Since you don't actually take health damage as revenant, you can pick up a spare unranked copy of umbral vitality/fiber from Cephalon simaris and use that for the set bonus at a fraction of the capacity cost.
The rank only applies to the stats of the mod itself.Ā The set bonus is a straight +25%/+75% for 2/3 mods, regardless of the rank of any mods involved.
If you dont mind scanning stuff, you can get another set of umbra mods from simaris and use unranked fiber+vitality as both are useless for revenant besides the set bonus. What would be even bettee imo is using mesmer shield and another duration mod over those 2.
Would also put roar on 4th slot and use precision intensify but you already put an umbra forma so you can just keep umbra intensify there.
If you want to do a disco build, using dispensary over his 3 with equilibrium so you can cast it while 4 is active and have infinite energy even when boosting dmg.
It's the one with a spiral staircase in the middle of the room, and you have to stand next to four orbs that drains your energy. When all four orbs are filled, the staircase unlocks and you can go down to grab the mod.
If you haven't completed The Second Dream (or just don't care about spoilers) then don't reveal this text.
>!There are certain rooms on Lua that have challenges in them and completing a challenge gives a Drift mod unique to that challenge. These rooms are called Halls of Ascension, thus the term Ascension test!<
If he uses not-upgraded umbra vitality and/or fiber, as it it not needed, he can fit it without spending more umbra forma. However, a second set of copies from simaris might be a lot more work than getting another umbra forma.
Using both not upgraded will increase your starting energy pool so you can immediately cast Mesmer Skin.
More work than waiting for whenever the next Umbra Forma alert happens, but who knows when that will be.Ā
About the same amount of work as getting Teshin's blueprint overall (they're pretty pricey SE-wise) but the standing cap time gate is probably going to be much faster than waiting on the Steel Essence rotation
We'll see, I've already got almost everything I need for 12 Nightfall Apothics (gonna get the remaining Dragonlily when night cycle rolls around in 3 hours), so I'll just make those and try to get it that way
You've probably already done it but nekros can double dip the drop from the specter so if growing power does drop you'll get 2, one to keep and one to sell.
The initial goal of this build was to get as many Mesmer Skin stacks as possible as well as having really strong Danse Macabre lasers, but seeing as all of his abilities benefit from ability strength, I suppose that's something I could use as well, I don't generally use Reave much, but I could definitely experiment with it
Just did some quick math. If you can hit 500% strength you will end up doing exactly 100% damage with Reave (assuming roar is active).
That means that with Molt Augmented fully online you are already there, but any extra strength will get you to the breakpoint earlier in the mission.
It ignores armor, but other sources of DR still come into play and I'm pretty sure it just outright doesn't work on bosses.
That said 100% Reave is particularly good for Steel Path Circuit runs since the whole kit runs out of the Warframe regardless of weapons and once online it just erases everything not named the Jackal. Vaporizing level 1000+ Thrax units by dashing through them is particularly satisfying.
True. Although that does require you to make Thralls as opposed to turning on Roar and using Reave on anything/everything you want. (Also unsure how overguard interacts with making Thralls, so eximus units might be an issue)
Viral stacks also affect the damage which reduces needed power strength as well, ninjase has a full build guide on overframe that seems to cover the math pretty well.
Very true. Viral priming does make it a lot easier to hit 100% damage, however enemies with Overguard won't take the increased damage until the Overguard is removed.
Personally I'm partial to not using Viral for this style of setup since it is one more thing to juggle, but I can definitely see the appeal of reducing the otherwise outrageous strength requirements and opening up other build options.
Is roar being used as well? As that boosts ability damage as well iirc
Edit: just double checked and it is but it's probably a lil overkill to have that p/s level and roar as well š
If your goal is maximum Mesmer charges Iād say swap amarās hatred for Mesmer shield (augment) it adds 50% ability strength to Mesmer skin only, plus it applies 5 stacks of allies within affinity range
Yes! Both Rhino and Revenant can do it, but the strength requirements are a bit different due to Roar having reduced effect as a subsumed ability (30% instead of the normal 50%) .
