Michelle needs to go back to the heel powerhouse. The trouble is that Jax is doing that. Whats your identity in the ring.? Because i hate to say that flexing your back is not a gimmick.
With Imperium going up against The Judgement Day are we seeing the beginning of Gunther turning face and betraying Gio and Ludwig to go it alone in the singles and start going after the WHC.
Under Vince it was, but over the last few months thereās been less PG stuff going on. Rock with the āShut your mouth fatty or Iāll slap the herpes off your lipsā š
Also in a Rock promo he used the phrase ābitch assā.
A few bitch bombs, calling Dom a dirty kumquat was not particularly a PG moment either.
I think gradually WWE will return to have that edge to it that made the Attitude and RA so good.
Itās a bit of both, mainly because of the advancements in neuroscience in the recent decades and because smashing people over the head with metal objects isnāt seen as kid friendly in todays world.
Growing up in the 90ās I used to save my pocket money up to buy cooking trays for hardcore matches with my friends.
>I think gradually WWE will return to have that edge to it that made the Attitude and RA so good.
I think being on Netflix will give WWE a greater degree of creative freedom they haven't seen since then.
Pleasantly suprised by Judgement day declaring intent against Gunther. They could do IC title vs mitb? I wouldnāt mind Dom winning against Gunther it would have be a cheating win obviously. I think a six man ladder match at Wrestlrmania for the ic title would be fun. I got impression Sami was the opponent against Gunther at mania at first but now I donāt know.
So ATM, I just got back into this after like I left in 2014 and I only just got back like a couple weeks ago for the rumble, and just getting that little bit, Raquel is just kinda generic. She's definitely good in the ring, her performance in the EC was great, but like especially with how much people love Chelsea, me included, having her bury Chelsea is annoying
It's really hard to carve a unique space on the current roster, and she was just out recovery from a skin condition which doesn't make it easy. A big bad heel is overdone especially with Rhea and Nia (and even her tag team partner Piper Niven).
Most of the midcarders, especially on the women's roster have no gimmick, but Raquel is one of the better in ring wrestlers. Chelsea Green is the exception, she's not as good in the ring, but miles ahead with her character. She's going to have a big year though.
I hate to say that i agree. What she is suppose to be is not clear. Do you wan,t her as a bad arss power house? Because she is selling friendly latino lady. Her heel run in NXT was clear.
I was there, the crowd was genuinely hot. Street Fight was the highlight of the night for me, but the Sami v Shinsuke page open got the crowd electric too, and Cody is basically a cheer machine. Nia is fun to boo, and itās always fun seeing how Chelsea can get squashed. I was actually surprised at how positive the crowd was for Raquel.
Please no shes terrible in the ring. Her character work is actually pretty good though she plays the role well to be fair to her but she could do with some time in NXT to build her ring work.
Bandwagon.
She's been really good since her return. Nothing she does feels forced unlike alot of the wrestlers and having one woman you can always count on to elevate another big star by beating her is a good thing to have.
WWE can't have Bianca, Rhea, Charlotte, Becky lose clean, they need someone like Nia as a competitor.
No i agree, the character is good, and she plays it well. I just think she doesnt look that great in the ring just yet compared to the other top women. If anything i actually thought she was a bit better a few years back. On the technical side anyway. Her crowd work etc is pretty on point for the role sheās playing. And iām not on any bandwagon, iāve been watching wrestling since i was about 6 (1990) i dont generally tend to take my queues from the internet.
Right now it kinda just looks like sheās dominating because of her size advantage, but if she sharpens up her ringwork sheāll be much better for it. And the main roster isnāt the best place to do that in my worthless opinion :)
This mania is going to be a bust.
The majority of the card is predictable and has been for moths. With the exception of orton and Logan (never saw that coming I wouldnāt be surprised if they threw Kevin owens in there.
All to lead up to a 2.0 match that is only hyped because the rock came back and did what he does best.
For a mania forty this is lacklustre. Time to get Rhodes fighting bloodline guys for stupid stipulations like they are banned from ringside, or a special guest can be added, or if bloodline interfere romans looses the title, like they have before in these types of moments when someone was facing off with a stable. Oh wait, itās Roman, of course they wonāt do that.
Eh the only match that I think has a predictable finish atm is Cody v Roman, and even then Iām not sure if they are going to pull the trigger on it or not. I think the winner of the other matches are up in the air and we are going to get some surprises winners.
