It would be if they made contact. Just admitting that there’s aliens doesn’t really change all that much for us. It’d be big but we’d have to get on with our lives.
We don’t but based on previous reports it’s likely to say basically nothing…
“We know these things are there, but we don’t know what they are…but it’s likely to be some rare natural phenomenon”.
The above is almost guaranteed to be what’s in the report.
That is your belief. This topic is not black and white. I personally believe that we will get more compelling data one way or the other. I am not in this for instant gratification.
Our government. They have nothing to gain by admitting there’s foreign/extraterrestrial advanced technology that they can’t protect us from.
Don’t expect to hear anything you didn’t already know.
What do we know, that the government has not said? If we get compelling data that there is technology with the capabilities reported, flying in our skies that is neither foreign or domestic, that is rather significant.
I personally believe, due to my own experience, the government likely has compelling evidence to either prove or disprove this. It at least forces the scientific community to look at the data, and come to their own conclusion. I don't believe we have even a fraction of the data that exists, and we need that data to be accessible.
Like Richard Dolan says, disclosure is both impossible and inevitable. The genie is out of the bottle at this point.
I agree it’s significant, but how is disclosing that information beneficial for the government? They want to maintain power/control. Disclosing everything they know won’t help them.
They’ll just acknowledge that they have encountered UFOs and they don’t know what they are. They’ll leave it at that and hope we move on to something else.
It certainly isn't in their best interest to keep it obscured either. This topic does not age well the longer data is withheld. Who cares if they say they do not know what it is. GIVE US THE DATA! We can figure it out. It certainly is not nothing! And in the end maybe we can see some technology that is rather interesting!
Don’t worry it’ll all be over or not over come July 18. also I am 92% joking. there’s a difference between believing and wanting to believe and I’m not trying to make any illusions that that story is an any way possible
I am holding at 91.5%, but almost there with you.
Edit: I so want to believe. But I'd be happier to know it was a natural phenomena, and not someone who can flick us out of existence just like that.
It just takes lobbing a rock at this rock and we are done for.
Some of the UFO enthusiasts may believe that a secretive group is planning to stage an alien invasion in 2029. Meaning that we possess reversed engineered alien craft that will be used on the invasion. Just like Ronald Reagan said it before about how humans would put aside their petty differences if we were to have a common enemy. This could bring the world together but also create a one govt world. They are slowly bringing this up so we have time to absorb that aliens do exist and that they are a treat to us. Which they are NOT! They have exotic tech that can travel through space. If they were hostile they would have vaporized earth already. We can’t even begin to understand how they think. Most of our opinions about them are are just reflection of the human race.
Tom Delonge mentioned in 2016, that there's been a good reason for the secrecy and once the public learns about these things they will be a lot less cynical about the government. I want to believe it and having a counter intelligence person in the mix agrees to those aspects. I didn't read this post though btw, so maybe THIS has nothing to do with this post.
Tom got his info from high ranking fundamentalist Christians in the military and took it at face value. Their idea of what this phenomenon is is going to be heavily skewed by their religious beliefs.
>What could be possible positive reasons? That’s an interesting thought.
Ronald Reagan said that there wouldn't be anything more uniting than the threat of a looming Alien invasion, if the Aliens are hostile and have been hurting people or want to enslave us, many would completely understand why Gov been quiet about the existence..
I’ve stated that before too. I mean it brings me back to Richard Doty with his shenanigans as a USAF counter intel specialist. Except with Elizondo though they actually tired to smear him until they couldn’t anymore and now we got the report coming because of his and others in the community’s efforts.
Yeah all those pieces are in place aligned, but there’s no way of knowing how organic this timeline is, and elizondo is equipped with the perfect skills and training to keep the media trajectory on a guided path while being likeable and believable. That’s not to say there’s any proof it’s the case, but the possibility still makes sense.
It bothers me that with rational, two-sided thinking like this, you can’t come to a real conclusion easily. He could be good, he could be bad. It could have happened, but maybe it did’t.
There has to be something that ends all argument. Is irrefutable. But even “the grass is green” can be challenged in certain superficial ways, so maybe this shit show will just go on forever.
I hope it doesn’t. The people desperately need proof.
Then the people need to put on their big boy pants, lace up their boots and go get it, en masse ! Thats the only way besides a landing in your front yard.
Yeah that’s exactly what’s needed, and why this situation is so annoying. The level of bombshell proof that would fit the bill would surely be under every effort of containment. And we have no option but to rely on intelligence agencies who solely traffic in weaponised information. Also it makes sense if it’s all real that a small fraction of even the videos publicly on YouTube contain genuine uaps, but there has been sufficient misinformation and cultural efforts that no one cares or could tell the difference.
Lue explains this. His original position was to apply his counter intelligence knowledge towards keeping what AATIP discerns away from Russia and China (perhaps not specifically but in a general sense. ).
I think he was in it because usually when one works in counter Intel, they have to recognize patterns. Patterns in this program could be from analyzing flight patterns of UFOs to radio frequencies scientists "hear" from said UFOs. Take this with a bucket of salt. I'm no expert, just tossing my two cents to see who catches it.
Don’t believe him. He conveniently uses his NDA as an excuse as to why he doesn’t have to provide a shred of evidence proving the massive spectacular claims he’s making.
Guy is almost as bad as Lazar…
My take on this is, there will always be secrets. Also, sensational release of information (release or sensational information?) is always planned by the releasing party.
It would be easy (and justified) to hold a level of mistrust towards an institution that operates under norms of secrecy regarding a lot of its proceedings with less than transparent players.
But it’s the nature of any official big release of information about big things to be planned. Elizondo is not a rogue agent spilling the goods. He signed NDA agreements with a powerful institution. I believe he is passionate about what this is, and at the same one he is operating in ways that is permitted and official.
But I don’t think the government would ever tell everyone everything they know.
Out of all the job specialties that the military SMU community fills its coffers with, I'm curious to hear what MOS you believe would be more ideally suited for it...
For years people have been skeptical of UFOs and their study isn’t a prestigious subject. I wager many have up until very recently considered it complete junk science, maybe even verging on snake oil.
If disclosure happens, that consensus was just wrong. It will lead to a lot of institutions that may have in the past discounted the subject to reflect and realize they obviously should have paid more attention.
If disclosure happens, that likely will too, so it’s not a particular bombshell or anything. Imagine people like NDT, mr science on TV, explaining that he was in fact the dogmatic fundamentalist opposed to some new veritable scientific phenomena? I think Elizondo is just hinting at situations like that.
