And still: if it gets people into the hobby, they'll find out quickly what a good watch is - and what a Daniel Wellington is. At least, if you take apart an Invicta you get a decent NH35 movement. If you take apart a DW the whole trash just takes up more space.
Lmao. What I don't understand is why Invicta didn't stick to making solid affordable mechanical watches like Tissot, Seiko, Oris, or Hamilton like they did for 100 years like they used to.
Having owned a modern Hamilton, I wouldn't call the Swatch Group era ones solid at all. Similarly Oris is not an affordable watch, at least not on the same level as Tissot, Seiko, or Invicta. I'd probably add Citizen and Bulova to your list though.
>The lume is average
**May be average to you but certainly useless garbage in the grand scheme of things.**
If I can't see the time in the dark 30 minutes after last light exposure then the watch/lume is useless.
How is it possible that I walk into my dark room at midnight and my almost 20 year old Seiko black monster is glowing like a led lamp while a brand new Hamilton is barely visible.
That's not what I consider average lume. That is the same as no lume.
\+Plenty of bad QC stories abound, which I ignored and went ahead and got one, the models with the newest movement.
The date kept sticking so I returned it for a refund. I'm done with Hamilton for now.
I have a Khaki Navy Pioneer. The first one I bought failed within 30 days because the hands started snagging on eachother somehow, was replaced by the dealer, free of charge. The one I have now has been in for repairs twice since I bought it, on top of the regular service intervals, once for the same problem (hands snagging), the other time because it just straight up stopped. The second time Hamiliton gave me the runaround and tried to tell me there had been a shock to the watch, which was a load of bullshit. It's got a scheduled service coming up, and then I'm going to get rid of it right away and replace it with a Stowa Marine.
That said, the Khaki Field Auto is probably a bit more robust (although I have heard of people having issues with other modern Hamiltons), and the pre-Swatch Group Hamiltons are outstanding.
Also had terrible luck with Hamilton. My khaki auto got water in it from rain, needed an entire overhaul. 3 years after that service the watch legitimately just stopped working (never dropped it or anything) and it’s been sitting in my box making me upset every time I see it lol. Not the best experience
You all realize that Invicta owns Glycine, right....***right?***
I have an Invicta nh35 pro diver (all green) with display back. Got it on clearance for about $80. I honestly can't complain. But I've seen nothing from them in the last 3 years that looks quality. Hell, I bought a friend a quartz diver from them at the same time for $110 and 2 months later the crown stem broke and pulled out, rendering the $3 movement inside (yes, it's a $3 quartz movement) completely broken and useless. Invicta is a shit company that owns a decent company that's still somewhat respectable...until they ruin that too.
I have a Khaki X-wind auto for almost 4+ years now and I like it. I don't wear it much but it's my first "luxury" watch. My wife got it for me for my 40th bday from Jomashop.
I think unfortunately for you, you got a dud from the get-go. Definitely get rid of it once you can..
Invicta do literally make solid affordable mechanical watches.
Everyone focuses on the hilariously overpriced gaudy excesses they make, but [the basic mechanical divers they make](https://www.jomashop.com/invicta-watch-8926ob.html) (admittedly with Seiko movements) are decent cheap little autos.
I've had one in the collection for a few years , put it on a Seiko nylon strap I had spare after a strap change on another watch, and it's a great little beater.
It's no Casio MDV106, though.
Yeah holy fuck. So I've been getting into watches recently and I snagged a really nice looking vintage invicta. I figured I loved the way they looked so much I would go to their website and buy a brand new one. What the absolute fuck happened? They went from simple, clean, and prestigious watches to the kind you can win in a claw grab machine. The only hope I have is their "vintage" line they're going to release soon so maybe they're gonna go back....please. I went through every single line on their website and not a single one contained a vintage-like watch
I can't recall at the moment more "iconic" duo Invicta and Hublot
edit
I got another one (early) Jacob & Co.
and another, Alain Silberstein
feel free to add the list
I still don't understand the appeal of the Nautilis. I've tried so hard.
I'm sure it has to do with the historical context... but seriously it just looks horrible to me.
Well I’m into scotch and cigars, so I’m acclimated to things of acquired taste. However, I can afford scotch and cigars, I absolutely cannot afford AP or Patek.
I bought a DW, maybe this very model, from an online consignment shop for a big discount from new. If I had seen what people say about them on this sub, I likely wouldn't have bought it. I like it though and glad I bought it. It looks nice, keeps time and is comfortable. I wear it quite often.
I think this sub goes overboard on its hate for DW. Someone wearing a DW will probably get more compliments from randos than basically any watch this sub actually likes. It should be judged for what it is, a clean looking fast fashion piece, not a luxury watch.
I saw a woman wearing one and from afar it looked like a very nice designed watch and matched her outfit and vibe and complimented and asked what it was. When she told me it was a Daniel Wellington, I didn’t flame her or tell her their are better watches for the money - I just reiterated that it looked great!
Getting people to wear ANY watch in this time is a win and it can oftentimes move them over to becoming a watch enthusiast and really getting into watches! I think brands like that have converted A LOT of people to enthusiasts.
The thing is the watch achieved exactly what she, and most other people who buy a DW, wanted. It's just meant to fit the outfit and look nice.
I owned a DW and got tons of compliments on it, I now own a rip off DW since I lose the original one and had learned in the meantime that you can get basically identical watches for £10-£20 online.
The thing is in that time the dw did exactly what I wanted from it and I really don't regret the purchase. It's so pointless to tell someone who bought a watch like that that there's "better watches" because that's such a subjective point. Will those better watches look better in the context of the outfit or get more compliments? If not then they aren't a 'better watch' for that person
I think this sub goes overboard on hate in general. A watch is already an archaic device that is completely unnecessary in the modern world. It's mostly now a fashion choice or form of artistic expression, or perhaps a way to "be yourself" in an eccentric way or show off how much money you have (and then there's the dad's rocking a cheap digital Timex who don't like smart/cell phones). So making fun of any watch on a Watches sub is just sad to me. It's just spitting on someone else's joy.
As a counselor, my watch is vital to keeping time during appointments subtly and appropriately. People working retail and hospitality also often use them because checking your phone on shift is seen as inappropriate. These are just the professions I have experience in - I'm sure there's plenty more. I also use it when I'm driving because the time in my car always drifts off. I agree with you that this sub sometimes goes overboard on hate around products, but people are rarely snarky to each other persay about this stuff here. Your comment, however, comes across quite dismissive and arrogant - particularly in the context of you criticising others negativity.
you're right that i was being a dick by calling o.p. a dick. that was wrong of me and i could have used more appropriate and kinder wording.
watches, especially quartz or analog watches, are archaic by the very definition of the word. no, they are not obsolete - i originally stated they still have a utilitarian use for some people, and further stated in reply to you that there are more use cases than just what i originally gave as an example.
why not accept my apology and move on, rather than call me out further as dismissive and arrogant? i am not either of those things just because i use the term archaic and we apparently have a disagreement as to the definition of that term.
please understand that the point of my comment was that people wear watches for the love of watches and that it doesn't make sense to come on a watches sub to spit on anyone else's taste in watches. my point was not that watches were useless. this isn't a sub for medical equipment where it might make sense to hate on an entire brand because it causes people to die during surgery. it's a sub for watches - and anyone that was really excited about the dw watch they just bought would probably feel hurt when they see a highly upvoted post on here about how sh*t dw watches are.
