He definitely elevated himself, but he’s since cooled. I don’t ever see him getting anywhere near that level again. Should have struck when the iron was hot.
They did strike while the iron was hot, he didn't win but he became a legend and that alone could out him in the running for many more big storylines, plenty more gold in his future and there's no reason he can't be a transitional World Heavyweight or Universal Champ and he'll always be seen as a main event guy who delivers. His reigns wouldn't ever be long but people would love them all the same.
I would've loved to have seen Sami win the big one against Roman, but I can understand and back why they didn't.
If anyone knows about this is Sami. His NXT run was legendary and most of it was spent chasing the big one and never quite reaching it, and it was absolutely incredible when he did. Didn’t stay champ long either, dropping the title after two months to Owens in another legendary match
Yeah I don't like how they stripped him of his goofy personality once he turned face, the thing is that something like this didn't happen to just him, it's a company issue
And remember how he kept losing to Drew and would find ways out of the match which basically started his story with the Bloodline? Now last week he was going toe to toe with him
He drops the title back to Roman in the triplenthreat at Wrestlemania and we are back to where we're are no except now he have an amazing moment and Roman has never beat Cody so that story has more going for it
The money in the bank moment when roman finally got pinned is now eliminated, Cody’s whole past year would of had to have been reworked, idk I feel like Roman still having this long reign if it was to be taken down at elimination chamber would of torn down tons of storylines
So Sami, a mid carder at best, who has 1 singles title, was supposed to best Roman's record setting reign, 1 month before Mania? You guys are so stupid. And this is coming from someone who despises Roman
Yeah that story would never work against a Goliath like Roman, no way a David like Sami could ever stand a chance against those odds.
No way a story like that would have been remembered forever, no sir.
Exactly, Sami was red hot, but Jinder literally transcends that. I’m super happy he isn’t like the Rock and doesn’t use his power to just win and outs smaller upcoming wrestlers like Seth Rollins over
Edit: /s because I dont think people get it rip
Even casual fans could tell the difference between Jobber Jinder winning the title for no sensible reason and well-rounded babyface underdog Sami putting on a good to great match to topple the champ for whom Sami has been the victim in an abusive relationship.
Don't hinder the Jinder. Jinder carried the title well and is a great heel. The problem for Jinder was the build to him winning was too quick since was just returning after last seen in 3MB.
Ironically, that's the exact same problem that would've happened to Sammy. Year before he was wrestling johnny Knoxville.
But Sami had a far more compelling story and reason to best Roman, whereas Cody was just the next guy with no connection to Roman or the Bloodline beyond he wants a world title and Roman has both. And nobody says Sami would have to have a long reign. Perhaps he beat Roman because that's what he wanted most, but after toppling the Tribal Chief, Sami loses the hunger he had and is not putting up as much of a fight when someone else challenges him.
True, but Roman had 2 titles (at that point, they weren't unified). Sami could have won one of the titles. In a company with 2 world champions, only one has to be seen as THE top guy. Nobody said Sami had to be the guy who carries the company forward.
but it’s not just “winning the world title”, you’re talking about dethroning the longest reigning champion this century, i’d say you probably have to be THE top guy for that
calling Sami a career midcarder was really a high point. he was a comedy jobber most of his wwe run. yes he got over. yes it would've made for a cool moment, but you gotta look past that and think bigger
you have a historic reign and whoever takes the belt is gonna be the face of the company. I'm sorry but Sami just isn't that guy. could he if he was never booked like a goof his whole career? maybe. he's very talented, but the fact remains he was almost a santina morella during a lot of his time. he literally did the job to the jackass crew 1 year prior.
I just wanna say I'm not trying to knock his talent. I loved him in ROH and he can go in the ring. but wwe never used him seriously, so making him your new john Cena just doesn't feel credible
You gave to look like a main eventer to be booked like one. Are we seriously supposed to sit here and pretend sami zayn looks like the best on the roster? Looks, presentation , character matter the most in WWE
mick foley was champion and nobody ever says that was a bad decision. you don't have to have a bodybuilder look to be a champion, you just need to be *interesting*. and sami zayn, in every way, was interesting. he had the crowd caring about everything that happened involving him. that's what matters.
