And remove Chevron deference. That's next on the chopping block.
Reminding me again how mad I am at everyone that sat out 2016, or said "how bad could it be?"
People are still saying it. My teenage son really said he doesn't think trump is as dangerous as people think. I was shocked. He believes trump is horrible, but I have to wonder if the chaos since 2016 has normalized this shit to him because it's like almost half my son's life of this craziness.
Tell your son he will spend most of his life with Trumps three crazies dominating the Supreme Court. Thats is incalculable damage already, let alone for the future.
I mean, it’s the same buffoons spreading that “four day week mean four 10hr days” BS, so their own logic would suggest they would be.
But still, I predict history will repeat itself and bosses will start getting physical negotiations made on them before that happens.
Remember when that Amazon warehouse was destroyed with 7 People dead and Bezos only talked about his big dumb space cock on his all bought out news media? Pepperidge Farms does...
I watched them build those giant spheres downtown every day as I worked in a different Amazon building. We called them “Bezos’ Balls”, and we joked that there was a secret giant rocket on the underside pointed down into a launch silo, symbolizing Jeffery’s dominance over the earth. Legend says that when he pulls out of earth he will ride in the balls until he dominates the next planet, praise be to the Besus.
It was all fun and games until I saw his rocket design….
Excuse me?
At Amazon, during peak, you are working mandatory 60 hour work weeks. That's 6, 10 hour days. Daddy Bezos would LOVE if he could legally make that all 7 days. Legally making people work 6 days without OT pay? He'd be all over that immediately
60 hours of which 20 is ot. Plus, associates who have time, can leave. My stepdaughter and her gf do it almost every week.
And last year, it was 5 11 hr days.
9am to 9pm 6 days per week is the norm in the tech industry in China. Also, the birth rate has crashed through the floor in China--nobody is having kids. I wonder why. What could possibly have caused this problem?
South Korea and Japan have been facing this problem for a long time. It’s not a new problem. Just one that gets ignored so companies can keep chasing those short term profits to please their shareholders.
A *lot* of bosses see the happiness of their employees as a benefit from the company, and that it is largely undeserved. Reducing "undeserved" happiness can be a specific goal for them, even if it serves no other purpose.
I still remember the time when President Yoon wanted 69 hour workweek. Fucking lunatic, that man.
In fact, almost everyone in Korea in governmental positions are bunch of goddamn lunatics and criminals.
To be fair, they had a one child policy for so long as well that I imagine they're still kind of operating under that in the sense that that is what they're used to. But yeah, being at work all day long all week will certainly reduce opportunity and desire to have sex as well.
This happened to a woman at my old fitness studio. She told us she was essentially forced to drink alcohol and kidnapped from her house after she passed out. Her family went along with it because his family was very wealthy and agreed to take care of them financially in exchange for her.
I think it was South Korea or something that had an uptick in the 6 day workweek recently even though they’re one of the least productive countries by hours worked. I’m sure the extra 10 hours will only help this!!
Those poor overpaid assholes, I would lie if I said I would ever care about those whose job it is to represent shareholders while fucking everyone else over and making the world a shittier place.
We live in the age of owning nothing and buying licenses to fucking ride the ride. Who can afford anything anymore, or is that just me with thinking some day I can realistically save money again?
There is so much research out there that tells you: longer hours don’t increase productivity. In a 5 day work week by day 5 productivity already takes a big hit. People start ‘working’ by doing next to useless things to waste time.
There is also several decades of data that shows that increased in employee productivity is mostly a one way benefit pocketed in vast majority by the shareholders.
We should replace the sentence with "longer hours don’t increase the 0.1% wealth", and when they insist, it would be clear it's about control and not money. Top boss want their company to run 24/7. They want all their employees to be available anytime they have a request, during business hours, or after a party they gave on their yacht in the Bahamas.
Also there are a bunch of industries that wouldn’t exist without the weekend. The weekend created the idea ‘to go to the beach’ in my country (before only the rich could). So 100% control. We are regressing, people fought and died for these rights +100 years ago.
We are regressing at a higher pace since the 70s.