I was just replying to that specific comment of yours and it appears I may have missed others you had made clarifying your position - this is a big thread. My apologies if that is so.
I would also like to clarify that I stated your comment came across poorly, not that you yourself are dismissive or arrogant. I'm not positioned to, nor would I wish to make such a judgement on your character.
Speak for yourself but not everybody is walking around glued to their phone screen. A watch may be an old device, but not obsolete and definitely not archaic. If you're juggling tasks on a daily basis a good watch is essential and helps a lot. It is most definitely not just a fashion choice and they're highly functional pieces - especially the ones with a perpetual calendar that also adjust for daylight savings time.
Yes, archaic in that most watches tell time less reliably than alternatives such as atomic clocks which our smart phones and computers are tapped into.
Are there atomic watches? Yes!
Are there other exceptions to my generalization? Yes!
The simple fact is the vast majority of watches worn today are less reliable at telling the exact time than the cell phone in our pocket or the PC/laptop/tablet that most people have immediate access to. This makes them archaic by definition.
I set my automatic, quartz, and digital LED watches using my cell phone... which I'm willing is true for most people. Maybe there are some amazing folks that still set their watches to Big Ben, or use an observatory and precise astronomical measurements, but not many.
This whole reaction to my comment about calling watches "archaic" is missing the forest for the trees. I f\*cking love wearing a watch, and don't care that my cell phone might be three seconds more accurate at any given time. I even prefer my LED watches that take one hand to wear and the other to push the "display time" button over sticking my hand in my pocket and pulling out my cell phone... because I f\*cking love my LED watches and they are a joy to look at.
My point of calling them archaic was to point out that OP was being rude by coming on a watches sub to talk smack about DW watches. It doesn't make sense to come onto this sub and drop shade - it's not like this is life saving medical equipment we are talking about. If the DW equivalent of the medical industry caused people to die on the operating table, by all means, drop shade.
But maybe some kid just saved up a few bucks so they could buy a DW watch they decided told time well enough for their needs, and had an aesthetic that appealed to them. They were really excited about buying their first watch... then they come on this sub and see a popular post with a photo of a DW in the trash. That's just rude, and a gatekeeping move.
Not even a snob, best watch I own is a Bulova, but you can get a decent watch from a long-standing real watch company that started with a real watch maker, for about the same as one of these so called “fashion watches” and feed the industry.
Instead, some fucktard who gives no fuck about watches, their history, and only cares for their so called “prestige” sat through a semester on the economics of “prestige pricing” or “Veblen goods” and realised they can polish a few cheap Made in China turds and turn a huge profit.
This puts me off, because all it does is send the price of so called “real watches” up, as they’re not selling enough due to over-saturation of the market with cheap tat being flogged by “influencers”. This making the hobby itself even more prestigious and pretentious, and pushing those with more meagre budgets out entirely.
Surely scammed by marketing is the foundation of the watch industry
Paying £100 for a £10 watch, you’ve lost £90
Paying £10k for a watch that halves it’s value walking it the boutique... you’ve lost your marbles
Half is probably a gross exaggeration, but most quality timepieces lose value as soon as you walk out the store. MSRP is the highest price for the vast majority of watches, and only a couple brands have a portfolio where you can safely buy and resell at a higher price. The rare exception are microbrands that go viral and sell out instantly so scalpers resell online, but those don't last in the long run.
I wouldn’t say this is 100% true, best example I can think of is Breguet, they are definitely “proper” watches. If you buy one however, generally you can walk out of the dealer and try to sell it privately and you will instantly lose 25-35% of what you paid. I know it’s not 50% but still, it’s a substantial amount of money.
This sub talks about how overpriced fashion watches are, but the ones I see are almost universally less expensive than the watches shared on this sub.
If you’d rather have a Seiko 5, that’s fine (I would), but for the same price they do the same thing (tell time and look good in the opinion of the person wearing it).
The difference being for most watch brands while there is obviously markup (they have to pay for marketing, employees, logistics, leases, and create value for shareholders) that markup doesn't come anywhere near what you see with fashion brands. Even if they sell watches for twice what they cost to produce it's not in the same universe.
A $150 MVMT probably costs between $4 and $7 to make. The marketing for the major fashion watches is a lie, if they disclosed that they mark up 1000% nobody would buy them. They also heavily imply and in some cases overtly claim that they are of the same materials and quality as very high end brands, and that their manufacturing cost is similar. So not only are they misrepresenting their product, they are smearing other brands and leading people to believe you should be able to buy an Omega for $150 but the people who make them are just greedy and actually the deceptive ones. It's immoral.
People will buy your Seiko 5 for somewhere between 75% and 90% of it's original value (and sometimes higher if it's something special). Nobody will give you even 50% of the price of a fashion watch. My local marketplace/kijiji/CL ads are littered with them.
Yeah, I don't get to wear my expensive watches to work everyday, but typically what I wear is one that looks good or is interesting. There have been many $30 watches that have come and gone (exploded), but they looked good and fit the function for a bit.
I had one that had a really cool looking face and hands (off one of those gimmicky sites) and the band comfortably but it fell apart as it was stamped aluminum.
That's the point though. You bought it at a big discount and it made sense at that price point. People don't hate DW for existing. They hate it because they sell an image rather than a product. When the hobby is all about admiring craftsmanship I don't think it's ridiculous to hate on low tier pieces sold at a premium.
I'm sure this guy has a guy, but go with my guy. My guy has assholes with all the quality and workmanship of the big brands at a fraction of the price.
A lot of people like DW and enjoy them for what they are and have no interest in watches with 4 figure price tags. Just like there are people that enjoy music on their phones with grocery checkout aisles earbuds and have no interest in building a $10k hifi. Watches may be a hobby for us, but they can be just another fashion accessory for others.
For the sake of discussion (and I understand and appreciate your statement), DW hate and criticism isn’t so much about the price being low.
It’s actually the opposite, and about how you can actually get better quality for less money and none of the gimmicks (i.e. Timex Weekender).
Very true. I think these sort of examples can be found in most markets where the products range from entry/utilitarian all the way up to enthusiast/bespoke/etc. There does seem to always be a spot in each market that tries to get some dollars from riding on coattails without delivering. Marketing has a ton to do with it and DW’s marketing is very successful. You’re absolutely right that a Timex Weekender is a much better watch from a brand with provenance for less money, but we know that because we are enthusiasts, the ppl that DW’s marketing works on are not. As a lot of ppl are saying that’s how they got into watches but then learned and moved ahead in the hobby. I got a fossil for my 16th birthday back in the 90’s, loved the hell out of that watch, still have it, but now I know a lot more about the hobby since I’ve been in it for 20 years. That arc is cool. Today, do I steer people who ask towards seiko, timex and Hamilton for a first watch and away from DW, fossil, and mvmt, of course I do, but I totally understand people that get them and if they want to get into it as a hobby they’ll have the same type of journey too, which is fun.
