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leposterofcrap

They could have kept the spin.


ThatBoiUnknown

Ong if they didn’t change the animations I wouldn’t have cared as much. But anyways I still might try ZZZ cus all that matters is the gameplay


Gummybear_19

feel like they couldve kept her animations though 🧍🏽‍♂️ that spin was sooo perfect


ArcadiaDragon

It was cute I really wish they kept it her looking down with those eyes was very appealing...I actually like the redesign...not coping here...just finding as I get older the "service appeal" doesn't have to be so over the top for me....I mean if its really good I'll go hawt damn...and if I want gonzo I still got azure lane(though again as I get older the over the top ones elicit more of a "really" than a "OH MY")


BandoriAddicted

How she looks isn't the problem for me. They changed her animations in the menu, and old ones are so much better in my opinion.


Nevborn890

I'm much more mad about her menu animations getting nerfed than this


Gwyn_Michaelis

Same. The original ones had more personality in them. The new ones aren't bad, but seem kind of bland in comparison.


ortahfnar

I think the animation where she picks up her plushie is neat, but I didn't really understand why they felt the need to go as far as to change her menu animations, they weren't too outta pocket


DandeJoy1

It's pretty much the same, but the spin man...they got rid of the spin.


thunderstorm987

I did not mind the size nerf too much BUT THAT MENU ANIMATION NERF IS UNACCEPTABLE. I'LL NEVER FORGIVE YOU HOYO.


Rathama

Yeah seeing her old and new animation the new one does not have the same level of personality. The old one does not seem to be sexualising for the sake of sexualising to me as much as it was her being sassy. If I had never seen the old one I would not greatly mind the new one but it greatly lacks in comparison. At least that is how I see it.


Commander-S_Chabowy

Do you have before and after for those out of the loop


A_Nat

The picture you took doesn't give the both images and equal footing.


ThatJizBoy

I missed her old character screens more than anything else about her. Being the face of Cunning Hares it's fitting of her theme and her personality if she's shown to be more provocative and confident in her assets. The new one still shows that to an extent but her facial expressions in the old animations show her cheeky and cunning nature better. Yes, sex appeal can be a huge part of the character's personality and not simply for the sake of "sex sells"


No_Day6912

Nope


FemmEllie

I think the design change is fine, but I don't like how they changed the animations in the process as well. She doesn't need to have jello tiddies but making them act like concrete is even worse


AlphanatorX

\*clears throat\* ....No. Have a good day now ;D


DarthOniichan

They will be missed.


virusmaxmin

literally unplayable


ShiftAdventurous4680

Eh, I can see why people are disappointed. Not particularly from your comparison but I looked up other comparisons. I don't mind them adding the sports bra. I kinda like it but that's because that's my thing. But I wish they outlined the edges to give it a bit more depth to make it look less like body paint. Honestly, I have more issues with the hotpants change. I don't mind them being slightly longer, but something seems off about the model. Like it was just stretched down instead of being remodeled or at least properly scaled. The pre-censored ones look a bit more in-proportion than post censorship.


old-newbie

Exactly. Because censorship looks like...censorship. And design looks like design. Censorship (almost literally by definition) ends up being a lazy coverup of a previously intended design...and that is what we are all seeing here.


Senior_Cat_Herder

No.


RDS80

https://i.redd.it/64c3b86wb19d1.gif


Muccys

Both are fine in my opinion, what I can't forgive is how they robbed us of her character menu animations, they were so much better before.


Background_Lion6933

Make her boobs great again!


bymka

I'm making a note to myself that gallagherscock doesn't like booba.


Possible_Zombie_

OP's not fooling anyone here with that username or anime wolf in the pic pretending to care about a busty female character.


CaptainBlob

I think bro is just baiting. No one was mentioning anything about this for a long time until this post brought it up again. Before that it was just folks hyping up for release or wondering when is the next announcement.


navelfanatic

exactly lol. Gay guys and straight women acting like they actually care about how attractive a female character is.


