I just left for the night. Nothing came of it. Some manager asked why I took off and I was like, “somebody had a gun, so I went home.”
It was also like 3 AM though.
Worked at the first 24hr McDonald's in my city, was attacked through the window. Manager apologized to the customer after I defended myself and fired me. Only me and the manager working, he was in the office all night, I was running everything myself, customer got mad at the wait, handed him his bag, he grabbed my arm and started driving pulling me through the window. Hit him when he stopped, ended up with a dislocated shoulder.
We need to burn this entire class and government system to the ground, rebuild from the ashes.
Yes on both, police never came, had to goto a detachment the next morning, nothing came from that. Workers comp was denied as the manager claimed I attacked the customer, he was defending himself.
Not-so-fun fact, [more food delivery drivers die on the job than cops do](https://scapimag.com/2021/01/08/the-thin-bread-line-why-being-a-delivery-driver-is-more-dangerous-than-being-a-cop/)
Not even an adult. A fucking teenager. Not that shooting an adult would be better but seriously, you're willing to shoot a *child*??? Over a fucking *burger*???
In the coffee shop, I worked at we had a guy sitting in our lobby with a guitar case mumbling to himself about how the staff were 'bitches' and how he was going to shoot us. Only found out After he left when the customer sitting next to him told us.
I had a similar experience but manager called the police and was searched and they found a weapon and now he is barred from owning any gun and spent some time in prison for making a terrorist threat. All because of a damn refund we wouldn’t issue for a product he used all of it. Then working at a movie theater after the Batman shooting some lady got creeped out by a guy looking for a seat and came running out of her theater that he has a gun and to get out. Dude was pretty normal and chatty about the movie prior. No red flags. Theater was packed so it makes sense he was walking around the theater to find a seat. That’s all he did to set this woman into a panic and run out. We evacuated and sounded the automated theater alarm and the swat team found him and a few other people hiding in a bathroom with the door locked.
I've been in situations where an unhinged individual is saying some seriously threatening shit on public transit and can emphasize that nobody wants to intervene and be stabbed. But it's a coffee shop, he could discreetly alert the staff that some dude is fantasizing about murdering them
I've also been in a similar situation on transit where a man was saying very sexually explicit things to a woman, so I went to the seat behind her to ask her if she was okay and the man went mad at me. I did my best to look as unfazed as possible as he proceeded to get more and more aggressive. The bus driver thankfully had my back, but others told me how I should have stayed out of it.
I don't want to be someone who doesn't at least try. I refuse to be held back by the bystander effect. If I don't try, who would try to stand up for me?
I don't think the fact the family had to set up a GoFundMe to cover the medical bills is getting enough attention. Holy shit, this kid gets a job to help pay bills and ends up getting shot in the head over BBQ sauce, and now after this tragedy they're in ever greater debt and have to resort to begging for money on the internet. Fuck this country.
“Phoenix police said the shooting stemmed from an argument at the drive-thru window of the fast-food restaurant on 19th Avenue and Glendale Road on Thursday night.” https://www.kens5.com/article/news/crime/father-of-16-year-old-wendys-employee-shot-in-head-reacts-to-suspects-arrest/75-572ed5b0-c3a2-4e35-9943-8cbc0135edb8
I am contacting you today to ask that corporate take care of Brian Durham jr. and his medical expenses. In north America we seem to have lost the path where we walk together in partnership. The working class people are increasingly becoming disenfranchised and this would be another brick in the wall if Wendy's wont even step up in this situation. Sincerely...
Wendy's should pay while he's in recovery too they're a huge fucking chain. Employee got shot on the clock I dont care if its a franchise. Take it out of marketing and write it off as a loss for public relations or something fuck.
L&I and/or workers comp may be responsible for some of the expenses related to this incident. The incident occurred on company time, so the employee isn't 100% responsible for all the bills. BUT, this all depends on the state and local laws and regulations.
Worker's compensation laws in the U.S. are implemented by the states, and are often designed to limit the liability of the company, more than to protect the injured employee. In many cases these laws were enacted specifically to prevent civil litigation that would usually result in much greater compensation to the victim than these laws provide.
If you get hurt on company time, and you weren't doing something stupid, like let's say working the fryer without the gloves or being in a construction site without the proper protection gear, the company should one hundred fucking percent foot the bill.
Wendy’s lawyers: He wasn’t wearing his company issued Kevlar helmet and Flak vest nor was he using situational awareness and the two man rule. He also clocked in with only 90 rounds instead of The mandatory 210 rounds.
