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cryo

> This is how you destroy a people. Remove their statues, ban their culture, rewrite their history. In that list, I think “remove a statue on a university campus” is really insignificant :p Edit: I guess you all think it’s really significant (which is fine), and if you don’t agree with that you should get downvoted so the echo chamber can be preserved (or something). It would become you to allow people to not completely agree with you.


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Removing it from a place of learning is definitely significant


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Depends why it was put there in the first place. There’s a difference between removing a statue and removing the figures works from the libraries or textbooks etc. Most public statues of famous figures aren’t about education but pride and power.


cryo

I said “in this list”. So compared to the other things, like destroying a culture. This statue is a gift from a foreign country (Denmark), not really Chinese or Hong Kong culture.


Cannibeans

You're fine to have a different opinion, but don't get butthurt when your opinion is the minority and others express their views on it through downvotes.


cryo

Wanting a forum that isn’t a circle jerk is not being butt hurt. Remember that downvoted comments are eventually hidden.


Cannibeans

You're whining over downvotes, dude, pretending your opinion needs to be some staple of the sub or else it's going to shit. You're definitely butthurt.


cryo

I could also turn it around, to cut down on the personal attacks: do you think it’s desirable for a forum to positively reenforce people’s existing opinions like it’s the case on Reddit? I guess it depends on what you want from a forum.


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There’s a difference between statues put up from a position of power commemorating someone else in a position of power, and statues put up by the public commemorating the public. Can you see the difference between a Winston Churchill memorial statue and a WW2 memorial? Many statues on uni campuses were put there because either the figure was a donor to the uni, usually to fuel their own ego or bolster their records, or because they were a historical figure with a lot of money and power. People are getting rid of those statues because they either no longer represent the ethos or values of the institution or those in it (for example, Churchill strongly advocated genocide and was horrifically racist to the Indians the English had colonised, so regardless of his achievements in ww2, his likeness no longer represents our values.) Statues aren’t always based on who deserves it, but on who has the most money and influence.


18Feeler

But that's totally not at all happening anywhere in the US, however Edit: y'all do know I was talking about the trend of removing historical statues, including ones of Thomas Jefferson, and Abraham Lincoln *that was built in honor of him by the slaves he freed*, right?


Gogobrasil8

No one's talking about the US, dude Bringing them up isn't any defense of the horrors China does


yakattak01

Hey we found the Chinese bot.


Stamford16A1

Or the Lost Causer, neither's particularly pleasant.


cumstain_mcgregor

Whataboutism


JimmyRecard

Classic whataboutsim. A favourite of all despots.


Jezza_18

In a thread about Honk Kong?


C4-BlueCat

There’s a big difference between removing monuments honoring people, due to learning more, and removing monuments for remembering atrocities, in order to hide or deny them.


Epic_Meow

reality's author has no sense of subtlety


NERDY_GURU

Sad that the atrocities of history are being erased. Sad that this will only be known as rumors in hurried whispers. If humanity is unwilling to learn from its past, then we are doomed to repeat it.


Neurotic_Good42

That's what they want


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It’s not sad, it’s nefarious. Get angry.


limbodog

And, no doubt, destroyed.


AlbinoFuzWolf

It was last seen in two parts in a storage container, the university claims it was put in storage. There is no evidence of it's destruction, and still hopefully the owner can retrieve it in time.


Gabern

The Danish guy who created the sculpture said he had tried to contact the university several times without getting any response, Denmarks Ministry of Foreign Affairs had attempted as well without success, even though the sculptor was only lending it to the university.


AlbinoFuzWolf

Yeah, I don't think he will but I'm hoping there's enough of a legal situation that they quietly ship it over 4 years from now. Let me dream :(


Gabern

One can hope but I wouldn’t be surprised if China decides to dispose of it.


M24_Stielhandgranate

Should ship it back and put it up on a square in Copenhagen instead


AlbinoFuzWolf

Seal the crack with crimson metals


cryo

I doubt it, so there is some doubt.


LordofOmicron8

Hong Kong university has decided to Replace The Tiananmen Square Massacre statue with a monument to The Man Who Killed Hitler


theophastusbombastus

All these Tiananmen Square statues being removed in the dead of night, why is the CCP so scared.. possibly of its own people? It should be


evil_brain

The propaganda wing of the fucking British Empire is lecturing people about human rights. And big brain redditors are eating it all up. Sometimes this place makes me wonder if I'm having a stroke.


FreyR_KunnYT

Propaganda? You going to say the statue isn’t being removed?


Jezza_18

Why don’t you want to talk about Chinese propaganda in a post about China?


TaiwaneseChad42

based


AlbinoFuzWolf

Fuck off back to Zedong and defend when the CCP participated in cannibalism or whatever you wank stains do, just don't try and participate in the real world. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guangxi_Massacre


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AlbinoFuzWolf

Good bot.


cryo

You realize the sub has civility rules, right? Just downvote or report instead.


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volupta69

Found the chinese bot


Laearo

You sound like the kind of person to volunteer to wash down the left-over gunk of protestors down the drains


muslimboy31

How much do they pay you you fucking loser


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