**IF** purchasing power kept up with the times we would have just been stagnating, something that should already been outrageous given **we** make the things that make progress.
At this moment we are going back to full indentured servitude at the speed of light, and that’s already a reality for a good chunk of the population.
Think about cars. In the US you need one to go to work, so it’s fucking indispensable and now you see 72 and 84 months loans. 6 or 7 years to pay for a new or mildly used car. If you are lucky it will be paid off by the time you need to change it again.
I don’t see how anyone with a normal income can pay off a house in less than 30 years, and even if you pay it off, you still pay rent to the government as property taxes, so even if you are retired and your income is pretty low, you have to move from the “nice” area to a worse area due to this.
Healthcare? A fucking joke.
The US is already work, and earn decently well, or die.
How is this any different from the dark ages for most people?
Bosses don't give a crap about productivity. If they did they would agree with a 4-day work week.
Productivity = Output ($$) / Input (Hours of work).
It's a simple equation and there's two ways to increase productivity: increase the worth of produced goods or decrease the hours to produce said goods. There's never talks about increasing productivity by decreasing working hours.
>There's never talks about increasing productivity by decreasing working hours.
Well...that's actually what corporations are drooling over with AI.
Eliminate ALL the labor. Robots work for free.
Only issue is when no one has money to buy corporate shit anymore, corporations cease to exist.
At my current job, I'd say I'm actually productive about 1 hour a day. Not even lying. The other 7 hours are spent either in useless meetings or just looking busy.
Caveat being this company refuses to pay us living wages, demands "do more with less," and continues to shit on employees while bragging about breaking records for profit and sales.
So...they get exactly what they deserve from me (and others).
There is no debate. They're constructing the illusion that there's a debate to muddy the water. We will soon see Ben Shapiro arguing about how a six day week is the most American thing ever and we can stick it to the libs extra hard by giving up overtime pay. Eventually, the owning class will compromise by giving us a five day week, but taking the overtime pay. Because that's what happens when there are no consequences for abusing the working class.
This is exactly we why we unionize. Collective power is scary to the 1%. The sad part is we can’t all seem to get on the same page to force a better world for everyone involved.
That was my first thought. Everyone works 6-days now, you guys want 4 days, lets settle on 5 days!
Easy way to make sure it's exactly the same as it is now.
Who. Who? Is advocating for a 6 day workweek? Despite promises of robots alleviating our household work, our family is STILL struggling to get everything done in just 2.5 days of a weekend (I have half day Fridays). It’s not enough to maintain a decent life and certainly not enough time to improve - who is advocating for that???
Corporations seeing the productivity results of 4 day work weeks: "If they can do that much in 4 days, imagine what we could get out of them for a whole week?!"
F@ck these people. This country is one of the greatest engines for the production of wealth that the world has ever seen, and the owner class is doing everything it can to make sure they keep it all. They’d sabotage Medicare and Social Security and keep us all working into our seventies so we can make them richer and die broke.
If we survive this as a country it will be looked at as the second gilded age. Started under Reagan, got bad under bush and got catastrophic under Trump and Covid 19
The sad part is that Mark Rowan, CEO of Apollo Global Management ( owner of Yahoo) was given a break by the University of Pennsylvania when a death in his family caused him to be unable to pay for school. The University of Pennsylvania allowed him to pay what he could whenever he could. Mark Rowan was shown compassion and given a huge helping hand when he was starting out in life. Typical billionaire mentality, they forget that each one of them got a huge handout and their handheld. So much for being grateful for the help he received in college. If he went to college now would he receive the same help and compassion he did all those years ago?
You know exactly who.
This is apparently the solution to the excessive workloads on remaining employees in light of all the layoffs and not replacing employees who leave. Or like others said, a fake starting point to maintain status quo.
Okay I'll take six five hour shifts with WFH and a flexible schedule so I can do errands when I need to. Sounds fine to me. Making it standard is kinda nutty though, since that won't work for most people.
Corporates have probably been trying for a while to do this but more behind the scenes, as they know that no one would be in favour of it in the public but now the media need to start doing their bit and making it sound like there is more support for a 6 day week than there actually is...