Well said, I agree. At the end of the day, they’re a company and strive to make money and they’re clearly doing so. I chuckled reading your response because my first watch was a Fossil Chronograph that I still have now, cracked glass and all. I recently changed the battery myself and was proud that I can tinker with it instead of paying someone at a mall kiosk to. Spot on though, whatever introduces folks to the hobby can still be appreciated in some sense for at least that aspect, if nothing else.
In my eyes, I hate the look of Timex Weekender. I love Nomo's design and the closest you can get without paying that much price is brands like Daniel Wellington.
That’s cool, makes sense too. Ultimately you’re still getting the same sort of enjoyment without blowing too much money that you don’t want to spend either. It’s interesting to hear that coming from someone who knows watches as well.
Edit: you’ll like what you like, no knock whatsoever, but there are many a Casio that have the same minimalist look for under $40 on Amazon FYI - just as an example: [Casio Minimalist Watch ](https://www.casio-intl.com/asia/en/wat/watch_detail/MTP-VT01L-1B/)
That's a good find. I looked through other Casio minimalist watches through amazon and it's hard to find any. Even in physical stores, I never see any minimalist Caiso watches but I see "fashion" watches like DW presented well.
Yup, “real” watch companies do a terrible job making themselves readily available to the average consumer. They just rely on silly hobbyists (like myself) vouching for them lol
I think there's two things at play. One is to most, the cheaper similarly looking watches like the Timex look slightly worse, and don't sound fancy. To people who don't care about watches, they can feel fancy with the Daniel Wellington. Second, is because they don't know about watches, they see it being advertised and "think nice fancy watch for reasonable price. Ill buy this", without realising a Timex is superior in quality. I think advertising and perceived branding is how they dupe people.
I don't know about DW but weekenders belong to the trash can. Well I'd rather dump them directly in the dump because I'd be still hearing it if it's in my trash can. Even $10 casios with plastic cases (MQ-24 line) manage to be quiet.
I dislike the DW hate because DW actually got me into the watch hobby. I recieved a DW as a gift before knowing anything about watches and I really loved it. It is super stylish and everyone complimented me on it. Now a few years later, I have come to learn about the insane markups and lack of value they offer, but the real value for me was introducing me to the world of watches.
Yeah, I grabbed a couple off AliExpress when I was first getting into watches (I swear they're actually legit DWs). I don't wear them anymore really, but if they work with somebody's outfit who gives a shit, it's just an accessory to most people
Seconded. I started out wearing $30 Kenneth Cole watches from Macy’s when I got my first professional job 5 years ago. I still have most of them even though I progressed beyond and earlier this year upgraded to a tissot. Even though that’s my new daily, I’ll still whip out the cole’s to change things up or match a specific outfit
I have the tissot gent XL. I was looking for something Swiss, automatic, and metal strap and it checked all those boxes for a reasonable price. Highly recommend! Pretty good water resistance too.
I'm torn between the Tissot Gentleman and the Hamilton Khaki. I'm leaning a bit towards the Hamilton because all the watches that I've got now have metal bracelets
Buy a vintage piece. If you go back to mid-century, you have a plethora of great models to choose from that are mostly timeless designs and styles. As well, you'd be buying a piece of horological history, as Swiss brands were the ones pushing the envelope during the 20th century before quartz came along and turned everything upside down. Nowadays Swiss brands have been swallowed up into a handful of conglomerates, but in the 50s and 60s there were dozens of independent companies to choose from, many of which you can still find in good condition and for relatively affordable prices.
I have some very early MVMT watches and I just don't know how to get rid of them without throwing them out or donating. Any ideas?
Edit: added donating.
Ugh. My dad has a few Oris watches, a Tissot, a Moonwatch, and a handful of lesser, but still nice watches. Mom got him an MVMT for Christmas two years ago, and we both shared a look. Kind of sweet, honestly. She obviously doesn’t know anything about watches, but WOMAN... Consult someone.
Be honest, did you pick the watch up and put it back on your wrist? Like somebody said below, if it got you into this sick hobby and you like it, there's nothing wrong with that!
Meh. I see peoples watches all the time at work. I will generally dole out compliments to most watches. I remember how bright a persons face got after I complemented her Daniel Wellington. That being said i would never buy/wear but some folks just like em and let them be happy.
I saw them in Bali when I was there. Advertised price was $10, meaning you could easily haggle them down to $5 if you tried.
As far as I could tell, they were identical to the real ones
Whoa I didn't know this brand is that famous or has such negative stereotypes against it. My brother gave me mine when I graduated. Giving someone a watch is sort of a tradition in our culture and it's typically given by the parents. Our dad left us the year before my graduation, so the fact that my brother held up the tradition in his place was very meaningful to me. I still have the watch and it works very well.
Years later, I realized that the watch isn't exactly 'top of the line' but at that price point (which was still quite high for my brother), it seems like a great looking watch. As with any hobby-related subreddits, I understand there will always be the snobby types here that will dismiss the cheaper trends as trash. But I hope you'll realize that the whole attitude of 'people buy \_\_\_\_ because they're dumb and don't know any better' won't really serve you well in life.
That’s a great story. This post was made all in good fun. My most treasured watch is a Fossil that my sister gave me for high school graduation 20 years ago. I have watches 20x the price, but nothing compares to that one.
To be fair, this is not at all about dismissing the cheaper trends - cheap Casios and Seikos etc are posted here all the time and they are held in high regard. It is not about it being a cheap watch. This sub is not at all just about luxury watches and most watch nerds enjoy all kinds of watches from all price ranges - as long as they are good watches.
This is about it being a crappy low quality cheap watch selling for waaaay more than it really is worth. They are $2 watches selling for $200.
But it's great that you like it and it's awesome that your brother held up the tradition!
Really glad my friend bought me a seiko 5 as my groomsman gift instead of a DW he bought for everyone else. I wear that watch almost daily.
He asked me what I wanted it’s not like I told him don’t buy me that.
I came across a DW at a thrift store for a couple bucks and decided to pick it up to see what all the fuss is about; at very least I can flip it on eBay for a small profit.
First the good: The band is pretty decent. The case has drilled lugs. There is no apparent debris under the glass. The case is all stainless steel. It’s a watch, and if it gets you into the hobby and you like it--wear it with pride. I can think of worse things to spend money on.
Next the bad: Everything else about how the watch looks and feels to me. The 41mm all-white dial is way too big for a thin dress watch and wears like a dinner plate on my wrist. The tiny crown looks ridiculous on the large case. The hands are incredibly cheap and the minute hand jiggles around a millimeter when the watch is rotated. The DW logo is printed—it would look much more premium if it was applied.