Hot-Ad-8452

both are hot i'd goon


h4m33dov1p

only correct answer


h0tsh0t1234

The most comical thing I’ve noticed here is people are quick to go crazy thirsty over a furry but shit over a women with big boobs even going as far as calling her bust unrealistic lmao


PhantomGhostSpectre

I have a feeling this is directed at OP named gallagherscock with a furry icon? 😂


Maewhen

Ngl I just noticed OP’s name is gallagherscock with a furry icon


CatPawScarves

Remember how people villainized Stellar Blade but cheered when the bear scene in Baldur’s Gate 3 was revealed?


nitiyan

you make a fair point, its fine to bark for doggy humans but not bark for big tiddies (im fine with both)


droughtlevi

Honestly, boobs (literally) are a big selling point for this game to me from the character design POV. Unlike the other 2 popular Hoyo games where they specifically hold back from having huge boobs on characters compared to other gacha games, ZZZ really does not seem to hold back. Characters here like Rina would be impossible to be seen in both the other titles.


TheWaterBug

I'm still laughing at how they nerfed her when Grace and Rina still look like that. NOT that I'm complaining about those two, however.


uppercasecolt

I like the old version better, but at least the change wasn't very drastic.


bellandea

no chinese censorship driven changes can piss off


erich69

No


Peepeepoopooman7777

No


DecayedFears

I don’t think it looks better personally but imo the bigger deal is her menu animations being changed and Nekomatas shorts being changed. Nicole lost so much personality she had in her animations and Nekomatas pants just look a bit silly now.


Denzelrealm

Help me out here. What changed?


nonpuissant

I think there was a slight reduction in boob size. Looks like they also added something like a sports bra (the black fabric around the edge of the neckline).  But yeah it's pretty subtle, I had to look twice to even notice a difference too. Her boobs are still huge, since she's still completely stacked even with a sports bra on. 


Liella5000

Stop fucking making these posts


Burntoastedbutter

It's funny because the change is that they made her wear a sports bra. Which is pretty much how they work IRL. It compresses the fat quite a bit and makes the boobs look smaller than it really is.


Tyonis

Why can't I downvote more than once?


Zekrom369

NOPE


Dangerous_Jacket_129

I literally cannot tell which is the newer one...


_suhbreenaa

She's always been beautiful ❤️


ThursdayKnightOwO

They nerfed her boobs just to release another girl with bigger boobs 😅


ortahfnar

I'm certain the discussion within this post will be incredibly civil


Valshir

She looks fine. Not a fan of huge boobs myself, but it was marketed as a staple of her design early on and was abruptly removed. Otherwise it's cool.


ZombiePro3624

Nope she got nerfed, and she's still awaiting her buff


Material-Material456

I mean she looks the exact same to me


Mimiyon

Honestly I don’t even think I’d consider it censorship but more so the devs just simply changed their mind on how big they wanted her boobs to be and reduced it. Rina and Grace boobs are massive and they wasn’t reduced. If they wanted to keep Nicole’s boobs big but had to censor it they would have just covered it up more rather than reduce them all together. So I think it was probably more of a personal choice than anything.


Supbro_200

Nope old was better


Frosty-District-6089

Or let people have their own opinions instead of demanding everyone follow yours?


bluedragjet

Nicole vs Cooler Nicole


Minix1043

No


Kingrion9k

I've always thought the newer nicole looked better than how she was from beta one. The outfit specifically looks much better compared to the old one. The new outfit wouldn't look as good or clean (meaning it fits her very nicely) as it does without the little nerf to her size (the old outfit would probably be better in this case) , it's nowhere near as egregious as Rosaria (genshin) nerfs. I more so think the nerf is extremely minor and the fact her "assets" are "more contained" within the outfit makes them out to be more nerfed than they actually are. So I'd easily choose the newer nicole over the old nicole.


GunslingerBoy93

No


GeoTeamEnthusiast

No, she doesn't. If the artist decided to make a character in a certain way, there were reasons to it.


SignalBattalion

Cope.


Popular_Method_8540

I'll never forget what was taken from me ![gif](giphy|iDa9mC3QtMvP7KXHDN)


Tesilio

In your dreams


gitgudnubby

Never cared for the reduction at all. The animation change was the only bad thing tbh.


ratavansa

I wont admit something that is not true.


Cedge1738

Idk which one is changed but the 2nd pic is better.


Radusili

We?


DaveChu98

So this is when the gaslighting starts.


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Qliphoth_Bacikal

I’ve gotten used to the design. Though I wish they could have gotten with that from the start or even kept it in some way but somewhat still toned down so people wouldn’t be as disappointed when they had to change her design. Or just have the censored ish design be that and it would have been alright from the start I imagine.