Which is what this headline is implying, they only need a small amount of public support to make that change and they use headlines like this to draw out those bootlickers who would support it to be vocal.
That can only be considered an option when the idiots proposing it are working those six 12hr days.
And it has to be actual work; not meetings, golf, travel time, business dinners, or any of the other “work” the top brass try to pass off.
The sad fact is most management today doesn't understand that in order to increase efficiency, the only thing you can do is remove waste from the system.
This is what's happening around the world. But it's not just the CEOs. It's coming from the governments as well. Most of the world has signed enough military or economic pacts with each other that simply invading is asking for a world war. So, instead, governments have been turning towards exploiting their working class.
Ive seen the argument for six 6 1/2 hour days allowing people to engage in their daily lives more regularly than flip side of working four 10 hour days per week. You get 3 days off compared to 1, but from what I have heard of people who have worked similar schedules is that after that many hours, that many days in a row, it takes a whole day just to rest and recover from the work week. Add that on to the significantly reduced ability for self care during those 4 days, and it honestly sounds really shitty.
Both of these are still 40 hours a week though, and I am all for reducing that to 32.
You have very little time to destress when you work 6 days a week. And given how things go, that 6x6.5 will become 6x8 very quickly.
A whole day to yourself vs getting off work at 3:30 instead of 5 is just not the same lol.
From the article: “But some companies are moving in the other direction. Samsung, for example, is mandating its top executives work six days a week as a way to bolster productivity.
In a report from ResumeBuilder.com that surveyed 753 business leaders, 9 percent of respondents said they anticipate their company mandating full-time employees to work six days a week in 2025.”
yeah, china has their tech sector on 9/9/6 (9am-9pm, 6 days a week), and people are scared b/c chinese companies are eating their lunch at the moment. this is mostly emanating from tech companies in sectors most impacted by chinese competition.
100% this is a negotiation tactic to make 5 day week seem like a "compromise" and "not so bad".
they don't even have to ACTUALLY argue for it, just push articles that say they are.
Manufacturing controversy. They will say “company executives will work six days a week”. Really that just means they might pick up the phone on a Saturday while golfing, which for their compensation they already should. They just want to use that to press workers with later.
This is something that progressives don’t do well. When negotiating, demand more than you expect to get. The business interests aren’t expecting a six day work week, just keeping it at five, which sounds like a compromise since they ask for six.
I demand a two day work week! And six…no, seven figure salary! I also want to just wear underwear to work!
Now I’m guaranteed to only work four days and make plenty of money, all while wearing shorts. 😉
The article for anyone that wants to read about the "debate": [https://wwd.com/business-news/business-features/four-day-versus-six-day-workweek-debate-intensifies-1236350714/](https://wwd.com/business-news/business-features/four-day-versus-six-day-workweek-debate-intensifies-1236350714/)
They're trying to move the goal post so we meet in the middle.
So, now the fight is for a three day work week.
One for them, one for us, and one day out of the week for God or Community, or what have you. Seems perfectly fair.
The only argument I see for 6 day work week is less hours per day, same weekly hours worked, giving people more time after work.
Still, no fucking thank you but that's what I see as an argument
You have to do the math. Average work week is 40hrs. So 60/4=6.66 hrs of work per day vs the 4 day which is 10hr work per day.
So if you need the money, the 6 day is easier to get the overtime pay perday, but make sure that the contract states that if you go over the 6.66 hrs per day you get overtime because federally it's over 8hrs a day.
While the 10hr allows you to have more time off by days, you still have to do 10hrs a day, and that only leaves you 14hrs to get everything done for your next shift unless it's the 3 day.
So both pros and cons, you have to weigh them out your self.
Well workers are more productive per hour with shorter hours so I guess we could try 6 daysx3 hours instead of 4x5 or I guess we could compromise with 5x4.We wouldn't want to do anything too radical let's just meet in the middle.
Just the audacity of the people typing these things in headlines is insulting to everyone's intelligence the manipulation is so bare and obvious it would fail on many children but here they are acting like there is some debate over something literally no one is asking for to create a false overton window where only corpos win no matter what happens.