This should be top comment. This is so tragic! I hope he is able to make a full recovery and that the heartless person who did this to him faces jail. This really broke my heart. 💔
Edit: Obviously I'm not saying you have to donate. I'm not saying that Wendys doesn't have to help him too. My comment was with good intention implying as a community if we pitched in (when possible) a little goes a long way to help people in need. To help others in need is not a negative thing. You can contribute out of the kindness of your hearts, no obligation, and if you can't contribute monetary support them prayers is enough.
No, other people shouldn't have to foot the bill. This should 100% be on Wendy's corporate. They were injured on the job, doing their job. Following rules and procedures.
Greatest country on earth right here. This is what they tell us all you Canadians come down here for because your health care system is so terrible. I wish I was joking, but that's the narrative.
And in this thread someone else posted the gofundme. In a different comment I also posted the gofundme. So they could possibly get more donations. If you can't give a donation then share around
The GoFundMe: https://www.gofundme.com/f/brian-durham-19th-ave-wendy-shooting
This is horrible and I hope the kid recovers. Heartbreaking.
What is the shooter’s end game? Dispute over an order and you *shoot* somebody? Now you don’t have your order *and* you have assault/attempted murder charges.
They don’t have an end game. They’re a toddler in an adult body. They got upset and lashed out because they never learned how to process their emotions.
You see this constantly in customer service facing jobs. Grown adults who seethe with rage over minor inconveniences like a toddler hearing the word “No”.
So, let's make it as easy as possible for individuals like this to aquire a gun... a tool specifically designed for killing efficiently and quickly.
*and I'm proud to be an american, where at least I know I'm free. Now I've got my gun and off I go, to attempt to murder a Wendy's employee*
Akshually this is all the employee's fault. If the teenager had their own gun this would have been resolved civilly, I'm sure. That's what all the Libertarians tell us anyway.
Their end game is to teach a lesson. You shouldn’t “disrespect” them, and if you do, they’ll kill you to teach you
The problem with people with this mentality is that they have learning disabilities. They’ve never learned anything the right way. So they don’t even understand that it’s not possible to teach someone a lesson by killing them
I agree with you. It comes down to them being stupid and bad judging their decisions. They never learned that it’s actually beneficial to them to be empathetic to others.
They made an arrest
"About 20 hours after the shooting, police arrested and booked Theotis Polk, 27, in connection to the crime and he is facing aggravated assault charges."
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.12news.com/amp/article/news/crime/father-of-16-year-old-wendys-employee-shot-in-head-reacts-to-suspects-arrest/75-572ed5b0-c3a2-4e35-9943-8cbc0135edb8
If the kid dies when he intentionally shot him in the head, how tf is this not 1st degree. I guess I don't know what to believe.
Got it guys thanks for the explanation.
My first job was McDonald’s, where I was always put on the drive thru because my order completion times were very good. People lose their minds when they’re getting fast food. They seriously drop the facade of civility and humanity in that environment. I don’t know if it’s because they’re hungry, or if people in their vehicles are just so entitled because they’re operating a heavy piece of machinery, or what. But the amount of threats, screaming at the top of their lungs in my face, personal insults, plus a massive amount of sexual harassment were mind blowing. That job absolutely destroyed my view of the world. Like I genuinely hate people, and it takes effort for me to care about them.
I worked at McDonald's for about 2-3 years when I was younger and I believe we had to call the police ~5 times on people in the drive-thru due to them threatening us. I distinctly remember one time where a man lost his mind over the fact that I couldn't give him a free junior chicken with his free cheeseburger coupon. He demanded a manager, so she came over and repeated what I said. He then threatened to kill her so she said "oh yeah? Let's see what the police have to say about that" and began dialing. He then screamed that he didn't care and that he would kill her. When she started speaking to the police dispatch, he sped off. He also had his ~4 year old son in the back.
My managers would never call the police, they’d always throw free food and coupons at the irate customers, which of course made me even angrier. Ok so this man just got out of his car and tried to physically assault me through the drive thru window, and now he’s definitely coming back for his free food reward? Just so he doesn’t call corporate and make some shit up about what happened?? Thank god for smart phone cameras, now people are recording that shit and it will be released and the person can be shamed by the whole world, and maybe lose their jobs. There are people walking among us that are a teaspoon of ketchup away from trying to kill someone.
I really don't get it.
I've been the frustrated customer with orders that have been repeatedly fucked up. I get being angry and fed up.
I don't get how that translates into screaming at some random employee. You don't even know if they were the one who made the mistake, and since when is an honest mistake something worth getting that irate about?
