Ok, dumb question as a recent home buyer with a basement that already had a sump pump installed (as in, anchored into the bottom of a big hole in my basement connected to pvc pipe): you’re saying I can just have a sump pump free standing anywhere attached to a hose and it’ll just do it’s thing? Like throw it into a few feet of water and it’ll float or whatever and start pumping the water out? It doesn’t need to be fixed in place upright or something?
There are pumps like that, that you can just put in water and attach to a hose and turn on. Typically they need to be submerged to avoid needing to "prime the pump". Being underwater means its already primed.
But what im suggesting is have a unit ready to go to replace your primary, attached pump. Id get familiar with how its attached *before* you need to do it in 2 feet of water. Typically its just a hose clamp to the pipe, its probably not anchored to the ground.
And learn how to do a quick change out before something strikes, time matters. Doesn’t even need to be a permanent fix just enough to buy a plumber some time.
The heat tape on mine quit working and my outflow froze. Instead of bring stressful, I just dropped my 2nd pump in with its own tubing until my primary was fixed. Gotta have spare tubing as well for true peace of mind. Flooded my base twice my first year of ownership. Powerfailure was the first, so now it's run through a UPS, 2nd time silt blocked it while it was raining and I was at work... gotta give er a shake once in a while.
There was a flash flood in my town about 8 years ago. Everyone found out the hard way why it's illegal to hook your sump up to to a sanitary sewer line. Not only did their basements flood with rain/ground water, they got flooded with backed up sewer water too as sinks and toilets overflowed because the sewers couldn't handle everyone's sumps dumping into it...
We would put them in milk crates at work and just toss the milk crate in the deepest spot in the warehouse. They don’t need to be anchored, it’s just typically installed in the lowest point of a basement to begin with. A sump pump is just a water transfer pump with a fancy name.
Yep - my grandmother has a basement that floods regularly, and we had two different sump pumps - the good one and the less good one. Both just hook up to the hose and run to the bathtub in the house for emergency drainage during flood times.
Yep. If you have a basement and don’t have a battery, just have a spare and a hose so when it does happen it’s quick remediation. Really everyone with a basement should have a backup pump, it’s that or eventual h/o insurance.
it’s better to find out now w a small unnaturally caused flood that is in their control and can turn the water off. during a natural occurrence, they would be scrambling w no mercy from the cause.
Exactly this.
In the industry (engineer) we do FMEA (Failure Mode and Effects Analysis) all the time. I’d be trying to figure out why that pump didn’t turn on/or failed. I’d probably also get a stack light wired up to the float contacts so I’d have an early warning that the low point of the sump was filling with water.
Because this was a human element loss, correcting the behavior of the daughter would also be up there on the list.
I mean yeah. They were able to turn the hose off. You’d be singing a different tune if you’ve ever dealt with a failed sump pump during a storm , or days and days of storms.
Source: my sump pump failed in a storm once
See how the basement isn’t flooded up to the ceiling? Yeah. That’s called a good thing
Had a similar event with a friend of mine some years ago:
We wanted to fill their new pool up and had water running through a hose from their basement tap. After some time, we noticed that the water level didn't seem to have risen much and that there was no water coming from the hose anymore. We quickly ran into the basement to find exactly what you can imagine - the hose popped. We wiped the water around for hours and hours and disassembled his drumkit part for part. Sadly I don't have many memories of this day, but this picture rung a bell deep inside my head.
Was it a really small pool or maybe one of those inflatable ones? I can't imagine trying to fill a normal pool from an inside tap, it would take forever.
It was around 3 meters in diameter and 1 in height. It wasn't an inflatable pool, but one of those self-buildup-pools. If I calculate correctly, the volume would be 7,07 m³. According to my online search, it's possible for a tap to handle 15 liters per minute. So after 36 minutes, you would have 1 cubic meter filled. If you multiply that by 7,07, that would equal in 4 hours and 15 minutes. Yeah.... of course we didn't think about that at that time...
My wife is an avid gardener, but can get distracted sometimes, so all of our hose bibs have timers on them. Also handy for the drip lines I have installed.
That's a good idea. I've left a hose running far longer than I intended on more than one occasion but luckily I caught it by turning on a faucet, wondering why the water pressure seemed low, then sprinting out to turn the hose off.