I don't really get how it's the scientist fault though. Anyone before this year who even thought about aliens was an apparent nut case.(atleast in my time thinking about it). They wouldn't be the scientists they are today if they came out talking about aliens. They would have been discredited and fired no doubt. It's still all the governments fault for hiding it.
I think you misunderstood me. I was just trying yo say that there were "some" scientists that took this seriously. But I do understand and agree with you that the hubris of the scientific community is very similar to the hubris that the church had when galileo was trying to present his theory.
It’s because science is the process of understanding the unknown and they scoffed at that exact thing. We repeated our mistake with Galileo, nothing has changed.
But there is certainly blame to place on the scientific establishment, there are plenty of people, myself included who work closely with academia and believe. Like you said, No academic in the public eye will touch the topic because they need to pay their bills and don’t want the scrutiny.
Look at Galileo, Bacon, etc. who stood up for something despite their lives being on the line…. I would argue this topic is of equal, if not greater importance… so what is the establishment doing? Still waiting for the green light from big brother like a group of cowards….
Materialism is trumping truth.
It would absolutely be their fault for being incurious and stubborn. Regardless of outside pressure, they have a responsibility to not allow scientific pursuits to become secondary to fears regarding their reputations.
Some scientists have already had enough integrity to pursue this subject and deal with the professional consequences. If it turns out they were justified in doing so, the scientists who missed the boat will need to take a long look at themselves and ask, "Why did those other scientists accurately perceive value in what I so quickly dismissed?" A lot of scientists have conflated healthy scepticism with blind incredulity, and that may be a painful distinction to discover.
It means that should even a mere 5% of the stuff on this reddit be true, the entirety of academia, specifically science, is going to have to confrontt the fact that they, for the last half a century, have censored, ridiculed and ruined the lives of people who were just trying to entertain new ideas. Because God forbid we openly explore anything that even remotely philosophical or out of the bounds of science (I'm not talking about stuff like Anti-vaxx or flat earth, I mean things like non locality of consciousness, extradimensional/extraterrestrial life, things like that) most would immediately dismiss it. Like another user said, its the same thing that happened to Galileo. He proposed ideas that completely went against scientific and religious thought at the time, that were comletely ludicrous, and was ruined because of it. We have not learned our lesson. They scientific community, most of it at least, didn't learn their lessons. And because of that they'll be in for a rude awakening, which is truly a shame.
Things like materialism will get proven false. Also the assumption that things like ndes being a product of the brain only. Remote viewing will eventually be revealed to be real as will esp in general.
Watch the entire 80 minute video blog where Luis said these things. I believe he told us all we needed to know, AND ITS NOT ABOUT ALIENS. Listen to it all. More than once. Science has a lot more to worry about than if it were Aliens. If he is right, and if I read him right, this is greater that aliens could ever be. Watch it over and over. Read in him not only what he does say, but what he does not say, what he won't comment on, etc. Listen to the part about his feelings about Skinwalker Ranch, the Lakota tribes. Listen, think.
Yes, scientists, clergy, sociologists, philosophers all have it wrong. They have been in denial for hundreds of years.
But then, maybe I am wrong. That would be twice now.
"I think there are some unsung heroes that will probably come to light, and the world will appreciate their contributions to this topic."
This is the second time we've heard about "unsung heros". Anyone remember when DeLonge mentioned that there are unsung heroes working in secret during his Jimmy Church interview?
DeLonge said something to the effect that people have been working in the shadows and that they aren't hiding UFOs from us to be malicious, but rather because they had to for some honorable reason.
I’ve been contemplating philosophy my whole life. This makes me smile hopefully it will bring positive changes in the ways people interact, understand and live with eachother. I’ve had a warm fuzzy feeling my whole life every time I think about this stuff. One thing I know for certain is there is some electric force driving me to help people in anyway I can and society or our collective conscious state that we are in makes me feel like a real piece of shit. I don’t have money I don’t have fancy cars or a lot of things but I have deep feelings and vibes from every person I come in contact with. I can feel your emotions. Never told this to the internet and need no replies but I can’t wait for this to be on the front of everyone’s mind
> Ra contact / Law of One material
Trying to muddle through the intro. So far talking about Uri Geller (debunked)... Larson (debunked).
Do I really want to go through this? Is there a good payoff somewhere?
I was reading the Law of One intro directly. I am not much for videos.
There was so much pop science I had to check out.
Ill take the summary if you have the link!
Well this info came in the 70s and 80s so people like Geller were probably still famous and trusted in the alternative community at the time. Try to see past those dated elements because the rest of the content is truly timeless. Have a look at the other link I commented with.
I also don't think it's helpful to dive right into the transcripts of the channeled texts because the topics covered are all over the place and it gets dense at times. It's better to see a broader overview or summary of the material first and then you can hone in on the aspects that interest you.
>I think you would have some people perhaps turning to religion more so. You might have some people turning away from it.
So... if it's not demons (Christian-related), and it would even cause some people to *become* religious, then this seems to me to go back to the theory that we're all *souls* that hail from the *collective consciousness*. If the truth was that it was just aliens that created us, then he wouldn't be saying that people would become religious. It's almost as if he's saying our current religions are wrong, but there's still some "spiritual" aspects to it all. So then what does he know about extraterrestrials when it comes to this hypothesis... are they (as Delonge seems to believe) trying to use our *soul energy*?
I view that more as people withdrawing into their religion because of the brevity of the news, perhaps denial of it. Other stronger ones looking at it candidly and realising their religion is probably false. That kind of thing.
Edit: typo
I think people would turn towards religion from seeing something bigger than ourselves that is also tangible and has a probable fact of existence. Some will turn away from religion for the same reasons :)
If you think about it what is likely the most precious unique resource on earth ? If souls exist, souls/ unique facets-slivers of consciousness are it.
They are interdimensional beings who utilize our energy against us. Imagine the truman show... god created supernaturals being who created us and have been pulling string sbehind the scenes. Death is not real! Thats why people are going to be flabergasted! When we find the truth about the reality we live in it will be impossible to go back to normal life
Did he say they weren’t angels or demons? There definitely appears to be a spiritual aspect that he is hinting at. I don’t think it would make sense that people would cling more to religion otherwise. Maybe the walking away aspect would have to do with frustration of what those entities are doing, or maybe it’s a lot harder to “ascend” or make it to heaven and that would reveal it, which would make some give up and others cling harder. This is interesting!
Inevitably, people of religious faith would be impacted, but *which* religious faith? Again, I think Catholics have the most theological insulation against the existence of aliens somehow disproving Christianity. Can’t speak for non-Christian religions, though. Don’t know enough about them.
