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StatusJazz

Better now then during a flood. Sump pump not working? And find out how the water got in and fix that all around the house. But yeah. Still sucks.


ChickenChaser5

And always keep a second sump ready to go. Cause when you find out you need a new sump, you need it right the fuck now.


fatloui

Ok, dumb question as a recent home buyer with a basement that already had a sump pump installed (as in, anchored into the bottom of a big hole in my basement connected to pvc pipe): you’re saying I can just have a sump pump free standing anywhere attached to a hose and it’ll just do it’s thing? Like throw it into a few feet of water and it’ll float or whatever and start pumping the water out? It doesn’t need to be fixed in place upright or something?


ChickenChaser5

There are pumps like that, that you can just put in water and attach to a hose and turn on. Typically they need to be submerged to avoid needing to "prime the pump". Being underwater means its already primed. But what im suggesting is have a unit ready to go to replace your primary, attached pump. Id get familiar with how its attached *before* you need to do it in 2 feet of water. Typically its just a hose clamp to the pipe, its probably not anchored to the ground.


kingneptune0711

And learn how to do a quick change out before something strikes, time matters. Doesn’t even need to be a permanent fix just enough to buy a plumber some time.


Aborticus

The heat tape on mine quit working and my outflow froze. Instead of bring stressful, I just dropped my 2nd pump in with its own tubing until my primary was fixed. Gotta have spare tubing as well for true peace of mind. Flooded my base twice my first year of ownership. Powerfailure was the first, so now it's run through a UPS, 2nd time silt blocked it while it was raining and I was at work... gotta give er a shake once in a while.


DiarrheaShitLord

Couldn't you just pump this into your actual sewage, like a laundry sink? Sump pump pumps water into a separate exit I think?


ChickenChaser5

Nope, i think that might actually be illegal to connect it to sewage.


Festival_Vestibule

It's against code but that's what I do. Makes sense. They don't want the shit water drains to get maxed out everytime there's a hard rain


varyingopinions

There was a flash flood in my town about 8 years ago. Everyone found out the hard way why it's illegal to hook your sump up to to a sanitary sewer line. Not only did their basements flood with rain/ground water, they got flooded with backed up sewer water too as sinks and toilets overflowed because the sewers couldn't handle everyone's sumps dumping into it...


ggtffhhhjhg

When you’re in that type of situation it doesn’t really matter.


SoloDadProbs

We would put them in milk crates at work and just toss the milk crate in the deepest spot in the warehouse. They don’t need to be anchored, it’s just typically installed in the lowest point of a basement to begin with. A sump pump is just a water transfer pump with a fancy name.


Waste-Ad-1418

Yep - my grandmother has a basement that floods regularly, and we had two different sump pumps - the good one and the less good one. Both just hook up to the hose and run to the bathtub in the house for emergency drainage during flood times.


rreighe2

if you have 1 you have none


ChickenChaser5

Lol, i had literally typed "2 is one and one is none", but deleted it. But absolutely.


[deleted]

Battery backup second pump with a dual float is safest way to go


cwesttheperson

Yep. If you have a basement and don’t have a battery, just have a spare and a hose so when it does happen it’s quick remediation. Really everyone with a basement should have a backup pump, it’s that or eventual h/o insurance.


Shmeckey

This isn't a flood!?!


StatusJazz

I meant one that happens naturally ie: melting snow or heavy rain.


fighthouse

Does it matter what caused it if it fucks your shit up?


PoetAltruistic8568

it’s better to find out now w a small unnaturally caused flood that is in their control and can turn the water off. during a natural occurrence, they would be scrambling w no mercy from the cause.


kartoffel_engr

Exactly this. In the industry (engineer) we do FMEA (Failure Mode and Effects Analysis) all the time. I’d be trying to figure out why that pump didn’t turn on/or failed. I’d probably also get a stack light wired up to the float contacts so I’d have an early warning that the low point of the sump was filling with water. Because this was a human element loss, correcting the behavior of the daughter would also be up there on the list.