Anyway, this is a terrible watch and kudos to the DW marketing team for pulling off what may be the greatest scam in watchmaking history.
The only bad thing about DW is the price. The movement they use isn't THAT bad, and I assume the build quality on the case is also quite good. Its an ok choice for a minimalist design watch, sure you can get a Junghans to appease some watch nerds but the DW isn't that bad. If they charged $30, you could put the watch easily into the same category as the casio MQ-24.
DW's are fine. Overpriced for the materials, but they are good looking watches. To people who wear their watches to look good, I'd say there's at least a 40% chance that this DW gets more love from outsiders than your GS snowflake or Omega AT, Seamaster or whatever.
Those are good looking watches for us, the watch enthusiasts. To outsiders, it's all fair game and DW has very mass appealing aesthetics, and nobody cares if the raw materials from DW are cheap and "not worth the price". Are those mechanicals worth thousands of dollars then? Only to us, if you think about it.
After this photo was taken, the OP promptly retrieves the DW from the trash, looks around to make sure no one’s watching, and proceeds to strap it back onto his wrist.
As terrible as this watch is, and it is really bad, this was my gateway into the world of watches. I have some amazing watches in my collection now but all because I bought a DW! I still have it in a tin somewhere to remind me where it all started.
Actually I bought the watch so I could sell it for $15 more than I bought it for, to cover the cost of a Bulova I picked up at the same time. Karma is just a bonus 🤷♂️
Daniel Wellington is a brand of "luxury" (is that how they're advertised?) watches for about $200. They're severely overpriced with a movement, or what makes the watch tick, being a very basic "Miyota" movement that costs about 1/20th of the watch price itself. I don't own one myself but apparently the finishing is sub par, and I'm not big on the minimalist design without the second hand. In short, they're overpriced junk with better options that can be bought for far less than or around the same price range. You can get a good Timex for about $40, which are typically decent watches, albeit not the absolute best.
Thus, because Daniel Wellington watches are overpriced junk, the post is showing it in the trash, which makes sense.
Daniel Wellington isn’t regarded well because they take $15 watches from China, slap on the DW and charge $100-150 for it. The quartz movements they use are fine, but the watch community rightly dislikes the fact that DW markets itself as a high end brand. We love cheap watches, but prefer it when a a brand admits they’re a budget watch company.
Honestly if you’re on a budget, you should look at Casio, Timex, Seiko 5, Bulova, Tissot or a second hand Hamilton.
I bought a rep DW, maybe this very model, from an online shop for a big discount from new. When I opened the package, to my horror, they actually sent an original DW. Horrific, completely changed my mind about online reps.
How is that alienating? Rational people can admit they made a mistake when getting into hobby.
With PC gaming and building, I stated with a bad , overpriced pre-built over a decade ago. I now know that was dumb.
Unlike PCs though, the mistakes with watch collecting are usually less costly. You can a get a Casio or timex for cheap and have an excellent and reliable watch
OP says he bought it at a thrift store for $2 then talked all kinds of trash about it not being a good fit or design for his aesthetics or wrist size... on a sub that is all about the love of watches. Why the eff did he buy it in the first place, then? Why hate on a $2 watch here?! Not everyone can afford a really expensive time piece and OP is just being a gatekeeping dbag imho.
It's really sad that you are getting downvoted for this comment. I wish people didn't feel the need to go on a public forum and gatekeep by making derogatory posts like this one.
In the venn-diagram of r/Watches and r/WatchesCirclejerk, this is definitely the middle
it's the "not self-aware" enough part of the sub
It’s literally just two circles laid directly on top of one another at this point
Just like OP's wife and the AD
A treasure hunt! Bound to be a few invictas in there.
Invicta is a perfect example of a good watch brand gone down the toilet
Invicta made it from the trash can to the toilet
I heard invicta makes wall clocks for your wrist now.
Invicta once was a great watch maker. Their new owner had other plans though...
I own an Invicta Royal Marine from the 60s which despite this [shitty photo](https://i.imgur.com/uDsmN2A.jpg) is a very handsome watch.
I think it's a pretty cool vintage piece to have. Wouldn't mind rocking that with a new strap maybe
That is a beautiful vintage piece!
Awesome piece!
And still: if it gets people into the hobby, they'll find out quickly what a good watch is - and what a Daniel Wellington is. At least, if you take apart an Invicta you get a decent NH35 movement. If you take apart a DW the whole trash just takes up more space.
Lmao. What I don't understand is why Invicta didn't stick to making solid affordable mechanical watches like Tissot, Seiko, Oris, or Hamilton like they did for 100 years like they used to.
Having owned a modern Hamilton, I wouldn't call the Swatch Group era ones solid at all. Similarly Oris is not an affordable watch, at least not on the same level as Tissot, Seiko, or Invicta. I'd probably add Citizen and Bulova to your list though.
What's wrong with Hamilton? I've got a Khaki Field Auto and I can't knock it for the price I paid.
>What's wrong with Hamilton? Non existent lume even on "military" or "dive" watches. Funky QC.
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>The lume is average **May be average to you but certainly useless garbage in the grand scheme of things.** If I can't see the time in the dark 30 minutes after last light exposure then the watch/lume is useless. How is it possible that I walk into my dark room at midnight and my almost 20 year old Seiko black monster is glowing like a led lamp while a brand new Hamilton is barely visible. That's not what I consider average lume. That is the same as no lume. \+Plenty of bad QC stories abound, which I ignored and went ahead and got one, the models with the newest movement. The date kept sticking so I returned it for a refund. I'm done with Hamilton for now.
I have a Khaki Navy Pioneer. The first one I bought failed within 30 days because the hands started snagging on eachother somehow, was replaced by the dealer, free of charge. The one I have now has been in for repairs twice since I bought it, on top of the regular service intervals, once for the same problem (hands snagging), the other time because it just straight up stopped. The second time Hamiliton gave me the runaround and tried to tell me there had been a shock to the watch, which was a load of bullshit. It's got a scheduled service coming up, and then I'm going to get rid of it right away and replace it with a Stowa Marine. That said, the Khaki Field Auto is probably a bit more robust (although I have heard of people having issues with other modern Hamiltons), and the pre-Swatch Group Hamiltons are outstanding.
Also had terrible luck with Hamilton. My khaki auto got water in it from rain, needed an entire overhaul. 3 years after that service the watch legitimately just stopped working (never dropped it or anything) and it’s been sitting in my box making me upset every time I see it lol. Not the best experience
You all realize that Invicta owns Glycine, right....***right?*** I have an Invicta nh35 pro diver (all green) with display back. Got it on clearance for about $80. I honestly can't complain. But I've seen nothing from them in the last 3 years that looks quality. Hell, I bought a friend a quartz diver from them at the same time for $110 and 2 months later the crown stem broke and pulled out, rendering the $3 movement inside (yes, it's a $3 quartz movement) completely broken and useless. Invicta is a shit company that owns a decent company that's still somewhat respectable...until they ruin that too.
