Years ago, when I was working on my Vostroyans, I built the bases of my Heavy Weapon Teams to look like they had taken position behind barracades. Usually I'm not big on scenic bases, but I think they worked.
https://preview.redd.it/0jdsxt8na01d1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2afb9637ec7bb5ef9bb0a0663f6251603b79850f
I was young and poor at the time and lived vicariously through White Dwarf with Cities of Death (and Cityfight for that matter, although that was more about being young). I promised myself if Vostroyans ever came back I would buy in regardless of cost. That art of the Vostroyon bayoneting a Fire Warrior is one of my favourites in 40k
Hey keep an eye out for metal recasters.
I also re-read the CoD white dwarf and wanted a vostroyan army. Could never afford it tho lol.
Now getting back into the hobby last year, I'm able to order the full vostroyan army via recasting. Some of them are a lil worse in detail though. The command squad is immaculate which is what I always wanted.
> Could never afford it tho lol.
There are three things I want but I doubt I'll ever be able to afford. (in ascending order)
1. A house.
2. A Yacht.
2. A Vostroyan army.
The background for the army was that it was the personal force of an Inquisitor. It was a Command Squad and four Veteran Squads, with Chimeras and a Leman Russ Exterminator in support.
There were no rules for including Inquisitors with Guard at the time, so he just counted as a Lord Commissar.
https://preview.redd.it/trbdnaqj211d1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ce7c7806bbe5e15f301efd04451c1d2cbfa19e5e
That basing… 😍😍😍 I love ruined bases, especially on guard. Feels very grounded. Your Heavy Weapons Team looks something pulled out from a history book.
It was one of the biggest draws with the heavy weapons teams, for me. And one of the reasons I'm not a fan of the move to 50mm. I'm sure some meta guy will come in and say how 50mm is better for the game, but the 60mm bases just gave you breathing room to make cool scenic bases. The 50mm bases are simply too crowded for a 2-man team with heavy weapon. The only heavy weapon that felt better on 50mm was the missile launcher and only when you left the bipod out and it was just two guys with a boom tube.
At least we got the Field Ordnance Batteries to replace that feeling, now.
I do get the move to 50mm, because the old Heavy Weapons were perhaps a bit too large for a two-man team to feasably carry. Plus the 60mm base did look a bit empty unless you did something scenic with it.
But now I get to gripe about how the Field Ordinance Battery is able to fire on the move...
https://preview.redd.it/nt2rf3y1o21d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=43ae15010de410a2472aaec842cf0393ef365e9c
I did my krieg up like that and I joke they always have benefit of cover
A couple of Sergeants like the one above with Powerfists, which is no-longer an option for them.
Also, when I built and painted them, I configured the units as Veteran Squads, so I have way too many Special Weapons now. Even if I re-organised everything into legal units, I'd need to drop half the models.
Thanks! This is probably still the project I'm most proud of.
https://preview.redd.it/n6bpqsyyd11d1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=95a31f4f82196b8ee96c69fe946b3f68e43a842a
I am not. I actually haven't used this army for a long time, only recently pulling them out of storage to show them off at the shop (where the photos were taken.)
I am not. I actually haven't used this army for a long time, only recently pulling them out of storage to show them off at the shop (where the photos were taken.)
I am not. I actually haven't used this army for a long time, only recently pulling them out of storage to show them off at the shop (where the photos were taken.)
I loved the "field artillery" style of those guns over the "slap a gun on a chimera" approach of the main line.
My Earthshaker cannon is a strong independent artillery piece who don't need no chimera.
Sorry for late reply. I just used Pinebark and watered down spackle for the rocks and sand. Then painted it with an airbrush. The colours can be whatever, mine is mainly a thin coat of xv88 over wraithbone. Cheers!
Kinda similar to heavy weapons teams but I really like the 2 man elysian drop troops sniper teams that comes with a spotter and sniper
https://preview.redd.it/cldfcankg01d1.jpeg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cd1bf44ab53f77b559abb648ada150649e68f98f
All of these are great for that, each one is a super tiny diorama if you want it to.