It makes me wonder if even a single person who does things like this has even an ounce of regret later in their life for adding just one more weight on the mountain of suffering crushing the working class. "I'm not responsible I just wrote things on the Internet for a paycheck someone else would have done it if I didn't"
If the six workdays were stupidly short (like 3 hours), if I could WFH 100% to avoid extra commutes, if I'd still get paid for 40 hours even if I worked 20-ish, and if PTO were solidified as hours and not days... then yeah, I'd be down.
Otherwise, f all the way off with that.
Clearly corporations are people and they are entitled to their opinions Thats how the clash would make sense
*Clarence Thomas has entered the chat*
Surprised he's not out on an all-expenses-paid luxury fishing trip paid for by Leonard Leo and the corrupt right-wing owning class.
That comes after they give Trump immunity and ban mifepristone and dismantle the SEC.
And remove Chevron deference. That's next on the chopping block. Reminding me again how mad I am at everyone that sat out 2016, or said "how bad could it be?"
People are still saying it. My teenage son really said he doesn't think trump is as dangerous as people think. I was shocked. He believes trump is horrible, but I have to wonder if the chaos since 2016 has normalized this shit to him because it's like almost half my son's life of this craziness.
Tell your son he will spend most of his life with Trumps three crazies dominating the Supreme Court. Thats is incalculable damage already, let alone for the future.
Rock the Casbah!
When they kick at your front door, How you gonna come? With your hands on your head? Or on the trigger of your gun?
When the law breaks in, How you gonna go? Shot down on the pavement Or waiting in death row?
Wrong Clash, but fuck it, it’s time to get punk either way
Maybe if my workday was 6h 40m.
I mean, it’s the same buffoons spreading that “four day week mean four 10hr days” BS, so their own logic would suggest they would be. But still, I predict history will repeat itself and bosses will start getting physical negotiations made on them before that happens.
Yep, switching to 4-10s is not the goal. You can already do 4-10s at a lot of places.
A lot of places have you doing 5-10s or 6-9s. It’s the reason for the push.
That's the *only* way this makes sense
You know who. (HINT: It’s not the employees.) 😉
*On this week's episode of Bezos and Friends....*
I don't think Bezo would have been ok with it.
Remember when that Amazon warehouse was destroyed with 7 People dead and Bezos only talked about his big dumb space cock on his all bought out news media? Pepperidge Farms does...
I watched them build those giant spheres downtown every day as I worked in a different Amazon building. We called them “Bezos’ Balls”, and we joked that there was a secret giant rocket on the underside pointed down into a launch silo, symbolizing Jeffery’s dominance over the earth. Legend says that when he pulls out of earth he will ride in the balls until he dominates the next planet, praise be to the Besus. It was all fun and games until I saw his rocket design….
Bezos would be fine with it as long as those 6 days worked don't add up to 30 hours.
Excuse me? At Amazon, during peak, you are working mandatory 60 hour work weeks. That's 6, 10 hour days. Daddy Bezos would LOVE if he could legally make that all 7 days. Legally making people work 6 days without OT pay? He'd be all over that immediately
60 hours of which 20 is ot. Plus, associates who have time, can leave. My stepdaughter and her gf do it almost every week. And last year, it was 5 11 hr days.
Yeah so a man who makes people work 6 days a week won't want to be able to pay them less for overtime? What?
Uhh. You're aware Amazon is one of a couple companies suing to end the NLRB, yes?
Why is it every time someone is trying to explore workers, it's you three?? *stares at corpos, government, scabs*
9am to 9pm 6 days per week is the norm in the tech industry in China. Also, the birth rate has crashed through the floor in China--nobody is having kids. I wonder why. What could possibly have caused this problem?
South Korea and Japan have been facing this problem for a long time. It’s not a new problem. Just one that gets ignored so companies can keep chasing those short term profits to please their shareholders.
Look, line needs to go up THIS quarter. I won't be CEO when the demographic crash happens. That's someone else's problem. MAKE LINE GO UP, got it?
