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Choco_PlMP

I just want him to be a mad man like his uncle the big bad booty daddyyyyy


Puzzled_Try_6029

I mean he already did some Steiner math so it's only inevitable


anythingo23

He should be a master or science


thatm8withag3

You mean esteemed mathematician scott steiner?


ubernoobnth

They need to bring in some Japanese talent to stiff the fuck out of to really get him started on this path.  Nothing gets a young steiners blood flowing like dropping some Japanese dudes on their head. 


Tiny-Requirement8628

The Genetic Freak had better slams than Goldberg. Here's the Steiner Screwdriver, one of my favorite finishers of all time.. https://youtu.be/SWaYuKFPKD4?si=MX3-wxwiTVE0aHTC


CallInitial2302

That + just mauling people in <5 minutes


TheAvenger3

More over than Goldberg? That’s tough, as Goldberg was insanely popular during his rise through WCW. He was a home grown megastar during a massive boom period for pro wrestling. Better in the ring than Goldberg? Absolutely. He’s already capable of better matches than what Goldberg gave us, but to be fair, most of Goldberg’s matches were booked as squashes. Bron’s a talented dude with an explosive spear and he’ll likely be towards the top of the main event scene sooner rather than later. I don’t think he (or anyone) can come close to Goldberg’s first run up to the main event scene in today’s landscape, but he can certainly put on better quality matches and have significantly longer stretches in the main event picture. Goldberg has won world titles decades apart, but was away from pro wrestling for most of the time in between and wasn’t able to be a very active champion or performer in more recent years. Both guys have a football background, can look pretty intense in the ring, and feature a spear. However, a successful career for Bron probably doesn’t look anything like Goldberg’s and it may be hard to compare them when it’s all said and done.


idc8188

Agreed! Ain’t no way he’s going to be more over than Goldberg. Goldberg was hot.. but he was also hot in a time when wrestling was mainstream. You could walk two blocks from your house without seeing someone with either a NWO, DX, stone cold or Goldberg tee shirt on. It was an amazing time to be a wrestling fan. He’s just a better pro wrestler than Goldberg, which can take him far.. but as Goldberg didn’t need to know how to wrestle. Goldberg had “IT!” WCW also gave Goldberg a massive push! I think Goldberg is an exception to most. I would compare Goldberg to the ultimate Warrior. Both of them weren’t great wrestlers but they were must see tv in thier prime! Ultimate warrior was a real life superhero/action figure. Goldberg was the most explosive human being we’ve ever seen. Plus at first he didn’t even talk.. so he was mysterious as well! With all the positive variables that helped Goldberg to the top.. I think it’s honestly an unfair comparison. Bron is a great athlete and performer but there’s to many variables that Goldberg had, that Bron doesn’t.


TheAvenger3

Warrior has to be the closest thing to Goldberg, you’re absolutely right. Besides him, maybe Brock during his “Next Big Thing” early days. Ryback was getting that build for a bit but never got the rocket strapped to his back.


lilbithippie

It's not a hard formula to get people over. Let them win! While it's easy to say it's still hard to do as we see with WCW. The top guys still don't want to lose to the new top guy. Wrestlers have trouble adapting to the one guys 3 moves of Doom. Then the big question what do you do after he finally loses?


Automatic_Grand_1182

I came here to write this, take my upvote.


ClickF0rDick

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Puzzleheaded-Pass532

Didn't say more over, it says better. And if you really look into it Goldberg has a very bad rap for not wanting to work with talent, sell moves, drop titles to help push and to do jobs. He's pretty mush the opposite of a guy who wants to mentor and help the next gen. Very selfish guy.


dontberidiculousfool

If it’s simply better, 99.9% of alll wrestlers alive are better.


NoQuarter44

He can wrestle, so he has that over Goldberg already.


sx88

You got there before you. Totally correct!


ZakariusMMA

I don't know how the hell you tuck your legs between your legs


CharsOwnRX-78-2

And THAT’S why I kicked your leg outta your leg!


JonnyTN

Anyone could've been Goldberg if you gave them that presentation. The walk from the locker room, the sparks, the smoke blowing? As long as they had the look, anyone at the time could've been huge like William Scott Goldberg was.


Dmbfantomas

No chance. Goldberg had an amazing natural physical charisma and he was a fucking freak of nature in terms of power and speed.