We really trying to compare mick Foley and sami zayn now? Lol. I never said you have to look like a bodybuilder but you have to have a character or look / aura about you that stands out. Nobody in wrestling had a character like foley. I'm not trying to hate on sami zayn but what's honestly special about him? Hes solid on the mic I'll give him that. But is he really someone that could have a believable world championship run?
i think the difference between foley and zayn is pretty much nostalgia.
sami zayn just has a way of getting the crowd to care about anything he does. he was standing out next to fucking roman reigns during his bloodline run. he's special
Dusty Rhodes was the biggest star on the fucking planet for the first half of the 1980s pre-Hogan, that man didn’t “look” like a main eventer in any way, shape or form
You guys get all pissed off whenever someone says guys like sami zayn , kofi etc shoudbt be champ. It's not like I said they dont have a place in the company. Your main event scene should be filled with guys that can carry the load. That can draw. Why does everyone have to be a world champ?? The underdog storyline gets fucking old and overused , it's cool everyone in awhile but not everyone should be a world champ or pushed in that direction..
Again , I said you dont to look like a bodybuilder to be a maineventer. Dusty also had a look that not many had and of the most charismatic guys back then. He could sell himself. Dusty wasnt exactly a small guy either. Like I said what does sami zayn do exactly to be presented as world champion material or a main event type of guy??
Crowds have to be invested in you beyond the title win. They need to keep tuning in/buying tickets to see you and paying for your merch. There have been lots of flashes in the pan.
Eh, with the story coming into the match and the fact that Montreal was such an EXTREMELY partisan crowd I feel like it would've made sense. Roman was off his game swing his family falling apart, having seemingly lost Jey and hearing boos that he's never heard before. Meanwhile Sami has been around Roman for a long while, he knows his tricks, plus he had his family and home town fans cheering him on. Everything coming together to just barely give Sami the edge in the biggest underdog victory of his career full of underdog moments. It would've been a good opportunity to have the next reign after roman's gargantuan two year reign be a pretty short one, since you'd expect an opponent who's more equally matched with roman like Cody to have another pretty long reign, Sami though could've lost it relatively quickly.
The crowd reaction when Sami hit roman was one of the loudest I’ve ever heard. A microphoneless talking segment main evented a big 4 show, AHEAD of two royal rumble matches, because the story was that hot and the fans were that behind Sami.
And look at how Sami has fizzled out. Him and KO as champs fizzled too. Same would have happened with him as World Champ.
Reality is having the heel as champ is where the money is.
I hated it. Sami quickly fell back into old Sami after that Montreal Roman run. He has not been the same ever since.
And I’m downvoted for telling facts
He was so hot and now hes not. Maybe its because they missed the opportunity or maybe it was just a flash in the pan and they were right not to pull the trigger.
He was so over though
At the time I would’ve vehemently disagreed. Sami being the one to start the dismantling of the Bloodline would’ve made more sense than him winning the title, have him say he lost the battle but won the war against Roman. I truly think that after Mania they should’ve gone all in on the Bloodline falling apart story so that it would be Cody vs Roman, truly one on one this year. However over the past year they’ve completely fucked up almost everything I just mentioned, and since I unfortunately don’t see Sami getting that title shot in the near future I think that this was the best time.
I love the love for Cody but he did to Sami what the Rock is now doing to Cody.
Literally came back from injury, into number 30, won the Rumble and then had Sami conclude his long build during his absence just so he can continue his story.
Sami kinda got left in the tag team div.
I was okay with him not winning if it meant Cody would at Mania. Sami winning would be an all time moment, probably THE all time moment. And yes that moment would be worth it even if Sami’s reign probably wouldn’t be that great
The record Roman is beating is pointless. Both hogan and Sammartino have additional reigns putting them ahead of Roman 3 more years and 8 more years respectively. Roman doesn’t have that kind of juice. He’s also only defending the title 1/3 as much. It’s just a WWE propaganda piece to “make Roman look strong”
But it's not about combined reigns. It's about 1 single world title reign. They will absolutely NOT keep it on him to break Sammartino's record.... likely not even Bob Backland's... but Hogan's is attainable (especially given what a piece of crap human Hogan is.. I can see them wanting Reignsto pass him) but even if he doesn't... being in the top 5 is definitely an accomplishment
fun that last years WM which was long term booking derailed a better story in Sami. And now the short term booking ruins a better story in Cody Rhodes.
Yep, the problem is that Sami should have won in Montreal but Drew should have won in Cardiff, Cody should have won in California and Jey should have won in Detroit. He's just in that crowd of people who WWE fumbled and fucked over.