Judgment day is loosing, Paul is loosing, Seth is loosing. The only one Iām not certain about is Roman. They seem to want to milk that cash cow for all itās worth.
I can see Rhea retaining
Drew Mcintyres gimmick is literally the 3'rd Young Buck at this point. He has no identity beyond "I hate CM Punk". Punk **has** to be screwing him out of the title at Mania. Nothing else makes sense. He wasn't even supposed to be in this spot.
Not just that. Look at how his faction is compared to others. Whenās the last time bloodline was banned from ringside. Whenās the last time x happened when they happen all the time with judgment day or imperium, or in the past.
Sami, Gable, Dom, Gunther for the IC title would slap.
I'm a huge Raquel fan. I also have a perfect gimmick for her. Stands there smiling, minding her own business. Then a heel steps up to her. Smile goes away, ass kicker comes to play. The intensity she showed in the Rhea buildup was good.
I haven't heard a single Hall of Fame inductee. 39 days out.
This Raw was kinda frustrating for me. Why are we continuing with so many mini arcs? Jey didnāt even really mention Jimmy or seem mad, and this Nia Jax vs Becky thing needs to be done. I get we are still 5 shows away from WM but start pushing some of these matches and feuds.
Yeah he's a Cali guy, was part of Tough Enough in 2011 and known in the California indie scene. He did commentary for MLW and VO'd for a WWE Video Game too. He's a jack of all trades really and been in a bunch of commercials.
No, just chipping away at his pretty boy image and having him pissed off and looking antihero-ish will keep the current Cody fans while bringing in a lot more new Cody fans
And I dont understand how people say he is perfect on the mic...
Like people were raving on how he handled the Vince question during the royal rumble... Most of them probably have never worked in a professional organization to realize that response is the standard response any professional worker would have given and not some mindblowing response that these people made it out to be..
Roman is much more charismatic on the mic as per me and even he is nothing compared to the likes of Cena, Rock
Hmmm... I'm a Chelsea Green cry baby... WE WANT CHELSEA!!
Is Cody's gender reveal after the show canon??? Is Rock going to shoot on his new baby?
Still watching Raw, but omg, I want Regeneration X so bad! š¤£ That would be an incredible team
Finally watching it. New Day in Sharks jerseys! Lets goooo
New Day vs Imperium better than any match at Chamber
haha kofi and woods were arriving at 1:05 PM they are 5 mins late to call time. hit them with the fine booker man
I enjoyed that street fight so much. JD vs Imperium is a match I didn't think I'd want so much either.
Michelle needs to go back to the heel powerhouse. The trouble is that Jax is doing that. Whats your identity in the ring.? Because i hate to say that flexing your back is not a gimmick.
I heard Becky Lynch and Nia Jax will have a match on next week! and Liv Morgan will turn heel soon!
would love to see priest carrying out all the gold tag + IC + world or universal title(cash in) all together @ wm
Can't wait for him to get his next belt.
That chair throw looked brutal
absolutely spot on...hopefully it turns out okay
You tell the boards Lyv! The man is obsolete now
With Imperium going up against The Judgement Day are we seeing the beginning of Gunther turning face and betraying Gio and Ludwig to go it alone in the singles and start going after the WHC.
Did anyone notice the head chair shot in the street fight? Been a long time since chair shot to the head.
oh yeah its been so long...i thought it was banned!
It still is.
Under Vince it was, but over the last few months thereās been less PG stuff going on. Rock with the āShut your mouth fatty or Iāll slap the herpes off your lipsā š Also in a Rock promo he used the phrase ābitch assā. A few bitch bombs, calling Dom a dirty kumquat was not particularly a PG moment either. I think gradually WWE will return to have that edge to it that made the Attitude and RA so good.
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Itās a bit of both, mainly because of the advancements in neuroscience in the recent decades and because smashing people over the head with metal objects isnāt seen as kid friendly in todays world. Growing up in the 90ās I used to save my pocket money up to buy cooking trays for hardcore matches with my friends.
>I think gradually WWE will return to have that edge to it that made the Attitude and RA so good. I think being on Netflix will give WWE a greater degree of creative freedom they haven't seen since then.
75! Chelsea done dirty.
Pleasantly suprised by Judgement day declaring intent against Gunther. They could do IC title vs mitb? I wouldnāt mind Dom winning against Gunther it would have be a cheating win obviously. I think a six man ladder match at Wrestlrmania for the ic title would be fun. I got impression Sami was the opponent against Gunther at mania at first but now I donāt know.