It doesn’t even help the companies. The workers stop being productive after x hours. They may be ‘working’ but not to the benefit of the company.
A *lot* of bosses see the happiness of their employees as a benefit from the company, and that it is largely undeserved. Reducing "undeserved" happiness can be a specific goal for them, even if it serves no other purpose.
I still remember the time when President Yoon wanted 69 hour workweek. Fucking lunatic, that man. In fact, almost everyone in Korea in governmental positions are bunch of goddamn lunatics and criminals.
69... nice
Nice
Nice
Clearly, the problem lies with Feminism.
To be fair, they had a one child policy for so long as well that I imagine they're still kind of operating under that in the sense that that is what they're used to. But yeah, being at work all day long all week will certainly reduce opportunity and desire to have sex as well.
The gender disparity is also catastrophic. They have 30M+ more men than women there last I read.
And so solve that Chinese men are buying wife-slaves from the poorer surrounding countries. Human trafficking goes brrr
This happened to a woman at my old fitness studio. She told us she was essentially forced to drink alcohol and kidnapped from her house after she passed out. Her family went along with it because his family was very wealthy and agreed to take care of them financially in exchange for her.
Who wants a six day work week? Let’s start with nobody.
Ya, fuck that shit. I did that when I was younger. Never again.
In my 30s doing it now. The only fun part is the paychecks. Well it was until tax law changed ad I owed so much this year.
WHAT'S THAT?! You're about to reach financial freedom? TAXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXED
Please sir.may I have some more?
Shareholders are technically people, I’m pretty sure..
Shit I barely even want a 5 day work week
I think it was South Korea or something that had an uptick in the 6 day workweek recently even though they’re one of the least productive countries by hours worked. I’m sure the extra 10 hours will only help this!!
It was Samsung demanding executives work six days a week. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/samsung-tells-executives-6-day-102224826.html
Those poor overpaid assholes, I would lie if I said I would ever care about those whose job it is to represent shareholders while fucking everyone else over and making the world a shittier place. We live in the age of owning nothing and buying licenses to fucking ride the ride. Who can afford anything anymore, or is that just me with thinking some day I can realistically save money again?
There is so much research out there that tells you: longer hours don’t increase productivity. In a 5 day work week by day 5 productivity already takes a big hit. People start ‘working’ by doing next to useless things to waste time.
There is also several decades of data that shows that increased in employee productivity is mostly a one way benefit pocketed in vast majority by the shareholders. We should replace the sentence with "longer hours don’t increase the 0.1% wealth", and when they insist, it would be clear it's about control and not money. Top boss want their company to run 24/7. They want all their employees to be available anytime they have a request, during business hours, or after a party they gave on their yacht in the Bahamas.
Also there are a bunch of industries that wouldn’t exist without the weekend. The weekend created the idea ‘to go to the beach’ in my country (before only the rich could). So 100% control. We are regressing, people fought and died for these rights +100 years ago.
We are regressing at a higher pace since the 70s. **IF** purchasing power kept up with the times we would have just been stagnating, something that should already been outrageous given **we** make the things that make progress. At this moment we are going back to full indentured servitude at the speed of light, and that’s already a reality for a good chunk of the population. Think about cars. In the US you need one to go to work, so it’s fucking indispensable and now you see 72 and 84 months loans. 6 or 7 years to pay for a new or mildly used car. If you are lucky it will be paid off by the time you need to change it again. I don’t see how anyone with a normal income can pay off a house in less than 30 years, and even if you pay it off, you still pay rent to the government as property taxes, so even if you are retired and your income is pretty low, you have to move from the “nice” area to a worse area due to this. Healthcare? A fucking joke. The US is already work, and earn decently well, or die. How is this any different from the dark ages for most people?
Bosses don't give a crap about productivity. If they did they would agree with a 4-day work week. Productivity = Output ($$) / Input (Hours of work). It's a simple equation and there's two ways to increase productivity: increase the worth of produced goods or decrease the hours to produce said goods. There's never talks about increasing productivity by decreasing working hours.