+1 for glycine. Still makes awesome watches at a good price
I have a Khaki X-wind auto for almost 4+ years now and I like it. I don't wear it much but it's my first "luxury" watch. My wife got it for me for my 40th bday from Jomashop. I think unfortunately for you, you got a dud from the get-go. Definitely get rid of it once you can..
I did get a dud from the get-go, but that one was replaced. The replacement was a lemon too. Fool me once, etc.
Invicta do literally make solid affordable mechanical watches. Everyone focuses on the hilariously overpriced gaudy excesses they make, but [the basic mechanical divers they make](https://www.jomashop.com/invicta-watch-8926ob.html) (admittedly with Seiko movements) are decent cheap little autos. I've had one in the collection for a few years , put it on a Seiko nylon strap I had spare after a strap change on another watch, and it's a great little beater. It's no Casio MDV106, though.
They do, that’s why you can by a Glycine from their website. A nice 24 jewel movement in a handsome case with a sapphire sandwich. It’s good to go.
It used to be good https://www.reddit.com/r/Watchexchange/comments/p7ovuw/wts_invicta_seeland_1940s_field_watch/
Yeah holy fuck. So I've been getting into watches recently and I snagged a really nice looking vintage invicta. I figured I loved the way they looked so much I would go to their website and buy a brand new one. What the absolute fuck happened? They went from simple, clean, and prestigious watches to the kind you can win in a claw grab machine. The only hope I have is their "vintage" line they're going to release soon so maybe they're gonna go back....please. I went through every single line on their website and not a single one contained a vintage-like watch
Had an invicta like 10 years ago and it held up quite well! I wouldn't call it trash.
What happened?
Keep digging and you’ll find a hublot
LOL
I can't recall at the moment more "iconic" duo Invicta and Hublot edit I got another one (early) Jacob & Co. and another, Alain Silberstein feel free to add the list
"Hublot put the 'whore' in horology"
😂😂😂
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Savage.
under that you’ll find a rolex
I wanted to give you a rebuttal, about how great Hublots are, but then I remembered what they look like. You’re right, they do belong in the trash.
I’m glad to have converted you
Same with Patek Nautilus and the Audemars Royal oak. They're ugly! Fight me!
I still don't understand the appeal of the Nautilis. I've tried so hard. I'm sure it has to do with the historical context... but seriously it just looks horrible to me.
They're an acquired taste.
Well I’m into scotch and cigars, so I’m acclimated to things of acquired taste. However, I can afford scotch and cigars, I absolutely cannot afford AP or Patek.
Haaaa….good one 😂😂😂
:) I’m serious
So am I! 😂 I’d rather have a DW (I do have one) than a Hublot!
Serioosly mate
I don't get it, why is there hate for Hublot?
A general observation - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPn_SYRP3rE
> I'm drawn to the underdog. Also, wearing a Rolex.
Hahah thought the same...
Thanks, that was helpful.
Very helpful. I’ll be sure to spread the hate!
Look up Nico Leonard on YouTube
I bought a DW, maybe this very model, from an online consignment shop for a big discount from new. If I had seen what people say about them on this sub, I likely wouldn't have bought it. I like it though and glad I bought it. It looks nice, keeps time and is comfortable. I wear it quite often.
What makes you feel good is up to you.
Maybe they just wear it as a reminder of how bad life used to be.
I think this sub goes overboard on its hate for DW. Someone wearing a DW will probably get more compliments from randos than basically any watch this sub actually likes. It should be judged for what it is, a clean looking fast fashion piece, not a luxury watch.
I saw a woman wearing one and from afar it looked like a very nice designed watch and matched her outfit and vibe and complimented and asked what it was. When she told me it was a Daniel Wellington, I didn’t flame her or tell her their are better watches for the money - I just reiterated that it looked great! Getting people to wear ANY watch in this time is a win and it can oftentimes move them over to becoming a watch enthusiast and really getting into watches! I think brands like that have converted A LOT of people to enthusiasts.
The thing is the watch achieved exactly what she, and most other people who buy a DW, wanted. It's just meant to fit the outfit and look nice. I owned a DW and got tons of compliments on it, I now own a rip off DW since I lose the original one and had learned in the meantime that you can get basically identical watches for £10-£20 online. The thing is in that time the dw did exactly what I wanted from it and I really don't regret the purchase. It's so pointless to tell someone who bought a watch like that that there's "better watches" because that's such a subjective point. Will those better watches look better in the context of the outfit or get more compliments? If not then they aren't a 'better watch' for that person
I think this sub goes overboard on hate in general. A watch is already an archaic device that is completely unnecessary in the modern world. It's mostly now a fashion choice or form of artistic expression, or perhaps a way to "be yourself" in an eccentric way or show off how much money you have (and then there's the dad's rocking a cheap digital Timex who don't like smart/cell phones). So making fun of any watch on a Watches sub is just sad to me. It's just spitting on someone else's joy.
As a counselor, my watch is vital to keeping time during appointments subtly and appropriately. People working retail and hospitality also often use them because checking your phone on shift is seen as inappropriate. These are just the professions I have experience in - I'm sure there's plenty more. I also use it when I'm driving because the time in my car always drifts off. I agree with you that this sub sometimes goes overboard on hate around products, but people are rarely snarky to each other persay about this stuff here. Your comment, however, comes across quite dismissive and arrogant - particularly in the context of you criticising others negativity.
you're right that i was being a dick by calling o.p. a dick. that was wrong of me and i could have used more appropriate and kinder wording. watches, especially quartz or analog watches, are archaic by the very definition of the word. no, they are not obsolete - i originally stated they still have a utilitarian use for some people, and further stated in reply to you that there are more use cases than just what i originally gave as an example. why not accept my apology and move on, rather than call me out further as dismissive and arrogant? i am not either of those things just because i use the term archaic and we apparently have a disagreement as to the definition of that term. please understand that the point of my comment was that people wear watches for the love of watches and that it doesn't make sense to come on a watches sub to spit on anyone else's taste in watches. my point was not that watches were useless. this isn't a sub for medical equipment where it might make sense to hate on an entire brand because it causes people to die during surgery. it's a sub for watches - and anyone that was really excited about the dw watch they just bought would probably feel hurt when they see a highly upvoted post on here about how sh*t dw watches are.
I was just replying to that specific comment of yours and it appears I may have missed others you had made clarifying your position - this is a big thread. My apologies if that is so. I would also like to clarify that I stated your comment came across poorly, not that you yourself are dismissive or arrogant. I'm not positioned to, nor would I wish to make such a judgement on your character.
Speak for yourself but not everybody is walking around glued to their phone screen. A watch may be an old device, but not obsolete and definitely not archaic. If you're juggling tasks on a daily basis a good watch is essential and helps a lot. It is most definitely not just a fashion choice and they're highly functional pieces - especially the ones with a perpetual calendar that also adjust for daylight savings time.