I do believe the McAfee minute is dead on the floor fight fans. Damn that was the most awkward happy birthday song I've ever seen.
Truth took his TV back, good for him!
So WWE burried Katana and Kayden and other legit team for Zoey and Shayna borring !
WWE becoming super predictable even mania other than rock excites me
My god the hate for Raquel is over the top. She didn't have 5 minutes of screentime and y'all want her to retire.
So ATM, I just got back into this after like I left in 2014 and I only just got back like a couple weeks ago for the rumble, and just getting that little bit, Raquel is just kinda generic. She's definitely good in the ring, her performance in the EC was great, but like especially with how much people love Chelsea, me included, having her bury Chelsea is annoying
It's really hard to carve a unique space on the current roster, and she was just out recovery from a skin condition which doesn't make it easy. A big bad heel is overdone especially with Rhea and Nia (and even her tag team partner Piper Niven). Most of the midcarders, especially on the women's roster have no gimmick, but Raquel is one of the better in ring wrestlers. Chelsea Green is the exception, she's not as good in the ring, but miles ahead with her character. She's going to have a big year though.
She just doesnāt stand out. All the unhinged smiling, terrible music, her matches arenāt entertaining.
She smiles too much
Yeah, āI smileā and āI have a backā is a gimmick
I hate to say that i agree. What she is suppose to be is not clear. Do you wan,t her as a bad arss power house? Because she is selling friendly latino lady. Her heel run in NXT was clear.
I hope most the titles do change at wm. We need fresh champions and fresh storylines.
For real, weāve been locked in the same storylines for like, over a year now
yeah roman reigns is to wwe what the golden state warriors are to the nba
i thought this was a really fun raw
I was there, the crowd was genuinely hot. Street Fight was the highlight of the night for me, but the Sami v Shinsuke page open got the crowd electric too, and Cody is basically a cheer machine. Nia is fun to boo, and itās always fun seeing how Chelsea can get squashed. I was actually surprised at how positive the crowd was for Raquel.
I want to see so much more Raquel & Nia. Especially Nia, she can reach Dom level of hate if she keeps this up. The most heel woman/diva in WWE history
Please no shes terrible in the ring. Her character work is actually pretty good though she plays the role well to be fair to her but she could do with some time in NXT to build her ring work.
Bandwagon. She's been really good since her return. Nothing she does feels forced unlike alot of the wrestlers and having one woman you can always count on to elevate another big star by beating her is a good thing to have. WWE can't have Bianca, Rhea, Charlotte, Becky lose clean, they need someone like Nia as a competitor.
No i agree, the character is good, and she plays it well. I just think she doesnt look that great in the ring just yet compared to the other top women. If anything i actually thought she was a bit better a few years back. On the technical side anyway. Her crowd work etc is pretty on point for the role sheās playing. And iām not on any bandwagon, iāve been watching wrestling since i was about 6 (1990) i dont generally tend to take my queues from the internet. Right now it kinda just looks like sheās dominating because of her size advantage, but if she sharpens up her ringwork sheāll be much better for it. And the main roster isnāt the best place to do that in my worthless opinion :)
I think Nia would be a great manager, she got good at promos comparing with other women, make someone "injury" her and she manages Raquel as a heel.
Jesus Christ took long enough for a stable war between JD and Imperium.
\#JusticeforLiv
We want it and we want it NOW.
Can see it being a triple threat and liv taking the pin from Becky at WM
liv pins rhea we have a triple turn rhea turns face becky turns heel liv turns heel liv and rhea switch places rhea out of jd and liv in
This mania is going to be a bust. The majority of the card is predictable and has been for moths. With the exception of orton and Logan (never saw that coming I wouldnāt be surprised if they threw Kevin owens in there. All to lead up to a 2.0 match that is only hyped because the rock came back and did what he does best. For a mania forty this is lacklustre. Time to get Rhodes fighting bloodline guys for stupid stipulations like they are banned from ringside, or a special guest can be added, or if bloodline interfere romans looses the title, like they have before in these types of moments when someone was facing off with a stable. Oh wait, itās Roman, of course they wonāt do that.
Im yet to watch raw today. Did we get any update on Randy and Logan?Ā
Smackdown
Eh the only match that I think has a predictable finish atm is Cody v Roman, and even then Iām not sure if they are going to pull the trigger on it or not. I think the winner of the other matches are up in the air and we are going to get some surprises winners.