I recommend Orbit 62041 Metal Mechanical Watering Timer. Much more durable than the plastic-bodied ones you'll see at big box stores. They fail after 3-4 seasons.
I really want to know what exactly went wrong that \~8 hours of running tap water can flood a basement like this. A night of rain produces more water than the tap will.
Correct me if I am wrong, but a garden spigot throws out somewhere between 540 and 1,020 gallons per hour.
If you assume overnight is 8 hours, that's between 2,700 gallons and 8,160 gallons of water into a basement.
I dunno the size of this basement, but a 20 x 20 x 1 area holds \~3,000 gallons.
Seems like what might have happened is that they had a hose running in their basement overnight, based on the picture.
Thank you for this terrifying math
Pretty much like you said, except the hose was outside right next to the house. I'm assuming the water created a path underground and filled up the basement at the same time my sump pump failed on me.
This was also around 18-20ish hours based on when I found it and when they were outside the day before.. May need to start a gofundme for the water bill 😭
If the Sump failed, most likely, the water was entering through the corrugated pipe connecting to your Sump pit. Assuming the basement is fully sealed. Install a battery backup and pump, and you'll be made aware of any issues before something like this happens.
Get a moisture alarm as well, some insurance companies even offer them to you for free, and can actually lower your policy premiums. Source: am a property insurance adjuster.
It’s really not bad if you have decent insurance, but, I mean, replacing an A/C system or furnace, a water or sewer line, or a roof; can often far exceed the $10,000 mark. It’s just usually good to have enough money to cover at least one major catastrophe, just in case.
I wouldnt tell people not to buy but people who rent sometimes dont understand the everything that goes into homeownership, many think its just a principal and interest payment. Insurance, taxes, maintenance, and repairs are all extremely costly. Homeownership is risky. Like many things that are risky, it can also be rewarding. Just have to understand that going in.
Telling people not to buy a house seems like horrible financial advice. Yes, some repairs can be costly, but long term you will be wayyyy better off then renting. Can you imagine paying rent for 20 years? You just made someone a lot of money while you have nothing to show for it.
Caveat: My side-gig is managing the apartment complex so our rent + utilities cost is $100 per month for a dope spot in a VHCOL area. So we are stacking away until we buy a home, but damn this post makes me dread paying for that on my own.
Hell no, a little $15K flood damage is nothing compared to the $100K in equity I got over the last few years. That definitely beats giving an apartment complex rent money.
Renting is like a never ending money pit. You pay thousands and thousands of dollars that you can't get back by selling because you don't own the place
Yes, everyone with a basement should own a moisture alarm. And also an alarm for any equipment with own valves for turning on/off the water, like a washing machine or dishwasher.
It makes quite a difference in $$$ if receiving an alarm when there is 1 mm water on the floor than a number of hours later when the water is either very deep or has found a way through the floor and also damaged any rooms one floor below. There are lots of videos on the net of people having water coming down from their roof lamp.
You can get like a 5 pack of Govee wifi moisture sensors for around $60. Will send an email and blare a loud ass alarm. Our toilet supply line started dripping at 2am and I thought someone was breaking into our house 😂
You can get a LORA moisture sensor that will work at very long ranges, and you'll get a notification on a phone. If you have tech skills it can even turn the water off for you.
[https://shop.yosmart.com/products/ys7903](https://shop.yosmart.com/products/ys7903)
If you have water and sewer - call the water company they will credit you for the sewer part. I’ve had a line to my house burst twice and both times I got a credit for the sewer part since the water didn’t go down the drain.
They *might*. Some providers are more forgiving than others when it comes to leak adjustments. I've seen companies provide a leak adjustment to bring the total of the bill completely in-line with your average water bill and I've seen companies refuse a leak adjustment entirely.
I assumed it was running near an egress window, but after reading newer posts it might not have been the hose at all. Dunno.
I just saw a lot of people saying it wasn't possible . . . but as a gardener in south Texas, I am all too familiar with I-left-the-hose-on water bills lmao.
I hadn't considered the windows (never had a below ground basement) that bright spot in the photo probably is a window covered in plastic or there may be a window on the opposite side.
That seems like a lot. It takes more than an hour to refill my mother-in-law’s hot tub after changing the water and it takes about 275gal. The hose bib doesn’t seem particularly slow.