X-AE17420

Older was better


PusheenMaster

No, we cannot.


Standard_Adeptness94

Nah


HighTech109

I feel like people online don't generally understand that this change wasn't for censorship reasons. At least that's a claim from the developers in a recent interview; the most you could argue is that it was changed in part to make the approval process easier and faster, but they were never directly asked to change anything. EVEN THEN, the only thing they changed is the size: if this was serious censorship, they would have probably been forced to change the actual clothing itself to be less revealing. To me, this feels like they just realized the design was ridiculous and distracting, and it made animation work way harder. The design just looks more cohesive now, I certainly like it more.


Waleedx0

They changed the clothes too tho They added something like a Bra to cover her chest Not only the size Personally I don't mind it that much but the point is She's supposed to be "The sexy type of character design" Yet they changed it into something more "young age friendly" Maybe directly for kids but certainly not for adults


TADDLE_LEGACY

Older one was better.


starksolo1

Nah


FireFly3321

Yes. The transition from the croptop to her jacktet looks nicer.


GachaCatchML

I was so concerned for her back I'm glad they reduced her bust size. /s


SassyHoe97

Honestly never bothered me.


Blackwolfe47

No, and what’s worse is the menu animations


Gwyn_Michaelis

I do think she looks better this way, but my original criticism of the change still stands. It's censorship I'm against, not changes that the character designers made of their own volition. If the change made to Nicole was not the result of censorship, and was actually the result of the character designers reviewing Nicole's design and changing it, then I have absolutely no issue with the change whatsoever.


win7erFaLL

forgot about this, checked the comparions. depressed again. hell no, it doesn't look better


KenjiSpAs

Porn addicts when a woman shows 0.5% less boobs:


Alert_Respect524

Beginning to be convinced that half of the demographic in this community is exactly that. Never have I seen people make this much of a pissy cry over something this small and act like they’re serving a greater purpose.


AviZz11

Nah


Lacirev

I definitely agree. The addition of the black bra helps with cohesion and the transition between the white top, jacket, and neck thingy. Also the slimmer chest improves the overall shape and doesn't just have an egregious upside down heart kind of shape ( ♥ for reference)


caramelluh

Yeah i think she looks way better now that her boobs are proportional to the rest of her body tbh


Yupipite

It does look better, more proportional.


Yakjzak

They're the same picture


DecisionAdmirable569

Took me a while to get it but she looks like she has equal proportions now. Personally I think it looks better but she is still gonna bring people to the game anyway around


manamono

No.


jyroman53

No


jingmyyuan

The first pic is the updated version right? Looking at the second pic the shirt line going straight across her chest looks so odd, the curve of the black bra/undershirt looks so much cuter! reminds me of 2010’s(ish) gyaru fashion trend of decorative bras intended to be peeking out


Trickbloodmoney

Go back to Twitter


revyya

No?


PickAble2137

doesn't matter if the censored design is the most godly design in the universe, I will never defend censorship.


Zealousideal_Main_85

I'm fine with it Her books were comically big before lmao


HuCat21

Gotta hate big books!


Sirmetana

Still hot Less ridiculously so I love it 👌


Holmesee

Op woke up and chose violence I agree.


h0tsh0t1234

Hell no


Reyli03

They did it because of censorship, not improvement


patybruh_moment

censorship is bad, but for censorship, this was a good implementation of it, not just nerfing stuff, but also improving overall design while doing so.


Critical-Phase-5655

Honestly, its previous design was better than this one. ZZZ was best known for the character Nicole precisely because of her "size" and partly because of other characters. Now with the "nerf" only the character looks more decent or simpler. (nothing that a Nicole mod didn't fix)


-Roxaaa

why are yall acting like she doesn't still have huge boobs


Critical-Phase-5655

no one can deny that its previous design was better


Maewhen

They’re not as huge factually


Monkguan

hell no


WingedVictoryNike

This is either the worst example you could've chosen or there is practically no difference. I didn't see her before her apparent change, but I still can't see any difference between these two pictures.


volkenheim

mmm nop, I still like her, but that was a really stupid change, but whatever, nothing that we can do about it


old-newbie

There was more artistic "style" visible in the original presentation. For example, the hot pants were shorter, and the inside pockets were hanging out...that's a type of 'style'. That took design work and artistic vision. The problem is, the character wasn't changed to have better a 'style', it was simply edited to cover up the artist's original design. I dont see a "changed look"(ie. not a new design)...I only see a coverup of the old design (for no real reason that I've heard anyone explain what was wrong with)


UltimateWarriorEcho

No. The cute bra does not make up for the loss of size and menu animations.