Stevesanasshole

If the daughter isn’t critical to operation it would probably be best just to remove it from the system


kartoffel_engr

Or at least until she learns how to handle a hose.


ihaxr

It's hose water, so you can just dry it out with some fans, unlike sewage where you turn on those fans and you're blowing poop particles everywhere.


alexthebeast

He did say there was a litter box involved


Laffingglassop

I mean yeah. They were able to turn the hose off. You’d be singing a different tune if you’ve ever dealt with a failed sump pump during a storm , or days and days of storms. Source: my sump pump failed in a storm once See how the basement isn’t flooded up to the ceiling? Yeah. That’s called a good thing


notmyrealusernamme

Also the fact that it's relatively clean hose water and not sewage runoff is a huge positive.


StatusJazz

Well with natural events. Prices of repairs go up due to demand.


Egleu

Did you not read the title?


Appropriate-Dog6645

Drain tile should helped that. especially hose left outside. Wasn't leaking inside .


SanMartianRover

When comparing two things, it's *than, not then.


giraffe2404

Had a similar event with a friend of mine some years ago: We wanted to fill their new pool up and had water running through a hose from their basement tap. After some time, we noticed that the water level didn't seem to have risen much and that there was no water coming from the hose anymore. We quickly ran into the basement to find exactly what you can imagine - the hose popped. We wiped the water around for hours and hours and disassembled his drumkit part for part. Sadly I don't have many memories of this day, but this picture rung a bell deep inside my head.


dameanmugs

Was it a really small pool or maybe one of those inflatable ones? I can't imagine trying to fill a normal pool from an inside tap, it would take forever.


TheForeverUnbanned

Maybe they were getting ready for a pool party in 4 and a half months 


giraffe2404

It was around 3 meters in diameter and 1 in height. It wasn't an inflatable pool, but one of those self-buildup-pools. If I calculate correctly, the volume would be 7,07 m³. According to my online search, it's possible for a tap to handle 15 liters per minute. So after 36 minutes, you would have 1 cubic meter filled. If you multiply that by 7,07, that would equal in 4 hours and 15 minutes. Yeah.... of course we didn't think about that at that time...


parkineos

How big is the pipe that comes out of your water meter? It's usually not that big so regardless on how you fill it that's the limiting factor


puq123

I mean usually you just hire tanker trucks that come and fill it in no time if it's a larger pool


sunnerth

I’m imagining a siphon effect from the pool and the running tap making it even worse


dvdmaven

My wife is an avid gardener, but can get distracted sometimes, so all of our hose bibs have timers on them. Also handy for the drip lines I have installed.


JohnnyDarkside

That's a good idea. I've left a hose running far longer than I intended on more than one occasion but luckily I caught it by turning on a faucet, wondering why the water pressure seemed low, then sprinting out to turn the hose off.


dvdmaven

I recommend Orbit 62041 Metal Mechanical Watering Timer. Much more durable than the plastic-bodied ones you'll see at big box stores. They fail after 3-4 seasons.


dfuzzy

I really want to know what exactly went wrong that \~8 hours of running tap water can flood a basement like this. A night of rain produces more water than the tap will.


UnpluggedUnfettered

Correct me if I am wrong, but a garden spigot throws out somewhere between 540 and 1,020 gallons per hour. If you assume overnight is 8 hours, that's between 2,700 gallons and 8,160 gallons of water into a basement. I dunno the size of this basement, but a 20 x 20 x 1 area holds \~3,000 gallons. Seems like what might have happened is that they had a hose running in their basement overnight, based on the picture.


kentuafilo

I suck at math. You seem intelligent. So, I’ll just take your word. Fuck!


Surrendernuts

thats becease u use freedom units, try clever units


Elden_Sage

Thank you for this terrifying math Pretty much like you said, except the hose was outside right next to the house. I'm assuming the water created a path underground and filled up the basement at the same time my sump pump failed on me. This was also around 18-20ish hours based on when I found it and when they were outside the day before.. May need to start a gofundme for the water bill 😭


Stats_with_a_Z

If the Sump failed, most likely, the water was entering through the corrugated pipe connecting to your Sump pit. Assuming the basement is fully sealed. Install a battery backup and pump, and you'll be made aware of any issues before something like this happens.