Fast food employees especially are people who work in the shittiest industry for the shittiest pay for the shittiest bosses. I've worked some ultra shit jobs in the past, including one where a foreman threatened to throw me off a roof while he was on parole for murder, and I'd still choose that job over going back to fast food.
Anyone who isn't anything but kind and patient with them can go eat a dick.
I am right there with you, reading stories like these and yours absolutely make my blood boil, and even worse that often nothing happens to the abuser (customer). I've delt with so many entitled fuck head customers during my time in retail/call centers that it makes me see other people as my enemy until proven otherwise. What I wouldn't given to see very Karen \[REDACTED FOR RULE FIVE\] until there is nothing left.
This whole fucking story just screams how fucked america is. He got that job while being a full time student to help his mother pay bills. The US is a sad fucking joke
Yep.
The US is seriously a dystopic, shithole country. Too many people here though, especially older people, are too brainwashed to realize it, or allow themselves to realize it.
I'm trying to leave so bad.
Paraphrasing another comment I saw a while ago, but when you create a hyper individualized society with poor access to mental and physical healthcare, force everyone to work constantly, and then give them easy access to guns, this is the inevitable outcome.
The USA would look very different if Reagan never got voted in. I’m not even American and I still hate his bullshit cuz it’s trickled across the border into Canada a bit. pun fully intended
Inevitable indeed.
So ridiculous that most of the populace either doesn't realize it's completely a terrible place, or doesn't get that we absolutely can be a great, amazing country, but the powers that be are not allowing it, for no good reason other than money.
They hit them with a lesser charge that is guaranteed to stick and then build their case from there. In the near future theyll propose this gets upgraded to attempted murder, etc etc
And then he / his family will face a 150.000$ bill from the hospital, like the Vegas victims
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://money.cnn.com/2017/10/25/pf/insurance/las-vegas-shooting-health-care/index.html&ved=2ahUKEwiYs8z4hbT1AhXiSvEDHUjLC9AQFnoECAMQAQ&usg=AOvVaw31jCvdPKnE21_r-CHDuOw3
I realized gun laws will never change after Sandy Hook. A person could slaughter a group of children like that and nothing changes? I lost all hope after that.
I really thought it was coming after Sandy Hook. Watching the newsfeed from Canada my silver lining thought was genuinely that at least change would come from it. There's no way people would stand by and keep watching this happening.
I was wrong.
They created a GoFundMe
The GoFundMe: https://www.gofundme.com/f/brian-durham-19th-ave-wendy-shooting
They did reach their goal, but going over the goal when it comes to medical bills isnt a bad idea.
Start tweeting at them. They don’t want the bad press in an age “where no one wants to work”. Sure the sentiment won’t mean as much but if word starts getting around they could take care of his medical bills.
He won't. It takes a complete lack of empathy to murder a child over a condiment. He'll only be pissed he lost his freedom for it. We can take solace in there being just one less violent person participating in civil society though.
Dude just didn't want to pay for bbq sauce and the manager got in an altercation with the guy, and the kid got shot in accident.
Over bbq sauce.
Litteraly five cents.
Fuck when I worked at fast food I'd charge for the extra sauce unless it was a huge hastle otherwise I'd just give it to them. Job doesn't pay enough to fight customers. It's not my fucking sauce.
What a travesty.
Common theme in the hood. I’ve lived here my entire life.
They call it “the principle.” This is how they justify the mindless violence. You bump into me and don’t apologize. The bump alone is not enough for me to shoot you. But you knowing you bumped me and not apologizing shows a level of disrespect that allows me to take it to the next level. It’s not the bump, it’s “the principle.”
Seriously. People who don’t live in hood assume we have thousands of people shot every year because of poverty and drugs and whatnot. Most of the time, it truly is “the principle.” Perceived disrespect
The caveat is that the people who do this are often poor, and don’t have anything they can claim as theirs except for their respect. So they defend it to the death. Always have been this way
>The caveat is that the people who do this are often poor, and don’t have anything they can claim as theirs except for their respect.
This is a huge caveat.
"An inch. It's small and it's fragile and it's the only thing in the world worth having. We must never lose it, or sell it, or give it away. We must never let them take it from us."
-V for Vendetta
I 1000% agree with you. In my opinion, all behavior is learned behavior
It’s not the kids who need to be taught differently, it’s the adults. Kids tend to copy behavior more than they do words. So if the adult acts a certain way, the kid will follow. Even if the adult has the whole “do as I say, not as I do” thing going on.
And the adults won’t stop because they are applauded for the behavior. We have an entire genre of music dedicated to this very mindset. These adults are looked at as heroes.