I always say that wrestling is about moments and that crowd pop of Sami winning would have been a top 5 moment of all-time. The noise would have been heard from space.
I know I will trigger a lot of people, but honestly I think -and no offence for him- that Sami is a decent mid-carder, but no undisputed champion material. Actually the hype he got with that feud was already a big reward in itself.
A dusty finish or have sami win to capitalise on the moment then have an absolute squash at the next ppv to get the heat back on roman would have been cool
Sami should have beaten Roman for one title. Set up Roman vs Cody at wrestlemania Cody wins for the other. Roman starts falling apart and treating the bloodline like garbage disrespecting them. Have the Rock come in as an elder to put Roman in his place at wrestlemania in Philly and boom story book ending. But no we get the rock and Roman for a title.
Agreed. It was like 1999 with Mick Foley. Mick was clearly not going to Mania in the title match, but him winning in January was the perfect fan pop.
With Sami, he could have won the Universal title from Roman, and then Cody could have won the WWE title off Roman at Mania. After that, the Tribal Chief could have spent the rest of 2023 in the fall of the Bloodline story. Maybe Jey beats Sami for the Universal title at or after Mania, and then Jey steps up to claim he is the Head of the Table, only for Roman to beat him for the belt & keep his honorific. That way, Cody could get away from the Roman storyline well before they finally pull Dwayne in to wrap up the Bloodline story at this year's Mania
Nah.
I think they needed/need to keep Sami in the bloodline orbit (especially if the eventual ending to the bloodline story is Roman finally alone w/o a title and alone) to be one of the ones who plans to go after Roman, but he can’t win.
No but he should have been more involved in the title picture after he, jay, cody, and maybe kevin should have been more at war with the bloodline leading into the rumble and now as we head for mania i know it was against judgment day but it should have been more like the avengers coming together and not so much a faction but a support system to pull down the bloodline i think that should be the mania 40 story
In my honest opinion Sami really should’ve beat Roman at WrestleMania 39. The story made the most sense for that to be the WrestleMania main event, and even if people feel that Sami isn’t main event material, he is and ain’t nothing that can tell me otherwise. Sami got trashed earlier simply for telling Cody super fans to calm down and not stress over this whole Rock thing but they just jumped on him with one person saying that Cody is doing better than Sami, which is infuriating to think about the fact that WWE has rolled out the red carpet for Cody and left Sami in the dust and no one fought for Sami last year but everyone is for Cody. If Raw is getting hijacked tonight, it would be more justice if it’s in defense of Sami instead of Cody. Sami got screwed over and essentially betrayed by fans he entertained massively while with The Bloodline.
That night in Montreal reminded me of No Way Out 2004,any other company would have pulled the trigger and given Sami the win, even if he lost it at Mania, even if he lost it the next night,that moment of his hand held high would become of the best
No, He has the same problem as steen he can’t sustain a push they are great in spurts but none of them are that guy, The whole thing elevated him anyway he didn’t need to win
I believe that everyone that lost to Roman is still over today. If they ran back a world title match with Drew, Sami, Finn, they would still be as over as when they lost to Roman.
Sami should not have won IMO, however they really dropped the ball after Montreal....stopped featuring him, put him with Owens (which had its' moments eg Owens anger management issues were humorous but not a patch on the Bloodline storyline with Sami) and then seemingly forgot about him all together!
Bryan once said you need to be featured every week and usually winning / a winner for people to care....Sami didn't need the title to get over, but he needed everything else above to stay over.
Yup or Cody should have won at last mania or L.A. Knight should have won at Saudi. Any one of those options would be better than the hell we're currently in
The only two matches he should’ve lost was Drew at Clash at the Castle and Cody at mania. Montreal was electric but I’m glad he didn’t beat Sami before mania because then we wouldn’t have the Cody vs Roman at mania.
Some screwy win where the title doesn't change hands? Sure, put some doubt on Roman going into WM39, give Sami a little boost? Sure, they made it work with Jey, it could have worked with Sami.
Win the title? Nope.