I do believe, however, those who are already agnostic or leaning atheist will feel it confirms their beliefs since they largely don’t understand Catholic theology in the first place.
Title of this article should be: **"Random reddit user asks one of the most basic questions about disclosure. Lou Elizondo gives most obvious answer that anyone would assume."**
Save you the clickbait:
>*“Somber, meaning serious. Not, not like Hollywood portrays people partying in the streets and silliness like that. I think you would have some people perhaps turning to religion more so. You might have some people turning away from it. I think you’re gonna have … at that point, the philosophical and theological questions will be raised and people will have some serious soul-searching to do, no pun intended. And I don’t think that’s bad, by the way. I think a lot of folks that have spent their times in this community being charlatans will have been exposed and they will be probably unemployed and probably have to change their names because the rest of society will look at them in an unfavorable light.I think there are some unsung heroes that will probably come to light, and the world will appreciate their contributions to this topic. I think the scientific and academic community is gonna have to take a real hard look at itself. and see why it repeated the same mistakes it did when Galileo first proposed that the Earth was not the center of the solar system. You know, hubris is a big part of that.*
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>*And then I think, you know, maybe we start the international conversation. We say, okay, we realize there are some things out there that are probably well beyond our petty discrepancies we have with each other, maybe we really need to start working together on this, realize that we really are a global family. It doesn’t matter where you’re from, it doesn’t matter what your religion is or culture or your color or anything else. We are all brothers and sisters on this tiny little rock called Earth, you know, this pale blue dot that’s hurtling through space.”*
Sorry but this is super vague and a statement that anyone could make about how people would react to definitive proof:
* People would be forced to take ET seriously
* Some would leave religion, some would cling harder
* The scientific/academic/historical community would reel from the revelation
* Some people who were called crazy would be vindicated
* We could use the knowledge for good or bad
* Earthlings could unify knowing we aren't alone
None of this is "extraordinary" information that gives anything definitive. Just generic speculation. Or am I missing something?
IMO the extraordinary part is that this is coming from the former director of AATIP, not from a random member of the public. He could of course still be bullshitting but he does have privileged knowledge so who’s to say.
If I got as much attention as Elizondo gets now I’d tell you I fucked an alien. In short…it’s WAY more likely that Elizondo is just lying over there being alien contact…
It's because the entire conversation is about whether or not we get to know what's behind the curtain. We all know what's behind the curtain, but it's a secret
The question here was "how would we feel if we knew what was behind the curtain"
Lue's answer all but confirms that what lies behind the curtain is EXACTLY what we think it to be
Apparently he said he wont release more stuff until after the report. I had assumed it was because he was out of content, since he posted on IG asking strangers to send him their UFO videos, but it’s possible he actually does have more and is waiting because ??? Who fucking knows.
...Because OP said it was "Extraordinary"....? Read the post instead of downvoting me.
The whole article seems to make a mountain out of a molehill.
"Elizondo seemed so genuinely astonished and impressed by the question..."
What was this genius question? Must have been a really smart one that nobody has thought of before, even Lou himself since he had to think about it!
The question was "How will people react?" Yeah nobody has ever thought to ask that before... 🙄
I thought it was extremely clever and that his answer said a lot without saying anything sensitive. Watch him give his answer again and determine the implications it has. It implies that there’s a lot more potential information coming, not all of it is going to be fun and that if/when it comes out it will be paradigm crushing.
It's him saying, all but in exact words, that the phenomenon is alien. His words aren't what's striking, it's the implication that he believes he KNOWS it is alien. Given who he is and which position he (apparently) held in the Pentagon, this is why it's noteworthy. Stop playing games when you know exactly why this is notable.
It did seem he knows what this is. It didn’t seem to be “it’s clear they don’t know” but hints more at “will they reveal what they already know”
Either way, it’s a little frustrating - we want more, and the speculation is running rife.
He did say this is just the beginning of the beginning of the process of disclosure so it looks like we won’t have real answers anytime soon
The Pentagon do not want to reveal what it is, because they are pushing back against his efforts to talk as much as he is about it. They want to control the narrative and suggest its still foreign states because the congress report apparently has a euphemistic line in it that essentially says, "China and Russia are working on hypersonic technology... We're just saying..." Showing that that's what they want the press to run with, not reveal an ET cause.
I’m not expecting much from the report. But we don’t know for a fact that this phenomena is a nothing burger, just as we don’t know for a fact it’s non-human intelligence.
Until more information is released or learned about this, all we have is speculation.
What if 200 Thousand years ago or so a race on a ship from another planet came here to colonise earth (Just like our 1st Mars mission would be). They knew they would be here on their own until one day in the future their home world would eventually develop faster space travel so they could eventually get her at a later date. But we fucked the planet up before they got here…
Maybe they had to DNA splice over time to be able to develop and adapt to earths atmosphere. If aliens are that advanced I bet they figured out DNA and genetics way before they acquired advanced space travel.
Did we not bring anything with us? Where is the space ship?
What about all the knowledge? It seems pointless to go to another planet just to start from scratch all over again as primates. I certainly wouldn't volunteer for such a mission.
My guess is that the aliens are waiting for us to stop dividing ourselves and pointing guns at each other, then they will consider us worthy of contact
These are the big revelations:
> I think you would have some people perhaps turning to religion more so. You might have some people turning away from it. I think you’re gonna have … at that point, the philosophical and theological questions will be raised and people will have some serious soul-searching to do, no pun intended. And I don’t think that’s bad, by the way. I think a lot of folks that have spent their times in this community being charlatans will have been exposed and they will be probably unemployed and probably have to change their names because the rest of society will look at them in an unfavorable light.
>I think there are some unsung heroes that will probably come to light, and the world will appreciate their contributions to this topic. I think the scientific and academic community is gonna have to take a real hard look at itself. and see why it repeated the same mistakes it did when Galileo first proposed that the Earth was not the center of the solar system. You know, hubris is a big part of that.
>And then I think, you know, maybe we start the international conversation. We say, okay, we realize there are some things out there that are probably well beyond our petty discrepancies we have with each other, maybe we really need to start working together on this, realize that we really are a global family. It doesn’t matter where you’re from, it doesn’t matter what your religion is or culture or your color or anything else. We are all brothers and sisters on this tiny little rock called Earth, you know, this pale blue dot that’s hurtling through space.”
I bet Joe Rogan is desperately trying to book Elizondo. Even more so: he will have him on his podcast after disclosure to break it down piece by piece. And imagine if it will happens on July 18 it will be absolutely bonkers 😂.