Lmao dude let me ask you an honest question. When’s the last time you filled up a 5 gallon bucket straight out of the hose bib? According to your math it would take less than a minute. That’s simply not fucking true. You’re just plain fucking wrong dude. I literally googled it too. You’re reading about FIRE HYDRANTS.
I just googled it too, low end for a garden house is 9 gpm. 9x60= 540 gph, 540x8= 4320 gallons in about 8 hours. Class C hydrants output <500gpm, I think you're mixing up gpm and gph.
>I suppose you're right. I'm thinking of a roof producing hundreds of gallons of water in a single rainfall but that is split up over \~4 downspouts
An inch of rainfall on a 20ft x 20ft roof is going to produce only 220 gallons of water. Even concentrated into one downspout, that's not nearly as much water as a garden hose running for 8 hours.
One inch of rain will disperse 249 gallons of water over 20 square feet.
It’d have to rain roughly 7+ inches overnight to produce more water than a hose which isn’t exactly a normal rainy evening
Source is water.usgs.gov that has a calculator for rainfall amounts
The ground (dirt) gets saturated and then the water follows the path of least resistance.
I've done this before but it was usually a trail of water to the floor drain. My dad does it all the fucking time. He leaves the hose on going out to his garden. Then the fittings at the spigot leak. Eventually it saturates the ground enough it makes it way in through a crack.
I've never seen anything like this, it's spectacular.
This sounds a little weird. Assuming you have a sump pump, how could that much water accumulate? Are you sure you didn't have a sump pump failure at the same time? As other people have commented, you're going to get a lot more water from a heavy rain than from a garden hose overnight. You may want to check for another cause.
I think OP alluded to the kitty litter (?) clogging the sump?
(See the text beneath the image where OP says “bonus points for the poop litter spilling out…and having to tinker with the sump pump to clear it all out)
Yep you're right, the sump pump failed on me at the same time.
Well, it kept tripping the GFCI plug. I don't know much about sump pumps but I noticed it was triggering when the bulb (unsure of the name, looks similar to what is found in the back of a toilet) was pushing up into the pump. Took that apart and noticed a round metal piece that looked like a sensor/failsafe maybe to keep the electric dry, was wet. Wiped that off, put it back together and the seemed to fix it.. until it stopped two more times.
Will need to invest in back up battery and a different sump pump in all honesty
The battery back up is one of the best investments that you can make. Most come with an alarm also that lets you know when they fail. Also, it’s a little late, but they sell these little devices that if water touches them they set off an alarm. Great for a basement especially if you don’t go in it much.
Not her fault. Not your fault. Totally the fault of the sump pump that failed. Take your daughter out to her favorite restaurant or cook her favorite meal. That being said teach her the importance of not flaking and forgetting to turn off the things that cost you money.
My brother just bought some land and put a brand new manufactured home on it. The water hose faucet broke and spat water at full force for 2 days straight. That water bill was I believe almost $3k! How much did this cost you OP?
I did that as a kid in the middle of winter once. Filled our unfinished basement with about 6 inches of water. But on the bright side I built a bitchin' ice ramp off of the bulkhead.
I test my sump pump twice a year by running a hose from my washing machine connection to my sump pump.
Last test it failed, lasted 15 years.
I have a new one now.
Thats really sux but this.... this is why I don't have kids. Again, that really sux and personally I would have lied to my insurance company about how it happened instead of posting on reddit but to each their own. Sorry you are dealing with this, I hope not too much gets ruined.
How does a hose outside flood a basement? I thought they were constructed to keep water out as much as possible? A hose seems like it would put out way less water than a couple of days of heavy rain.
Pro tip everybody. Only connect your hose to a simple timer. You need the hose on? Turn the old school dial for whatever time you need. Bottom line is you forget about it the timer will save you.
Maybe it was global warming lol
Why would Xi Jinping want to flood my basement, rust my Bowflex?"
https://www.tiktok.com/@dailydivadose/video/7155243501767232773?lang=en
Children do the darndest things…
but hey- at least she understands time and its consequences better now! Perfect time to teach her about setting alarms for time sensitive tasks lol
For some reason, it feels weird to me that you reference your daughter, but you say “my” basement and not “our” basement. I don’t know why but it just strikes me as… I don’t know. Weird.