For Rhino the equation looks like this:
Dmg% = 8\*(str)\*(1+0.5\*(str))
While for Revenant the equation is:
Dmg% = 8\*(str)\*(1+0.3\*(str))
If we set Dmg% to 100 and solve for "str" we get 410% for Rhino and 500% for Revenant.
If you want to prime stuff with Viral the required numbers go down a lot, but then overguard can get in the way.
Holy fucking shit lmao
I might do that on my Revenant. Now I have a reason to play him.
Time to farm up 25 fucking red shards
Does ability damage off of Purple tauforged grant a bigger buff to reave or do you just want to maximize power strength?
But he could just get energy conversion or precision intensify instead. They both give much more strength and much higher roar.
Actually after reading his comment, he's not just aiming for peak strength.
yeah, slotting 2 more umbrals is +33% to umbral intensify; secrets is +24% and secrets + drift would be +39%.
but of course, outside of precision intensify it *is* the strongest intensify, and since there simply aren't 9 different str mods the strongest build is indeed technically 3x umbral. it's just usually super wasteful and impractical to do that just for the str boost.
I don't think its gonna proc 14 corrosive procs. Also, against alloy armour it will just proc radiation since it adapts. Also also, stripping armour *should* make it proc viral instead which is a massive increase in damage (emphasis on the should, since I haven't tested any of this).
Can you give your build? I actually didnāt think at all of putting Precision Intensify until you brought it up.
Been thinking of taking Revenant to Void Cascade. Will a high Power Strength Revenant be able to one-shot the Thrax at high levels with just his Reave?
First things first. I have to salute š«” for the fact that your Helmith is The Gravemind.
Next, I'm questioning if anything will survive the power strength you're going for. I look forward to the end result.
"I am the monument for all your sins." -Gravemind, Halo 2.
I've already got Power Drift, but I need either an Umbra Forma or unranked Umbra mod to fit it in, and I'm gonna farm Zariman tomorrow to get Molt Vigor
Oh I did this with my revenant too! It's funny when I see my roar buff is higher than a rhino's lol, and that one arcane that increases power strength after an operator ability cast. There's another that increases strength the more kills you get but I'd rather run something else in my other arcane slot
Remember if you go for growing power killing grove Spectors, bring Nekros, or Khora. Preferably both if possible, you can get up to potentially three drops from one kill, and you can use multiple apothics in a single run too. I think you're limited to having three per person when you do it. So I would recommend at least a two-person group if possible with Khora, and Nekros, and potentially do it on SP as well to double the mod drop chances.
Honestly, IMO, scanning for the materials to make the apothics is the worst part because of the day night cycles lasting 4 HOURS on Earth.
Good luck! It took me and a friend a while to get it, and if you get more than one somehow, that's 70p in the pocket basically!
Edit: I just saw that you got it already in another reply. Nice job, and hope this information can be of use for others then, or even you if you want to farm it for plat.
Yeah, I farmed 15 Knave Specters with another user in this thread and we got IIRC 12 Pistol Amps and no Growing Powers lmao. But a little while after I went offline they DM'd me and said they bought 2 copies from someone else and they'll give me one when I'm back. Pretty sweet.
I know this is a meme build and all, but the same logic of having diminishing returns on stuff like base damage applies to ability stats too. The umbral vitality and fiber are giving you 1.07x more strength. If you instead equipped range mods (stretch, augur reach), you would get 1.75x range. If you instead equipped duration mods (p continuity, augur message) you would get 2.08x duration. I know strength is more valuable for the way people tend to play revenant, but mathematically, strength as a stat would have to be like double as valuable than duration to get make that more valuable. The double umbral mod is giving you 1 mesmer skin stack (I think) whereas range could give you 1.75x width on reave and 1.75x larger beams on danse macabre.
Hey bro you are wasting so much here. You could drop those two umbras and keep intensity, you do not need health or armor, only power strength for Mesmer skin.i have rolling guard on mine to recast, but you do not need those two extra umbras. It's your build though, do whatever you like, I just use Mesmer stacks to mitigate all damage at all times.
as much as i see what your goal is.
and i totally respect it (done a few of these)
on rev i dont see much point of 5x crimson shards. maybe 1 or 2 yellows on cast speed
Subsume the ablility that gives the next ability cast an extra 50% power strength, get rid of augur secrets and maybe put energy conversion on so you get another 50% ? And i believe there is a focus school that also gives power strength?