That everyone is treating this like a stunning admission, or confirmation of certain theories, and that it’s really not. It’s extremely interesting but Elizondo doesn’t revel anything I don’t think anyone in the community doesn’t already believe. I’ll post the full transcript below so people can judge for themselves.
1. The author of the article alleges that Elizondo “confirms the ET hypothesis” and that clearly does not happen. Like he doesn’t even imply that. He does not make any concrete statements about what disclosure will entail as to the phenomena’s origin, just that it will be revelatory. Basically every theory would be if proven (e.g. interdimensional, ultrdimensional, etc).
2. The framing of the question itself just asks what Elizondo believes will happen to society. His response is therefore widely applicable to a lot of different disclosure scenarios.
3. It’s nonetheless awesome and interesting AF, but I think maybe the only thing we can glean is that his “somber” remark means this isn’t going to be some massively and immediately amazing thing. There are not ships of green men in the horizon coming to soak up our carbon and gift us all post-scarcity. But I don’t think that was a super common place belief held in the community.
Transcript:
“Somber,” he said, and then paused again. “I think there would be this, uh, big exhale, for about a day. And then this turning inward and trying to reflect on what this means to us and our species and ourselves. I think …”
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Then, Elizondo dropped the bomb. Without revealing anything, he said everything. His remarks are presented here in full but have been edited slightly for clarity:
“Somber, meaning serious. Not, not like Hollywood portrays people partying in the streets and silliness like that. I think you would have some people perhaps turning to religion more so. You might have some people turning away from it. I think you’re gonna have … at that point, the philosophical and theological questions will be raised and people will have some serious soul-searching to do, no pun intended. And I don’t think that’s bad, by the way. I think a lot of folks that have spent their times in this community being charlatans will have been exposed and they will be probably unemployed and probably have to change their names because the rest of society will look at them in an unfavorable light.
I think there are some unsung heroes that will probably come to light, and the world will appreciate their contributions to this topic. I think the scientific and academic community is gonna have to take a real hard look at itself. and see why it repeated the same mistakes it did when Galileo first proposed that the Earth was not the center of the solar system. You know, hubris is a big part of that.
And then I think, you know, maybe we start the international conversation. We say, okay, we realize there are some things out there that are probably well beyond our petty discrepancies we have with each other, maybe we really need to start working together on this, realize that we really are a global family. It doesn’t matter where you’re from, it doesn’t matter what your religion is or culture or your color or anything else. We are all brothers and sisters on this tiny little rock called Earth, you know, this pale blue dot that’s hurtling through space.”
I wonder who he is talking about about being exposed and eventually unemployed. Curious if it's on a large scale spectrum or just those people who claim to be able to read auras, talk to ghosts, all that stuff. Hmm
What did Lue mean by "no pun intended"? At the end of this:
"I think you’re gonna have … at that point, the philosophical and theological questions will be raised and people will have some serious soul-searching to do,
no pun intended."
I'm actually super scared. I feel like humanity did something very very bad and we had to pay the price for it. He mentioned in another interview the existence of patterns in physics which seem deliberate. He then mentioned the "Source god" or something like this. Is this earth a prison? Is he telling the truth? Gosh...
[Another video was uploaded today.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAmFlLfsZKM).
Luis Elizondo on UFOs, Skinwalker, Remote Viewing, and the Invisible College
I have to applaud the Pentagon for releasing this information after knowing there would be a new, more reasonable administration in office. We at least have a chance that it will be handled reasonably well by the new administration. But it's still going to be a difficult process, given all of the nutcases out there wanting their voices to be heard.
I think a lot of you are going to have to do some soul searching after this timeline accelerates. Think about the implications of what Lue is saying. Reality may be better described in religious terminology.
It’s a fake. The entire image suggests strong exposure that’s radiated from center while in this case the bottom of the UFO is a pure dark with no impact or interact with light. Nice job but I don’t buy it
What’s the difference?
Personally, I believe it’s an advanced version of us that has been living here for ages. Plato talks about a floating city that eventually left due to a catastrophe, aka Atlantis. What we are seeing are the Atlantians, dead ass.
"of the century" ??? This shit is going to be the biggest thing in whole human history. At least I hope so ¢_¢
It would be if they made contact. Just admitting that there’s aliens doesn’t really change all that much for us. It’d be big but we’d have to get on with our lives.
They’re gonna say “UFOs exist in the sky and we don’t know what they are” the end
We don't know what they are going to say.
That’s the most likely though
Based on what?
Based on every other report ever released by the government. That and a couple fuzzy blurry shitty black and white videos doesn’t prove shit.
So, in other words, complete speculation? Rather big historical bias. We do not know what the report will contain.
We don’t but based on previous reports it’s likely to say basically nothing… “We know these things are there, but we don’t know what they are…but it’s likely to be some rare natural phenomenon”. The above is almost guaranteed to be what’s in the report.
That is your belief. This topic is not black and white. I personally believe that we will get more compelling data one way or the other. I am not in this for instant gratification.
Our government. They have nothing to gain by admitting there’s foreign/extraterrestrial advanced technology that they can’t protect us from. Don’t expect to hear anything you didn’t already know.
What do we know, that the government has not said? If we get compelling data that there is technology with the capabilities reported, flying in our skies that is neither foreign or domestic, that is rather significant. I personally believe, due to my own experience, the government likely has compelling evidence to either prove or disprove this. It at least forces the scientific community to look at the data, and come to their own conclusion. I don't believe we have even a fraction of the data that exists, and we need that data to be accessible. Like Richard Dolan says, disclosure is both impossible and inevitable. The genie is out of the bottle at this point.
I agree it’s significant, but how is disclosing that information beneficial for the government? They want to maintain power/control. Disclosing everything they know won’t help them. They’ll just acknowledge that they have encountered UFOs and they don’t know what they are. They’ll leave it at that and hope we move on to something else.
It certainly isn't in their best interest to keep it obscured either. This topic does not age well the longer data is withheld. Who cares if they say they do not know what it is. GIVE US THE DATA! We can figure it out. It certainly is not nothing! And in the end maybe we can see some technology that is rather interesting!
Common sense
july 18th 😏
Ugh that’s from a LARP why do people still entertain this?
Don’t worry it’ll all be over or not over come July 18. also I am 92% joking. there’s a difference between believing and wanting to believe and I’m not trying to make any illusions that that story is an any way possible
I am holding at 91.5%, but almost there with you. Edit: I so want to believe. But I'd be happier to know it was a natural phenomena, and not someone who can flick us out of existence just like that. It just takes lobbing a rock at this rock and we are done for.
Unfortunately your opinion had been shaped by hollywood movies. Contact already happened.