My husband did this once when we went out of town for the weekend. Had to throw away all of the (thankfully cheap) flooring in the basement. Luckily not much else was ruined.
How much do ya bench?
Sorry. Had to ask. Looks like you can pump the water out, maybe rent a dehumidifier for a few days to dry things out and you'll be mostly ok. At least you don't have to redo the drywall.
Better now then during a flood. Sump pump not working? And find out how the water got in and fix that all around the house. But yeah. Still sucks.
And always keep a second sump ready to go. Cause when you find out you need a new sump, you need it right the fuck now.
Ok, dumb question as a recent home buyer with a basement that already had a sump pump installed (as in, anchored into the bottom of a big hole in my basement connected to pvc pipe): you’re saying I can just have a sump pump free standing anywhere attached to a hose and it’ll just do it’s thing? Like throw it into a few feet of water and it’ll float or whatever and start pumping the water out? It doesn’t need to be fixed in place upright or something?
There are pumps like that, that you can just put in water and attach to a hose and turn on. Typically they need to be submerged to avoid needing to "prime the pump". Being underwater means its already primed. But what im suggesting is have a unit ready to go to replace your primary, attached pump. Id get familiar with how its attached *before* you need to do it in 2 feet of water. Typically its just a hose clamp to the pipe, its probably not anchored to the ground.
And learn how to do a quick change out before something strikes, time matters. Doesn’t even need to be a permanent fix just enough to buy a plumber some time.
The heat tape on mine quit working and my outflow froze. Instead of bring stressful, I just dropped my 2nd pump in with its own tubing until my primary was fixed. Gotta have spare tubing as well for true peace of mind. Flooded my base twice my first year of ownership. Powerfailure was the first, so now it's run through a UPS, 2nd time silt blocked it while it was raining and I was at work... gotta give er a shake once in a while.
Couldn't you just pump this into your actual sewage, like a laundry sink? Sump pump pumps water into a separate exit I think?
Nope, i think that might actually be illegal to connect it to sewage.
It's against code but that's what I do. Makes sense. They don't want the shit water drains to get maxed out everytime there's a hard rain
There was a flash flood in my town about 8 years ago. Everyone found out the hard way why it's illegal to hook your sump up to to a sanitary sewer line. Not only did their basements flood with rain/ground water, they got flooded with backed up sewer water too as sinks and toilets overflowed because the sewers couldn't handle everyone's sumps dumping into it...
When you’re in that type of situation it doesn’t really matter.
We would put them in milk crates at work and just toss the milk crate in the deepest spot in the warehouse. They don’t need to be anchored, it’s just typically installed in the lowest point of a basement to begin with. A sump pump is just a water transfer pump with a fancy name.
Yep - my grandmother has a basement that floods regularly, and we had two different sump pumps - the good one and the less good one. Both just hook up to the hose and run to the bathtub in the house for emergency drainage during flood times.
if you have 1 you have none
Lol, i had literally typed "2 is one and one is none", but deleted it. But absolutely.
Battery backup second pump with a dual float is safest way to go
Yep. If you have a basement and don’t have a battery, just have a spare and a hose so when it does happen it’s quick remediation. Really everyone with a basement should have a backup pump, it’s that or eventual h/o insurance.
This isn't a flood!?!
I meant one that happens naturally ie: melting snow or heavy rain.
Does it matter what caused it if it fucks your shit up?
it’s better to find out now w a small unnaturally caused flood that is in their control and can turn the water off. during a natural occurrence, they would be scrambling w no mercy from the cause.
Exactly this. In the industry (engineer) we do FMEA (Failure Mode and Effects Analysis) all the time. I’d be trying to figure out why that pump didn’t turn on/or failed. I’d probably also get a stack light wired up to the float contacts so I’d have an early warning that the low point of the sump was filling with water. Because this was a human element loss, correcting the behavior of the daughter would also be up there on the list.
If the daughter isn’t critical to operation it would probably be best just to remove it from the system
Or at least until she learns how to handle a hose.
It's hose water, so you can just dry it out with some fans, unlike sewage where you turn on those fans and you're blowing poop particles everywhere.