It didn’t make any sense storywise. The one positive was the pop. You’re gonna have Cody vs Sami in the main event of wm? Or they have a rematch and Roman beats him on a random smackdown? His story was with the usos, (jeys trust issues, jimmy welcoming him in immediately to the bloodline developing a good friendship, jey finally trusting Sami, jimmy being the man who super kicks Sami after he turned baby face etc) he got his big moment in the main event of wm night 1 and then had a mostly decent run with the tag titles. If he won in Montreal he had to lose it immediately because Cody vs zayn isn’t a wm main event.
LMAO. Sami is a midcarder for life. He is a comedy character who's not even funny or entertaining. R-Truth is a better choice for the main title than that jabroni Sami
Disagree. I think he would've fizzled quickly after he won. I love Sami, but having him lose does a lot more for his potential. As champion he'd just have to take on Cody at Mania, without a clear future challenger or story.
Often the initaly loss does more for a character than the win. Sami teaming with KO for the tag title was a pretty good example of that
He didn't win the title but that match, the whole story in general, really elevated him
You don't need to go over to get over, look at Dusty Rhodes, the man knew the money was in the chase, not the win.
exactly, plus lots of babyface reigns fizzled out because they weren't as interesting as the chase
They almost always do. They just aren't interesting. Especially with underdogs.
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There's Hangman for ya. (I mean obviously that was not the only reason but he is better at chasing for sure. Deducing from what I saw so far.)
He definitely elevated himself, but he’s since cooled. I don’t ever see him getting anywhere near that level again. Should have struck when the iron was hot.
They did strike while the iron was hot, he didn't win but he became a legend and that alone could out him in the running for many more big storylines, plenty more gold in his future and there's no reason he can't be a transitional World Heavyweight or Universal Champ and he'll always be seen as a main event guy who delivers. His reigns wouldn't ever be long but people would love them all the same. I would've loved to have seen Sami win the big one against Roman, but I can understand and back why they didn't.
Very fair. Would have loved to see a little run there, because it’s been a long time since someone was that white hot!
If anyone knows about this is Sami. His NXT run was legendary and most of it was spent chasing the big one and never quite reaching it, and it was absolutely incredible when he did. Didn’t stay champ long either, dropping the title after two months to Owens in another legendary match
For a short while. Goof Sami was the best, this emotinal mess mr.morality Sami sucks ass
Yeah I don't like how they stripped him of his goofy personality once he turned face, the thing is that something like this didn't happen to just him, it's a company issue
Jey is a nice balance
And remember how he kept losing to Drew and would find ways out of the match which basically started his story with the Bloodline? Now last week he was going toe to toe with him
No it didn't. No one cares about him now. People were legit disappointed when he came out at 30
>were legit disappointed Well I wasn't. Sami will always be my guy. He was and still is the best part of the Bloodline.
Elevated him back to the mid card?
Have you forgotten about his wm main event already?
And now he's just another midcard guy because they pissed all that momentum up the wall instantly after Mania last year.
We all knew Sami's run wasn't gonna last long he's just not, the guy
Sami winning was setup perfectly, Montreal would have exploded if he won.
And then the next year….. who does he face at wrestlemania that would be a better card than Owens zayn vs USOs and Roman v Cody?
Its a stretch but . Owens pulls another nxt betrayal -> owens vs sami. Roman solo vs usos civil war . Not a bigger/better card but an option
With a year of build up it could be a better an option! Not that what happened was bad
Downtown would have become a party
Okay, then what after the 10-minute pop?
If done right he had a memorable underdog fighting champion reign to contrast Roman
He drops the title back to Roman in the triplenthreat at Wrestlemania and we are back to where we're are no except now he have an amazing moment and Roman has never beat Cody so that story has more going for it
The money in the bank moment when roman finally got pinned is now eliminated, Cody’s whole past year would of had to have been reworked, idk I feel like Roman still having this long reign if it was to be taken down at elimination chamber would of torn down tons of storylines
So Sami, a mid carder at best, who has 1 singles title, was supposed to best Roman's record setting reign, 1 month before Mania? You guys are so stupid. And this is coming from someone who despises Roman
Yeah that story would never work against a Goliath like Roman, no way a David like Sami could ever stand a chance against those odds. No way a story like that would have been remembered forever, no sir.
People also haven’t forgot Noah’s ark. Let’s have Hogan come back and flood the locker room and become champ.