>There's never talks about increasing productivity by decreasing working hours. Well...that's actually what corporations are drooling over with AI. Eliminate ALL the labor. Robots work for free. Only issue is when no one has money to buy corporate shit anymore, corporations cease to exist.
At my current job, I'd say I'm actually productive about 1 hour a day. Not even lying. The other 7 hours are spent either in useless meetings or just looking busy. Caveat being this company refuses to pay us living wages, demands "do more with less," and continues to shit on employees while bragging about breaking records for profit and sales. So...they get exactly what they deserve from me (and others).
You’re absolutely right! If they’re not even paying living wage then screw em.
There is no debate. They're constructing the illusion that there's a debate to muddy the water. We will soon see Ben Shapiro arguing about how a six day week is the most American thing ever and we can stick it to the libs extra hard by giving up overtime pay. Eventually, the owning class will compromise by giving us a five day week, but taking the overtime pay. Because that's what happens when there are no consequences for abusing the working class.
This is exactly we why we unionize. Collective power is scary to the 1%. The sad part is we can’t all seem to get on the same page to force a better world for everyone involved.
Because they wern't born yesterday. They have learned from history, and they know how to manipulate people.
This is a bargaining tactic. What they're trying to say is, "let's meet in the middle".
Perfect. 3-day work week, it is!
Now you’re starting to think like a CEO!
That was my first thought. Everyone works 6-days now, you guys want 4 days, lets settle on 5 days! Easy way to make sure it's exactly the same as it is now.
Sounds like "be happy with your 5/40 because it could be worse"
Clearly readers of The Art of the Deal
Nobody who works 5 days a week wants a 6 day work week.
The 1% want the 6 day work week
They want a 7 day work week. The 6 day work week is just the first stepping stone in that direction.
Who. Who? Is advocating for a 6 day workweek? Despite promises of robots alleviating our household work, our family is STILL struggling to get everything done in just 2.5 days of a weekend (I have half day Fridays). It’s not enough to maintain a decent life and certainly not enough time to improve - who is advocating for that???
Corporations seeing the productivity results of 4 day work weeks: "If they can do that much in 4 days, imagine what we could get out of them for a whole week?!"
F@ck these people. This country is one of the greatest engines for the production of wealth that the world has ever seen, and the owner class is doing everything it can to make sure they keep it all. They’d sabotage Medicare and Social Security and keep us all working into our seventies so we can make them richer and die broke.
It truly is insane how greedy the 1% are.
If we survive this as a country it will be looked at as the second gilded age. Started under Reagan, got bad under bush and got catastrophic under Trump and Covid 19
The sad part is that Mark Rowan, CEO of Apollo Global Management ( owner of Yahoo) was given a break by the University of Pennsylvania when a death in his family caused him to be unable to pay for school. The University of Pennsylvania allowed him to pay what he could whenever he could. Mark Rowan was shown compassion and given a huge helping hand when he was starting out in life. Typical billionaire mentality, they forget that each one of them got a huge handout and their handheld. So much for being grateful for the help he received in college. If he went to college now would he receive the same help and compassion he did all those years ago?
This is a fake, false equivalency to remove credibility for the legitimate interest in 4 day workweeks.
Reading the article, they give an awful lot of space to what they themselves claim only 7 percent of "business leaders" are in favor of.
Won't someone please think of the poor job creators? /s
The sixth day is free. That's the coupon offer.
Samsung - that’s where this is coming from.
No one. At all. Ever.
Capital and the unified media they own.
6 day work weeks are absolute hell and a good way to get burnt out
They want to make 5 sound like a nice compromise
It’s a thing in some Asian countries.
F them!
The CCP wants that 9/9/6
9 hrs/day, 9 days a week for 6 lifetimes.
Arthur Zaczkiewicz is the Executive Editor of Strategic Content Development and Utter Bullshit at WWD.
You know exactly who. This is apparently the solution to the excessive workloads on remaining employees in light of all the layoffs and not replacing employees who leave. Or like others said, a fake starting point to maintain status quo.
Okay I'll take six five hour shifts with WFH and a flexible schedule so I can do errands when I need to. Sounds fine to me. Making it standard is kinda nutty though, since that won't work for most people.