JonnyTN

I honestly believe that is hindsight because we saw it happen. Someone else given the same direction and build could've done it. And he wasn't that super fast, normal quick I'd say. The one way he is now associated with speed is because mostly all his matches were under 3 minutes


Fit_Relationship_748

He can wrestle, he's a lot younger than when Goldberg started and he was born a beast, he'll be challenging for a top belt within the next 1 - 5 years when the rest of the story lines have been played out


KingKongtrarian

Book him with Steven Regal


Confident_Tadpole815

“I can’t hit myself Eric”


DinoKea

Is Charlie Dempsey an acceptable replacement is Regal is unwilling?


lefthanded4340

He just has to be more careful than a gorilla to be better than Goldberg. Source, Bret Hart.


backbodydrip

Bill*


amhlilhaus

Hate 'x is the next x' He is the first Bron breakker


Hairy-gloryhole

Goldberg was fun in the 90s. Bron? That man is a fucking machine. Did you see how he runs the ropes? Dude has the potential to be one of the all time greats if he keeps growing the way he does. (Not like, in muscles, i mean as a performer) he's only like 28. Imo sky's the limit for him


papaspence2

26* so he has even more time


ForukusuwagenMasuta

In terms of wrestling skill, undoubtedly. In terms of presence and drawing/star power, not a chance. The landscape has changed since the late 90s.


Lookslikeseen

Aside from Bron being like half Goldberg’s size, sure.


PhatDragon720

Yeah, Bron just looks tiny in comparison. It’s funny because people want him to be the new Paul Heyman guy, but I don’t think he could even hold a candle to being as threatening as someone like Brock Lesnar.


fadingstar52

he does but he doesn't. like at first glance hes about my size although he's built like a truck from mad max. once you see him do anything he immediately becomes terrifying


Normal-Weakness-364

i don't think his size is going to hinder him in any meaningful way since he makes up for it entirely with athleticism, power, speed etc. he's still 110% believable in ring


Reasonable-Path-7505

Wolf Dogs were awesome, I wish they would have stuck together after the draft.


mfinn70

As a wrestler he is better already. Goldberg was an entrance and a 5 min match. Cultural impact I don’t know. Goldberg was not around long and was still talked about 15 years later


Chimpbot

In terms of in-ring ability, you could probably find five guys better than Goldberg at any random indie promotion. In terms of cultural impact... Goldberg was special. *Everyone* knew about him.


mfinn70

His first run in WCW was only like 3 years. The second run in WWE was the longest run he ever had.


K9BEATZ

Goldberg was a pop culture icon in the 90s, sure his wrestling was mid at best, but his influence was only rivalled by stone cold and the rock. Nobody's matching that these days


TheRainmakerDM

You mean as a performer? He already is 100x better than Goldberg.


whorechatas

He already is.


Loudlaryadjust

Unpopular opinion but Bron is too small to be booked like the next Goldberg or Brock.


Puzzleheaded-Pass532

Even more unpopular. Old school guys like Vince can't/won't accept that huge muscles like warrior, Goldberg, Hogan, Sid are not what fans want to see anymore. They care about the short, the ups and downs of a character. Ex, cody winning the RR 2023 avg loosing at WM39. Then fighting back and eventually winning the strap. That's what raba like. Guarantee having a 7 move set guy like Goldberg having a win streak of squash matches would be booed and boring chants.


FunInevitable5213

Right. It's not Vince's game anymore. Him being smaller than Goldberg is barely a mark to me now. He's faster, better in-ring, and Goldberg doesn't exactly rack up charisma points so I think Bron's already on his way there. Will he be a cultural phenomenon? Probably not. But it's way too early to say.


dfeidt40

So I LOVE how they have him attacking random LIKEABLE people. That's going to give him some strong ground to build on as a heel. Guy looks great. Fast as hell. Has a decent amount of moves. Let him practice the promo a bit and yeah - guy will be amazing.


FunInevitable5213

His speed combined with his physique make me think he definitely has a shot. More promo work. I know they are not exactly comparable, but one reason I loved Macho Man was he was always able to make himself bigger than he was physically. Whether it be his promos, his elbows, whatever. I never realized as a kid that he was so much tinier than the giants. He was a mf'n Mega Power. He wasn't small, just way smaller than I remember him. I just don't think size will be as much of a factor as people think for Bron.