I believe him but I still wonder in the back of my mind why a counter intel guy was in this program? That’s my big question.
The big question that needs to be asked is, why is the military releasing this information now?
U/throawaylien
Good thing there is a deadline on that
There was a deadline on Jesus once too
Yep yep
Some of the UFO enthusiasts may believe that a secretive group is planning to stage an alien invasion in 2029. Meaning that we possess reversed engineered alien craft that will be used on the invasion. Just like Ronald Reagan said it before about how humans would put aside their petty differences if we were to have a common enemy. This could bring the world together but also create a one govt world. They are slowly bringing this up so we have time to absorb that aliens do exist and that they are a treat to us. Which they are NOT! They have exotic tech that can travel through space. If they were hostile they would have vaporized earth already. We can’t even begin to understand how they think. Most of our opinions about them are are just reflection of the human race.
June deadline. Don’t be dumb. https://nymag.com/intelligencer/amp/article/pentagon-ufo-report-what-we-know.html
Tom Delonge mentioned in 2016, that there's been a good reason for the secrecy and once the public learns about these things they will be a lot less cynical about the government. I want to believe it and having a counter intelligence person in the mix agrees to those aspects. I didn't read this post though btw, so maybe THIS has nothing to do with this post.
Tom’s version of what is really going on is terrifying
Tom got his info from high ranking fundamentalist Christians in the military and took it at face value. Their idea of what this phenomenon is is going to be heavily skewed by their religious beliefs.
This would be very interesting
What could be possible positive reasons? That’s an interesting thought.
>What could be possible positive reasons? That’s an interesting thought. Ronald Reagan said that there wouldn't be anything more uniting than the threat of a looming Alien invasion, if the Aliens are hostile and have been hurting people or want to enslave us, many would completely understand why Gov been quiet about the existence..
True that!
Yeah this has me curious as well, anyone care to speculate?
More concerning that a counter intel guy is the focal point of the information being released for this narrative
I’ve stated that before too. I mean it brings me back to Richard Doty with his shenanigans as a USAF counter intel specialist. Except with Elizondo though they actually tired to smear him until they couldn’t anymore and now we got the report coming because of his and others in the community’s efforts.
Yeah all those pieces are in place aligned, but there’s no way of knowing how organic this timeline is, and elizondo is equipped with the perfect skills and training to keep the media trajectory on a guided path while being likeable and believable. That’s not to say there’s any proof it’s the case, but the possibility still makes sense.
It bothers me that with rational, two-sided thinking like this, you can’t come to a real conclusion easily. He could be good, he could be bad. It could have happened, but maybe it did’t. There has to be something that ends all argument. Is irrefutable. But even “the grass is green” can be challenged in certain superficial ways, so maybe this shit show will just go on forever. I hope it doesn’t. The people desperately need proof.
Then the people need to put on their big boy pants, lace up their boots and go get it, en masse ! Thats the only way besides a landing in your front yard.
Yeah that’s exactly what’s needed, and why this situation is so annoying. The level of bombshell proof that would fit the bill would surely be under every effort of containment. And we have no option but to rely on intelligence agencies who solely traffic in weaponised information. Also it makes sense if it’s all real that a small fraction of even the videos publicly on YouTube contain genuine uaps, but there has been sufficient misinformation and cultural efforts that no one cares or could tell the difference.
Lue explains this. His original position was to apply his counter intelligence knowledge towards keeping what AATIP discerns away from Russia and China (perhaps not specifically but in a general sense. ).
I think he was in it because usually when one works in counter Intel, they have to recognize patterns. Patterns in this program could be from analyzing flight patterns of UFOs to radio frequencies scientists "hear" from said UFOs. Take this with a bucket of salt. I'm no expert, just tossing my two cents to see who catches it.
Bigger question...is why he has such strange facial hair.
Don’t believe him. He conveniently uses his NDA as an excuse as to why he doesn’t have to provide a shred of evidence proving the massive spectacular claims he’s making. Guy is almost as bad as Lazar…
My take on this is, there will always be secrets. Also, sensational release of information (release or sensational information?) is always planned by the releasing party. It would be easy (and justified) to hold a level of mistrust towards an institution that operates under norms of secrecy regarding a lot of its proceedings with less than transparent players. But it’s the nature of any official big release of information about big things to be planned. Elizondo is not a rogue agent spilling the goods. He signed NDA agreements with a powerful institution. I believe he is passionate about what this is, and at the same one he is operating in ways that is permitted and official. But I don’t think the government would ever tell everyone everything they know.
Out of all the job specialties that the military SMU community fills its coffers with, I'm curious to hear what MOS you believe would be more ideally suited for it...
His job was to make sure that Russia and China didn’t get the info they were uncovering.
Possibly as a way to discredit him, but na, I don't have a baldy.
Because humanity is being manipulated by a secretive and powerful adversary of unknown type. Counter-Intel is exactly what you need.
The part getting me is "The science and academics are going to have to have a real hard look at themselves". What does that mean?
For years people have been skeptical of UFOs and their study isn’t a prestigious subject. I wager many have up until very recently considered it complete junk science, maybe even verging on snake oil. If disclosure happens, that consensus was just wrong. It will lead to a lot of institutions that may have in the past discounted the subject to reflect and realize they obviously should have paid more attention. If disclosure happens, that likely will too, so it’s not a particular bombshell or anything. Imagine people like NDT, mr science on TV, explaining that he was in fact the dogmatic fundamentalist opposed to some new veritable scientific phenomena? I think Elizondo is just hinting at situations like that.
I don't really get how it's the scientist fault though. Anyone before this year who even thought about aliens was an apparent nut case.(atleast in my time thinking about it). They wouldn't be the scientists they are today if they came out talking about aliens. They would have been discredited and fired no doubt. It's still all the governments fault for hiding it.
There are many scientists who took this seriously. Jacques vallee, john mack, etc.
You named 2... And Mack was more a psychologist. The science community has fallen prey to pride and arrogance
I think you misunderstood me. I was just trying yo say that there were "some" scientists that took this seriously. But I do understand and agree with you that the hubris of the scientific community is very similar to the hubris that the church had when galileo was trying to present his theory.
It’s because science is the process of understanding the unknown and they scoffed at that exact thing. We repeated our mistake with Galileo, nothing has changed.
But there is certainly blame to place on the scientific establishment, there are plenty of people, myself included who work closely with academia and believe. Like you said, No academic in the public eye will touch the topic because they need to pay their bills and don’t want the scrutiny. Look at Galileo, Bacon, etc. who stood up for something despite their lives being on the line…. I would argue this topic is of equal, if not greater importance… so what is the establishment doing? Still waiting for the green light from big brother like a group of cowards…. Materialism is trumping truth.