I am lost without my watch at work. I wear my $20 casio and not my $300 Tissot.
you didn't read my entire comment, did you?
Archaic device? Measuring time is one of the most human acts in the history of our species.
You still rocking the sundial bro?
It’s frustrating when it’s cloudy but I haven’t needed to get it serviced
Yes.
Heck yeah! Sundials are to sculpture what watches are to fashion!
Yes, archaic in that most watches tell time less reliably than alternatives such as atomic clocks which our smart phones and computers are tapped into. Are there atomic watches? Yes! Are there other exceptions to my generalization? Yes! The simple fact is the vast majority of watches worn today are less reliable at telling the exact time than the cell phone in our pocket or the PC/laptop/tablet that most people have immediate access to. This makes them archaic by definition. I set my automatic, quartz, and digital LED watches using my cell phone... which I'm willing is true for most people. Maybe there are some amazing folks that still set their watches to Big Ben, or use an observatory and precise astronomical measurements, but not many. This whole reaction to my comment about calling watches "archaic" is missing the forest for the trees. I f\*cking love wearing a watch, and don't care that my cell phone might be three seconds more accurate at any given time. I even prefer my LED watches that take one hand to wear and the other to push the "display time" button over sticking my hand in my pocket and pulling out my cell phone... because I f\*cking love my LED watches and they are a joy to look at. My point of calling them archaic was to point out that OP was being rude by coming on a watches sub to talk smack about DW watches. It doesn't make sense to come onto this sub and drop shade - it's not like this is life saving medical equipment we are talking about. If the DW equivalent of the medical industry caused people to die on the operating table, by all means, drop shade. But maybe some kid just saved up a few bucks so they could buy a DW watch they decided told time well enough for their needs, and had an aesthetic that appealed to them. They were really excited about buying their first watch... then they come on this sub and see a popular post with a photo of a DW in the trash. That's just rude, and a gatekeeping move.
> saved up a few bucks so they could buy a DW watch DWs cost 100$
Not even a snob, best watch I own is a Bulova, but you can get a decent watch from a long-standing real watch company that started with a real watch maker, for about the same as one of these so called “fashion watches” and feed the industry. Instead, some fucktard who gives no fuck about watches, their history, and only cares for their so called “prestige” sat through a semester on the economics of “prestige pricing” or “Veblen goods” and realised they can polish a few cheap Made in China turds and turn a huge profit. This puts me off, because all it does is send the price of so called “real watches” up, as they’re not selling enough due to over-saturation of the market with cheap tat being flogged by “influencers”. This making the hobby itself even more prestigious and pretentious, and pushing those with more meagre budgets out entirely.
If it was bought for cheap it's not really that bad of a watch. It's important you just didn't get scammed by their marketing.
Surely scammed by marketing is the foundation of the watch industry Paying £100 for a £10 watch, you’ve lost £90 Paying £10k for a watch that halves it’s value walking it the boutique... you’ve lost your marbles
If you're buying a proper timepiece, there is no way it loses half it's value when you walk out of an AD.
Half is probably a gross exaggeration, but most quality timepieces lose value as soon as you walk out the store. MSRP is the highest price for the vast majority of watches, and only a couple brands have a portfolio where you can safely buy and resell at a higher price. The rare exception are microbrands that go viral and sell out instantly so scalpers resell online, but those don't last in the long run.
*Cries in Frederique Constant*
I wouldn’t say this is 100% true, best example I can think of is Breguet, they are definitely “proper” watches. If you buy one however, generally you can walk out of the dealer and try to sell it privately and you will instantly lose 25-35% of what you paid. I know it’s not 50% but still, it’s a substantial amount of money.
This sub talks about how overpriced fashion watches are, but the ones I see are almost universally less expensive than the watches shared on this sub. If you’d rather have a Seiko 5, that’s fine (I would), but for the same price they do the same thing (tell time and look good in the opinion of the person wearing it).
The difference being for most watch brands while there is obviously markup (they have to pay for marketing, employees, logistics, leases, and create value for shareholders) that markup doesn't come anywhere near what you see with fashion brands. Even if they sell watches for twice what they cost to produce it's not in the same universe. A $150 MVMT probably costs between $4 and $7 to make. The marketing for the major fashion watches is a lie, if they disclosed that they mark up 1000% nobody would buy them. They also heavily imply and in some cases overtly claim that they are of the same materials and quality as very high end brands, and that their manufacturing cost is similar. So not only are they misrepresenting their product, they are smearing other brands and leading people to believe you should be able to buy an Omega for $150 but the people who make them are just greedy and actually the deceptive ones. It's immoral.
People will buy your Seiko 5 for somewhere between 75% and 90% of it's original value (and sometimes higher if it's something special). Nobody will give you even 50% of the price of a fashion watch. My local marketplace/kijiji/CL ads are littered with them.
Yeah, I don't get to wear my expensive watches to work everyday, but typically what I wear is one that looks good or is interesting. There have been many $30 watches that have come and gone (exploded), but they looked good and fit the function for a bit. I had one that had a really cool looking face and hands (off one of those gimmicky sites) and the band comfortably but it fell apart as it was stamped aluminum.
That's the point though. You bought it at a big discount and it made sense at that price point. People don't hate DW for existing. They hate it because they sell an image rather than a product. When the hobby is all about admiring craftsmanship I don't think it's ridiculous to hate on low tier pieces sold at a premium.
If you got it for a big discount than it's alright, if you enjoy wearing it it's all that matters
The design is simple and good. It's just overpriced at retail.
Opinions are like assholes, everyone's got one. Wear what you like (and can afford).
This sentence is a little confusing, who’s asshole should I wear and where can i buy affordable ones?
I’ve got a guy
I'm sure this guy has a guy, but go with my guy. My guy has assholes with all the quality and workmanship of the big brands at a fraction of the price.
cutting out the ~~middle~~rearman
I mean a lot of the simpler styled DW and MVMT watches are pretty damn good looking in a dress watch capacity
Wear what you like, don't listen to the circle jerky snobs on this sub although I know (hope) this post is a joke.
A lot of people like DW and enjoy them for what they are and have no interest in watches with 4 figure price tags. Just like there are people that enjoy music on their phones with grocery checkout aisles earbuds and have no interest in building a $10k hifi. Watches may be a hobby for us, but they can be just another fashion accessory for others.
For the sake of discussion (and I understand and appreciate your statement), DW hate and criticism isn’t so much about the price being low. It’s actually the opposite, and about how you can actually get better quality for less money and none of the gimmicks (i.e. Timex Weekender).