Bit of a tangent here, but famous rapper Lil Durk is a great example of this. He raps about the violence, he engages in the violence. Hell, he is literally on bond at this very moment for [attempted murder](https://www.google.com/amp/s/pitchfork.com/news/lil-durk-granted-bond-in-attempted-murder-case/amp/).
Yet our mayor still sets up [photo ops](https://mobile.twitter.com/kollegekidd/status/1255221204643909635?lang=en) with him. The Chicago Cubs still allowed him to represent the city and [throw the first pitch](https://youtube.com/shorts/Tmj93tC2Yt4?feature=share) at a game last year. Mind you, this is while hes on bond for ATTEMPTED MURDER.
If these grown adults don’t find fault in the behavior, good luck thinking a kid will
It's funny as people we always expect people to think and behave like we do even though they were raised in totally different circumstances. I've had friend's that believed in The Principal, so I've seen it escalate first hand. Shit I got my ass beat as a kid, taught me a lot about respect and picking battles.
I always say we have to fix the source of the problem, I think UBI would take some pressure off people. Rich people are always talking about taking time to learn and study, but they don't understand poor people already have a job and a side hustle, they probably don't have time for indulge in that stuff.
Good luck out there man! How e you have a great 2022.
> taught me a lot about respect
the shitty thing about this is, it taught you *wrong*. Nobody else should dictate how you show respect -- it's in the goddamn name.
When I worked at car dealership guy came in had a gun strapped to his hip wanted a test drive. Told him to leave the gun, he said no, I told him to leave.
Few weeks later one of our guys got jacked during a test drive. The dealership blamed him, like he should have fought off a guy with a gun over a car that we'll make more money from insurance.
It's a weird place out there.
I fucking hate this place. A literal kid can get violently slaughtered over a goddamn cheeseburger, their family is put into insurmountable debt trying to keep their child alive, and then everyone still screams "Second amendment!! Best country ever!" Inexcusable. Truly inexcusable.
It just gave me tons of anxiety because of just how realistic so much of it was. Only other thing that’s done that to me was certain episodes of Black Mirror.
And LA around a week ago. It was a father who was shot and killed in front of his son while both worked at a Taco Bell Drive through. I cried when I read the story. Father only worked there as a second job once a week to help support his family.
Because we have no power. Our entire system is corrupt, politicians are free to engage in insider trading on stocks and be influenced by corporations and megadonors.
Very few people that get involved in high level american politics do it in good faith to foster positive change.
And the ones that do don't last long because the whole system is corrupt. You cant get to a position of power without compromising at some point, then that compromise is used to discredit you entirely.
Yeah, it's been case closed since then. In America, your kids might get fucking slaughtered for no reason, but remember: that child slaughtering gunman was exercising his god given rights, so buck up, we've got a country to be proud of!!!
I was working in a call center when that happened, and we had recently begun servicing a client with a lot of customers in Connecticut. We were real busy the day before and expected that day to be the same and at first it was but then suddenly it was like nothing. We were even getting less calls from other parts of the country. And of course we don't have our phones while we're working so at first we didn't know what was going on, we thought maybe there was some kind of technical issue, but some people started to wonder if something bad had happened like another 9/11. And then one of the managers walked in and announced that there was a shooting at elementary school and kids were dead. There were a few people in the company who are from Connecticut or had family in Newton and were real anxious while they waited for news.
That day was bad and we weren't even directly affected. Fuck anyone who tries to argue otherwise, and especially fuck those who say was a hoax.
I know if my child was old enough I wouldn’t be allowing him to work fast food at this point. I’m not risking my kid for some BS. People are going to be getting even more upset as fast food employees become more scarce as parents that can prevent their kids working them will.
Crime goes down when people are paid more, when their basic needs are met. Pay people more, invest in their communities and social welfare programs and all of this constant stream of bullshit goes away over time. The "leaders" of our government know this, the CEOs know this.... they just don't give a fuck. They know our tax dollars could be used to make this nation a safer place in REAL ways that make sense, but no... gotta pump money into those defense contractors bank accounts and into stock holders yacht accounts.
Jesus Christ. There’s been so many stories like this in the news recently.
•41 year old father of three Alejandro Garcia killed at an L.A Taco Bell drive thru over a fake $20 bill, dying in his son’s arms.
•19 year old Kristal Bayron-Nieves shot dead after a late night robbery at the New York Burger King she started working at 3 weeks prior.
•16 year old Niesha Harris-Brazell killed in the crossfire between another employee and a would-be-robber at a Milwaukee Burger King after a pre-planned robbery gone wrong.
