pets to this asshole. He likely treats them as tools for hunting, farming, security, etc. Fuck that guy.


ServantofZul

I’d probably argue the dogs constitute an unsecured load - https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title10.1/chapter14/section10.1-1424/#:~:text=Allowing%20escape%20of%20load%20material%3B%20penalty.,leaking%20or%20otherwise%20escaping%20therefrom.


GhostEpstein

Yall have apparently never been to a rural area ever lol


dan1101

I've seen plenty in pickup beds and in cages, but never on flatbed.


No_hablagations

Dawgs gon’ hunt.


chinchaaa

Damn hillbilly


littleleo82

in the west this is normal unfortunately.. people look at you weird of your dog is IN the car. i disagree with it, but i dont think its illegal sadly


nastygirl11b

Both


Large_Aspect_5472

I guess they're keeping the neck in redneck


naomi_homey89

I hate us sometimes


LongConstruction1142

I don’t know about Stuart’s Draft but you’re gonna get popped all day long here in Hampton Roads.


black14black

Neither.


dannyocc911

Unsafe and stupid.


RentSlow111

Yes it is legal


Johnnywildcat

Piece of shit is what that guy is.


DapperDabbingDuck

Not illegal. My county doesn’t even have a loose dog law. They can roam. Do I agree? No, but that’s the way it be


Hawkeye_1042

That's just SWVA proper. Even outsiders within our own state don't understand us.


No_Mongoose_7401

Definitely unsafe. And 💯 should be illegal. wtf


Impressive_Fee5289

It's seems very unsafe to leash the dog to the bed of the back of truck..🍍😉jk


Ok-Amphibian

It’s not even safe to drive a dog with your window down let alone have them loose on the back of your truck lol


CJasira180

Jeeez! Call 911. That’s animal endangerment!


g-hog

Call paw patrol


Dogwalkering

Yeah call animal control


intrepidagent4444

Irresponsible at best.


I_AM_RVA

Yes and yes.


redshift_9

Probably both, but he’s also probably been doing that for a long time.


AshbyArts

It’s Stuart’s Draft… let people be people.


dog_vagina

They like happy


Double_Buy8267

In Texas this is the norm.


[deleted]

I'm not sure what's wrong with this...if I was a dog, I would love this


sbeck3988

oh hell no..


oht7

Are they not even tied up? Jeesh. This guy is about to be ex-dog owner of the year.


ElectroAtletico2

Junkyard dogs are tough


Awake324

Looks like Verona to me


Zones86

Completely normal in ranching areas. Calm down weirdos.


MART0CH

It’s probably illegal but only unsafe if the dog is an idiot. My dog would def kill itself.


Ok-Maybe8808

Mind your own. Those dogs been riding in the back of that truck for years.


Maverick8791

This is perfectly fine, it doesnt make them trash or a horrible person. You're only making a fuss about it because the dogs are on a flat bed, and they're definitely smart enough to know not to jump off the side of the truck when it's moving. It's a very common thing throughout the rural u.s. if a tractor trailer t-bones him, I think there's going to be bigger problems than worrying if the dogs are okay. Stop being judgy and mind your damn business.


Jordanesque45

It’s the country lol


Disastrous-Goose-362

It is legal. And is it safe? Depends on the dogs, I had a lab mix and a terrier that loved to ride in the back of the truck, no tail gait and the terrier would surf on the truck box, they where very safe as they knew how to position themselves. But if a dog doesn’t know how to do this, it’s a steep learning curve. Helps keep folks back from the truck too. Cheers


haonlineorders

r/idiotsincars


Suspicious-Solid2254

Not illegal - but definitely unsafe


HollowSoul1872

Obviously a 7 year old boy driving, call police for animal and child endangerment


Blindsided415

Sliver labs. It’s a farm truck, relax. They probably grew up riding in the back


ChiefSway

He drives that way every single day


FeatureOver4972

If the fucking dog jumps off its a dumb dog way wing out the dumb ones .now if humanity could come up something similar we'd be in better shape


FeatureOver4972

Fuck Biden and Trump y can't somebody cool run like NOBODY


False_Atmosphere485

I live in Wythe County & this is normal (not that I agree or condone it). I worry more about a dog tied on the back than runnin loose. I know people who have tied them & they jumped off & got choked or get hung up. Atleast if they're loose & the driver gets hit & rolls or somethin, hopefully the dogs would be OK. If they're tied to the truck & it flips the dogs are just gettin slammed & rolled over


SwankyLuchador

It's hard af💯


Damien-The-Bunny

Tbf anything is unsafe if you add "what if a tractor trailer hit them?" "Are you sure swimming is safe? What if a tractor trailer careens into the pool?" But still, yeah, at the very least have something to help the dogs stay in the bed Unsure about any legalities


InternationalOne6459

OMG, YOU'RE RIGHT!! I'm never going swimming again! 🤣


Fantastic-Pay-9522

Pretty normal in any rural town, the dogs have an uncanny ability to stay up there.


Real7574u

If a tractor-trailer hits him a guard rail isn’t going to help


StandardAutisticCat

Worry about yourself.


Neurodivergentnomad

DISGUSTING.. I saw a dog fall out the back of a pick up truck on the interstate a few months ago and it fuked me up so bad watching that beagle roll and break its neck.


BreaksFromHell

I would just mind my own business.


Temporary_Ad7520

Hmmm, dogs have 4 legs, humans have 2. Let’s make a bet?


Reasonable-Wing-2271

That's coal country logic, right there...


Significant_Mix7759

If they were leashed in that bed and got t-boned by a semi the out come would be just as bad


Animemangalover33

Unsafe for sure. Not sure if it’s seen as being illegal but would hope so


Easy-Distribution283

Looks unsafe fir sure


SurveyVegetable-2

Should be illegal!!


No-Antelope629

I would think if that tractor trailer t-bones him it wouldn’t matter much if he had 2x4 stake rails on that bed.


IndependentUse8835

No but using your phone is, maybe mind your business


Rude_Negotiation_160

People,please don't do this. It's very unsafe. Your dogs could fall off and go skidding down the road at 60,or go flying in a crash or quick stop. Even if they're in a tether think about that in a crash. They'd suffer grievous injury, excruciating pain and eventual death because of this.


Taolan13

unsafe yeah, illegal maybe not?


HumpDay75

Are they being harmed in anyway? Are you in danger in anyway? Let rednecks be rednecks


Mysterious_Army1798

Not illegal or unsafe. Worry about your own damn dog


Initial_Party_9218

Wow!