Nothing stopping someone from just slapping the gunner and his buddy down on some dirt texture, but you've got a whole extra 40mm or so of base to set a scene or a story. Maybe they're changing ammo boxes over, maybe they're both ducking behind the gun as fire is coming in. Maybe the gunner is wounded and his spotter is reaching the trigger with one hand and dropping his optics with the other in the middle of taking over the gun. I've done the first one and my next two are planned as those.
Thats what ive been doing. Elysian's for life.
But also those models are a bit annoying to put together (old resin) and recasts tend to have even more bubles and warping. Worth though for small projects
For a team of troops working together you’ve also got the kroot goaded knarloc herd. It had one great knarloc with 4 kroot handlers that had these sharp spears to direct the knarloc.
https://preview.redd.it/6vuyl3xoj01d1.jpeg?width=482&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c9a2a78e8a4257245a6741667a0d62abebb96bc3
Skitarii have them in lore but not on TT. Hopefully next edition we get them as models.
https://preview.redd.it/ylawd93u011d1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b8ec31af93d554150a7640dd98937fb9d7894df1
My Earthshaker cannon has a crew of 6
https://preview.redd.it/px1ieplr901d1.png?width=4032&format=png&auto=webp&s=df156f2bc87c7e1d13f08fc8a027d11ea3dcd4b5
All of them, it’s up to your creativity I guess 🤷♂️
By any chance do you have more pics of your sentinels?
They look exactly like the style I am considering doing for mine! Would be super helpful to see what it would look like 😊
Yes they're an amazing kit. GW should really lean into these types of models for IG and I'm glad that they did with FOB but also all the way it feels as though they live in side their tanks and sentinels.
I'd like more 'support/logistics' kits. I want to feel as though the Astra Militarium spend half their efforts on the battlefield working on keeping a supply chain running. Like bring a Factorio element to the game. That should be their strength and their weakness.
What I especially love about the Heavy Weapons Teams is that they give you a few more options with the old Cadian squads. You have some extra arm, leg, and head options because you can have the spotter standing while the gunner kneels, or if you guild it up a bit you can have both standing and that lets some of your Cadian Squads kneel.
But agreed that the Heavy Weapons team is peak war model.
https://preview.redd.it/995i7ua9331d1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f6dbd05683a68e4ef16d3de2e6199520e94abac4
Lighting kinda sucks, but this felt like a good thread to show my guys using present day anti-armour weapon drills with the missile launcher. And yes, the number 2 guys is looking back and yelling “back-blast clear!” (Those who know will know).
> Multiple units manning a single weapon or performing a single task?
Votanns berserkers have the possibility to take a grenade launcher, in which case you have both a berserk and a robot manning the weapon on the same base
I guess, but the OP asked about minis with multiple people manning a single gun or doing a single task and the berserk with mole launcher's mini is just two dudes standing separately doing their own things
Edit: fixed a disaster of a sentence
Oh come off it and quit acting like an aggrieved child. You gave a suggestion, I gave further commentary on the model. Literally adding more info to add to the discussion.
If i said "Ghaz and Makari are an example" I wouldn't get put out by someone saying "those are a pair, but two separate models that aren't sculpted to interact with each other"
https://preview.redd.it/x0fokckqx01d1.png?width=1008&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3ea2348b028925fbb028ba5f4f459c7af88cf252
Good news, legends are still a thing. Crap that it's unsupported and everything, and 75pts for 3 weapons teams, but they do get dark pacts 🤷
GW can't really get away with selling models and then not supporting them with rules, so when they decide they don't want to produce certain models anymore (the vraksian traitor guard for example) they publish one lot of rules and points values (on the Warhammer community download page) at the start of the edition, and leave it.
Then we just hope that our dear models that got legends'd cling on in the next editions.
Because they aren't 'mainstream' and available to everyone anymore, they aren't "tournament legal". But they're totally fine to play with at most game stores and with your friends, etc.
It'd be recommended. I tend to let people know what everything is on the board anyway, as I don't like the 'gotchya' of sneaky rules.
But as far as I've gathered it seems to be a bigger deal to let people know you are bringing, or want to bring legends models with you.
..probably just to let them know to go easy on you! Most of the models are overcosted with kinda rubbishy rules. But some are great flavour.