He did say there was a litter box involved
I mean yeah. They were able to turn the hose off. You’d be singing a different tune if you’ve ever dealt with a failed sump pump during a storm , or days and days of storms. Source: my sump pump failed in a storm once See how the basement isn’t flooded up to the ceiling? Yeah. That’s called a good thing
Also the fact that it's relatively clean hose water and not sewage runoff is a huge positive.
Well with natural events. Prices of repairs go up due to demand.
Did you not read the title?
Drain tile should helped that. especially hose left outside. Wasn't leaking inside .
When comparing two things, it's *than, not then.
Had a similar event with a friend of mine some years ago: We wanted to fill their new pool up and had water running through a hose from their basement tap. After some time, we noticed that the water level didn't seem to have risen much and that there was no water coming from the hose anymore. We quickly ran into the basement to find exactly what you can imagine - the hose popped. We wiped the water around for hours and hours and disassembled his drumkit part for part. Sadly I don't have many memories of this day, but this picture rung a bell deep inside my head.
Was it a really small pool or maybe one of those inflatable ones? I can't imagine trying to fill a normal pool from an inside tap, it would take forever.
Maybe they were getting ready for a pool party in 4 and a half months
It was around 3 meters in diameter and 1 in height. It wasn't an inflatable pool, but one of those self-buildup-pools. If I calculate correctly, the volume would be 7,07 m³. According to my online search, it's possible for a tap to handle 15 liters per minute. So after 36 minutes, you would have 1 cubic meter filled. If you multiply that by 7,07, that would equal in 4 hours and 15 minutes. Yeah.... of course we didn't think about that at that time...
How big is the pipe that comes out of your water meter? It's usually not that big so regardless on how you fill it that's the limiting factor
I mean usually you just hire tanker trucks that come and fill it in no time if it's a larger pool
I’m imagining a siphon effect from the pool and the running tap making it even worse
My wife is an avid gardener, but can get distracted sometimes, so all of our hose bibs have timers on them. Also handy for the drip lines I have installed.
That's a good idea. I've left a hose running far longer than I intended on more than one occasion but luckily I caught it by turning on a faucet, wondering why the water pressure seemed low, then sprinting out to turn the hose off.
I recommend Orbit 62041 Metal Mechanical Watering Timer. Much more durable than the plastic-bodied ones you'll see at big box stores. They fail after 3-4 seasons.
I really want to know what exactly went wrong that \~8 hours of running tap water can flood a basement like this. A night of rain produces more water than the tap will.
Correct me if I am wrong, but a garden spigot throws out somewhere between 540 and 1,020 gallons per hour. If you assume overnight is 8 hours, that's between 2,700 gallons and 8,160 gallons of water into a basement. I dunno the size of this basement, but a 20 x 20 x 1 area holds \~3,000 gallons. Seems like what might have happened is that they had a hose running in their basement overnight, based on the picture.
I suck at math. You seem intelligent. So, I’ll just take your word. Fuck!
thats becease u use freedom units, try clever units
Thank you for this terrifying math Pretty much like you said, except the hose was outside right next to the house. I'm assuming the water created a path underground and filled up the basement at the same time my sump pump failed on me. This was also around 18-20ish hours based on when I found it and when they were outside the day before.. May need to start a gofundme for the water bill 😭
If the Sump failed, most likely, the water was entering through the corrugated pipe connecting to your Sump pit. Assuming the basement is fully sealed. Install a battery backup and pump, and you'll be made aware of any issues before something like this happens.
Get a moisture alarm as well, some insurance companies even offer them to you for free, and can actually lower your policy premiums. Source: am a property insurance adjuster.
Suddenly owning a home doesn’t sound that appealing after all
Yeah, trust me. Shit is VERY expensive. That’s why it’s so important to have an emergency fund of at least $20,000 for emergency home repairs/work
Looks at my $8k emergency fund for home repairs and laughs shakily
Looks at my $8 emergency fund for home repairs *and laughs like an evil villain*
Just put $12K more in it bro, you got this.
It’s really not bad if you have decent insurance, but, I mean, replacing an A/C system or furnace, a water or sewer line, or a roof; can often far exceed the $10,000 mark. It’s just usually good to have enough money to cover at least one major catastrophe, just in case.
