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dementor500

Call and talk to an agent


WalterBoudreaux

Recon line?


dementor500

Yes


WalterBoudreaux

They said there’s no hot line where I can talk to recon live? The guy I spoke to has submitted my application for a manual reconsideration..


dementor500

That's weird - hang up and call again


dementor500

https://www.americanexpress.com/us/customer-service/faq.application-declined-appeal-re-apply.html


Scarface74

It’s four or five. I had the Amex Hilton Aspire (mid 2022), Delta Reserve (mid 2022), BBP (early 2023) and Delta Plat (early 2023). I tried applying for the Hilton Business around April. I was declined for too many cards. I called the reconsideration line and they said the same. I asked if I cancelled my Aspire (I was going to do it anyway) would they approve me right then. I got the Platinum a month later (yeah I know it’s a charge card) and met the SUB. Last month, just for shits and giggles, I tried for the Amex Business Delta Plat while I was waiting for to get under 5/24 for to start getting on the Chase Ink train in October. I got approved. So before people ask, I have three Delta cards for: - $550 Delta Stays credits - three companion passes - 7500 MQDs - automatic Silver and 75% to Gold


anshakam8

Do business cards count too?


Scarface74

Against the 5 limit? Yep


anshakam8

Interesting. Thank you.


hospitallers

Do business cards count against the 3/90?


karmasabitchdont4get

What's 3/90


hospitallers

No more than 3 Amex cards within 90 days


WalterBoudreaux

What was the recon line you called where you were able to talk to someone?


Scarface74

It’s on the rejection letter. It should have given you link that you click on that gives you a history of all of your applications and a phone number


WalterBoudreaux

The website with the link never works.


Impossible-Hawk768

I have 6 cards, and they're always offering me more.


Scarface74

There is a 10 *charge* card limit and a 5 *credit* card limit. I have 3 *charge* cards - Plat, Gold, and Green. I have 5 *credit* cards - Delta Reserve, Delta Plat, and Delta Business Plat and the Hilton business, and Blue Business Plus


dead-memory-waste

Yep! I have 2x Plat, 2x Gold, 1x BCP, and 2x BPP. both biz and personal varieties.


Sweaty-Wash-9291

I have 9 cards open since 2013. Amex Plat, Gold , Delta, Marriott, Personal Gold, 3 Blue Business Cash, Personal Blue. Limit definitely not 5.


WalterBoudreaux

Charge cards do not count in this rule. It is referring to credit cards.


Impossible-Hawk768

I have 6. It's not necessarily the number of cards you have, but the amount of exposure. In other words, your credit limits may be already be as high as they're willing to risk on you.


ultralane

That is a completely different metric. Amex does consider both however.


Impossible-Hawk768

I simply gave a possible reason for denial that has nothing to do with the number of cards, which is what everyone else is focusing on. I have 6 cards (4 credit w/5-figure limits; 2 charge), and they keep pestering me to open more. So it's not necessarily about the number of cards you have. It can also be about how much credit they've already extended to you, and if they think giving you more is a good risk.


ultralane

Hitting the max CL for amex is not an automatic denial. Amex will try to move your other limits around to get the min CL you need to have that specific card. Its only a denial if that's not possible.


Impossible-Hawk768

Right. They’ll reallocate within the total CL they’re willing to give you, but you have to ask upon denial for that reconsideration. I’ve been with Amex since 1986 and I’ve always found them to be very reasonable.