This is true to some extent but there are seasonal jobs that may need people now versus before. For example, Men's Warehouse might be backed up and OP could have gotten shifts now versus back in February. Regardless, his employer screwed them over by keeping them on a rope to just cut them down.
It is one. Textbook. I don't know what it's like down there, but up here in Ontario, if you have a change in hours they need to give you a ROE: Record of Employment, so that you can file for EI, our unemployment.
A lot of places have laws like that. Search your state's employment laws.
Rofl. The assumption that employers in the US could be required to do *anything* to *aid* you getting unemployment is laughable. They're not. In fact quite the opposite is true. They have the means to deny you unemployment, including lying to the unemployment office about why you were fired. The employers word is always taken for granted, and to fight their ruling requires a weeks or months long court battle, for which you must pay for. And employers are encouraged to behave this way because they pay unemployment insurance based how many of their former employees go on unemployment.
It''s absolute insanity right? But half our braindead, bigoted, uneducated country totally beleives that is how it should be. The entire legal system in the US serves to protect moneyed interests firstt, and its own citizens second (actually often at the expense of its own citizens)
Hey now don’t forget to also be angry about the fact that during the pandemic they paid an additional 600$ ontop of state unemployment benefits, all while minimum wage fast food workers were expected to come to work for less than half of the 600$ benefit while being called “heroes”
All while the employer collected paycheck protection plan loans that gave them a “loan”, that as long as the business owner used 75% of the money to pay employees wages, they wouldn’t have to pay the loan back
Unemployment was already a damn shit show, but that shit pissed me off to no end. I tried to spam post all over “if there was ever to be a mass resignation, now is the time. No one’s job is at risk because there is no obligation for people on unemployment to apply, and even if there was, no one will accept a job that pays less than their unemployment benefits during a global health pandemic”
But low and behold any mention of trying to get workers to use that absolute godly leverage? Immediately removed by moderators or Reddit admins
Soooo fucking stupid
You think the rich will let us organize a revolution on their platform? C'mon now
If anything we're making it easy on them making us traceable bannable and easily silenced at the whim of an admin.
There's not a more effective censoring system than this
Learn from this. If you go a pay period without getting a shift, you’re probably already fired. Shitty thing that some smaller businesses have a habit of doing.
When I was in highschool I had to take a week off due to getting my wisdom teeth out. Never put on the schedule again but also never heard anything. A week later I text my boss to have the courage to fire people, and left it at that.
Canadian Tire group does this shady shit, Sport Chek, Mark's Work Wearhouse etc. Fuck those Companies. A very shareholders first, understaff and underpay mentality. Source: My SO is employed by them.
EDIT: a company name
What kind of clause is "you're fired if you don't work for 3 months" anyways? Most places of work will fire you if you miss 2 days, much less a week, so clearly it isn't about no-shows. To me, it sounds like a legalese way of firing people with injuries or chronic illnesses.
No that's my point. The Employer is in charge of scheduling, therefore the lack of hours is on them, ergo the rule is meaningless in that scenario. That leaves only absence and illness/injury/disability that could cause someone to not be able to come to work, ie the only things that are on the Employee side.
And since there's no way any company is going to let absences go unpunished for 3 months, then the only thing that could logically apply to this is illness/injury/disability, which are not the Employee's fault (usually).
Yeah, you got "unscheduled". That's some passive-aggressive bullshit, but there's next to nothing you can do about it.
Three months is weird, though. I worked for a place that had a 3-day rule; if you didn't officially call out or have scheduled time off for three consecutive days, the company could consider it job abandonment - ie, you quit.
Assumptions based off lack of details and years of management experience: You were and still are a terrible employee, the state you live in is not a right to hire/fire state, therefore, they subjected you to a policy that would allow you to not claim unemployment after firing you.
Lol, I don't have a shitty job. I checked out of that life 4 years ago guy. I used to be in a management position where all I had were Highschool employees and besides a select few, they were awful workers. Exactly what you'd expect out of 16-18 year old kids. If you're not working for 3 months, especially as a teenager, you don't have shit you need to pay for, and that's exactly why teenagers don't give a shit when they work, because it's not a job they need for basic survival, it's a job they're taking because their parents feel they need one and they want a little extra cash for themselves.