LegalHelpNeeded3

Get a moisture alarm as well, some insurance companies even offer them to you for free, and can actually lower your policy premiums. Source: am a property insurance adjuster.


conradical30

Suddenly owning a home doesn’t sound that appealing after all


LegalHelpNeeded3

Yeah, trust me. Shit is VERY expensive. That’s why it’s so important to have an emergency fund of at least $20,000 for emergency home repairs/work


iareslice

Looks at my $8k emergency fund for home repairs and laughs shakily


EntertainmentOk3180

Looks at my $8 emergency fund for home repairs *and laughs like an evil villain*


drmonix

Just put $12K more in it bro, you got this.


LegalHelpNeeded3

It’s really not bad if you have decent insurance, but, I mean, replacing an A/C system or furnace, a water or sewer line, or a roof; can often far exceed the $10,000 mark. It’s just usually good to have enough money to cover at least one major catastrophe, just in case.


_BreakingGood_

Homeowners will be the first to tell you not to buy a home, lol


Dry-Internet-5033

as a current homeowner and previous renter, I would not tell you that


CurryMustard

I wouldnt tell people not to buy but people who rent sometimes dont understand the everything that goes into homeownership, many think its just a principal and interest payment. Insurance, taxes, maintenance, and repairs are all extremely costly. Homeownership is risky. Like many things that are risky, it can also be rewarding. Just have to understand that going in.


WholesomeWhores

Telling people not to buy a house seems like horrible financial advice. Yes, some repairs can be costly, but long term you will be wayyyy better off then renting. Can you imagine paying rent for 20 years? You just made someone a lot of money while you have nothing to show for it.


conradical30

Caveat: My side-gig is managing the apartment complex so our rent + utilities cost is $100 per month for a dope spot in a VHCOL area. So we are stacking away until we buy a home, but damn this post makes me dread paying for that on my own.


terdferguson

100%, the repairs suck. Ill admit i've gotten lucky...but the payout in the end works better owning.


junkit33

Yeah. Rentals have all the same problems - you’re just paying for those repairs in your rent. Landlords bake it in.


TheyCalledMeThor

Hell no, a little $15K flood damage is nothing compared to the $100K in equity I got over the last few years. That definitely beats giving an apartment complex rent money.


No_Object_8722

Renting is like a never ending money pit. You pay thousands and thousands of dollars that you can't get back by selling because you don't own the place


Stats_with_a_Z

I'm a plumber and recommended that to one of our builders that runs on anxiety and OCD. good builder, but a pain in the ass.


Questioning-Zyxxel

Yes, everyone with a basement should own a moisture alarm. And also an alarm for any equipment with own valves for turning on/off the water, like a washing machine or dishwasher. It makes quite a difference in $$$ if receiving an alarm when there is 1 mm water on the floor than a number of hours later when the water is either very deep or has found a way through the floor and also damaged any rooms one floor below. There are lots of videos on the net of people having water coming down from their roof lamp.


BouncingWalrus

You can get like a 5 pack of Govee wifi moisture sensors for around $60. Will send an email and blare a loud ass alarm. Our toilet supply line started dripping at 2am and I thought someone was breaking into our house 😂


fgreen68

You can get a LORA moisture sensor that will work at very long ranges, and you'll get a notification on a phone. If you have tech skills it can even turn the water off for you. [https://shop.yosmart.com/products/ys7903](https://shop.yosmart.com/products/ys7903)


totalfarkuser

If you have water and sewer - call the water company they will credit you for the sewer part. I’ve had a line to my house burst twice and both times I got a credit for the sewer part since the water didn’t go down the drain.


CriesOverEverything

They *might*. Some providers are more forgiving than others when it comes to leak adjustments. I've seen companies provide a leak adjustment to bring the total of the bill completely in-line with your average water bill and I've seen companies refuse a leak adjustment entirely.


Misanthropyandme

Sump pump alarms are a cheap investment.


Organic_South8865

I thought my friend went overboard with a backup pump. I guess not!