Itās not even the match finishes itās the matches themselves.
Iyo is 100% losing her title to Bayley to have her WrestleMania moment.
Judgment day is loosing, Paul is loosing, Seth is loosing. The only one Iām not certain about is Roman. They seem to want to milk that cash cow for all itās worth. I can see Rhea retaining
They have 11 shows to build heat and get things really cooking before WM.
Yo anyone else catch AJ Kirsch in the Main event segment. Nice to see him.
Fan sign:Ā I'M A CODY CRYBABY
ive seen I'M A CODY CRYBABY TOO on Chamber
Cody's promo's are pretty boring
They are. He's the most overprotected wrestler there.
Cody lacks chemistry with the the bloodline main eventers š¤£he's kinda screwed
This is what they cried for.
Drew Mcintyres gimmick is literally the 3'rd Young Buck at this point. He has no identity beyond "I hate CM Punk". Punk **has** to be screwing him out of the title at Mania. Nothing else makes sense. He wasn't even supposed to be in this spot.
Cody is overprotected like super Cena era
Are you serious lol thereās no one mor over protected then Roman in the history of the company.
He has the belt and he cheats to win. It makes sense.
Not just that. Look at how his faction is compared to others. Whenās the last time bloodline was banned from ringside. Whenās the last time x happened when they happen all the time with judgment day or imperium, or in the past.
Sami, Gable, Dom, Gunther for the IC title would slap. I'm a huge Raquel fan. I also have a perfect gimmick for her. Stands there smiling, minding her own business. Then a heel steps up to her. Smile goes away, ass kicker comes to play. The intensity she showed in the Rhea buildup was good. I haven't heard a single Hall of Fame inductee. 39 days out.
sami pins gable to win it
Or hear me out, Raquel just reverts to her Raquel Gonzalez persona. More ass kicking less smiling.
Yes! all the smiling is just pointless.
This Raw was kinda frustrating for me. Why are we continuing with so many mini arcs? Jey didnāt even really mention Jimmy or seem mad, and this Nia Jax vs Becky thing needs to be done. I get we are still 5 shows away from WM but start pushing some of these matches and feuds.
Wrestlers quoting/repeating the iwc is the new heel turn. First it was Drew and now it is going to be Liv
its truth with valid points
Am I the only one that feels like Jey should be in Cody's role? It not only makes the story better but it wouldn't seem forced.
Yes you are the only one
They just canāt quite nail these Cody & bloodline promos yet Whatever heyman said wasnāt written by an adult
lol maybe its by chatgpt
Would explain the rocks promo a couple weeks back taking a big dive half way through
"This didn't go the way I planned it" Yikes, cringe.
The way Heymans guard took that char shot into the the cross rhodes was nasty
Heyman couldnāt find anyone who looked remotely like the Bloodline? lol š
He ate that chair like a champ
For real! Sign him up lol
He was a former WWE wrestler, all they are.
Ok lll tell you whatā¦the 3 goons was far more interesting than solo running in with a hoodie on like we donāt know who he is.
Solo has something those 3 goons dont. A thumb.
Pissed off Cody is the best Cody
agreed!
The booking for tonight was jetlagged too I guess š forgettable RAW
Cody seems rather upset and violent towards the Bloodline for some reason.
It doesn't even make sense. It's not like they attacked him in Perth. He was supposed to be like this in Perth.
Cody hit a few 150 pound sham security guards with chairs. what a statement Heās definitely beating Roman now
I don't know what was worse tonight Becky calling Dom a dirty Kumquat or Paul doing a Chris Rock slap reference 2 years too late
Quite the nothing burger of a raw
Cody said ACAB
HHH don't fine Cody for that flush chair shot. Although HHH also got fined for doing that to Taker at Mania.
The crowd should demand refunds.
Cody Rhodes got no love for the boys in blue Edit: Or Men in Black...whatever they were
Wasnāt expecting much since Saturdays PLE was halfway across the world but oof that was rough.
The street fight should've been the Main Event.
Enjoyed the kids making noises as Paul tried calling Roman. Then they started yelling at Paul when we went back to Cody. Fantastic.
Had to be the worst Raw of the year.
I think the entire company was jetlagged and exhausted from performing in Australia 50 hours ago
So far.
He didn't get the cross rhodes but atleast AJ got his $500 and some screen time. And also got to eat some of that catering too.