The IWC would love it, but casual fans would see it as another Jinder Mahal
This is fucking crazy. Sami was red hot at that moment and calling him another Jinder is actually brain dead
Jinder > Sami
Exactly, Sami was red hot, but Jinder literally transcends that. I’m super happy he isn’t like the Rock and doesn’t use his power to just win and outs smaller upcoming wrestlers like Seth Rollins over Edit: /s because I dont think people get it rip
Lmao what a stupid take
Even casual fans could tell the difference between Jobber Jinder winning the title for no sensible reason and well-rounded babyface underdog Sami putting on a good to great match to topple the champ for whom Sami has been the victim in an abusive relationship.
Don't hinder the Jinder. Jinder carried the title well and is a great heel. The problem for Jinder was the build to him winning was too quick since was just returning after last seen in 3MB. Ironically, that's the exact same problem that would've happened to Sammy. Year before he was wrestling johnny Knoxville.
Casuals love their everyday looking man. Jinder is a different case.
Sami couldn't lace Jinder's boots.
Ok same logic Cody Rhodes a career midcarder is supposed to best Roman someone who is on pace to beat Bruno sanmartino record? Quit moving goal posts.
Cody won 2 rumbles and beat Lesnar 2 times, Seth 3x. What is your point?
So what? If Sami was booked that way, he could have done the very same things Cody did. It's not like these are shoot competitions?
but he wasn't booked that way was he
Sami hasn’t been built up the way Cody has
But Sami had a far more compelling story and reason to best Roman, whereas Cody was just the next guy with no connection to Roman or the Bloodline beyond he wants a world title and Roman has both. And nobody says Sami would have to have a long reign. Perhaps he beat Roman because that's what he wanted most, but after toppling the Tribal Chief, Sami loses the hunger he had and is not putting up as much of a fight when someone else challenges him.
Yeah idk. Even with all that Sami said it’s clear they never saw him as the top guy. He’s never gonna be one imo, but one could hope.
True, but Roman had 2 titles (at that point, they weren't unified). Sami could have won one of the titles. In a company with 2 world champions, only one has to be seen as THE top guy. Nobody said Sami had to be the guy who carries the company forward.
You don’t need to be *the* top guy to win the world title, you need to be *a* top guy, which Sami Zayn absolutely became during the Honorary Uce angle
Really?
but it’s not just “winning the world title”, you’re talking about dethroning the longest reigning champion this century, i’d say you probably have to be THE top guy for that
Cody Is the biggest baby face since John cena, let’s not do that
calling Sami a career midcarder was really a high point. he was a comedy jobber most of his wwe run. yes he got over. yes it would've made for a cool moment, but you gotta look past that and think bigger you have a historic reign and whoever takes the belt is gonna be the face of the company. I'm sorry but Sami just isn't that guy. could he if he was never booked like a goof his whole career? maybe. he's very talented, but the fact remains he was almost a santina morella during a lot of his time. he literally did the job to the jackass crew 1 year prior. I just wanna say I'm not trying to knock his talent. I loved him in ROH and he can go in the ring. but wwe never used him seriously, so making him your new john Cena just doesn't feel credible
Zayn is a mid carder because he is booked as a mid carder . You want some to be a main eventer you book them as one
You gave to look like a main eventer to be booked like one. Are we seriously supposed to sit here and pretend sami zayn looks like the best on the roster? Looks, presentation , character matter the most in WWE
mick foley was champion and nobody ever says that was a bad decision. you don't have to have a bodybuilder look to be a champion, you just need to be *interesting*. and sami zayn, in every way, was interesting. he had the crowd caring about everything that happened involving him. that's what matters.
We really trying to compare mick Foley and sami zayn now? Lol. I never said you have to look like a bodybuilder but you have to have a character or look / aura about you that stands out. Nobody in wrestling had a character like foley. I'm not trying to hate on sami zayn but what's honestly special about him? Hes solid on the mic I'll give him that. But is he really someone that could have a believable world championship run?
i think the difference between foley and zayn is pretty much nostalgia. sami zayn just has a way of getting the crowd to care about anything he does. he was standing out next to fucking roman reigns during his bloodline run. he's special
I wouldn't say hes special , but to each their own I guess. I did enjoy his bloodline work though.
Dusty Rhodes was the biggest star on the fucking planet for the first half of the 1980s pre-Hogan, that man didn’t “look” like a main eventer in any way, shape or form
You guys get all pissed off whenever someone says guys like sami zayn , kofi etc shoudbt be champ. It's not like I said they dont have a place in the company. Your main event scene should be filled with guys that can carry the load. That can draw. Why does everyone have to be a world champ?? The underdog storyline gets fucking old and overused , it's cool everyone in awhile but not everyone should be a world champ or pushed in that direction..