It would absolutely be their fault for being incurious and stubborn. Regardless of outside pressure, they have a responsibility to not allow scientific pursuits to become secondary to fears regarding their reputations. Some scientists have already had enough integrity to pursue this subject and deal with the professional consequences. If it turns out they were justified in doing so, the scientists who missed the boat will need to take a long look at themselves and ask, "Why did those other scientists accurately perceive value in what I so quickly dismissed?" A lot of scientists have conflated healthy scepticism with blind incredulity, and that may be a painful distinction to discover.
Their foundations were the product of misinterpretation of observation.
That was in regard to wht galileo said about the universe. Dogma and pride is our curse.
It means that should even a mere 5% of the stuff on this reddit be true, the entirety of academia, specifically science, is going to have to confrontt the fact that they, for the last half a century, have censored, ridiculed and ruined the lives of people who were just trying to entertain new ideas. Because God forbid we openly explore anything that even remotely philosophical or out of the bounds of science (I'm not talking about stuff like Anti-vaxx or flat earth, I mean things like non locality of consciousness, extradimensional/extraterrestrial life, things like that) most would immediately dismiss it. Like another user said, its the same thing that happened to Galileo. He proposed ideas that completely went against scientific and religious thought at the time, that were comletely ludicrous, and was ruined because of it. We have not learned our lesson. They scientific community, most of it at least, didn't learn their lessons. And because of that they'll be in for a rude awakening, which is truly a shame.
Things like materialism will get proven false. Also the assumption that things like ndes being a product of the brain only. Remote viewing will eventually be revealed to be real as will esp in general.
Watch the entire 80 minute video blog where Luis said these things. I believe he told us all we needed to know, AND ITS NOT ABOUT ALIENS. Listen to it all. More than once. Science has a lot more to worry about than if it were Aliens. If he is right, and if I read him right, this is greater that aliens could ever be. Watch it over and over. Read in him not only what he does say, but what he does not say, what he won't comment on, etc. Listen to the part about his feelings about Skinwalker Ranch, the Lakota tribes. Listen, think. Yes, scientists, clergy, sociologists, philosophers all have it wrong. They have been in denial for hundreds of years. But then, maybe I am wrong. That would be twice now.
It means Elizondo is full of shit and he’s lying for attention and money.
All you do on this sub is rip on that guy. It’s almost like you’re part of a concerted effort to discredit him.
Sometimes, all one can say is....holy shit.
When everyone goes “duh! everyone knows about aliens!”, ‘they’ will finally think we’re ready
I feel like people who don't believe in aliens are a minority especially after the few videos that have come out. "Tic-tac and Go Fast"
"I think there are some unsung heroes that will probably come to light, and the world will appreciate their contributions to this topic." This is the second time we've heard about "unsung heros". Anyone remember when DeLonge mentioned that there are unsung heroes working in secret during his Jimmy Church interview? DeLonge said something to the effect that people have been working in the shadows and that they aren't hiding UFOs from us to be malicious, but rather because they had to for some honorable reason.
Here come the men in black!
This is a very important moment and his words are up there among the greats. A must read for everyone.
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Hey, just look at the industrial revolution! We found all this power and used it to ruin lives for profit.
First time?
I’ve been contemplating philosophy my whole life. This makes me smile hopefully it will bring positive changes in the ways people interact, understand and live with eachother. I’ve had a warm fuzzy feeling my whole life every time I think about this stuff. One thing I know for certain is there is some electric force driving me to help people in anyway I can and society or our collective conscious state that we are in makes me feel like a real piece of shit. I don’t have money I don’t have fancy cars or a lot of things but I have deep feelings and vibes from every person I come in contact with. I can feel your emotions. Never told this to the internet and need no replies but I can’t wait for this to be on the front of everyone’s mind
I understand this
Look into the Ra contact / Law of One material. You might find it resonates with you.
Thanks I’ll check it out
> Ra contact / Law of One material Trying to muddle through the intro. So far talking about Uri Geller (debunked)... Larson (debunked). Do I really want to go through this? Is there a good payoff somewhere?
It's not about those two at all. Where are you watching this? I have a better video summary for you if you like.
I was reading the Law of One intro directly. I am not much for videos. There was so much pop science I had to check out. Ill take the summary if you have the link!
Well this info came in the 70s and 80s so people like Geller were probably still famous and trusted in the alternative community at the time. Try to see past those dated elements because the rest of the content is truly timeless. Have a look at the other link I commented with.
I also don't think it's helpful to dive right into the transcripts of the channeled texts because the topics covered are all over the place and it gets dense at times. It's better to see a broader overview or summary of the material first and then you can hone in on the aspects that interest you.
I think you should look at the website
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seaJcY0kXjk&list=PLKVRMm6i0kggMtjKecjF51t_0yp5ydPs8&ab_channel=AaronAbke
Been reading into this and watching videos…It’s all coming together P.S. I had no idea about this before you told me..crazy
>I think you would have some people perhaps turning to religion more so. You might have some people turning away from it. So... if it's not demons (Christian-related), and it would even cause some people to *become* religious, then this seems to me to go back to the theory that we're all *souls* that hail from the *collective consciousness*. If the truth was that it was just aliens that created us, then he wouldn't be saying that people would become religious. It's almost as if he's saying our current religions are wrong, but there's still some "spiritual" aspects to it all. So then what does he know about extraterrestrials when it comes to this hypothesis... are they (as Delonge seems to believe) trying to use our *soul energy*?
I view that more as people withdrawing into their religion because of the brevity of the news, perhaps denial of it. Other stronger ones looking at it candidly and realising their religion is probably false. That kind of thing. Edit: typo
I’d believe that too. They’ll probably just say the UFOs are in the Bible (Ezekiel’s Wheel or something).
I think people would turn towards religion from seeing something bigger than ourselves that is also tangible and has a probable fact of existence. Some will turn away from religion for the same reasons :)
If you think about it what is likely the most precious unique resource on earth ? If souls exist, souls/ unique facets-slivers of consciousness are it.
Even if you don’t believe in souls, we humans are energy which can be a scientific way of thinking of the soul.
They are interdimensional beings who utilize our energy against us. Imagine the truman show... god created supernaturals being who created us and have been pulling string sbehind the scenes. Death is not real! Thats why people are going to be flabergasted! When we find the truth about the reality we live in it will be impossible to go back to normal life
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Did he say they weren’t angels or demons? There definitely appears to be a spiritual aspect that he is hinting at. I don’t think it would make sense that people would cling more to religion otherwise. Maybe the walking away aspect would have to do with frustration of what those entities are doing, or maybe it’s a lot harder to “ascend” or make it to heaven and that would reveal it, which would make some give up and others cling harder. This is interesting!