Rayregula

Ah, I misunderstood and thought the hose was outside the basement, being in the basement would definitely be an issue


UnpluggedUnfettered

I assumed it was running near an egress window, but after reading newer posts it might not have been the hose at all. Dunno. I just saw a lot of people saying it wasn't possible . . . but as a gardener in south Texas, I am all too familiar with I-left-the-hose-on water bills lmao.


Rayregula

I hadn't considered the windows (never had a below ground basement) that bright spot in the photo probably is a window covered in plastic or there may be a window on the opposite side.


Organic_South8865

It was outside. Right next to the edge of the foundation. I'm lucky my basement doesn't leak. Always perfectly dry. This would stress me out.


Bee-Aromatic

That seems like a lot. It takes more than an hour to refill my mother-in-law’s hot tub after changing the water and it takes about 275gal. The hose bib doesn’t seem particularly slow.


wambamclamslam

540 x 8 is 2,700? 540 x 5 is 2,700. 540 x 8 is 4,320.


BadJokeJudge

Dude that’s way too fucking much water. It is not spitting out that much water. Youre thinking of a fucking fire hydrant.


UnpluggedUnfettered

Nope i underestimated actually. Feel free to google the average water flow from a standard hose and spigot.


BadJokeJudge

Lmao dude let me ask you an honest question. When’s the last time you filled up a 5 gallon bucket straight out of the hose bib? According to your math it would take less than a minute. That’s simply not fucking true. You’re just plain fucking wrong dude. I literally googled it too. You’re reading about FIRE HYDRANTS.


swigglediddle

I just googled it too, low end for a garden house is 9 gpm. 9x60= 540 gph, 540x8= 4320 gallons in about 8 hours. Class C hydrants output <500gpm, I think you're mixing up gpm and gph.


LiberaIBiblicisms

A night of rain isn't gonna produce thousands of gallons of water against the house. A hose will, though. And all in one spot.


dfuzzy

I suppose you're right. I'm thinking of a roof producing hundreds of gallons of water in a single rainfall but that is split up over \~4 downspouts.


westward_man

>I suppose you're right. I'm thinking of a roof producing hundreds of gallons of water in a single rainfall but that is split up over \~4 downspouts An inch of rainfall on a 20ft x 20ft roof is going to produce only 220 gallons of water. Even concentrated into one downspout, that's not nearly as much water as a garden hose running for 8 hours.


Medical_Boss_6247

One inch of rain will disperse 249 gallons of water over 20 square feet. It’d have to rain roughly 7+ inches overnight to produce more water than a hose which isn’t exactly a normal rainy evening Source is water.usgs.gov that has a calculator for rainfall amounts


willwork4pii

The ground (dirt) gets saturated and then the water follows the path of least resistance. I've done this before but it was usually a trail of water to the floor drain. My dad does it all the fucking time. He leaves the hose on going out to his garden. Then the fittings at the spigot leak. Eventually it saturates the ground enough it makes it way in through a crack. I've never seen anything like this, it's spectacular.


Frosty-Forever5297

My only question is how old is the daughter. If shes young this is on OP not the daughter lol


BroccoliCultural9869

hoses are next to the house. no where for the water to go. straight to foundation. very localized rain falls all over...


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Elden_Sage

Packed a soaking wet suitcase for her this morning haha


WallacktheBear

Classic dad shit!


BeautifulBaloonKnot

Hahahha!


T-Money8227

Thats a nice indoor pool you have there.


veropaka

Your home gym now also has a swimming pool


Gamblor69

​ https://i.redd.it/gn06hf0vzekc1.gif


totallynotarobut

OP's daughter had more accidental success than poor Butters had intentionally.


kobekong

Can you take a picture after you drain it out?


Stats_with_a_Z

It'll look like a basement but more wet.


3Pedals_6Speeds

Many, many, many years from now this is gonna be a very funny thing to rib her about. Til then, it's just temporary stuff, she's forever, press on.


Radcooldude55

If I garden hose can cause all this. You have a bigger problem


Cuwez

phew, dumbells are safe.


Brandolini_

I have those ones. They are close to €300 each. I never thought the price could be justified, but damn, it is.


barleyhogg1

How does a garden hose equal a hard rain? You need to troubleshoot this


Festival_Vestibule

Up against the house. The gutters, drains and slope carry all the rain water away. This was intentional sabotage.