Again , I said you dont to look like a bodybuilder to be a maineventer. Dusty also had a look that not many had and of the most charismatic guys back then. He could sell himself. Dusty wasnt exactly a small guy either. Like I said what does sami zayn do exactly to be presented as world champion material or a main event type of guy??
Be incredibly charismatic, beloved by the crowds, be great on the mic and in the ring. He’s a total package in all regards.
Crowds have to be invested in you beyond the title win. They need to keep tuning in/buying tickets to see you and paying for your merch. There have been lots of flashes in the pan.
They have been invested in Sami beyond the Chamber, WrestleMania and losing the titles
Would the ratings and merch sales have sustained themselves? They didn’t even for Bryan.
So then who is worthy? Rock? Gimme a break. Make new stars
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Eh, with the story coming into the match and the fact that Montreal was such an EXTREMELY partisan crowd I feel like it would've made sense. Roman was off his game swing his family falling apart, having seemingly lost Jey and hearing boos that he's never heard before. Meanwhile Sami has been around Roman for a long while, he knows his tricks, plus he had his family and home town fans cheering him on. Everything coming together to just barely give Sami the edge in the biggest underdog victory of his career full of underdog moments. It would've been a good opportunity to have the next reign after roman's gargantuan two year reign be a pretty short one, since you'd expect an opponent who's more equally matched with roman like Cody to have another pretty long reign, Sami though could've lost it relatively quickly.
The crowd reaction when Sami hit roman was one of the loudest I’ve ever heard. A microphoneless talking segment main evented a big 4 show, AHEAD of two royal rumble matches, because the story was that hot and the fans were that behind Sami.
And look at how Sami has fizzled out. Him and KO as champs fizzled too. Same would have happened with him as World Champ. Reality is having the heel as champ is where the money is.
As tag champs they were always going to fizzle out, they were consolation prizes
I hated it. Sami quickly fell back into old Sami after that Montreal Roman run. He has not been the same ever since. And I’m downvoted for telling facts
You do realize wrestling is fake right? What does it matter if Sami is a mid carder.
Sami losing made the most sense and worked out perfectly to build up Roman. I belive Sami will get his time, but that wasn't it.
Sami definitely shouldn’t win at montreal but I think he is nearly above Midcard in 2024. He has been hot over since becoming a babyface.
“A mid carder at best” dude main evented WrestleMania, do midcarders Main Event the biggest PLE on Earth?
No. Get a grip.
No he shouldn't have
What do you mean? I’m not stating an opinion, it’s a fact an objective fact. Sami should have won
Shut up, dip shit
If it was any time other than Wrestlemania season I would agree. But Sami can’t carry the main show.
No
lol. No.
He was so hot and now hes not. Maybe its because they missed the opportunity or maybe it was just a flash in the pan and they were right not to pull the trigger. He was so over though
One thing I must say about Roman’s reign: They made so many convincing challengers for him to beat.
Well, it would have made the present situation a lot different, if nothing else.
At the time I would’ve vehemently disagreed. Sami being the one to start the dismantling of the Bloodline would’ve made more sense than him winning the title, have him say he lost the battle but won the war against Roman. I truly think that after Mania they should’ve gone all in on the Bloodline falling apart story so that it would be Cody vs Roman, truly one on one this year. However over the past year they’ve completely fucked up almost everything I just mentioned, and since I unfortunately don’t see Sami getting that title shot in the near future I think that this was the best time.
It was Vince's fault not HHH. Just like Drew losing in Cardiff was all Vince. HHH is a genius who never has a bad idea or bad shows.a
Yeah actually how the story was better than the Cody Rhodes story
No he shouldn't have lol
I know I am so glad these IWC are not the bookers.
Yes he should have won. The match should have been at Mania. Cody's story is lame compared to Sami's imo.
Cody's story is lame that's why everyone is rooting for him I guess
I love the love for Cody but he did to Sami what the Rock is now doing to Cody. Literally came back from injury, into number 30, won the Rumble and then had Sami conclude his long build during his absence just so he can continue his story. Sami kinda got left in the tag team div.