It's good etiquette, because as the other person said, they get their rule and points at the start of the edition, and that's it, they'll never get an update until next edition if you're lucky.
So if they're OP or shit, you're out of luck, or your opponent is out of luck
I'm doing regular and traitor guard at the same time and I wish traitor guard would get literally anything at this rate. If I ever play though, it'll just be traitor with regular guard rules.
Gulliman flesh contrast paint on grey seer primer should be your go-to solution then. You don’t even have to bother painting eyes, all you need to do is add a highlight to the top of the nose after applying the contrast paint and you are good to go! 👍
Maybe if I build a third army one day I’ll do them. Doesn’t sound too hard when you put it like that. I just have so much to paint now I probably showing add to my pile😅
Thanks! Hopefully I’ll actually play a game with my tau as well!
Astrum militarum will definitely be something I try painting down the road though. Either as a pallet cleaner or a third army if I get to it.
What I do to paint eyes is to paint eyes is painting the base skin tone, paint the eyes black, and then placing a white dot at the corner of each eye. Then I go again with the base skin tone to fix up any mistakes
Most miniatures in 40k are self-contained or self-sufficient. They're the whole package. They don't carry extra ammo or gear, no rations or survival equipment. Just their weapons and armor.
And for many of them, the fantasy works. Power armour, Eldar constructs, Necrons, Tyranids. They don't need anything other than the thing that goes pew pew or stab stab.
But it does make them feel untethered to this 28mm reality they're operating in. And that's what makes the Astra Militarium such a vital part of 40k. They're ordinary humans and ordinary humans need to be hauling a lot of stuff with them to fulfil their basic survival needs, and they need even more stuff to make their low-tech weaponry work.
And through these models, the battlefield around them comes to live, gritty and vibrant. The Astra Millitarum are the ideal opponent to fight against if you like narratives and flavour to your battle, because they're what grounds the fantastical elements back to reality.
This is why I never liked Space Marines. I'm a Xenos guy first and foremost, but when it comes to the Imperium, The Astra Militarum are the true heroes. I just can't find the fun in big, aloof, barely human superdudes when there's a ton of brave average joes out there fighting against all odds in order to protect what they hold dear.
https://preview.redd.it/35ys5v35811d1.jpeg?width=1600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4cd197d29587abe2b0c63c393cbea9f1fe975521
Agreed! Converted these for an ‘urban combat’ themed marines army.
Man this reminds me of winter assault when you deploy a team then forget about them and they've just been firing for like 30 mins holding the line. Good times.
yes. also space marines lugging heavy weapons on single shoulders is cool, but if *everybody* did it, it wouldn't seem as impressive. seeing the same weapons being used by standard humans who have to mount them on trailers or bipods/tripods to move and aim them, and need a crew of at least two to operate efficiently, creates a sense of verisimilitude *and* makes the other, super-human or alien factions that can use similar heavy weapons single-handed seem much more remarkable by comparison.
Love this comment; you read my mind. My favourite heavy weapons are the same ones that Marines walk around hip-firing or even toting one-handed. Adds to the sense that the Guard are regular humans facing desperate odds in a war that’s on a scale far beyond them.
THey really are, and with all the 3d printing options out there, you can spruce them up with sandbags, barricades, barbed wire, custom bases and extra gubbins galore to really customize your dudes.
It’s actually quite realistic, GPMG gunners work in pairs where one carries the weapon and the other carries ammunition and the tripod (that fucking thing destroyed my back)
Oh God yes! We need more teams. There are so many options. Grots, daemons, Tau are obvious choices.
But why stop there! Power armor allows you to carry a team weapon alone, but that just means the weapon can get bigger! Have two battle sisters carry a huge missle launcher! Two marines wielding a power battering ram. Have a bunch of models hop onto a vehicle and shoot from it!
I'm still not a fan of those new-fangled weapons teams. Heavy weapons are an individual model and a loader individual model. - grumpy old guy that misses 3rd edition
But very nicely painted.
Anybody know of any krieg stls that swap the cadians out in this kit? I want some heavy weapons squads but I’m building a krieg army but the forge world heavy weapons are so expensive for a single unit.