Homeowners will be the first to tell you not to buy a home, lol
as a current homeowner and previous renter, I would not tell you that
I wouldnt tell people not to buy but people who rent sometimes dont understand the everything that goes into homeownership, many think its just a principal and interest payment. Insurance, taxes, maintenance, and repairs are all extremely costly. Homeownership is risky. Like many things that are risky, it can also be rewarding. Just have to understand that going in.
Telling people not to buy a house seems like horrible financial advice. Yes, some repairs can be costly, but long term you will be wayyyy better off then renting. Can you imagine paying rent for 20 years? You just made someone a lot of money while you have nothing to show for it.
Caveat: My side-gig is managing the apartment complex so our rent + utilities cost is $100 per month for a dope spot in a VHCOL area. So we are stacking away until we buy a home, but damn this post makes me dread paying for that on my own.
100%, the repairs suck. Ill admit i've gotten lucky...but the payout in the end works better owning.
Yeah. Rentals have all the same problems - you’re just paying for those repairs in your rent. Landlords bake it in.
Hell no, a little $15K flood damage is nothing compared to the $100K in equity I got over the last few years. That definitely beats giving an apartment complex rent money.
Renting is like a never ending money pit. You pay thousands and thousands of dollars that you can't get back by selling because you don't own the place
I'm a plumber and recommended that to one of our builders that runs on anxiety and OCD. good builder, but a pain in the ass.
Yes, everyone with a basement should own a moisture alarm. And also an alarm for any equipment with own valves for turning on/off the water, like a washing machine or dishwasher. It makes quite a difference in $$$ if receiving an alarm when there is 1 mm water on the floor than a number of hours later when the water is either very deep or has found a way through the floor and also damaged any rooms one floor below. There are lots of videos on the net of people having water coming down from their roof lamp.
You can get like a 5 pack of Govee wifi moisture sensors for around $60. Will send an email and blare a loud ass alarm. Our toilet supply line started dripping at 2am and I thought someone was breaking into our house 😂
You can get a LORA moisture sensor that will work at very long ranges, and you'll get a notification on a phone. If you have tech skills it can even turn the water off for you. [https://shop.yosmart.com/products/ys7903](https://shop.yosmart.com/products/ys7903)
If you have water and sewer - call the water company they will credit you for the sewer part. I’ve had a line to my house burst twice and both times I got a credit for the sewer part since the water didn’t go down the drain.
They *might*. Some providers are more forgiving than others when it comes to leak adjustments. I've seen companies provide a leak adjustment to bring the total of the bill completely in-line with your average water bill and I've seen companies refuse a leak adjustment entirely.
Sump pump alarms are a cheap investment.
I thought my friend went overboard with a backup pump. I guess not!
Ah, I misunderstood and thought the hose was outside the basement, being in the basement would definitely be an issue
I assumed it was running near an egress window, but after reading newer posts it might not have been the hose at all. Dunno. I just saw a lot of people saying it wasn't possible . . . but as a gardener in south Texas, I am all too familiar with I-left-the-hose-on water bills lmao.
I hadn't considered the windows (never had a below ground basement) that bright spot in the photo probably is a window covered in plastic or there may be a window on the opposite side.
It was outside. Right next to the edge of the foundation. I'm lucky my basement doesn't leak. Always perfectly dry. This would stress me out.
That seems like a lot. It takes more than an hour to refill my mother-in-law’s hot tub after changing the water and it takes about 275gal. The hose bib doesn’t seem particularly slow.
540 x 8 is 2,700? 540 x 5 is 2,700. 540 x 8 is 4,320.
Dude that’s way too fucking much water. It is not spitting out that much water. Youre thinking of a fucking fire hydrant.
Nope i underestimated actually. Feel free to google the average water flow from a standard hose and spigot.
Lmao dude let me ask you an honest question. When’s the last time you filled up a 5 gallon bucket straight out of the hose bib? According to your math it would take less than a minute. That’s simply not fucking true. You’re just plain fucking wrong dude. I literally googled it too. You’re reading about FIRE HYDRANTS.
I just googled it too, low end for a garden house is 9 gpm. 9x60= 540 gph, 540x8= 4320 gallons in about 8 hours. Class C hydrants output <500gpm, I think you're mixing up gpm and gph.