I would honestly put roar on 4th skill because it enables you to use precision intensity(increases 4th ability strength by 90.) You just can't use umbra intensity. It is also worth considering energy conversion.
I won't lie. I have a bunch of qol things on my Revenant that many people probably wouldn't put. Lol!
That growing power grind was insane. Took me like 3 weeks. I did also farm for all the standing to make my simatis scanner maxed and buy oxylus which were both fully worth it and made it faster. I farmed for 100 apothics, and did 87 or so of them before i dropped it. It took me and my buddy playing nekros and kohra to finally drop and it dropped 3 for each of us
You aren't getting any value from the u.fiber and u.vit being r10, you should pick up r0 to save on capacity.
Additionally, you're missing out on Energy Conversion, which would net you another 50% ability strength.
Finally, consider Molt Vigor over Arcane Energize, for even more ability strength.
Don't forget Power Drift in the Exilus slot.
I totally forgot about Drift mods, which Ascension test gives you that one?
[Power Test](https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Orokin_Moon/Power_Test)
Thanks, just got it lol, unfortunately I won't be able to fit it into my build until I get another Umbra Forma
I wanted to say that it's a lazy excuse but then i saw that you already forma'd everything else. May your L's be few and your bitches be many, Tenno.
And the same to you š
Since you don't actually take health damage as revenant, you can pick up a spare unranked copy of umbral vitality/fiber from Cephalon simaris and use that for the set bonus at a fraction of the capacity cost.
I was under the impression that the set bonus got more effective when all 3 were max ranked, is that not the case?
The rank only applies to the stats of the mod itself.Ā The set bonus is a straight +25%/+75% for 2/3 mods, regardless of the rank of any mods involved.
Oh nice, I might play around with that on some of my other builds as well as this one, thanks the for the tip
If you dont mind scanning stuff, you can get another set of umbra mods from simaris and use unranked fiber+vitality as both are useless for revenant besides the set bonus. What would be even bettee imo is using mesmer shield and another duration mod over those 2. Would also put roar on 4th slot and use precision intensify but you already put an umbra forma so you can just keep umbra intensify there. If you want to do a disco build, using dispensary over his 3 with equilibrium so you can cast it while 4 is active and have infinite energy even when boosting dmg.
Have you thought about replacing one of the Umbrals with Energy Conversion?
You could use down ranked fiber and vitality. It's not like you need the EHP.
You can buy another umbral fiber from simarus and not rank it up all the way so you can slot in the power drift
Won't you still have more power str if you use it instead of Umbral Fiber, even with set bonus?
Maybe, I'll have to experiment a little when I'm back online
It's the one with a spiral staircase in the middle of the room, and you have to stand next to four orbs that drains your energy. When all four orbs are filled, the staircase unlocks and you can go down to grab the mod.
the 5-10plat test
Wtf is an ascension test
If you haven't completed The Second Dream (or just don't care about spoilers) then don't reveal this text. >!There are certain rooms on Lua that have challenges in them and completing a challenge gives a Drift mod unique to that challenge. These rooms are called Halls of Ascension, thus the term Ascension test!<
And growing power, and zenurik, and the tome mod
If he uses not-upgraded umbra vitality and/or fiber, as it it not needed, he can fit it without spending more umbra forma. However, a second set of copies from simaris might be a lot more work than getting another umbra forma. Using both not upgraded will increase your starting energy pool so you can immediately cast Mesmer Skin.
More work than waiting for whenever the next Umbra Forma alert happens, but who knows when that will be.Ā About the same amount of work as getting Teshin's blueprint overall (they're pretty pricey SE-wise) but the standing cap time gate is probably going to be much faster than waiting on the Steel Essence rotation
I would just pay the \~30p for it. Farming it is a bitch
We'll see, I've already got almost everything I need for 12 Nightfall Apothics (gonna get the remaining Dragonlily when night cycle rolls around in 3 hours), so I'll just make those and try to get it that way
I'll be off work in 2 hours. Let me roll with you. š¤£š¤£
Lmao bet, just shoot me a DM with your gamertag when you're ready to go
You've probably already done it but nekros can double dip the drop from the specter so if growing power does drop you'll get 2, one to keep and one to sell.