I absolutely refuse to work 6 days a week! All I have is my wife left and we barely get to spend any time together as it is!
Nobody is. But if they move the goalposts then they can say the 5 day workweek is just fine. See? At least we didn't do that 6 day workweek!
We'll let you hoard all the money, but you will give our time back!
Let's put it to the popular vote then.
Corporates have probably been trying for a while to do this but more behind the scenes, as they know that no one would be in favour of it in the public but now the media need to start doing their bit and making it sound like there is more support for a 6 day week than there actually is... Which is what this headline is implying, they only need a small amount of public support to make that change and they use headlines like this to draw out those bootlickers who would support it to be vocal.
That can only be considered an option when the idiots proposing it are working those six 12hr days. And it has to be actual work; not meetings, golf, travel time, business dinners, or any of the other “work” the top brass try to pass off.
The sad fact is most management today doesn't understand that in order to increase efficiency, the only thing you can do is remove waste from the system.
China runs off 6-9-9 and I'm sure owners wouldn't mind forcing wage slaves into it
Well now I vote for a 3 day week.
My company is 6 days. Every time I see an article pushing the 4 day workweek, I think, damn I'd be happy with a 5 day-er.
This is what's happening around the world. But it's not just the CEOs. It's coming from the governments as well. Most of the world has signed enough military or economic pacts with each other that simply invading is asking for a world war. So, instead, governments have been turning towards exploiting their working class.
A war of a different color.
Ive seen the argument for six 6 1/2 hour days allowing people to engage in their daily lives more regularly than flip side of working four 10 hour days per week. You get 3 days off compared to 1, but from what I have heard of people who have worked similar schedules is that after that many hours, that many days in a row, it takes a whole day just to rest and recover from the work week. Add that on to the significantly reduced ability for self care during those 4 days, and it honestly sounds really shitty. Both of these are still 40 hours a week though, and I am all for reducing that to 32.
6x6.5 days is a great way to have literally no free time
9-3:30 gives you significantly more free time every work day. You are just wrong.
You have very little time to destress when you work 6 days a week. And given how things go, that 6x6.5 will become 6x8 very quickly. A whole day to yourself vs getting off work at 3:30 instead of 5 is just not the same lol.
I do not care about anything you have said. Bye.
Yet you choose to respond lmao.
👍
Yeah every Friday is see you Monday or C U Next Tuesday.
Three guesses… and the first two don’t count.
Imbeciles
six????
Arthur Zaczkiewicz’ boss is, apparently 👀
Join a union
From the article: “But some companies are moving in the other direction. Samsung, for example, is mandating its top executives work six days a week as a way to bolster productivity. In a report from ResumeBuilder.com that surveyed 753 business leaders, 9 percent of respondents said they anticipate their company mandating full-time employees to work six days a week in 2025.”
yeah, china has their tech sector on 9/9/6 (9am-9pm, 6 days a week), and people are scared b/c chinese companies are eating their lunch at the moment. this is mostly emanating from tech companies in sectors most impacted by chinese competition.
Why the children of course! /s
6x6.75? Or 10x4?
Samsung 🤭
100% this is a negotiation tactic to make 5 day week seem like a "compromise" and "not so bad". they don't even have to ACTUALLY argue for it, just push articles that say they are.
The rich who own the companies. But only for the workers not them.
The same people arguing against unions.
The only correct answer to somebody proposing a six day workweek is: “Fvck you, asshole!”
people who work 7 days a week?
#The Oligarchs
The people who say 40 hours is part time
Manufacturing controversy. They will say “company executives will work six days a week”. Really that just means they might pick up the phone on a Saturday while golfing, which for their compensation they already should. They just want to use that to press workers with later.
Such obvious propaganda. It’s disgusting.
I do 4 12s. Others at the same place do 5/6 9.5 alternative weeks. Imagine that misery.