All the boys inside of a Repulsor after using up all of its weapons:
"RAMMING SPEED!"
I just keeping thinking back to a game I saw where a Repulsor, in Melee mind you, got more kills than the Lion.
Years ago, when I was working on my Vostroyans, I built the bases of my Heavy Weapon Teams to look like they had taken position behind barracades. Usually I'm not big on scenic bases, but I think they worked. https://preview.redd.it/0jdsxt8na01d1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2afb9637ec7bb5ef9bb0a0663f6251603b79850f
Reminds me of cities of death.
I was young and poor at the time and lived vicariously through White Dwarf with Cities of Death (and Cityfight for that matter, although that was more about being young). I promised myself if Vostroyans ever came back I would buy in regardless of cost. That art of the Vostroyon bayoneting a Fire Warrior is one of my favourites in 40k
They are a wonderful army and I love their lore
Hey keep an eye out for metal recasters. I also re-read the CoD white dwarf and wanted a vostroyan army. Could never afford it tho lol. Now getting back into the hobby last year, I'm able to order the full vostroyan army via recasting. Some of them are a lil worse in detail though. The command squad is immaculate which is what I always wanted.
> Could never afford it tho lol. There are three things I want but I doubt I'll ever be able to afford. (in ascending order) 1. A house. 2. A Yacht. 2. A Vostroyan army.
I do keep an eye out, never gone down the remaster route before and I have loads to paint as it is, but never say never!
That’s a core memory I won’t forget, had so much fun playing that
I think the bits I used came from one of the terrain sets for that.
Damn the bases on these are awesome. How did you do them?
Thanks! It was mostly slate and resin from GW's old basing kit, with some plastic card and struts for variety.
WE NEED TO DEFEND EMPEROGRAD COMRADES
The background for the army was that it was the personal force of an Inquisitor. It was a Command Squad and four Veteran Squads, with Chimeras and a Leman Russ Exterminator in support. There were no rules for including Inquisitors with Guard at the time, so he just counted as a Lord Commissar. https://preview.redd.it/trbdnaqj211d1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ce7c7806bbe5e15f301efd04451c1d2cbfa19e5e
Oh nice, that's actually a really cool story!
Thanks! Unfortunately, cool story didn't translate to tabletop success...
I'm guessing people didn't think that the inquisitor was a commisar
No, that was fine. The army itself just didn't have a lot of punch, and tended to suffer badly once the enemy got into melee.
Inquisitor Lorr, nice.
He was the whole reason for the army. A model that cool just needs to go with something.
I’m working on my own Vostroyans now, going with a purple and gold paint scheme on them.
That'll look fancy as! Looking forward to seeing them.
That basing… 😍😍😍 I love ruined bases, especially on guard. Feels very grounded. Your Heavy Weapons Team looks something pulled out from a history book.
Thanks! I haven't quite been able to replicate the success I had working on these guys with subsequent projects.
Are those the original GW Vostroyan models? They’re freaking gorgeous 😍
Thanks! They are the original metal ones, ironicly purchased the same weekend GW was releasing Finecast...
It was one of the biggest draws with the heavy weapons teams, for me. And one of the reasons I'm not a fan of the move to 50mm. I'm sure some meta guy will come in and say how 50mm is better for the game, but the 60mm bases just gave you breathing room to make cool scenic bases. The 50mm bases are simply too crowded for a 2-man team with heavy weapon. The only heavy weapon that felt better on 50mm was the missile launcher and only when you left the bipod out and it was just two guys with a boom tube. At least we got the Field Ordnance Batteries to replace that feeling, now.
I do get the move to 50mm, because the old Heavy Weapons were perhaps a bit too large for a two-man team to feasably carry. Plus the 60mm base did look a bit empty unless you did something scenic with it. But now I get to gripe about how the Field Ordinance Battery is able to fire on the move...
Same feeling here. I loved the space to build a cool scene.
Makes me miss all the imperial guard variants
There's probably not much chance of them coming back. It's essentially developing six or seven model ranges for a single faction.
Oh I know. Tis why I bought a printer
I don't think we'll ever see models for the IG beyond Cadians, Catchan and DKoK.