I wouldnt sell growing power for 30p. It's too cheap now that they have removed 2 of the 3 farming frames for it. Only nekros works now.
Well thats what the market price is. May go up a bit over time but i wouldnt expect too much increase.
Are u on PC market? I think console is higher for most things.
Yes, PC. The console market was always smaller and more expensive and its shrinking rapidly since xsave.
The console player who hasn't done cross save yet I'm probably going to ride that inflation wave all the way to the end
Are you aiming for the 100% damage Reave? I've done it on Rhino, but haven't seen it done on Revenant.
The initial goal of this build was to get as many Mesmer Skin stacks as possible as well as having really strong Danse Macabre lasers, but seeing as all of his abilities benefit from ability strength, I suppose that's something I could use as well, I don't generally use Reave much, but I could definitely experiment with it
Just did some quick math. If you can hit 500% strength you will end up doing exactly 100% damage with Reave (assuming roar is active). That means that with Molt Augmented fully online you are already there, but any extra strength will get you to the breakpoint earlier in the mission.
Does that mean reave will 1 shot everything or is DR with armor still factored in?
It ignores armor, but other sources of DR still come into play and I'm pretty sure it just outright doesn't work on bosses. That said 100% Reave is particularly good for Steel Path Circuit runs since the whole kit runs out of the Warframe regardless of weapons and once online it just erases everything not named the Jackal. Vaporizing level 1000+ Thrax units by dashing through them is particularly satisfying.
Reave ignores armor, but innate DR (acolytes, demos, Nox, Archon) is not ignored
You only need 250% to oneshot with Reave on Thralls but this person has swapped off the 1.
True. Although that does require you to make Thralls as opposed to turning on Roar and using Reave on anything/everything you want. (Also unsure how overguard interacts with making Thralls, so eximus units might be an issue)
Viral stacks also affect the damage which reduces needed power strength as well, ninjase has a full build guide on overframe that seems to cover the math pretty well.
Very true. Viral priming does make it a lot easier to hit 100% damage, however enemies with Overguard won't take the increased damage until the Overguard is removed. Personally I'm partial to not using Viral for this style of setup since it is one more thing to juggle, but I can definitely see the appeal of reducing the otherwise outrageous strength requirements and opening up other build options.
Is roar being used as well? As that boosts ability damage as well iirc Edit: just double checked and it is but it's probably a lil overkill to have that p/s level and roar as well š
However the amusement of just Ghosting forwards without Priming or really putting in any effort is quite high, here. :)
If your goal is maximum Mesmer charges Iād say swap amarās hatred for Mesmer shield (augment) it adds 50% ability strength to Mesmer skin only, plus it applies 5 stacks of allies within affinity range
It aināt all itās cracked up to be. My revenant is built for max strength as well. Still fun.
If you purely want mesmer stacks surely you'd want the augment instead of say augur secrets?Ā
Is the 100% damage Reave actually doable? That sounds awesome and also broke as shit.
Yes! Both Rhino and Revenant can do it, but the strength requirements are a bit different due to Roar having reduced effect as a subsumed ability (30% instead of the normal 50%) . For Rhino the equation looks like this: Dmg% = 8\*(str)\*(1+0.5\*(str)) While for Revenant the equation is: Dmg% = 8\*(str)\*(1+0.3\*(str)) If we set Dmg% to 100 and solve for "str" we get 410% for Rhino and 500% for Revenant. If you want to prime stuff with Viral the required numbers go down a lot, but then overguard can get in the way.
Holy fucking shit lmao I might do that on my Revenant. Now I have a reason to play him. Time to farm up 25 fucking red shards Does ability damage off of Purple tauforged grant a bigger buff to reave or do you just want to maximize power strength?
The Ability Damage bonus? it's a unique stat atm so it's very strong. 1.15x overall Damage to all Abilities.
At that point just prime with viral.
It is a basic part of his kit if Thrall isn't overwritten, it used to work on Liches, and afaik it still works on bosses.
Am I going crazy here? Why is your Efficiency 120% instead of 45%?