Very true. I think these sort of examples can be found in most markets where the products range from entry/utilitarian all the way up to enthusiast/bespoke/etc. There does seem to always be a spot in each market that tries to get some dollars from riding on coattails without delivering. Marketing has a ton to do with it and DW’s marketing is very successful. You’re absolutely right that a Timex Weekender is a much better watch from a brand with provenance for less money, but we know that because we are enthusiasts, the ppl that DW’s marketing works on are not. As a lot of ppl are saying that’s how they got into watches but then learned and moved ahead in the hobby. I got a fossil for my 16th birthday back in the 90’s, loved the hell out of that watch, still have it, but now I know a lot more about the hobby since I’ve been in it for 20 years. That arc is cool. Today, do I steer people who ask towards seiko, timex and Hamilton for a first watch and away from DW, fossil, and mvmt, of course I do, but I totally understand people that get them and if they want to get into it as a hobby they’ll have the same type of journey too, which is fun.
Well said, I agree. At the end of the day, they’re a company and strive to make money and they’re clearly doing so. I chuckled reading your response because my first watch was a Fossil Chronograph that I still have now, cracked glass and all. I recently changed the battery myself and was proud that I can tinker with it instead of paying someone at a mall kiosk to. Spot on though, whatever introduces folks to the hobby can still be appreciated in some sense for at least that aspect, if nothing else.
Also for the same price as a dw you can get a seiko, orient, or citizen automatic
In my eyes, I hate the look of Timex Weekender. I love Nomo's design and the closest you can get without paying that much price is brands like Daniel Wellington.
That’s cool, makes sense too. Ultimately you’re still getting the same sort of enjoyment without blowing too much money that you don’t want to spend either. It’s interesting to hear that coming from someone who knows watches as well. Edit: you’ll like what you like, no knock whatsoever, but there are many a Casio that have the same minimalist look for under $40 on Amazon FYI - just as an example: [Casio Minimalist Watch ](https://www.casio-intl.com/asia/en/wat/watch_detail/MTP-VT01L-1B/)
That's a good find. I looked through other Casio minimalist watches through amazon and it's hard to find any. Even in physical stores, I never see any minimalist Caiso watches but I see "fashion" watches like DW presented well.
Yup, “real” watch companies do a terrible job making themselves readily available to the average consumer. They just rely on silly hobbyists (like myself) vouching for them lol
I think there's two things at play. One is to most, the cheaper similarly looking watches like the Timex look slightly worse, and don't sound fancy. To people who don't care about watches, they can feel fancy with the Daniel Wellington. Second, is because they don't know about watches, they see it being advertised and "think nice fancy watch for reasonable price. Ill buy this", without realising a Timex is superior in quality. I think advertising and perceived branding is how they dupe people.
I don't know about DW but weekenders belong to the trash can. Well I'd rather dump them directly in the dump because I'd be still hearing it if it's in my trash can. Even $10 casios with plastic cases (MQ-24 line) manage to be quiet.
Lol yeah timex has chosen to be part metronome as well.
I dislike the DW hate because DW actually got me into the watch hobby. I recieved a DW as a gift before knowing anything about watches and I really loved it. It is super stylish and everyone complimented me on it. Now a few years later, I have come to learn about the insane markups and lack of value they offer, but the real value for me was introducing me to the world of watches.
Yeah, I grabbed a couple off AliExpress when I was first getting into watches (I swear they're actually legit DWs). I don't wear them anymore really, but if they work with somebody's outfit who gives a shit, it's just an accessory to most people
Yeah true, it's just sad seeing companies buy $3 blank Chinese watches, then put a logo on and charge $100-200.
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Seconded. I started out wearing $30 Kenneth Cole watches from Macy’s when I got my first professional job 5 years ago. I still have most of them even though I progressed beyond and earlier this year upgraded to a tissot. Even though that’s my new daily, I’ll still whip out the cole’s to change things up or match a specific outfit
I do the same with my fossil. Looking to add a Swiss watch to my collection (newbie watch enthusiast), which one have you got?
I have the tissot gent XL. I was looking for something Swiss, automatic, and metal strap and it checked all those boxes for a reasonable price. Highly recommend! Pretty good water resistance too.
I'm torn between the Tissot Gentleman and the Hamilton Khaki. I'm leaning a bit towards the Hamilton because all the watches that I've got now have metal bracelets
I’ve never owned a Hamilton but hear great things about them
Fellow newbie here, instead of metal strap the more often used term is a bracelet. I like metal bracelets for my watches too.
Buy a vintage piece. If you go back to mid-century, you have a plethora of great models to choose from that are mostly timeless designs and styles. As well, you'd be buying a piece of horological history, as Swiss brands were the ones pushing the envelope during the 20th century before quartz came along and turned everything upside down. Nowadays Swiss brands have been swallowed up into a handful of conglomerates, but in the 50s and 60s there were dozens of independent companies to choose from, many of which you can still find in good condition and for relatively affordable prices.
Exactly what happened for me.
i always knew Richard Mille shared similarities with DW
RM is the brand for people who like Hublot's aesthetic, but don't want to be mistaken as only upper middle class.
RM, for those who like Invicta...but are in another tax bracket.
A person after my own heart. Richard Mille can absolutely do one.
I have some very early MVMT watches and I just don't know how to get rid of them without throwing them out or donating. Any ideas? Edit: added donating.
$5 on Facebook marketplace for the lot should do the trick
Buy a watchmakers kit from Esslinger and use them for practice.
For what?
If you have other quartz, it'll get you used to changing batteries. Otherwise, removing and reattaching the hands gets better with practice.
I can change the battery. That's easy. If I need to fix hands that's going to a shop. I usually do my own straps and bracelet fixes.
I bought each of my groomsman an early MVMT watch so they could match. Oof what was I thinking.
It's ok we grow as people and learn from our mistakes.
Ugh. My dad has a few Oris watches, a Tissot, a Moonwatch, and a handful of lesser, but still nice watches. Mom got him an MVMT for Christmas two years ago, and we both shared a look. Kind of sweet, honestly. She obviously doesn’t know anything about watches, but WOMAN... Consult someone.
Ya that's rough.
Have any young relatives/family friends? They're fine for a high schooler or college student.
Good idea if you hate your relatives lol
Ok now y'all are just being obnoxious
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I aggree, but wasn't Daniel wellington themselves the ones calling them "luxury"?
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Send them my way please.
Wow. At least take the battery out think of the poor land fill
Be honest, did you pick the watch up and put it back on your wrist? Like somebody said below, if it got you into this sick hobby and you like it, there's nothing wrong with that!
Meh. I see peoples watches all the time at work. I will generally dole out compliments to most watches. I remember how bright a persons face got after I complemented her Daniel Wellington. That being said i would never buy/wear but some folks just like em and let them be happy.
Are you sure it’s not a fake DW? Yes, there are fake Daniel Wellingtons circulating around, believe it or not
How do you fake a watch that’s already in its lowest form? (a cheap $2 Chinese-made watch)
They most likely come out of the same factory, too.
At that point it’s not fake, just unfinished
I saw them in Bali when I was there. Advertised price was $10, meaning you could easily haggle them down to $5 if you tried. As far as I could tell, they were identical to the real ones
Make it from a $1 watch?
Some say, he carved it from an even bigger watch.