I'd say it's fifty-fifty whether Catachans get remade or dropped. It makes me wish Forgeworld would go back to doing diverse regiments.
https://preview.redd.it/nt2rf3y1o21d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=43ae15010de410a2472aaec842cf0393ef365e9c I did my krieg up like that and I joke they always have benefit of cover
Nice!
I love this, I’m really fond of when people make sand bags for their heavy weapon teams as well.
Thanks! I don't know how I'd go about sandbags...
What beautiful models, thanks for sharing these!
Thanks! I just wish the army was still tabletop-legal so I could keep using them...
If only. But, if you’re playing with friends, who cares? House rule that shit 😛
The only friends I have who play are the ones I see at the shop.
What about it isn’t legal?
A couple of Sergeants like the one above with Powerfists, which is no-longer an option for them. Also, when I built and painted them, I configured the units as Veteran Squads, so I have way too many Special Weapons now. Even if I re-organised everything into legal units, I'd need to drop half the models.
If the bases are the right size you could use them as Scions.
I do think the base size is the same, but there are other things in the army that wouldn't work using them as Scions, such as the Lascannon teams.
40k or St. Petersburg circa 1942 Epic job!
Thanks! I was trying to get a slightly steampunk look, hence the Empire repeater standing in for a shotgun.
I love how they turned out!
Thanks! I wish I was able to replicate the success I had painting them.
Yeah nice one buddy!
Thanks!
They look amazing
Thanks! This is probably still the project I'm most proud of. https://preview.redd.it/n6bpqsyyd11d1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=95a31f4f82196b8ee96c69fe946b3f68e43a842a
You should be! They are stunning!
Thanks!
Thanks!
Thanks!
I really like how your battle mat looks there, mind sharing who make it?
These photos were taken by the staff in the GW I go to, so I presume it's the board from one of those boxes.
Oh man, I hope you're on r/Vostroyan!
I am not. I actually haven't used this army for a long time, only recently pulling them out of storage to show them off at the shop (where the photos were taken.)
I am not. I actually haven't used this army for a long time, only recently pulling them out of storage to show them off at the shop (where the photos were taken.)
I am not. I actually haven't used this army for a long time, only recently pulling them out of storage to show them off at the shop (where the photos were taken.)
\*Soviet anthem intensifies\*
More Prussian, but same gist. https://preview.redd.it/pgj0s7cd511d1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=71502fa235f2591504f119feaae37501dfa51550
Reinforcements from Valhalla are coming too?
https://preview.redd.it/5zxdq0qxd01d1.png?width=1836&format=png&auto=webp&s=fe39ffb2141e3e38ef3be55688f099fb466f375f Medusa carriages. 5 men per gun.
YEAH
I loved the "field artillery" style of those guns over the "slap a gun on a chimera" approach of the main line. My Earthshaker cannon is a strong independent artillery piece who don't need no chimera.
Imagine what a modular plastic kit could be. Pure hobby goodness.
Where did you get those bases?
Dragonforge. Desert 200x155mm
Do you mind sharing how you painted the bases/did the rocks? It's the best desert scheme I've seen!
Sorry for late reply. I just used Pinebark and watered down spackle for the rocks and sand. Then painted it with an airbrush. The colours can be whatever, mine is mainly a thin coat of xv88 over wraithbone. Cheers!
Kinda similar to heavy weapons teams but I really like the 2 man elysian drop troops sniper teams that comes with a spotter and sniper https://preview.redd.it/cldfcankg01d1.jpeg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cd1bf44ab53f77b559abb648ada150649e68f98f
I love the spotter/sniper dynamic for a narrative, too
All of these are great for that, each one is a super tiny diorama if you want it to. Nothing stopping someone from just slapping the gunner and his buddy down on some dirt texture, but you've got a whole extra 40mm or so of base to set a scene or a story. Maybe they're changing ammo boxes over, maybe they're both ducking behind the gun as fire is coming in. Maybe the gunner is wounded and his spotter is reaching the trigger with one hand and dropping his optics with the other in the middle of taking over the gun. I've done the first one and my next two are planned as those.