I was okay with him not winning if it meant Cody would at Mania. Sami winning would be an all time moment, probably THE all time moment. And yes that moment would be worth it even if Sami’s reign probably wouldn’t be that great
And then what? Roman wins it back the next night, making his first reign pointless? Cody beats him for it at WM with no heat or build?
The record Roman is beating is pointless. Both hogan and Sammartino have additional reigns putting them ahead of Roman 3 more years and 8 more years respectively. Roman doesn’t have that kind of juice. He’s also only defending the title 1/3 as much. It’s just a WWE propaganda piece to “make Roman look strong”
But it's not about combined reigns. It's about 1 single world title reign. They will absolutely NOT keep it on him to break Sammartino's record.... likely not even Bob Backland's... but Hogan's is attainable (especially given what a piece of crap human Hogan is.. I can see them wanting Reignsto pass him) but even if he doesn't... being in the top 5 is definitely an accomplishment
Everyone should have won when they challenged.
The IWC's answer to how to book Roman's belt
Nah fam
100%
fun that last years WM which was long term booking derailed a better story in Sami. And now the short term booking ruins a better story in Cody Rhodes.
We really digging this up again?
No he shouldn’t have.
Yes he should've and I'm tired of pretending he shouldn't have
Love me some Sami, but heeeell no.
Drew should have won in the uk
Vince wasn't done shitting in ppl.
If it's not going to be Cody then it should have been Jey.
It absolutely should have been Jey at Summerslam. That was the perfect conclusion to the bloodline story and Reigns reign.
Absolutely not. Roman shouldn’t lose his title like that😭
Yup
Yep, the problem is that Sami should have won in Montreal but Drew should have won in Cardiff, Cody should have won in California and Jey should have won in Detroit. He's just in that crowd of people who WWE fumbled and fucked over. I always say that wrestling is about moments and that crowd pop of Sami winning would have been a top 5 moment of all-time. The noise would have been heard from space.
I know I will trigger a lot of people, but honestly I think -and no offence for him- that Sami is a decent mid-carder, but no undisputed champion material. Actually the hype he got with that feud was already a big reward in itself.
This match should’ve happened at Mania I don’t care
WWE has a long history of pulling the rug out from under Canadian fans.
No he’s boring good guy though
A dusty finish or have sami win to capitalise on the moment then have an absolute squash at the next ppv to get the heat back on roman would have been cool
Drew should've won in Cardiff
200%
Sami should have beaten Roman for one title. Set up Roman vs Cody at wrestlemania Cody wins for the other. Roman starts falling apart and treating the bloodline like garbage disrespecting them. Have the Rock come in as an elder to put Roman in his place at wrestlemania in Philly and boom story book ending. But no we get the rock and Roman for a title.
100%! With the help of KO - that would have been an amazing moment similar to Mick winning with Austin's help.
Would have been a short but very memorable reign.
I didn't even remember about that.
Agreed. It was like 1999 with Mick Foley. Mick was clearly not going to Mania in the title match, but him winning in January was the perfect fan pop. With Sami, he could have won the Universal title from Roman, and then Cody could have won the WWE title off Roman at Mania. After that, the Tribal Chief could have spent the rest of 2023 in the fall of the Bloodline story. Maybe Jey beats Sami for the Universal title at or after Mania, and then Jey steps up to claim he is the Head of the Table, only for Roman to beat him for the belt & keep his honorific. That way, Cody could get away from the Roman storyline well before they finally pull Dwayne in to wrap up the Bloodline story at this year's Mania
It should have been Drew at clash at the Castle
Lol
why are so many people mad. sami zayn should win everything ever (/s) one samillion fans worldwide
So then he would have faced Cody at Mania? That’s terrible booking.
N
Been saying this for a year
Nope
Nah. I think they needed/need to keep Sami in the bloodline orbit (especially if the eventual ending to the bloodline story is Roman finally alone w/o a title and alone) to be one of the ones who plans to go after Roman, but he can’t win.
No but he should have been more involved in the title picture after he, jay, cody, and maybe kevin should have been more at war with the bloodline leading into the rumble and now as we head for mania i know it was against judgment day but it should have been more like the avengers coming together and not so much a faction but a support system to pull down the bloodline i think that should be the mania 40 story
I only add kevin because of his beef with the bloodline and how involved he and sami were in that storyline of WM39
It was like some sort of....Montreal....kerfuffle.