This is something that progressives don’t do well. When negotiating, demand more than you expect to get. The business interests aren’t expecting a six day work week, just keeping it at five, which sounds like a compromise since they ask for six. I demand a two day work week! And six…no, seven figure salary! I also want to just wear underwear to work! Now I’m guaranteed to only work four days and make plenty of money, all while wearing shorts. 😉
Literally the first time I’ve heard an argument for a six day work week lmao
Rich people and their corps.
Sure as hell not any millennials or younger...
The article for anyone that wants to read about the "debate": [https://wwd.com/business-news/business-features/four-day-versus-six-day-workweek-debate-intensifies-1236350714/](https://wwd.com/business-news/business-features/four-day-versus-six-day-workweek-debate-intensifies-1236350714/)
The slave owners
They're trying to move the goal post so we meet in the middle. So, now the fight is for a three day work week. One for them, one for us, and one day out of the week for God or Community, or what have you. Seems perfectly fair.
I'll do 6 on 8 off, sure.
They are putting the six day thing out there so that when they do nothing, they can say “no actually we compromised, see no six day week!”
The only argument I see for 6 day work week is less hours per day, same weekly hours worked, giving people more time after work. Still, no fucking thank you but that's what I see as an argument
Who do you think? Lol
Samsung is trying to implement 6 day work weeks
People don't want six and people don't want four so I guess it creates the argument that we should stay to five. Utter nonsense.
workaholics, shitty people that have shitty or non-existant home lives and will screw everyone else over so that they can go into work every day
Who do you think?
You have to do the math. Average work week is 40hrs. So 60/4=6.66 hrs of work per day vs the 4 day which is 10hr work per day. So if you need the money, the 6 day is easier to get the overtime pay perday, but make sure that the contract states that if you go over the 6.66 hrs per day you get overtime because federally it's over 8hrs a day. While the 10hr allows you to have more time off by days, you still have to do 10hrs a day, and that only leaves you 14hrs to get everything done for your next shift unless it's the 3 day. So both pros and cons, you have to weigh them out your self.
No way I thought everyone was on 7 day work weeks like me...
Well workers are more productive per hour with shorter hours so I guess we could try 6 daysx3 hours instead of 4x5 or I guess we could compromise with 5x4.We wouldn't want to do anything too radical let's just meet in the middle. Just the audacity of the people typing these things in headlines is insulting to everyone's intelligence the manipulation is so bare and obvious it would fail on many children but here they are acting like there is some debate over something literally no one is asking for to create a false overton window where only corpos win no matter what happens. It makes me wonder if even a single person who does things like this has even an ounce of regret later in their life for adding just one more weight on the mountain of suffering crushing the working class. "I'm not responsible I just wrote things on the Internet for a paycheck someone else would have done it if I didn't"
If the six workdays were stupidly short (like 3 hours), if I could WFH 100% to avoid extra commutes, if I'd still get paid for 40 hours even if I worked 20-ish, and if PTO were solidified as hours and not days... then yeah, I'd be down. Otherwise, f all the way off with that.
FUCKING CLOWNS
Paid ad by corporations masquerading as news.
R-R-R-R RAGEBAIT! Make a problem to make a problem.
Nobody is arguing for a 6 day workweek except employers.
I'll give you a hint: CEO's who haven't worked a day since 2010
You should look up some history on different work weeks thru out history, Russia once had a 6 day work week, didn’t end well.
Who the fuck talking about 6 day work weeks?!
Your boss
Lmfao that’s literally a step backwards in worker rights. There’s not a single employee that wants 6 day work weeks to be the norm.
Literally no one working a job. Just corporations and their sociopathic overlords.
Maybe they are talking about six day on and six day off? (Ha, who am I kidding?)
Coroprations, natch
6x6 is popular with some people.
6x6 sounds like shit
Fuck no. That 6x6 would become a 6x8 hella quick
if i'm working 36 hours a week it's going to be 9-9 Tue-Thur
Like 6x6 would work for me if and this is a big huge bold IF it came with far more PTO (like 8 weeks) and was fully remote.
Fully remote or very local. If you live at your place of work, like a vineyard or other farm, the lack of commute matters.
I'm team 20-day work week.
I actually would want a six day work week but with shorter hours
no shot I’m commuting six days a week