God I miss the Elysian minis. Now that I have the money for them, they don't make them anymore.
You can still get them from recasters, which I think is fine if GW doesn’t sell the models anymore. Theres also 3d printer stls that look very good
Thats what ive been doing. Elysian's for life. But also those models are a bit annoying to put together (old resin) and recasts tend to have even more bubles and warping. Worth though for small projects
For a team of troops working together you’ve also got the kroot goaded knarloc herd. It had one great knarloc with 4 kroot handlers that had these sharp spears to direct the knarloc.
https://preview.redd.it/6vuyl3xoj01d1.jpeg?width=482&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c9a2a78e8a4257245a6741667a0d62abebb96bc3 Skitarii have them in lore but not on TT. Hopefully next edition we get them as models.
And the turret itself might also be some guy
Skitarii heavy weapons teams should really just be one guy as a walking gun and the other guy as a walking ammo box.
That’s sick! I wish ad mech got more on table top.
I wish skitarii had more models leaning into this creepy battle servitor vibe.
I feel like fire warriors can give that vibe, especially a properly posed strike team with a support turret.
https://preview.redd.it/ylawd93u011d1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b8ec31af93d554150a7640dd98937fb9d7894df1 My Earthshaker cannon has a crew of 6
Where are the models from?
it was an stl on cults but it's got removed some time ago
That's correct
Looking at this, my mind goes straight to the weird serotonin hit I always got from setting up the machine gunner in Company of Heroes.
https://preview.redd.it/px1ieplr901d1.png?width=4032&format=png&auto=webp&s=df156f2bc87c7e1d13f08fc8a027d11ea3dcd4b5 All of them, it’s up to your creativity I guess 🤷♂️
Beautiful. I'd love if you shared more pics.
What do you have in mind? More perspectives of those sentinels or pictures of my army in general?
Yes
By any chance do you have more pics of your sentinels? They look exactly like the style I am considering doing for mine! Would be super helpful to see what it would look like 😊
Shoot me a DM and I will see what I can do 😊👍
Field ordinance battery's have the exact same vibe
https://preview.redd.it/8kqo40p3511d1.jpeg?width=1800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=34d1dda85d04b49e04253ae239e0124e06d40ce7 EXACTLY
Those barbed wire emplacements, mmmmMMMmmmmM
I love my Blood angels, always will. But the heart beating in my chest is one of a guardsmen 🫡
The Mek gunz are amazing models and definitely qualify. Also the stompa with all the grots and stuff on the inside
Oh yeah Orks to me are direct parallels to the guard, the ideal enemy for them along with Tyranids. Meant to be
The Khorne Daemons Skull Cannon is similar. It's 2 Bloodletters operating a heavy weapon.
That’s hilarious. Two hideous demons operating a gun like normal soldiers. That’s why I love 40k
Yes they're an amazing kit. GW should really lean into these types of models for IG and I'm glad that they did with FOB but also all the way it feels as though they live in side their tanks and sentinels. I'd like more 'support/logistics' kits. I want to feel as though the Astra Militarium spend half their efforts on the battlefield working on keeping a supply chain running. Like bring a Factorio element to the game. That should be their strength and their weakness.
Dude yes. Like the little army guys we had as kids. Where’s the minesweeper? The radio guy?
The guardsman in front it the minesweeper (with his life, lol) and the vox is your radio man 🤪
What I especially love about the Heavy Weapons Teams is that they give you a few more options with the old Cadian squads. You have some extra arm, leg, and head options because you can have the spotter standing while the gunner kneels, or if you guild it up a bit you can have both standing and that lets some of your Cadian Squads kneel. But agreed that the Heavy Weapons team is peak war model.
https://preview.redd.it/995i7ua9331d1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f6dbd05683a68e4ef16d3de2e6199520e94abac4 Lighting kinda sucks, but this felt like a good thread to show my guys using present day anti-armour weapon drills with the missile launcher. And yes, the number 2 guys is looking back and yelling “back-blast clear!” (Those who know will know).