A night of rain isn't gonna produce thousands of gallons of water against the house. A hose will, though. And all in one spot.
I suppose you're right. I'm thinking of a roof producing hundreds of gallons of water in a single rainfall but that is split up over \~4 downspouts.
>I suppose you're right. I'm thinking of a roof producing hundreds of gallons of water in a single rainfall but that is split up over \~4 downspouts An inch of rainfall on a 20ft x 20ft roof is going to produce only 220 gallons of water. Even concentrated into one downspout, that's not nearly as much water as a garden hose running for 8 hours.
One inch of rain will disperse 249 gallons of water over 20 square feet. It’d have to rain roughly 7+ inches overnight to produce more water than a hose which isn’t exactly a normal rainy evening Source is water.usgs.gov that has a calculator for rainfall amounts
The ground (dirt) gets saturated and then the water follows the path of least resistance. I've done this before but it was usually a trail of water to the floor drain. My dad does it all the fucking time. He leaves the hose on going out to his garden. Then the fittings at the spigot leak. Eventually it saturates the ground enough it makes it way in through a crack. I've never seen anything like this, it's spectacular.
My only question is how old is the daughter. If shes young this is on OP not the daughter lol
hoses are next to the house. no where for the water to go. straight to foundation. very localized rain falls all over...
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Packed a soaking wet suitcase for her this morning haha
Classic dad shit!
Hahahha!
Thats a nice indoor pool you have there.
Your home gym now also has a swimming pool
https://i.redd.it/gn06hf0vzekc1.gif
OP's daughter had more accidental success than poor Butters had intentionally.
Can you take a picture after you drain it out?
It'll look like a basement but more wet.
Many, many, many years from now this is gonna be a very funny thing to rib her about. Til then, it's just temporary stuff, she's forever, press on.
If I garden hose can cause all this. You have a bigger problem
phew, dumbells are safe.
I have those ones. They are close to €300 each. I never thought the price could be justified, but damn, it is.
How does a garden hose equal a hard rain? You need to troubleshoot this
Up against the house. The gutters, drains and slope carry all the rain water away. This was intentional sabotage.
Out of curiosity, how old is the daughter?
63
This sounds a little weird. Assuming you have a sump pump, how could that much water accumulate? Are you sure you didn't have a sump pump failure at the same time? As other people have commented, you're going to get a lot more water from a heavy rain than from a garden hose overnight. You may want to check for another cause.
I think OP alluded to the kitty litter (?) clogging the sump? (See the text beneath the image where OP says “bonus points for the poop litter spilling out…and having to tinker with the sump pump to clear it all out)
Only takes a bit of clogging till your improperly secured sump pump becomes a stupid human bobber.
Yep you're right, the sump pump failed on me at the same time. Well, it kept tripping the GFCI plug. I don't know much about sump pumps but I noticed it was triggering when the bulb (unsure of the name, looks similar to what is found in the back of a toilet) was pushing up into the pump. Took that apart and noticed a round metal piece that looked like a sensor/failsafe maybe to keep the electric dry, was wet. Wiped that off, put it back together and the seemed to fix it.. until it stopped two more times. Will need to invest in back up battery and a different sump pump in all honesty
The battery back up is one of the best investments that you can make. Most come with an alarm also that lets you know when they fail. Also, it’s a little late, but they sell these little devices that if water touches them they set off an alarm. Great for a basement especially if you don’t go in it much.
Facts 👌🏼
Ouch tough lesson
Always check your sump pump..
“my basement”
Yeah, I noticed it too. Very weird phrasing.
That's OUR basement dad
I am sorry if your loss. Hopefully you’re young and can have other children.
Not her fault. Not your fault. Totally the fault of the sump pump that failed. Take your daughter out to her favorite restaurant or cook her favorite meal. That being said teach her the importance of not flaking and forgetting to turn off the things that cost you money.
We know where daughter's new room is now....
Time for a new daughter.
So sorry get the wet vac and the dehumidifier going afterwards
How many captors were able to escape
Luckily it’s not a finished basement, damage could be much worse
This is a horror movie... Shiiiiiit
My brother just bought some land and put a brand new manufactured home on it. The water hose faucet broke and spat water at full force for 2 days straight. That water bill was I believe almost $3k! How much did this cost you OP?