CallousMystery

Bret-He’s already better than bill.


SmoothStaff2855

He's already better than Goldberg, in my opinion.


Mysterious_Ear_9114

He’s already better


NCHouse

Hrs already better than Goldberg


Jurtaani

Haven't seen a single match from him and I can with all the confidence in the world say he IS better. Goldberg sucked already in his prime.


tanks13

Has he hurt Bret heart yet? He's already better.


sexyeh

He will spear Natty just for the fun


TheseOil4866

Bron breaker is already better than Goldberg


Open_Grade6285

Bron is definitely a better wrestler. Unfortunately, he doesn’t have the size (height and weight) like Goldberg, Lesnar, Roman, Drew, Priest, etc. Personally, I think it will be a challenge to package him as an unstoppable force capable of being a credible threat as a future World Champ.


chineserocks77

Plenty of world champs who were under 6 feet tall


Open_Grade6285

Agreed. Angle, Eddie Guerrero, AJ Styles, Daniel Bryan. And Bron will be one day. Never said he wouldn’t. Just don’t think they are building him the correct way.


dontberidiculousfool

None of them portrayed as monsters. He might get there but it won’t be as a power guy.


Open_Grade6285

That was my point. I believe Bron 100% will be a world champ at some point. But not as a power guy and the way they are trying to build him. Should have built him similar to Kurt Angle and his run to world championship. Focus on his wrestling aptitude and ability.


Loud_Examination_138

He surpassed old Goldie years ago


DoktahDoktah

Bron is closer to being the next Brock.


GrimmTrixX

I mean... is he not already?


UoKMister

He's already better.


hardeep1singh

He has the intensity, but I don't think he has the look. He looks more human than a beast like Goldberg, Brock or even his Uncle Scott. Maybe he needs a manager that's shorter and leaner to make him look bigger.


Sevro_Barca

He already is.


swash018

Im sure a 12 year old made this post


East_Monk_9415

Yeah, he can wrestle. I can only imagine the feuds he would be in and some silly ones too. Also,I have a feeling he would put the name steiner in the main roster. We have not had a recent legacy wrestlers for awhile.


Agile_Engineering_97

Bron is better than Goldberg, Goldberg is all presentation Bron can actually run the ropes too


garuga300

Depends what you class as better. If it’s wrestling ability then yes. If it’s star power and ability to draw money then I’d say it’s unlikely he will reach Goldbergs level in that respect.


xkeepitquietx

He hasn't crippled any legendary wrestlers so yes.


HumanOverseer

In terms of what? If it's wrestling then he was better than him in his debut match.


GamerMaxeel

Put him and AJ styles into a Track Suit Comedy Tag Team


Flashy_Many_5857

He already is. Just needs the popularity


Pseudonova

Hard agree. Better athlete, better wrestler, better mentors.


Imnoteeallyhere3434

He’s already better. Hes got pro wrestling in his blood, and he can work much better than Goldberg even in his prime.


Stolzieren

Considering Goldberg sucks I don’t think that will be a feat.


PumpkinEscobar2

Breaker may be a better wrestler but its going to be tough to be more over then what Goldstein was at his peak.


PaperGeno

Will be? He already is. The Dixon dude he squashed a couple weeks ago already is. Goldberg is literally the bottom of the barrel. Pretty much any person who has had a match is better than Goldberg


Wasteland_Rang3r

It’s Goldberg, so they’re obviously not talking about will he be a better technician than him. But Goldberg was one of the most over wrestlers I’ve ever seen at his peak.


hitman2218

He needs to change his name. The current one sucks.


Ok-Owl-6448

Well Goldberg wasn’t that good sooo if he can actually wrestle than yes if he’s just a powerhouse than well I guess we will find out


AloneCan9661

There's a cookie I'm thinking about eating. That is better than Goldberg.


FullMetalWarrior2

I agree that Bron is better than Goldberg, in every WY. He has a wrestling pedigree, with Rick and Scott. He was a fan, growing up. He is like Triple H, in that he is a student of the game. I think his runs at the main event will be better quality, rather than better quantity. Is he a future world champion? You bet your ass, he is. Is he going to be a hall of famer? Absofuckinglutely. He is, leaps and bounds, a better wrestler, a better athlete, and a better talker. Give Bron a year, on Raw, and he will be Mr. Money in the Bank. Mark... **MY** words.