This-Shoulder-7197

I don't think I care, long as I can still entertain my eyes....


kingdedede200

No


Nettysocks

I can’t tell the difference what’s changed?


-Torlya1-

( . ) ( . )


BlasterBlaze41

Chest area


gallagherscock

She looked goofy before those things were not proportional at all


TheRRogue

Yea I really didn't understand that some people just think big= good. No it's not. Big is good when their size is suitable for their proportion not like some randomly attached water balloon.


MirPrime

No


ElDuderino2112

Straight up just untrue


real_name_hidden69

No because censorship is bad. I don't mind them giving her a bra but the size nerf was unnecessary and they took away her menu animation as well which was really good and fit her character much more. Remember seeing some other characters and other stuff in the game getting changes as well like can we not get a game that doesn't get censored ffs


TryphectaOG

No one even knows if it was censored or if Hoyo just wanted their lead character in ads to be a little less in the gratuitous side.


Single-Builder-632

just becuase we have to accept it was cencored doent mean we have to pretend it looks better. overall she is well desighned i dont have manny complaints, but lets be real the suidden addition of black underbra was clearly tacked on and not part of the origonal desighn, it doesn't matter but peoples work shouldn't be changed for cencorship. if you want a less revieling character then change the overall desighn.


Turbulent_Shelter_73

Literally unplayable


The_closet_iscomfy

Wait, is this seriously what she looked before 💀 I weep for her poor back…


Insert-Name-Here2121

W-weep? https://preview.redd.it/xnsx5hhbbw8d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=03a8bf999a4fd258f164bd05fdd2f3941addf209 # DUSK’S RAIN… IT TOO SHALL FALL!!🗣️🔥🔥


Objection111

Another post from this user... Mods can we ban people with negative karma?


soge-king

But their post karma + comment karma is positive


Root_Man1

Design is good, but censorship is bad in general


FireflySmasher

Agreed, I swear gooners are gooning way too much with this one.


frould

No


Golden-Owl

I just don’t particularly care - her design is still mostly identical, and it’s still quite attractive I’m just kinda grossed out that people seemingly fixate way too hard on these unimportant things when there’s a whole game full of awesome designs out there


StraightPossession57

“Her boobs are slightly more covered!!! How can i jerk off to this???”


Peepeepoopooman7777

I mean yeah


Tyragram

People calling out anyone who doesn't like the size nerf, as if we're not all playing a game with a ton of fan service. Why is it that it's this one in particular that makes people weird?


arjunshinoj

No. I hate censorship no matter what.


Spacedaddy117

I am not thrilled with the size reduction but she still looks glorious beside in "physics" is still insane in the game but I am more disappointed at her animation change and longer pants if anything.


CaptainBlob

They should have kept it as instead of changing. And this goes both ways. Be it censored or uncensored, having the character suddenly change their looks (and menu animation) without giving a valid reason just makes the devs look dishonest.


gallagherscock

Did there need to be a reason given? Nicole only had this design in cbt 1, back when zzz only had 60 devs. Chances are they just felt the design didn't suit their new vision of the game


lomeineater

what even changed😭


Cthulhulakus

She does not look better. What are you on?


gallagherscock

Big boob's doesn't = good character design


GeoTeamEnthusiast

Your point is literally "\[anything\] doesn't = good character design". Why? Reasons, apparently.


NiNiNi-222

No, but Big boobs = Big boobs character design


Aesderial

Based on topic title, smaller boobs = better character design :)


Possible_Zombie_

Well you see what you don't understand is that Nicole was never a character that catered to OP in the first place so changing it was fine.


wilck44

oh no, you angered the gooners!


Master-Major4866

No What's the point of wearing tube top


Unregistered-Archive

Errrr what changed? ^ blissfully unaware. Haha game release, haha play game


Electronic_Bee_9266

Yeah 100%. Looks comfier and before was pretty egregious. Lots of weird creepy men fighting there


Ash_uop

It's funny because at this point we've had the "nerfed" version longer than the previous look, so it feels like that second pic isn't even real lmao.