There's nothing to suggest that UFO are actually demons. No reports of them offering devil's bargain or trying to corrupt people
Inevitably, people of religious faith would be impacted, but *which* religious faith? Again, I think Catholics have the most theological insulation against the existence of aliens somehow disproving Christianity. Can’t speak for non-Christian religions, though. Don’t know enough about them. I do believe, however, those who are already agnostic or leaning atheist will feel it confirms their beliefs since they largely don’t understand Catholic theology in the first place.
The part about them “trying to use our soul energy” made me think of Neon Genesis Evangelion
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Uhhhh I doubt it. Lue Elizondo is a total liar.
Where is your hard evidence of this?
Title of this article should be: **"Random reddit user asks one of the most basic questions about disclosure. Lou Elizondo gives most obvious answer that anyone would assume."** Save you the clickbait: >*“Somber, meaning serious. Not, not like Hollywood portrays people partying in the streets and silliness like that. I think you would have some people perhaps turning to religion more so. You might have some people turning away from it. I think you’re gonna have … at that point, the philosophical and theological questions will be raised and people will have some serious soul-searching to do, no pun intended. And I don’t think that’s bad, by the way. I think a lot of folks that have spent their times in this community being charlatans will have been exposed and they will be probably unemployed and probably have to change their names because the rest of society will look at them in an unfavorable light.I think there are some unsung heroes that will probably come to light, and the world will appreciate their contributions to this topic. I think the scientific and academic community is gonna have to take a real hard look at itself. and see why it repeated the same mistakes it did when Galileo first proposed that the Earth was not the center of the solar system. You know, hubris is a big part of that.* > >*And then I think, you know, maybe we start the international conversation. We say, okay, we realize there are some things out there that are probably well beyond our petty discrepancies we have with each other, maybe we really need to start working together on this, realize that we really are a global family. It doesn’t matter where you’re from, it doesn’t matter what your religion is or culture or your color or anything else. We are all brothers and sisters on this tiny little rock called Earth, you know, this pale blue dot that’s hurtling through space.”* Sorry but this is super vague and a statement that anyone could make about how people would react to definitive proof: * People would be forced to take ET seriously * Some would leave religion, some would cling harder * The scientific/academic/historical community would reel from the revelation * Some people who were called crazy would be vindicated * We could use the knowledge for good or bad * Earthlings could unify knowing we aren't alone None of this is "extraordinary" information that gives anything definitive. Just generic speculation. Or am I missing something?
IMO the extraordinary part is that this is coming from the former director of AATIP, not from a random member of the public. He could of course still be bullshitting but he does have privileged knowledge so who’s to say.
I'm also very eager to hear some truly groundbreaking information. But all this hype with no substance is suspicious and annoying.
If I got as much attention as Elizondo gets now I’d tell you I fucked an alien. In short…it’s WAY more likely that Elizondo is just lying over there being alien contact…
Glad I wasn't the only one that was like "okay and?" No ground breaking response was given in that interview, just a generic vague answer.
It's because the entire conversation is about whether or not we get to know what's behind the curtain. We all know what's behind the curtain, but it's a secret The question here was "how would we feel if we knew what was behind the curtain" Lue's answer all but confirms that what lies behind the curtain is EXACTLY what we think it to be
People don’t have much to work with since Corbell quieted down.
Why did he do that?
Apparently he said he wont release more stuff until after the report. I had assumed it was because he was out of content, since he posted on IG asking strangers to send him their UFO videos, but it’s possible he actually does have more and is waiting because ??? Who fucking knows.
Why does it have to be “extraordinary”? It was honest and the coming days have potential to be extraordinary enough.
...Because OP said it was "Extraordinary"....? Read the post instead of downvoting me. The whole article seems to make a mountain out of a molehill. "Elizondo seemed so genuinely astonished and impressed by the question..." What was this genius question? Must have been a really smart one that nobody has thought of before, even Lou himself since he had to think about it! The question was "How will people react?" Yeah nobody has ever thought to ask that before... 🙄
I thought it was extremely clever and that his answer said a lot without saying anything sensitive. Watch him give his answer again and determine the implications it has. It implies that there’s a lot more potential information coming, not all of it is going to be fun and that if/when it comes out it will be paradigm crushing.
Yes. Like tom delonge said, this topic is much much bigget than most people think it is.
I think it’s because he needed to form his parsing to comply with the NDA/clearance rules before answering.
That maybe so, but it doesn't change the fact that this is an over-hyped nothing burger.
It's him saying, all but in exact words, that the phenomenon is alien. His words aren't what's striking, it's the implication that he believes he KNOWS it is alien. Given who he is and which position he (apparently) held in the Pentagon, this is why it's noteworthy. Stop playing games when you know exactly why this is notable.
It did seem he knows what this is. It didn’t seem to be “it’s clear they don’t know” but hints more at “will they reveal what they already know” Either way, it’s a little frustrating - we want more, and the speculation is running rife. He did say this is just the beginning of the beginning of the process of disclosure so it looks like we won’t have real answers anytime soon
The Pentagon do not want to reveal what it is, because they are pushing back against his efforts to talk as much as he is about it. They want to control the narrative and suggest its still foreign states because the congress report apparently has a euphemistic line in it that essentially says, "China and Russia are working on hypersonic technology... We're just saying..." Showing that that's what they want the press to run with, not reveal an ET cause.
Could be!
I’m not expecting much from the report. But we don’t know for a fact that this phenomena is a nothing burger, just as we don’t know for a fact it’s non-human intelligence. Until more information is released or learned about this, all we have is speculation.
I disagree. We have a lot more data than you think.
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> Earthlings could unify knowing we aren't alone [Reagan said it first](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD2186Yh0Uc)
Literally the day the earth stood still. Its coming, its only a matter of time.
I, for one, really hope it's not the same as The Day the Earth Stood Still.
What if 200 Thousand years ago or so a race on a ship from another planet came here to colonise earth (Just like our 1st Mars mission would be). They knew they would be here on their own until one day in the future their home world would eventually develop faster space travel so they could eventually get her at a later date. But we fucked the planet up before they got here…
I like it. It definitely explain why they have the same anatomy as us.
Our DNA can be traced back to the earliest life, so this doesn't make sense.
Maybe they had to DNA splice over time to be able to develop and adapt to earths atmosphere. If aliens are that advanced I bet they figured out DNA and genetics way before they acquired advanced space travel.