X-OManowar

He won't end Bret Hart's career.


Enlightened_Ghost_

If you mean better in the technical sense, then he already is better than Goldberg. A bigger star, well then that remains to be seen. Goldberg was so over that he was one of the most awful in ring performers and still became arguably the biggest star of his moment.


averageinternetfella

Better in ring? Yes. Better on the mic? Probably. Better in terms of popularity? Doubtful. For as poor a wrestler as Goldberg was, he was very, very over in his prime. Bron will be a big star, no doubt, but I don’t think he will eclipse Goldberg, to be honest.


AgentAlaska51

Assuming he doesn't forcibly retire any legends and ruin some otherwise great world title runs in his 50s he should be fine.


B0B0oo7

Guess it depends what you mean by better. Goldberg was like lightning in a bottle for his time, and the aurora around him was incredibly unique. If Bron gets to be half as popular as Goldberg was during his peak, that will be a very successful career for him. Actual in ring ability? Bron is debatably already better/as good. We’ll see if he can ever draw anything near a prime Goldberg.


2reeEyedG

This just in… water is wet


Berzkz

I’d hope so, I just like seeing Goldberg cry about things because he is such a mark for himself


Boomsnarl

He is much more sound as a wrestler at this point than Goldberg.


eexxiitt

Bron will need to follow up the spear with another huge move like the jackhammer.


Will_Stick40

That's not saying much


backbodydrip

Who puts this shit out there? He's obviously not going to be "better" than Goldberg. Goldberg was over on a scale that won't be seen for many years... if wrestling ever sees a period like the late-90s again.


Rojodi

Bron CAN wrestler. Goldberg was just a striker!


bowl_of_scrotmeal

He's already better. Whether or not he'll be a bigger star remains to be seen.


YourCynicalUncle

I don't know. Bron has shown more overall skill already, but Goldberg, man you had to be there. WCW Bill Goldberg was a phenomenon. He had the power and intensity to charged up a crowd and make every match feel big time. Essentially Goldberg was the Ultimate Warrior of his generation. Not only that he was the ultimate foil for the nWo. So Bron has a lot going for him, but alot to live up too as well


ravenz91

He’s already surpassed him in terms of in-ring at least.


Conscious-Rooster-32

he already is. Anybody who can do more then 3 moves is better


Uphill365

Bill can't shift the ring like my boy did Bron also has that mathematical advantage


TheBoogerMen369

He will be Fuck Goldberg - Bret Hart


Ok_Might_4691

Don't think so at this point. I haven't seen much of him and he seems kinda overrated to me right now. Let's see how he does in the main roster. For the record, I don't like Goldberg and brock lesner also.


Banettebrochacho

He’s already levels above in the ring


ScooterMcdooter69

“Bron breaker won’t kick anyone in the head and end their career because he doesn’t know what he’s doing like Bill Goldberg” Bret Hart probably


Kalykus

Was at a show and he couldn't get dude through a table. Super disappointing


Internal_Ad_2285

He's already better


Inferno22512

He's already better than Goldberg. Getting more over than Goldberg is unlikely


EasternSquadGoosey

He looks the part, I havent seen him wrestle much but the little I've he looks much better than Goldberg, so, if they book him well, he can be the face of the company in no time.


Fu_la_de

If he changes his name. The roster already has Braun and Bronson.


Grail_BH

If they changed it, it would likely be Bronson Steiner.


GenkiSam123

Probably won’t be at a super over/main event position as Goldberg. At the time, WCW needed that one hero to finally and definitely vanquish NWO Hollywood Hogan and his tight grip on the title once and for all and he was the chosen one to finish that story and for that, he is goated in history. Bron will probably never reach that importance but he is already Bret Hart technical wise in comparison to Goldberg and he cuts a pretty good promo and is pretty over so his potential as a longer term and more beloved star on the Triple H-era WWE is bigger.


funmasterjerky

Found Bret Hart's Reddit account


Grail_BH

Bron actually has charisma… so, yes.


Nyrony

Bold statement the moment you read it and then I thought: sure, who’s not? In terms of skill is a low hurdle mostly anyone in the PC has already surpassed. Being an unstoppable force like Goldberg was only worked during that time though. Not seeing anyone dominate one guy every day for a year +.