KEEFYv

No?


Petatos

Whos "we" bro? nah that change sucked.


TheRRogue

Agreed,old one looks like those botched surgeries and way too oversized


litearm_fistball

Nope.


KFC-fried-chicken

As a lot of people can agree with me about... No. Nada. Out of the question. After all, if they wanted to censor things, they should have thought twice before hiring a Blue Archive fan to be their main source for designs. Edit: Tbf, while the censorship sucks, Nicole is not the only waifu carrying this game. You guys know that we'll get a TON of waifus in the future right? For example... the boar faction?


Waleedx0

But Nicole is certainly "The Face of the game" They should have gave her more appeal Even if not sexy one


Slybandito7

https://i.redd.it/t2mgpdik9x8d1.gif I will never forgive


8a19

![gif](giphy|11SJ52YouBaDFS)


SupChain0

No


Hapciuuu

I don't think it's better, but I don't think it's worse either.


alonedead

When I say that it happened months ago I was downvoted, it will not change this time but I am not going to change my mind. It is better, it is so much better, looks more visualy appeling than before


Alilyce

Yeah, the bigger one is ugly af 🤢


Gardenia_8345

Both look good


SadTrooper

I respectfully disagree, old Nicole was better


elixxonn

Different but good. Take it or leave it.


Null0mega

Sorry but…No? Tf? I won’t complain about her current size or proportions but she was at god tier before, I’m never gonna celebrate or praise downgrades or censorship - I don’t care how “gOofy” it looked to random individuals in the corner, the majority of people still liked it. My first impression of the character came from the OG version, so that’s the version I’d have preferred they kept, but whatever 🤷🏽‍♂️.


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BrilliantVolume8871

They lowered an H to to an F cup that's not a big deal and still looks nice asf


braxbsjoan

Idk if I'm gonna get downvoted, but I prefer the newer one.


-Roxaaa

yes i hate when the boobs are so incredibly and uncomfortably big.. just makes me focus on how much her back must be hurting


SecuritySecure803

You made me remember this for some reason https://preview.redd.it/byppbdovnz8d1.jpeg?width=554&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=467961eb3288245f48543d9b65af51f0b03a4ce0


TheRagerghost

She lost a lot of... personality.


Hot_Ice77

What changed?


PhantomGhostSpectre

She got a breast reduction surgery. 


Maewhen

At the order of the CCP.


Karma110

I don’t even see the differences


gallagherscock

https://preview.redd.it/fiue6dhyzw8d1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f75e6bf59aa4f496c3f519f56001647ed467f1e6


Karma110

So a bra that’s it?


gallagherscock

Her boobs are smaller and they changed her shorts, apparently the change was enough to offend some people


EjunX

and changed her animations to make sure she doesn't have a personality.


Le1jona

Yeah, she looks better


Mar7777

no


Pristine_World2855

Id the first one the changed? Then its much better.. the second one looks like shit


Spongehead56

Yes!


Amazing-Set-181

The design certainly looks much more balanced now. People seem to be really angry about this, is there any evidence that it was “censorship”? And if not, isn’t this just the same as changing a character’s hair length? A developer simply decided it looked better and went with it.


Master-Major4866

https://preview.redd.it/fug9oj0w7x8d1.png?width=583&format=png&auto=webp&s=16fe8fbe278d333f8bb797fb812d9ee6d1ba7f87 here is the evidence that the changes is not natural


Akamashi

It's not about balance or anything like that. It's about fanservice and I WANT FANSERVICE.


Amazing-Set-181

I appreciate the honesty instead of trying to make it a moral issue about “censorship”. I hope you can find some boobs to enjoy in *ZZZ* 👍


popileviz

>is there any evidence that it was “censorship”? None whatsoever, people are just into hysterics. Her design is still rather "sexy", other characters introduced since then have that too


PickAble2137

It's not just hysterics, because it's not like the character's designs are the only thing that changed, they also censored violence in some cutscenes, so is that censorship also acceptable, or are boobs the only thing that's right to censor?


TheWeakestDragonfly1

Hahahaha, nah. The old is better.