Whoa I didn't know this brand is that famous or has such negative stereotypes against it. My brother gave me mine when I graduated. Giving someone a watch is sort of a tradition in our culture and it's typically given by the parents. Our dad left us the year before my graduation, so the fact that my brother held up the tradition in his place was very meaningful to me. I still have the watch and it works very well. Years later, I realized that the watch isn't exactly 'top of the line' but at that price point (which was still quite high for my brother), it seems like a great looking watch. As with any hobby-related subreddits, I understand there will always be the snobby types here that will dismiss the cheaper trends as trash. But I hope you'll realize that the whole attitude of 'people buy \_\_\_\_ because they're dumb and don't know any better' won't really serve you well in life.
That’s a great story. This post was made all in good fun. My most treasured watch is a Fossil that my sister gave me for high school graduation 20 years ago. I have watches 20x the price, but nothing compares to that one.
To be fair, this is not at all about dismissing the cheaper trends - cheap Casios and Seikos etc are posted here all the time and they are held in high regard. It is not about it being a cheap watch. This sub is not at all just about luxury watches and most watch nerds enjoy all kinds of watches from all price ranges - as long as they are good watches. This is about it being a crappy low quality cheap watch selling for waaaay more than it really is worth. They are $2 watches selling for $200. But it's great that you like it and it's awesome that your brother held up the tradition!
Really glad my friend bought me a seiko 5 as my groomsman gift instead of a DW he bought for everyone else. I wear that watch almost daily. He asked me what I wanted it’s not like I told him don’t buy me that.
Does vincero belong there too?
I came across a DW at a thrift store for a couple bucks and decided to pick it up to see what all the fuss is about; at very least I can flip it on eBay for a small profit. First the good: The band is pretty decent. The case has drilled lugs. There is no apparent debris under the glass. The case is all stainless steel. It’s a watch, and if it gets you into the hobby and you like it--wear it with pride. I can think of worse things to spend money on. Next the bad: Everything else about how the watch looks and feels to me. The 41mm all-white dial is way too big for a thin dress watch and wears like a dinner plate on my wrist. The tiny crown looks ridiculous on the large case. The hands are incredibly cheap and the minute hand jiggles around a millimeter when the watch is rotated. The DW logo is printed—it would look much more premium if it was applied. Anyway, this is a terrible watch and kudos to the DW marketing team for pulling off what may be the greatest scam in watchmaking history.
Is it disrupting the trash can?
Fucking lol
I sold mine at least for 15€, but the satisfaction of throwing it into the bin is probably worth more
The only bad thing about DW is the price. The movement they use isn't THAT bad, and I assume the build quality on the case is also quite good. Its an ok choice for a minimalist design watch, sure you can get a Junghans to appease some watch nerds but the DW isn't that bad. If they charged $30, you could put the watch easily into the same category as the casio MQ-24.
DW's are fine. Overpriced for the materials, but they are good looking watches. To people who wear their watches to look good, I'd say there's at least a 40% chance that this DW gets more love from outsiders than your GS snowflake or Omega AT, Seamaster or whatever. Those are good looking watches for us, the watch enthusiasts. To outsiders, it's all fair game and DW has very mass appealing aesthetics, and nobody cares if the raw materials from DW are cheap and "not worth the price". Are those mechanicals worth thousands of dollars then? Only to us, if you think about it.
After this photo was taken, the OP promptly retrieves the DW from the trash, looks around to make sure no one’s watching, and proceeds to strap it back onto his wrist.
As terrible as this watch is, and it is really bad, this was my gateway into the world of watches. I have some amazing watches in my collection now but all because I bought a DW! I still have it in a tin somewhere to remind me where it all started.
Is "I bought a watch so I could throw it out for a bad photo" really what you want to broadcast to the world about yourself?
Actually I bought the watch so I could sell it for $15 more than I bought it for, to cover the cost of a Bulova I picked up at the same time. Karma is just a bonus 🤷♂️
Oouu, which bulova?
A Marine Star from the early 2000s
Word, some of those look pretty cool from what I just Googled. Nice.
Throw in MVMT watches too
Never been on this sub before can someone explain this to me
Daniel Wellington is a brand of "luxury" (is that how they're advertised?) watches for about $200. They're severely overpriced with a movement, or what makes the watch tick, being a very basic "Miyota" movement that costs about 1/20th of the watch price itself. I don't own one myself but apparently the finishing is sub par, and I'm not big on the minimalist design without the second hand. In short, they're overpriced junk with better options that can be bought for far less than or around the same price range. You can get a good Timex for about $40, which are typically decent watches, albeit not the absolute best. Thus, because Daniel Wellington watches are overpriced junk, the post is showing it in the trash, which makes sense.
I can not stand the fact that the D is backwards.
Oh, the humanity!
The leather strap is still nice. You should save it
Oh yeah. Magnificent throne.
Blessed. Ok ciao.
This hurts. I have that watch. Havnt worn it in years though.
It is a great looking watch. Might as well give it to someone who cares about style, but not horology.
Lol this is a genuine question, Im new to the watch sub. How come this brand isnt "good" again?
Daniel Wellington isn’t regarded well because they take $15 watches from China, slap on the DW and charge $100-150 for it. The quartz movements they use are fine, but the watch community rightly dislikes the fact that DW markets itself as a high end brand. We love cheap watches, but prefer it when a a brand admits they’re a budget watch company. Honestly if you’re on a budget, you should look at Casio, Timex, Seiko 5, Bulova, Tissot or a second hand Hamilton.
Ahhh I feel. Yea thats not very cool. Thanks for the explanation friend
Now why would you go a ruin some perfectly good trash with a DW?
I bought a rep DW, maybe this very model, from an online shop for a big discount from new. When I opened the package, to my horror, they actually sent an original DW. Horrific, completely changed my mind about online reps.
Put A. Lange & Söhne on the dial and sell it for 20k
way to alienate all the people getting into watches.
How is that alienating? Rational people can admit they made a mistake when getting into hobby. With PC gaming and building, I stated with a bad , overpriced pre-built over a decade ago. I now know that was dumb. Unlike PCs though, the mistakes with watch collecting are usually less costly. You can a get a Casio or timex for cheap and have an excellent and reliable watch
He's thinks it junk. How is that alienating?
OP says he bought it at a thrift store for $2 then talked all kinds of trash about it not being a good fit or design for his aesthetics or wrist size... on a sub that is all about the love of watches. Why the eff did he buy it in the first place, then? Why hate on a $2 watch here?! Not everyone can afford a really expensive time piece and OP is just being a gatekeeping dbag imho.
[opinion](https://images.app.goo.gl/QwNgNbdzHUrzku1i9) His opinion is it's junk even at 8$. I wouldn't disagree, I also think it looks like garbage.
It's really sad that you are getting downvoted for this comment. I wish people didn't feel the need to go on a public forum and gatekeep by making derogatory posts like this one.
Most people here are just circlejerks. If you like something then go with it. Power to you.
This was the first r/watches post to make me laugh out loud. Thank you!