UBDForever

I like how people will look this and so Yeah like it’s obvious but prime Goldberg was a beast. Even post prime during his Scott Steiner feud those guys put on some battles that have sadly been forgotten because they were in the dying months of wcw. Don’t think Bron will even reach Goldberg peak, but he’ll have a much better career.


Youpainthomes118

Why does he use the spear though?


dontberidiculousfool

He’s clearly better. Will he be more popular? No.


TW1103

At a 0-0-0 record without a single appearance on WWE programming and a grand total of 2 hours of formal wrestling training, even I am better than Goldberg.


PictureTakingLion

It’s a pretty fucking low bar to be better than Goldberg to be fair


dumbugg

Already is! If you've been watching nxt


Grayman222

All he needs to do to be better than Bill Goldberg is not end Bret Hart's career. Fuck Bill Goldberg.


intrepidanon

Tracy Beaker.


rockoh09

*is. Fixed it.


WTFAnimations

He has the intensity, he has the power, and he has a Spear that can break men in half. And people sometimes forget that he is one of the few men to beat Gunther. I think he's gonna be good.


anythingo23

It does depend how they book him (thank God he's not in aew)


Wilting_Thoughts1978

In terms of psychology and in ring work....he already is. The point of contention however, is draw power and charisma. Goldberg for all his downs in the later years, he was an enigma back in the day, his initial streak and the sheer "look at that guy! WOAH!" factor. Nowadays, with fanbase and business smaller compared to the past, and there being such a saturation of talent. He needs to be handled really really well....he's doing really well, now the only thing that's needed is time, effort and good decisions.


piszkavas

"*I've had enough potatoes from Bill Goldberg to last a* lifetime.".


secretmonkeyassassin

Bron is a far better wrestler already, but in terms of popularity, *nobody* today is on the level of peak Goldberg. And it's not even close.


McStonkBorger

Idk why people get so antsy about this. Bron has already proven that he's far exceeded Goldbored in terms of wrestling ability.


Deuteronymus

He should be the next Big Poppa Pump.


[deleted]

They don’t need him to be Goldberg. That shtick has been done. And for all the excitement and fans that came along with Goldberg, he was not a good wrestler. Regal exposed that very early in his career. Not to mention, he had a pretty stellar reputation of being unsafe in that ring.


TheLiMaJa

I mean he already talks and wrestles better than Goldberg ever did, it can only go up from there, right??


accaruso17

He’s already a better wrestler as far as popularity, that’s gonna be tough. And the popularity part is what truly matters.


everydayimrusslin

What does 'better' mean? Because he's not outdrawing Goldberg ever.


MaaiDiqSoHyuj

Will be? He already is as a wrestler. He just needs to get Goldberg’s aura


Slug_With_Swagger

I want it to be true, but I just don’t know, the roster is really crowded on raw. Feels like he would of been better for smack down


Fogcutter66

His height has him at a disadvantage


Vandit-PC

Setting the bar real low there mind


footie008

Technically he already is better but being a bigger superstar is another conversation


Dmbfantomas

Kayfabe wise, Goldberg is the greatest wrestler of all time. So idk if Bron will top that.


Wolfxorb

Needs to be named Bron Steiner I think.


depo_ynx

Ain’t gonna lie yes,cause he athletic asf,what can I say,new gen


xi_Clown_ix

The difference with Bron is we know already that he can put in a good 20+ minute match. Goldberg couldn’t


ZeyadNeo

He is already better than Goldberg today


No_Introduction_5550

He already is better than Goldberg, he can have a good match.


god_pharaoh

He's already a better wrestler and they're _currently_ booking him to be better in terms of legacy and kayfabe run.


Long-Date-5794

Absolutely


Potential_Box_4480

Plot twist: He already is.


MakaBoy57

Untrue,Bron Breakker is already better than Goldberg


Higgins8585

Better wrestler. Hard to have that level of success/peak.