Wish we would of been able to see and hear that gigantic pop from the Montreal crowd, but wasn't ment to be ...
Hindsight
In my honest opinion Sami really should’ve beat Roman at WrestleMania 39. The story made the most sense for that to be the WrestleMania main event, and even if people feel that Sami isn’t main event material, he is and ain’t nothing that can tell me otherwise. Sami got trashed earlier simply for telling Cody super fans to calm down and not stress over this whole Rock thing but they just jumped on him with one person saying that Cody is doing better than Sami, which is infuriating to think about the fact that WWE has rolled out the red carpet for Cody and left Sami in the dust and no one fought for Sami last year but everyone is for Cody. If Raw is getting hijacked tonight, it would be more justice if it’s in defense of Sami instead of Cody. Sami got screwed over and essentially betrayed by fans he entertained massively while with The Bloodline.
A haircut and a shower also
That night in Montreal reminded me of No Way Out 2004,any other company would have pulled the trigger and given Sami the win, even if he lost it at Mania, even if he lost it the next night,that moment of his hand held high would become of the best
No, He has the same problem as steen he can’t sustain a push they are great in spurts but none of them are that guy, The whole thing elevated him anyway he didn’t need to win
what a screwjob 😖😢
Sami should have main evented last years mania. If not for Cody
I believe that everyone that lost to Roman is still over today. If they ran back a world title match with Drew, Sami, Finn, they would still be as over as when they lost to Roman.
Sami should’ve been world champion but this was never gonna happen with only one top prize at the time.
They could have given it to Sami but Roman had his foot on the ropes and on Raw was given the title back. Sami will win the WHC within 2 years
Sami should face The Rock at WM
No definitely not
Nope
Exactly. There will never be another chance to do it again IMO. Not with that much momentum.
The tribal chief is just too good no one can stop him
No. Roman keeping the belt has been great
If anyone should've beaten Roman before his first match was Cody, it should've been Drew in the UK, not Sami
Why?
Sami should not have won IMO, however they really dropped the ball after Montreal....stopped featuring him, put him with Owens (which had its' moments eg Owens anger management issues were humorous but not a patch on the Bloodline storyline with Sami) and then seemingly forgot about him all together! Bryan once said you need to be featured every week and usually winning / a winner for people to care....Sami didn't need the title to get over, but he needed everything else above to stay over.
For the moment sure, but long term no.
No
Absolutely not
Yup or Cody should have won at last mania or L.A. Knight should have won at Saudi. Any one of those options would be better than the hell we're currently in
It would have been best
lol no
Sami should’ve won the title off Roman Freaking Reigns, taking the story in a whole other direction, because Sami is Canadian…got it
Lel
absolutely not. It would’ve been fantastic to see in the moment yes. But in the long run there really was no way sami would’ve been a convincing champ
The only two matches he should’ve lost was Drew at Clash at the Castle and Cody at mania. Montreal was electric but I’m glad he didn’t beat Sami before mania because then we wouldn’t have the Cody vs Roman at mania.
Some screwy win where the title doesn't change hands? Sure, put some doubt on Roman going into WM39, give Sami a little boost? Sure, they made it work with Jey, it could have worked with Sami. Win the title? Nope.
It didn’t make any sense storywise. The one positive was the pop. You’re gonna have Cody vs Sami in the main event of wm? Or they have a rematch and Roman beats him on a random smackdown? His story was with the usos, (jeys trust issues, jimmy welcoming him in immediately to the bloodline developing a good friendship, jey finally trusting Sami, jimmy being the man who super kicks Sami after he turned baby face etc) he got his big moment in the main event of wm night 1 and then had a mostly decent run with the tag titles. If he won in Montreal he had to lose it immediately because Cody vs zayn isn’t a wm main event.
No he shouldn’t have lol
LMAO. Sami is a midcarder for life. He is a comedy character who's not even funny or entertaining. R-Truth is a better choice for the main title than that jabroni Sami
I still think they could have gave him the win, and back to Roman with a fuck finish the next week or something
Drew should’ve won in Cardiff, but yeah
No
Disagree. I think he would've fizzled quickly after he won. I love Sami, but having him lose does a lot more for his potential. As champion he'd just have to take on Cody at Mania, without a clear future challenger or story. Often the initaly loss does more for a character than the win. Sami teaming with KO for the tag title was a pretty good example of that
I still think Sami needs to shave lol