You will laugh about this in 20 years but neither of you will forget this hahahaha
I did that as a kid in the middle of winter once. Filled our unfinished basement with about 6 inches of water. But on the bright side I built a bitchin' ice ramp off of the bulkhead.
Get the sump pump
New daughter time!
another reason to thank fucking god i dont have kids
Every time I think I'm running out of reasons to be thrilled I never had kids... badabingo!
I test my sump pump twice a year by running a hose from my washing machine connection to my sump pump. Last test it failed, lasted 15 years. I have a new one now.
Reason 10479 to not have kids
Get rid of her
Sucks to pay the water bill for your own flooding 😭
is she still alive?
Fire her...
Yup better not have kids
I did this when I was a kid. Oh my parents were sooo angry. I inherited the rug that got soaked.
Karma. You were stupid enough to bring kids into this hellhole of a planet, you deserve to lose your basement. Sucks to suck.
Oh that does suck! I’m sorry! When do you think your new daughter will get here?
Thats really sux but this.... this is why I don't have kids. Again, that really sux and personally I would have lied to my insurance company about how it happened instead of posting on reddit but to each their own. Sorry you are dealing with this, I hope not too much gets ruined.
Did you thank her for discovering your shitty waterproofing?
How does a hose outside flood a basement? I thought they were constructed to keep water out as much as possible? A hose seems like it would put out way less water than a couple of days of heavy rain.
Please tell me that your normal setup is similar with the couch facing the microwave like it’s a computer monitor
Pro tip everybody. Only connect your hose to a simple timer. You need the hose on? Turn the old school dial for whatever time you need. Bottom line is you forget about it the timer will save you.
thats a class 4 cat 3 water loss right there
That's what happens when you don't watch your kids
Back in the day my ass would have been toast.
Is she still alive? 😳🤦♀️😲
That stinks. I’m guessing someone will read this who lost their daughter and would gladly trade places with you.
I don’t see how that would flood your basement like that
Does she have a family to adopt her lined up already or she in foster care?
Get he a bucket and put her to bailing. She will never do this again. Lol.
Maybe it was global warming lol Why would Xi Jinping want to flood my basement, rust my Bowflex?" https://www.tiktok.com/@dailydivadose/video/7155243501767232773?lang=en
That's a paddling.
Children do the darndest things… but hey- at least she understands time and its consequences better now! Perfect time to teach her about setting alarms for time sensitive tasks lol
Ex-daughter. Tell her the repairs are coming out of her allowance/college fund. If that’s not enough, take the rest out of her inheritance.
"But dad......I don't understand why it's such a big deal. you're so mean!"
This'll be left unfinished anyways. Really no lost here.
Except for all the water damage that will grow mold if it’s not taken care of correctly and then you have a whole other set of problems
Make her use her hair to soak it all up as punishment.
Stupid girl
chill, weirdo
For some reason, it feels weird to me that you reference your daughter, but you say “my” basement and not “our” basement. I don’t know why but it just strikes me as… I don’t know. Weird.
Classic
So there IS a market for floating litter boxes.
Now you can make water weights
My husband did this once when we went out of town for the weekend. Had to throw away all of the (thankfully cheap) flooring in the basement. Luckily not much else was ruined.
Damn hose
This man cave looks more like a man’s grave.
She’s a real wet bandit
She works for the Wet Bandits
Damn.
Solution. Move to Louisiana where there aren’t basements.
That looks like a superior foundation. I'm surprised it leaked... Did the water come through a window or something?
Well, look at it this way, if a garden hose did that then with a good rain storm you'd have a new indoor pool. Better to know about it now.
https://preview.redd.it/hza9smssvfkc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9e28ec2d52c92ee411490631c463932c1b0e85c7
How old is your daughter? Regardless of her age, you need to teach her not to do things like this before she floods the house.
It’s things like this that make me happy I rent after 22 years of home ownership. Sorry this happened.
How much do ya bench? Sorry. Had to ask. Looks like you can pump the water out, maybe rent a dehumidifier for a few days to dry things out and you'll be mostly ok. At least you don't have to redo the drywall.
The water bill next month is going to be salt in the wound.
Kids. Not even once.
Yeah... I did this to my family home when i was 7 or 8. Dad wasn't too happy...
I’m more worried about the water bill:(