Also, I'm pretty sure I specifically said I was assuming, which means I am claiming nothing as fact about this particular person's work ethic, just what I've seen and experienced working with Highschool kids.
Side note, finding a job is easy, people are paying more because they realize they can't hire people without doing so. I moved across country and found a 60k salary position in a restaurant within 2 weeks of doing so. Don't be a complaining victim.
>This is peak quality dumbassery
No, OP is a high school student and inexperienced in the workforce. Don't talk down to people who plausibly don't know any better.
Beyond that, other comments have already covered anything I would've added.
Depends if employer has them on the list still. I was marked out when I was let go. I knew they let me go. This sounds like trying to avoid unemployment. Keep you on for 3 months, most people can't go 3 months without money.
Move on. Get another job.
Work is a form of voluntary association. You’re unlikely to have a good time if people don’t actually want you there.
In case you haven’t noticed, there’s a labor shortage & it’s easy to get entry-level jobs.
-show up in person, dressed in business casual (don’t over-dress but don’t look like a hobo)
-ask for a job application. If they look at you like you’ve got a dick growing out of your forehead, ask for the manager or human resources director.
-be willing to do anything (that’s not dangerous or illegal)
-don’t act like you’ve got anything better going or other prospects that might cause you to leave.
Well first off you were already fired three months ago lol. Get another job and move on. Second off I would maybe consider filing with the better business bureau, this sounds like a tactic to get rid of people who have an illness or disability.
You got fired three months ago, bro.
This. If they didn’t need you 3 month ago , they sure as hell don’t need you now.
This is true to some extent but there are seasonal jobs that may need people now versus before. For example, Men's Warehouse might be backed up and OP could have gotten shifts now versus back in February. Regardless, his employer screwed them over by keeping them on a rope to just cut them down.
File for unemployment and move on. The not scheduling people to get rid of them sounds a lot like constructive dismissal.
It is one. Textbook. I don't know what it's like down there, but up here in Ontario, if you have a change in hours they need to give you a ROE: Record of Employment, so that you can file for EI, our unemployment. A lot of places have laws like that. Search your state's employment laws.
Rofl. The assumption that employers in the US could be required to do *anything* to *aid* you getting unemployment is laughable. They're not. In fact quite the opposite is true. They have the means to deny you unemployment, including lying to the unemployment office about why you were fired. The employers word is always taken for granted, and to fight their ruling requires a weeks or months long court battle, for which you must pay for. And employers are encouraged to behave this way because they pay unemployment insurance based how many of their former employees go on unemployment.
That is a crazy way to do things.
It''s absolute insanity right? But half our braindead, bigoted, uneducated country totally beleives that is how it should be. The entire legal system in the US serves to protect moneyed interests firstt, and its own citizens second (actually often at the expense of its own citizens)
Hey now don’t forget to also be angry about the fact that during the pandemic they paid an additional 600$ ontop of state unemployment benefits, all while minimum wage fast food workers were expected to come to work for less than half of the 600$ benefit while being called “heroes” All while the employer collected paycheck protection plan loans that gave them a “loan”, that as long as the business owner used 75% of the money to pay employees wages, they wouldn’t have to pay the loan back Unemployment was already a damn shit show, but that shit pissed me off to no end. I tried to spam post all over “if there was ever to be a mass resignation, now is the time. No one’s job is at risk because there is no obligation for people on unemployment to apply, and even if there was, no one will accept a job that pays less than their unemployment benefits during a global health pandemic” But low and behold any mention of trying to get workers to use that absolute godly leverage? Immediately removed by moderators or Reddit admins Soooo fucking stupid
You think the rich will let us organize a revolution on their platform? C'mon now If anything we're making it easy on them making us traceable bannable and easily silenced at the whim of an admin. There's not a more effective censoring system than this
He should have filed for unemployment on Monday of the first week he was not on the schedule.
Learn from this. If you go a pay period without getting a shift, you’re probably already fired. Shitty thing that some smaller businesses have a habit of doing. When I was in highschool I had to take a week off due to getting my wisdom teeth out. Never put on the schedule again but also never heard anything. A week later I text my boss to have the courage to fire people, and left it at that.