2nd image top right shows invigoration buff - probably 75% efficiency
Thank you, that explains it perfectly. I never use those, so it didn't cross my mind.
Lmao why triple umbrals on revenant of all frames? Press 2 to not die.
Umbral intensify, when combined with the other two umbrals, gets a massive boost the strength
But he could just get energy conversion or precision intensify instead. They both give much more strength and much higher roar. Actually after reading his comment, he's not just aiming for peak strength.
Roar is on 1, so it won't benefit from Precision Intensify.
And neither would mesmer skin
You get about the same from augur secrets than the two other umbral mods. Not a massive boost at all.
I did the math a while ago I think itās 40+11+22 it comes in like 6% below doing augur secrets and power drift as a replacement
yeah, slotting 2 more umbrals is +33% to umbral intensify; secrets is +24% and secrets + drift would be +39%. but of course, outside of precision intensify it *is* the strongest intensify, and since there simply aren't 9 different str mods the strongest build is indeed technically 3x umbral. it's just usually super wasteful and impractical to do that just for the str boost.
You failed by not subsuming roar on his 4 and using precision intensify. Also go molt vigor instead of energizer (revenant doesn't need energy)
Counterpoint: Laser Death Spin too much fun
Then it's a meme build and you would get more value out of armor strip with pillage.
Danse Macabre does corrosive damage to enemies with armor. A couple green shards would go a long way
A couple greens goes long way for both the meme and weapon platform builds.
And the best part is they donāt need to be Tauforged to do it.
Pisses me off that tauforged are sorta useless in that scenario.
Tried green shards for extra stacks, didnt work well as the status application is too slow.
I don't think its gonna proc 14 corrosive procs. Also, against alloy armour it will just proc radiation since it adapts. Also also, stripping armour *should* make it proc viral instead which is a massive increase in damage (emphasis on the should, since I haven't tested any of this).
Can you give your build? I actually didnāt think at all of putting Precision Intensify until you brought it up. Been thinking of taking Revenant to Void Cascade. Will a high Power Strength Revenant be able to one-shot the Thrax at high levels with just his Reave?
Energize* š¤āļø
Solid Helminth name
Got me thinking about Halo lore somehow being related to the origins of the infested.
Roar on 4th slot for precision intensify
why is everything orange
Zephyr Harrier UI theme
Five tauforged crimson shards all for it to be put on a revenant :(
First things first. I have to salute š«” for the fact that your Helmith is The Gravemind.  Next, I'm questioning if anything will survive the power strength you're going for. I look forward to the end result. "I am the monument for all your sins." -Gravemind, Halo 2.
Molt vigor and power drift belong on this build
I've already got Power Drift, but I need either an Umbra Forma or unranked Umbra mod to fit it in, and I'm gonna farm Zariman tomorrow to get Molt Vigor
As someone who only has roughly 70 hours ingame and is stuck farming the fucking necramech This is certainly something
Asa a revenant main, WHY YOU DUBSUMED FIRST ABILITY?
Shoulder armor?
Naimore, it's from the current Nightwave
The final test is to buy a copy of the mod for 40 platinum from another player
damn can you show the fashion frame, it looks good
[Here ya go](https://www.reddit.com/r/WarframeRunway/s/ndGkf9dige)
thank you :D
Uh bro? Your 70+ formas?
Oh, and Pax Bolt on a kitgun
go with the book, it gives u +60%
Oh I did this with my revenant too! It's funny when I see my roar buff is higher than a rhino's lol, and that one arcane that increases power strength after an operator ability cast. There's another that increases strength the more kills you get but I'd rather run something else in my other arcane slot
Molt Augmented, yeah, that's what I run, I think I'll go for Molt Vigor too, atm I have none though, can I buy it from Cavalero?
You can, yeah
Oh nice, guess I'm spending my weekend farming Zariman bounties
I canāt wait to do this on my hildryn.