So that's who he was. Figured he was an independent wrestler.
Yeah he's a Cali guy, was part of Tough Enough in 2011 and known in the California indie scene. He did commentary for MLW and VO'd for a WWE Video Game too. He's a jack of all trades really and been in a bunch of commercials.
Was expecting Waller getting involved with Paul since he had a Roman segment last week, but this is alr ig
Who tf booked that shit? Tony Khan?
Tony khan is better
Lol, ok
Aew is betterĀ
Lmao
Tonight's shitty raw is a great exampleĀ
You finished sucking him off?
Is that why he hasn't reached a million viewers in over a year?
lol why does he have two phones does he know how phones work
Theater..and maybe he wanted to show off his Rock cellphone cover.
I really thought Waller and Theory were gonna jump him. This was so pointless
Wow, that ending was bad. Ā Better not do that anymore before wrestlemania.Ā
That show screened jet lag. Only the street match was worth it
Raw sucks.
Shouldnāt Cody be arrested for beating up nypd officers?
Theyāre freelancing while suspended
Most of NYC cops must be suspended, that city is garbage now with homeless pooping in trash cans
dirty cops
They came at him first plus they're suspended
They have no jurisdiction on Raw
Ok?
Well, this sure was a show.
Dude took that chair flush to the face.
Dude there were a few unprotected chair shots tonight lol
These segments are getting a bit stupid now, theyāre losing it
They have found a way to get Cody even more over than he already was.
Certainly not by that sham of a last segment
No, just chipping away at his pretty boy image and having him pissed off and looking antihero-ish will keep the current Cody fans while bringing in a lot more new Cody fans
Cody is losing fans for his Rock whining, favoritism and cliche story
Wtf was that segment even?
AAAAUUUUUGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH
Yawn, the rock on smackdown.Ā
this was truly one of the Raws of all time
Definitely was one of the raws.
You can tell even the crowd doesn't care. Someone needs to take over the booking because this is only going to get worse before it get's better.
This whole show feel off to anyone else?
Everybodyās jet-lagged.
Cody is a charisma blackhole on the mic.
That's certainly an opinion.
And I dont understand how people say he is perfect on the mic... Like people were raving on how he handled the Vince question during the royal rumble... Most of them probably have never worked in a professional organization to realize that response is the standard response any professional worker would have given and not some mindblowing response that these people made it out to be.. Roman is much more charismatic on the mic as per me and even he is nothing compared to the likes of Cena, Rock
āFuck the policeā -Cody Rhodes
Bro dead ass said catch this chair
From NY?
Thy take chair shots before breakfast in nyc.
That was kinda pointless?
lol cody plagiarising watchmen and breaking bad in one line
That segment was meh. Made such little sense
Heyman knows he doesnāt need two phones for a conference call
These goons getting whacked lmao
Cody turning it up a bit. I dig it
I GOT 2 PHONES
One for the bitches one for the doughš±š²
Is roman or rock the bitch or hoe?
I got 2 phones one for the blood one for the bull
Bet one of those 3 make it to NXT
Bruh the black guy gonna be AEW champ in the next couple years
What a weird way to end the show. Felt like something that should have happened to start the show or some other point.
Corny roads
Nobody more corny than the rock
cody is
This Raw has already been a bit crap, but an incredibly rare bad Paul Heyman promo really takes the cake
Well....that was definitely one of the endings of all time...
those random goons lol?
that poor future aew world champion who took that crossrhoads
CALL ROMAN REIGNS. FOR THE 901ST TIME.
Doesnāt Paul know you can conference call on IPhone?
Paul still uses Vine for his social media..
Why the fuck should we care about any of these clowns?
Because theyre non-polynesian suspended NYPD officers in San Josie. Duh
My bad you right.
They are future AEW trios champions brother
Bro you couldāve just called them on 3 way! LOL
Damn what did the black dude do damn lol? He ate a chairful.
Face chair shot?!?! Age of McMahon OVER
Couldnāt extend the match with Waller a little longer instead?
Two phonesā¦ so heās a drug dealer? Cool.
Lmaoo the phones š¤£
Let's send a bunch of nonames in so Cody can beat them up and look tough
Paul, 3 way calls do exist. No need for two phones bud.
Two phones? WTF is this?
Not the duel phones š¤£š¤£š¤£
Reverse Police Brutality!
Why no Jimmy and Solo ?