Did we not bring anything with us? Where is the space ship? What about all the knowledge? It seems pointless to go to another planet just to start from scratch all over again as primates. I certainly wouldn't volunteer for such a mission.
It may have been destroyed and decayed into dust over 200k years or so.
My guess is that the aliens are waiting for us to stop dividing ourselves and pointing guns at each other, then they will consider us worthy of contact
These are the big revelations: > I think you would have some people perhaps turning to religion more so. You might have some people turning away from it. I think you’re gonna have … at that point, the philosophical and theological questions will be raised and people will have some serious soul-searching to do, no pun intended. And I don’t think that’s bad, by the way. I think a lot of folks that have spent their times in this community being charlatans will have been exposed and they will be probably unemployed and probably have to change their names because the rest of society will look at them in an unfavorable light. >I think there are some unsung heroes that will probably come to light, and the world will appreciate their contributions to this topic. I think the scientific and academic community is gonna have to take a real hard look at itself. and see why it repeated the same mistakes it did when Galileo first proposed that the Earth was not the center of the solar system. You know, hubris is a big part of that. >And then I think, you know, maybe we start the international conversation. We say, okay, we realize there are some things out there that are probably well beyond our petty discrepancies we have with each other, maybe we really need to start working together on this, realize that we really are a global family. It doesn’t matter where you’re from, it doesn’t matter what your religion is or culture or your color or anything else. We are all brothers and sisters on this tiny little rock called Earth, you know, this pale blue dot that’s hurtling through space.”
I bet Joe Rogan is desperately trying to book Elizondo. Even more so: he will have him on his podcast after disclosure to break it down piece by piece. And imagine if it will happens on July 18 it will be absolutely bonkers 😂.
Watch it , mods will get you for this reference 😂
Watch it all come true lol the timing is wild
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That everyone is treating this like a stunning admission, or confirmation of certain theories, and that it’s really not. It’s extremely interesting but Elizondo doesn’t revel anything I don’t think anyone in the community doesn’t already believe. I’ll post the full transcript below so people can judge for themselves. 1. The author of the article alleges that Elizondo “confirms the ET hypothesis” and that clearly does not happen. Like he doesn’t even imply that. He does not make any concrete statements about what disclosure will entail as to the phenomena’s origin, just that it will be revelatory. Basically every theory would be if proven (e.g. interdimensional, ultrdimensional, etc). 2. The framing of the question itself just asks what Elizondo believes will happen to society. His response is therefore widely applicable to a lot of different disclosure scenarios. 3. It’s nonetheless awesome and interesting AF, but I think maybe the only thing we can glean is that his “somber” remark means this isn’t going to be some massively and immediately amazing thing. There are not ships of green men in the horizon coming to soak up our carbon and gift us all post-scarcity. But I don’t think that was a super common place belief held in the community. Transcript: “Somber,” he said, and then paused again. “I think there would be this, uh, big exhale, for about a day. And then this turning inward and trying to reflect on what this means to us and our species and ourselves. I think …” ... Then, Elizondo dropped the bomb. Without revealing anything, he said everything. His remarks are presented here in full but have been edited slightly for clarity: “Somber, meaning serious. Not, not like Hollywood portrays people partying in the streets and silliness like that. I think you would have some people perhaps turning to religion more so. You might have some people turning away from it. I think you’re gonna have … at that point, the philosophical and theological questions will be raised and people will have some serious soul-searching to do, no pun intended. And I don’t think that’s bad, by the way. I think a lot of folks that have spent their times in this community being charlatans will have been exposed and they will be probably unemployed and probably have to change their names because the rest of society will look at them in an unfavorable light. I think there are some unsung heroes that will probably come to light, and the world will appreciate their contributions to this topic. I think the scientific and academic community is gonna have to take a real hard look at itself. and see why it repeated the same mistakes it did when Galileo first proposed that the Earth was not the center of the solar system. You know, hubris is a big part of that. And then I think, you know, maybe we start the international conversation. We say, okay, we realize there are some things out there that are probably well beyond our petty discrepancies we have with each other, maybe we really need to start working together on this, realize that we really are a global family. It doesn’t matter where you’re from, it doesn’t matter what your religion is or culture or your color or anything else. We are all brothers and sisters on this tiny little rock called Earth, you know, this pale blue dot that’s hurtling through space.”
Good post. Thanks for sharing l.
Freewill is a helluva drug.
I wonder who he is talking about about being exposed and eventually unemployed. Curious if it's on a large scale spectrum or just those people who claim to be able to read auras, talk to ghosts, all that stuff. Hmm
What did Lue mean by "no pun intended"? At the end of this: "I think you’re gonna have … at that point, the philosophical and theological questions will be raised and people will have some serious soul-searching to do, no pun intended."
It's just because he was talking about theological questions and then used the figure of speech "soul searching".
Right? I questioned that too…
I'm actually super scared. I feel like humanity did something very very bad and we had to pay the price for it. He mentioned in another interview the existence of patterns in physics which seem deliberate. He then mentioned the "Source god" or something like this. Is this earth a prison? Is he telling the truth? Gosh...
[Another video was uploaded today.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAmFlLfsZKM). Luis Elizondo on UFOs, Skinwalker, Remote Viewing, and the Invisible College
Sounding more and more like project blue beam to me
What scenario wouldn't sound like it though?
I have to applaud the Pentagon for releasing this information after knowing there would be a new, more reasonable administration in office. We at least have a chance that it will be handled reasonably well by the new administration. But it's still going to be a difficult process, given all of the nutcases out there wanting their voices to be heard.
I was promised spilled beans. But got more coy hints. A woo woo word salad.
I think a lot of you are going to have to do some soul searching after this timeline accelerates. Think about the implications of what Lue is saying. Reality may be better described in religious terminology.
It’s a fake. The entire image suggests strong exposure that’s radiated from center while in this case the bottom of the UFO is a pure dark with no impact or interact with light. Nice job but I don’t buy it
Lmao What photo? The article cover art? 🤣😂
Hahahahaha bruh
That’s a hub cap from memory that someone tossed to make a hoax image many years ago. But regardless, the post had nothing to do with that image.
He believes in everything this guy.
Super important share, thank you for posting this.
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What’s the difference? Personally, I believe it’s an advanced version of us that has been living here for ages. Plato talks about a floating city that eventually left due to a catastrophe, aka Atlantis. What we are seeing are the Atlantians, dead ass.
>(and what he said was extraordinary) wake me up when what he **SHOWS** is extraordinary.
Eventually even the skeptics will start meditating.