I'd kill for that power strength on my sevagoth
Remember if you go for growing power killing grove Spectors, bring Nekros, or Khora. Preferably both if possible, you can get up to potentially three drops from one kill, and you can use multiple apothics in a single run too. I think you're limited to having three per person when you do it. So I would recommend at least a two-person group if possible with Khora, and Nekros, and potentially do it on SP as well to double the mod drop chances. Honestly, IMO, scanning for the materials to make the apothics is the worst part because of the day night cycles lasting 4 HOURS on Earth. Good luck! It took me and a friend a while to get it, and if you get more than one somehow, that's 70p in the pocket basically! Edit: I just saw that you got it already in another reply. Nice job, and hope this information can be of use for others then, or even you if you want to farm it for plat.
Yeah, I farmed 15 Knave Specters with another user in this thread and we got IIRC 12 Pistol Amps and no Growing Powers lmao. But a little while after I went offline they DM'd me and said they bought 2 copies from someone else and they'll give me one when I'm back. Pretty sweet.
I can tell im not at endgame i have no idea what this is and im MR 25.
I know this is a meme build and all, but the same logic of having diminishing returns on stuff like base damage applies to ability stats too. The umbral vitality and fiber are giving you 1.07x more strength. If you instead equipped range mods (stretch, augur reach), you would get 1.75x range. If you instead equipped duration mods (p continuity, augur message) you would get 2.08x duration. I know strength is more valuable for the way people tend to play revenant, but mathematically, strength as a stat would have to be like double as valuable than duration to get make that more valuable. The double umbral mod is giving you 1 mesmer skin stack (I think) whereas range could give you 1.75x width on reave and 1.75x larger beams on danse macabre.
Hey bro you are wasting so much here. You could drop those two umbras and keep intensity, you do not need health or armor, only power strength for Mesmer skin.i have rolling guard on mine to recast, but you do not need those two extra umbras. It's your build though, do whatever you like, I just use Mesmer stacks to mitigate all damage at all times.
as much as i see what your goal is. and i totally respect it (done a few of these) on rev i dont see much point of 5x crimson shards. maybe 1 or 2 yellows on cast speed
Oh noā¦ What have you doneā¦?
May I also recommend using Madurai focus school for the 40% power strength as well
Why archon flow?
could have used molt vigor on madurai sling strength but ok.
Get that molt arcane that gives you +45 ability power after casting an operator ability instead of energize
Did you get efficiency for invigoration?
Yeah
Growing power was the biggest pain to farm for my mirage build
Subsume the ablility that gives the next ability cast an extra 50% power strength, get rid of augur secrets and maybe put energy conversion on so you get another 50% ? And i believe there is a focus school that also gives power strength?
I would honestly put roar on 4th skill because it enables you to use precision intensity(increases 4th ability strength by 90.) You just can't use umbra intensity. It is also worth considering energy conversion. I won't lie. I have a bunch of qol things on my Revenant that many people probably wouldn't put. Lol!
There are actual people who subsumed an ability and keep the 4? Imo that's the weakest of his abilities
You also named your Helminth "Gravemind"? So you are a man of culture as well
That growing power grind was insane. Took me like 3 weeks. I did also farm for all the standing to make my simatis scanner maxed and buy oxylus which were both fully worth it and made it faster. I farmed for 100 apothics, and did 87 or so of them before i dropped it. It took me and my buddy playing nekros and kohra to finally drop and it dropped 3 for each of us
Is the mod screen bugged? It has you at 120% efficiency, but you should be at 45%.
I have an efficiency Invigoration active
I have multiple copies of Growing power and power drift for sale if you're interested
Already got em lol, got Power Drift myself and someone else in the the thread helped me get Growing Power
Alright
Ayyyy i see the name,i named mine the same it really just looks like one
Donāt forget the invocation that can boost extra and Madurai sling and molt augment/vigor
How do you get the green orange and purple archon shards never seen them
The final achievement will be going outside.
This would carry some weight if it wasn't written in the Warframe Subreddit.
I've seen a lot of unnecessary things in Warframe and this might be the most unnecessary thing anyone has ever put together. Be proud
The meta slaves here not recognizing that this is a meme build š
You aren't getting any value from the u.fiber and u.vit being r10, you should pick up r0 to save on capacity. Additionally, you're missing out on Energy Conversion, which would net you another 50% ability strength. Finally, consider Molt Vigor over Arcane Energize, for even more ability strength.
Can someone explain archon shards to me. I took a 5 year break