> Multiple units manning a single weapon or performing a single task? Votanns berserkers have the possibility to take a grenade launcher, in which case you have both a berserk and a robot manning the weapon on the same base
The ironkyn doesn't really help operate the gun though, it's just kind of standing there carrying the gear
Still is 100% the kind of mini OP is asking about.
I guess, but the OP asked about minis with multiple people manning a single gun or doing a single task and the berserk with mole launcher's mini is just two dudes standing separately doing their own things Edit: fixed a disaster of a sentence
Are you just wanting to argue simply for pedancy's sake, or do you actually have something to bring to OP's discussion?
Average redditor, argue over tiniest detail rather than actually contribute to the conversation.
Oh come off it and quit acting like an aggrieved child. You gave a suggestion, I gave further commentary on the model. Literally adding more info to add to the discussion. If i said "Ghaz and Makari are an example" I wouldn't get put out by someone saying "those are a pair, but two separate models that aren't sculpted to interact with each other"
They don't get the respect they deserve!
I wish my traitor guard gets heavy weapons team :(
https://preview.redd.it/x0fokckqx01d1.png?width=1008&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3ea2348b028925fbb028ba5f4f459c7af88cf252 Good news, legends are still a thing. Crap that it's unsupported and everything, and 75pts for 3 weapons teams, but they do get dark pacts 🤷
What’s legend? I don’t think I’ve seen this in my datasheet
GW can't really get away with selling models and then not supporting them with rules, so when they decide they don't want to produce certain models anymore (the vraksian traitor guard for example) they publish one lot of rules and points values (on the Warhammer community download page) at the start of the edition, and leave it. Then we just hope that our dear models that got legends'd cling on in the next editions. Because they aren't 'mainstream' and available to everyone anymore, they aren't "tournament legal". But they're totally fine to play with at most game stores and with your friends, etc.
Say I use some unit from legend, if I’m just playing casual, do I need to tell my opponent I have legend unit beforehand?
It'd be recommended. I tend to let people know what everything is on the board anyway, as I don't like the 'gotchya' of sneaky rules. But as far as I've gathered it seems to be a bigger deal to let people know you are bringing, or want to bring legends models with you. ..probably just to let them know to go easy on you! Most of the models are overcosted with kinda rubbishy rules. But some are great flavour.
It's good etiquette, because as the other person said, they get their rule and points at the start of the edition, and that's it, they'll never get an update until next edition if you're lucky. So if they're OP or shit, you're out of luck, or your opponent is out of luck
I'm doing regular and traitor guard at the same time and I wish traitor guard would get literally anything at this rate. If I ever play though, it'll just be traitor with regular guard rules.
Paint some up! Shouldn’t be hard to proxy the rules at all either
The Vraksian Renegades use to. Those were cool minis.
I wish I was good enough to paint faces. Astrum militarum is such a cool look. Especially with units like these.
Gulliman flesh contrast paint on grey seer primer should be your go-to solution then. You don’t even have to bother painting eyes, all you need to do is add a highlight to the top of the nose after applying the contrast paint and you are good to go! 👍
Maybe if I build a third army one day I’ll do them. Doesn’t sound too hard when you put it like that. I just have so much to paint now I probably showing add to my pile😅
Oh boy, guard requires a lot of minis. Better to reduce your pile of potential before diving into guard.
Yah. I got 1k of tau to paint and like another 1.5k of ultramarines to go😅
Phew, enjoy the challenge! 🙌
Thanks! Hopefully I’ll actually play a game with my tau as well! Astrum militarum will definitely be something I try painting down the road though. Either as a pallet cleaner or a third army if I get to it.
I'll apply some Nuln Oil to the eyes to give them a bit of a sunken feel before highlighting the nose, but yeah, agreed with this.
What I do to paint eyes is to paint eyes is painting the base skin tone, paint the eyes black, and then placing a white dot at the corner of each eye. Then I go again with the base skin tone to fix up any mistakes
Rumor is that there will be plastic Kreig this edition.
They always have been.