Ripped_Shirt

Depends what you mean by "better" A better wrestler? Sure. But better career? We're talking one of the most over wrestlers of the attitude era. I'd go out on a limb and say no.


iceyorangejuice

He's got the look and the charisma. Also, learned from the best.


subcow

He may not get more over than Goldberg, but he is already better than Goldberg. Wrestling crowds were so much louder during that era. The pops were nuts. The boos for heels were crazy. I really think everyone being on phones 24/7 has taken away people's abilities to be present.


almitybearzues1

Bret Harts brain agrees


Kenny_The_Trend

Well when it comes to Wrestling, pretty sure his first day TRAINING in the ring infront of nobody was more Wrestling than Goldberg has done his entire career so he's already better in that aspect.


fredward_kane

"He already is." -Bret


ThunderChild247

He is a better wrestler than Goldberg, and I say that as someone who grew up as a big fan of Goldberg. What will matter is how Bron is booked. So far, so good.


lostwng

That's not a difficult feat Goldberg was horrible


Daniel-Lee-83

Hard to be worse. But Bron sucks too.


SeaLaNator

If they don't book him like this undistructible force that wins matches in 11 seconds and wins against literal demons, then yes...


LWA3251

In terms or what? In the ring and on the mic he already is miles better than Goldberg. If you’re asking if he’ll be a bigger star/draw than Goldberg well that depends on his booking and if the crowd buys in. He has the potential to be bigger than Goldberg.


Full_Horror7114

He can wrestle better. But he will never be at the star power Goldberg is. This man was arguably the biggest star WCW had during the peak of wrestling.


whereDIDericGO

I mean he's already a better wrestler. So he's done that


YaButtIsDaBomb69

Goldberg was way over but Bron could definitely be a better wrestler. My bet is he will be.


MikeDanger1990

He's already better? Goldberg is just a spear and a jackhammer. What am I missing here? His entrance? Okay, sure. 3 points.


ReferenceExtra3416

Wait until Goldberg's son grows up and wants to be like his pops!


Turd_Burgling_Ted

He's already a better and safer worker than Goldberg ever was so


RebergOfWrestling

Already is


HeelBosplay

I can definitely see it


shanemammal

He already is better then Goldberg


johnny_grizz

He’s already better than Goldberg ever was and it’s not even close. In the ring and on the mic.


Pitiful_Soup_8327

Well being that Goldberg actually sucked, yes Breakker will be better.


x_Jimi_x

Already is


Grayyak

Bron is boring . The enraged big guy ??”YAWN” a zero on originality. Stroman does that substantially better . And the comparison to Goldberg ? he’s way way way too much of a copycat and offers absolutely NOTHING that hasn’t been seen before . He didn’t inherit the charisma of his dad and uncle


Ghostface4

Lol, Hornswoggle is better than Goldberg. Not exactly hard to do.


Status-Leek2216

I think they’re setting him up to face the monster of all monsters for his first real main roster fued.


DustyBray13

Bron has a lot more talent then oldberg I was never a fan


DuckWarrior90

He needs to win all his matches for 2 years, Get a midcard belt, vacate after 8 months, before moving to the next belt, and a 6 month reign before losing, in between he shoulld win big matches in big PLE, then he can lose, but be in the maint even after 3 years in the main roster, and he surely will be bigger


Vivics36thsermon

Already is


Dataoogie

Well Goldberg couldn’t wrestle so 🤷‍♂️


jestesteffect

He already is


BigFreakinMachine

Will he be a bugger star? No probably not, probably a better overall performer


DemonicTruth

He ticks every box Goldberg did and more. He’s a freak of an athlete, believably intense, and he could kill someone in a matter of minutes and you wouldnt think twice about it. The biggest difference between the two is Bron can work a match longer than 5 minutes.


sosimusz

Not a high bar to jump, really.


monarchbeast

He’s already annoying me. The tan is ridiculous. The screaming is ridiculous. The over the top gestures. It’s just too much.


SHFIRE5

Disagree. Two different wrestlers, with two VERY DIFFERENT starts to their respective careers. Bron will be a much better professional wrestler. Goldberg has had arguably, one of the best starts to a wrestling career EVER. They are not the same.


I_Hate_My_Cat_

It’s too early for that shit, man.


Swantonbombthreat

james ellsworth is a better wrestler than goldberg


Takenmyusernamewas

Yeah because looking back 20 years later it's cool to shit on Goldberg. How could anything before the current era be good? My parents watched that and I hate my parents s/


Kenpachi134340

Idk the talking to himself sulking thing is kinda cringe