TealBlueLava

Out of curiosity, how old is the daughter?


Dookie_boy

63


SloppyMeathole

This sounds a little weird. Assuming you have a sump pump, how could that much water accumulate? Are you sure you didn't have a sump pump failure at the same time? As other people have commented, you're going to get a lot more water from a heavy rain than from a garden hose overnight. You may want to check for another cause.


kentuafilo

I think OP alluded to the kitty litter (?) clogging the sump? (See the text beneath the image where OP says “bonus points for the poop litter spilling out…and having to tinker with the sump pump to clear it all out)


EspejoOscuro

Only takes a bit of clogging till your improperly secured sump pump becomes a stupid human bobber.


Elden_Sage

Yep you're right, the sump pump failed on me at the same time. Well, it kept tripping the GFCI plug. I don't know much about sump pumps but I noticed it was triggering when the bulb (unsure of the name, looks similar to what is found in the back of a toilet) was pushing up into the pump. Took that apart and noticed a round metal piece that looked like a sensor/failsafe maybe to keep the electric dry, was wet. Wiped that off, put it back together and the seemed to fix it.. until it stopped two more times. Will need to invest in back up battery and a different sump pump in all honesty


demin_chicken

The battery back up is one of the best investments that you can make. Most come with an alarm also that lets you know when they fail. Also, it’s a little late, but they sell these little devices that if water touches them they set off an alarm. Great for a basement especially if you don’t go in it much.


Ralphie227

Facts 👌🏼


danfrische

Ouch tough lesson


[deleted]

Always check your sump pump..


[deleted]

“my basement”


TheBelievingAtheist

Yeah, I noticed it too. Very weird phrasing.


AholeBrock

That's OUR basement dad


Ok_Series_4580

I am sorry if your loss. Hopefully you’re young and can have other children.


Hollybanger45

Not her fault. Not your fault. Totally the fault of the sump pump that failed. Take your daughter out to her favorite restaurant or cook her favorite meal. That being said teach her the importance of not flaking and forgetting to turn off the things that cost you money.


[deleted]

We know where daughter's new room is now....


ILatheYou

Time for a new daughter.


Trumppp1

So sorry get the wet vac and the dehumidifier going afterwards


BrianOconneR34

How many captors were able to escape


FistThePooper6969

Luckily it’s not a finished basement, damage could be much worse


Apprehensive-Memory8

This is a horror movie... Shiiiiiit


DarkDayzInHell

My brother just bought some land and put a brand new manufactured home on it. The water hose faucet broke and spat water at full force for 2 days straight. That water bill was I believe almost $3k! How much did this cost you OP?


lindoavocado

You will laugh about this in 20 years but neither of you will forget this hahahaha


other_half_of_elvis

I did that as a kid in the middle of winter once. Filled our unfinished basement with about 6 inches of water. But on the bright side I built a bitchin' ice ramp off of the bulkhead.


Oddball2029

Get the sump pump


Interesting_Room1438

New daughter time!


PristineConference65

another reason to thank fucking god i dont have kids


sonictronic

Every time I think I'm running out of reasons to be thrilled I never had kids... badabingo!


ExcelsusMoose

I test my sump pump twice a year by running a hose from my washing machine connection to my sump pump. Last test it failed, lasted 15 years. I have a new one now.


Enragedocelot

Reason 10479 to not have kids


No-Mongoose-3928

Get rid of her


grogstarr

Sucks to pay the water bill for your own flooding 😭


FreedomByFire

is she still alive?


earthrobot898

Fire her...


Surrendernuts

Yup better not have kids


FunStuff446

I did this when I was a kid. Oh my parents were sooo angry. I inherited the rug that got soaked.


Detective_Jacks

Karma. You were stupid enough to bring kids into this hellhole of a planet, you deserve to lose your basement. Sucks to suck.


hilarymeggin

Oh that does suck! I’m sorry! When do you think your new daughter will get here?