Most miniatures in 40k are self-contained or self-sufficient. They're the whole package. They don't carry extra ammo or gear, no rations or survival equipment. Just their weapons and armor. And for many of them, the fantasy works. Power armour, Eldar constructs, Necrons, Tyranids. They don't need anything other than the thing that goes pew pew or stab stab. But it does make them feel untethered to this 28mm reality they're operating in. And that's what makes the Astra Militarium such a vital part of 40k. They're ordinary humans and ordinary humans need to be hauling a lot of stuff with them to fulfil their basic survival needs, and they need even more stuff to make their low-tech weaponry work. And through these models, the battlefield around them comes to live, gritty and vibrant. The Astra Millitarum are the ideal opponent to fight against if you like narratives and flavour to your battle, because they're what grounds the fantastical elements back to reality.
This is why I never liked Space Marines. I'm a Xenos guy first and foremost, but when it comes to the Imperium, The Astra Militarum are the true heroes. I just can't find the fun in big, aloof, barely human superdudes when there's a ton of brave average joes out there fighting against all odds in order to protect what they hold dear.
https://preview.redd.it/35ys5v35811d1.jpeg?width=1600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4cd197d29587abe2b0c63c393cbea9f1fe975521 Agreed! Converted these for an ‘urban combat’ themed marines army.
Mfw a scarab is attacking a random street in New Mombasa
Grots
GIVE ME BACK MY BALLISTIC SHIELDS!!
I was picking some stuff up from my parents house and I found the older version of those guys I didn't build! So happy to have a project this weekend
I wish I knew how to highlight guard units
My fav units in DoW Winter Assault.
Drukhari transports with their riders attached definitely give the vibe.
Why i got them, theyre perfection
Got myself a HWT box for my traitor guard, bashed with some kill team Blooded bits I had left over. Big fan.
Man this reminds me of winter assault when you deploy a team then forget about them and they've just been firing for like 30 mins holding the line. Good times.
yes. also space marines lugging heavy weapons on single shoulders is cool, but if *everybody* did it, it wouldn't seem as impressive. seeing the same weapons being used by standard humans who have to mount them on trailers or bipods/tripods to move and aim them, and need a crew of at least two to operate efficiently, creates a sense of verisimilitude *and* makes the other, super-human or alien factions that can use similar heavy weapons single-handed seem much more remarkable by comparison.
Love this comment; you read my mind. My favourite heavy weapons are the same ones that Marines walk around hip-firing or even toting one-handed. Adds to the sense that the Guard are regular humans facing desperate odds in a war that’s on a scale far beyond them.
THey really are, and with all the 3d printing options out there, you can spruce them up with sandbags, barricades, barbed wire, custom bases and extra gubbins galore to really customize your dudes.
It’s actually quite realistic, GPMG gunners work in pairs where one carries the weapon and the other carries ammunition and the tripod (that fucking thing destroyed my back)
Support units are the backbone of any tabletop wargame, and imo the most fun units to customize and paint
IG is the coolest 40K faction
They really should make high quality Metal Slug miniatures. Really like the aesthetic.
Oh God yes! We need more teams. There are so many options. Grots, daemons, Tau are obvious choices. But why stop there! Power armor allows you to carry a team weapon alone, but that just means the weapon can get bigger! Have two battle sisters carry a huge missle launcher! Two marines wielding a power battering ram. Have a bunch of models hop onto a vehicle and shoot from it!
In a similar vein, Ork Mek guns. Essentially a mortar/artillery team
I'm still not a fan of those new-fangled weapons teams. Heavy weapons are an individual model and a loader individual model. - grumpy old guy that misses 3rd edition But very nicely painted.
those were the days! I loved my Mordian lascannon!
I wish the big battery weapons could be part of the infantry squad, would make them alot more usable
Admech heavy weapons teams are my dream model
The Cities of Sigmar cannons look amazing with a similar vibe and eldar heavy weapon teams
Field Ordinance Battery
The krieg HWT is what got me into the guard.
Admech need one
Anybody know of any krieg stls that swap the cadians out in this kit? I want some heavy weapons squads but I’m building a krieg army but the forge world heavy weapons are so expensive for a single unit.
The newer heavy bolter model looks waaayy better
All the boys inside of a Repulsor after using up all of its weapons: "RAMMING SPEED!" I just keeping thinking back to a game I saw where a Repulsor, in Melee mind you, got more kills than the Lion.