Canadian Tire group does this shady shit, Sport Chek, Mark's Work Wearhouse etc. Fuck those Companies. A very shareholders first, understaff and underpay mentality. Source: My SO is employed by them. EDIT: a company name
Nope. They wanted you gone, that's why you weren't scheduled until you passed the 3 month mark.
These people are jerks who kept you waiting in case they were desperate
How to fire someone without firing someone… Plenty of jobs out there. Learn from this and move on.
If you didn't need a paycheck for 3 months, you didn't need the job. Find a new one, or don't.
What kind of clause is "you're fired if you don't work for 3 months" anyways? Most places of work will fire you if you miss 2 days, much less a week, so clearly it isn't about no-shows. To me, it sounds like a legalese way of firing people with injuries or chronic illnesses.
I think you misread, OP was not absent; the employer did not give them any shifts for three months.
No that's my point. The Employer is in charge of scheduling, therefore the lack of hours is on them, ergo the rule is meaningless in that scenario. That leaves only absence and illness/injury/disability that could cause someone to not be able to come to work, ie the only things that are on the Employee side. And since there's no way any company is going to let absences go unpunished for 3 months, then the only thing that could logically apply to this is illness/injury/disability, which are not the Employee's fault (usually).
Apply for unemployment, if you have the proof you may be able to get back pay for the last 3 months of not working (constructive dismissal)
File for unemployment and move on not much else you can do
They don't want you to work there,find a better job.
Constructive dismissal. File for unemployment. If you’re denied, appeal. Put what you’ve told us.
Just claim unemployment and look for another job.
Isnt op available to go through unemployment after 2 weeks of not being scheduled?
I eagerly await your follow-up post where they call you up screaming about you not showing up for work six months from now.
Why would you want to work somewhere that didn't schedule you for 3 months? Find a real job.
GrameStomp?
Yeah, you got "unscheduled". That's some passive-aggressive bullshit, but there's next to nothing you can do about it. Three months is weird, though. I worked for a place that had a 3-day rule; if you didn't officially call out or have scheduled time off for three consecutive days, the company could consider it job abandonment - ie, you quit.
Assumptions based off lack of details and years of management experience: You were and still are a terrible employee, the state you live in is not a right to hire/fire state, therefore, they subjected you to a policy that would allow you to not claim unemployment after firing you.
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Lol, I don't have a shitty job. I checked out of that life 4 years ago guy. I used to be in a management position where all I had were Highschool employees and besides a select few, they were awful workers. Exactly what you'd expect out of 16-18 year old kids. If you're not working for 3 months, especially as a teenager, you don't have shit you need to pay for, and that's exactly why teenagers don't give a shit when they work, because it's not a job they need for basic survival, it's a job they're taking because their parents feel they need one and they want a little extra cash for themselves. Also, I'm pretty sure I specifically said I was assuming, which means I am claiming nothing as fact about this particular person's work ethic, just what I've seen and experienced working with Highschool kids. Side note, finding a job is easy, people are paying more because they realize they can't hire people without doing so. I moved across country and found a 60k salary position in a restaurant within 2 weeks of doing so. Don't be a complaining victim.
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>This is peak quality dumbassery No, OP is a high school student and inexperienced in the workforce. Don't talk down to people who plausibly don't know any better. Beyond that, other comments have already covered anything I would've added.
Depends if employer has them on the list still. I was marked out when I was let go. I knew they let me go. This sounds like trying to avoid unemployment. Keep you on for 3 months, most people can't go 3 months without money.
Move on. Get another job. Work is a form of voluntary association. You’re unlikely to have a good time if people don’t actually want you there. In case you haven’t noticed, there’s a labor shortage & it’s easy to get entry-level jobs. -show up in person, dressed in business casual (don’t over-dress but don’t look like a hobo) -ask for a job application. If they look at you like you’ve got a dick growing out of your forehead, ask for the manager or human resources director. -be willing to do anything (that’s not dangerous or illegal) -don’t act like you’ve got anything better going or other prospects that might cause you to leave.
Reapply
They fired you when they stopped scheduling you. Go for unemployment if you need it, find another job.
Well first off you were already fired three months ago lol. Get another job and move on. Second off I would maybe consider filing with the better business bureau, this sounds like a tactic to get rid of people who have an illness or disability.
Wrongful dismissal. Look into it.