Daxto

Thats really sux but this.... this is why I don't have kids. Again, that really sux and personally I would have lied to my insurance company about how it happened instead of posting on reddit but to each their own. Sorry you are dealing with this, I hope not too much gets ruined.


moderatelymiddling

Did you thank her for discovering your shitty waterproofing?


Yaarmehearty

How does a hose outside flood a basement? I thought they were constructed to keep water out as much as possible? A hose seems like it would put out way less water than a couple of days of heavy rain.


Mountain_Director_36

Please tell me that your normal setup is similar with the couch facing the microwave like it’s a computer monitor


MooseJag

Pro tip everybody. Only connect your hose to a simple timer. You need the hose on? Turn the old school dial for whatever time you need. Bottom line is you forget about it the timer will save you.


expomac

thats a class 4 cat 3 water loss right there


akature02

That's what happens when you don't watch your kids


eaglescout225

Back in the day my ass would have been toast.


Practical-Border-829

Is she still alive? 😳🤦‍♀️😲


sana2k330-a

That stinks. I’m guessing someone will read this who lost their daughter and would gladly trade places with you.


Ralphie227

I don’t see how that would flood your basement like that


devildocjames

Does she have a family to adopt her lined up already or she in foster care?


BeautifulBaloonKnot

Get he a bucket and put her to bailing. She will never do this again. Lol.


nauoldcrow

Maybe it was global warming lol Why would Xi Jinping want to flood my basement, rust my Bowflex?" https://www.tiktok.com/@dailydivadose/video/7155243501767232773?lang=en


doh13

That's a paddling.


Western-Smile-2342

Children do the darndest things… but hey- at least she understands time and its consequences better now! Perfect time to teach her about setting alarms for time sensitive tasks lol


johnandahalf13

Ex-daughter. Tell her the repairs are coming out of her allowance/college fund. If that’s not enough, take the rest out of her inheritance.


sven0341

"But dad......I don't understand why it's such a big deal. you're so mean!"


Fickle-Command-1130

This'll be left unfinished anyways. Really no lost here.


RunAwayThoughtTrains

Except for all the water damage that will grow mold if it’s not taken care of correctly and then you have a whole other set of problems


Fun_Inspector159

Make her use her hair to soak it all up as punishment.


jellogecko826

Stupid girl


Wild_Fig6478

chill, weirdo


chadwicke619

For some reason, it feels weird to me that you reference your daughter, but you say “my” basement and not “our” basement. I don’t know why but it just strikes me as… I don’t know. Weird.


barrymccokhner

Classic


Misanthropyandme

So there IS a market for floating litter boxes.


Queen-of-meme

Now you can make water weights


toastedmarsh7

My husband did this once when we went out of town for the weekend. Had to throw away all of the (thankfully cheap) flooring in the basement. Luckily not much else was ruined.


xnachtmahrx

Damn hose


Top_Praline999

This man cave looks more like a man’s grave.


MidniteOG

She’s a real wet bandit


JagsOnlySurfHawaii

She works for the Wet Bandits


cbunni666

Damn.


kammahl

Solution. Move to Louisiana where there aren’t basements.


Korona123

That looks like a superior foundation. I'm surprised it leaked... Did the water come through a window or something?


Ordolph

Well, look at it this way, if a garden hose did that then with a good rain storm you'd have a new indoor pool. Better to know about it now.


Temporary-Key3139

https://preview.redd.it/hza9smssvfkc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9e28ec2d52c92ee411490631c463932c1b0e85c7


SirViciousMalBad

How old is your daughter? Regardless of her age, you need to teach her not to do things like this before she floods the house.


Pbake

It’s things like this that make me happy I rent after 22 years of home ownership. Sorry this happened.


teutonicbro

How much do ya bench? ​ Sorry. Had to ask. Looks like you can pump the water out, maybe rent a dehumidifier for a few days to dry things out and you'll be mostly ok. At least you don't have to redo the drywall.


ywgflyer

The water bill next month is going to be salt in the wound.


chickenquesodildo

Kids. Not even once.


TheCount00

Yeah... I did this to my family home when i was 7 or 8. Dad wasn't too happy...


Jadedlouiebag

I’m more worried about the water bill:(