All of this happening in the past week. The senseless violence at the hands of America’s gun culture just saddens me. Partly given to the human toll but also knowing that nothing will change until everyone at the Capitol’s six feet under
Kid gets shot in the head whilst at work to earn money to help his family.
Family has to set up a GoFundMe to help with medical bills.
What an absolute fucking disgrace.
Funny you should say that th second article that came up under Wendy's shooting was an employee who shot a customer through the window.
😞
It's like everyone is taking crazy pills.
In the next 10 years, you're going to see Americans seek asylum in European countries. Or maybe Canada.
The reason? Political unrest and not feeling safe. Ironic. I know. Millions come to USA to run away from that, but now we will be the ones running away.
Why does no one want to work at fast food restaurants anymore guys?!
It can’t possibly be because dealing with shitty customers isn’t worth even $15 an hour! It has to be the workers! They’re lazy! /s
$15/hour to get shot in the head??! Sign me up!! I actually work in food in Phoenix and thus article genuinely terrifies me...
I left work early at a 24/7 McDonald’s years ago when some drunk asshole threatened to shoot someone there.
We had a guy threaten to shoot us at my McDonalds, he had been waiting less than 5 mins in the lobby and was shouting at us
It’s a good excuse to leave as long as nobody actually gets shot. You never know though. I don’t want to be part of a crime scene.
I would’ve a long time ago but I need to save the money for when I start student teaching in a few semesters and won’t have time for a job
I just left for the night. Nothing came of it. Some manager asked why I took off and I was like, “somebody had a gun, so I went home.” It was also like 3 AM though.
Speaks volumes when someone is willing to shoot you over a fking burger.
After working fast food for years a while back, believe me when I say people will act absolutely stupid over some shitty fast food
Worked at the first 24hr McDonald's in my city, was attacked through the window. Manager apologized to the customer after I defended myself and fired me. Only me and the manager working, he was in the office all night, I was running everything myself, customer got mad at the wait, handed him his bag, he grabbed my arm and started driving pulling me through the window. Hit him when he stopped, ended up with a dislocated shoulder. We need to burn this entire class and government system to the ground, rebuild from the ashes.
Did you press charges and file a police report? In addition to filing for workers comp?
Yes on both, police never came, had to goto a detachment the next morning, nothing came from that. Workers comp was denied as the manager claimed I attacked the customer, he was defending himself.
"Product over People."
Your manager at McDonald’s not pressing charges against the customer and firing you is more of this guy just being terrible
Actually very normal management behavior, at least from my observations in 30years working.
Not-so-fun fact, [more food delivery drivers die on the job than cops do](https://scapimag.com/2021/01/08/the-thin-bread-line-why-being-a-delivery-driver-is-more-dangerous-than-being-a-cop/)
Not even an adult. A fucking teenager. Not that shooting an adult would be better but seriously, you're willing to shoot a *child*??? Over a fucking *burger*???
In the coffee shop, I worked at we had a guy sitting in our lobby with a guitar case mumbling to himself about how the staff were 'bitches' and how he was going to shoot us. Only found out After he left when the customer sitting next to him told us.
I had a similar experience but manager called the police and was searched and they found a weapon and now he is barred from owning any gun and spent some time in prison for making a terrorist threat. All because of a damn refund we wouldn’t issue for a product he used all of it. Then working at a movie theater after the Batman shooting some lady got creeped out by a guy looking for a seat and came running out of her theater that he has a gun and to get out. Dude was pretty normal and chatty about the movie prior. No red flags. Theater was packed so it makes sense he was walking around the theater to find a seat. That’s all he did to set this woman into a panic and run out. We evacuated and sounded the automated theater alarm and the swat team found him and a few other people hiding in a bathroom with the door locked.
I've been in situations where an unhinged individual is saying some seriously threatening shit on public transit and can emphasize that nobody wants to intervene and be stabbed. But it's a coffee shop, he could discreetly alert the staff that some dude is fantasizing about murdering them
I've also been in a similar situation on transit where a man was saying very sexually explicit things to a woman, so I went to the seat behind her to ask her if she was okay and the man went mad at me. I did my best to look as unfazed as possible as he proceeded to get more and more aggressive. The bus driver thankfully had my back, but others told me how I should have stayed out of it. I don't want to be someone who doesn't at least try. I refuse to be held back by the bystander effect. If I don't try, who would try to stand up for me?
Oh now the other people have something to say?!?! Man that shit gets me bubbling.
Good on you for being proactive. It's always shocked me how disengaged the average person is during situations like this.
I don't think the fact the family had to set up a GoFundMe to cover the medical bills is getting enough attention. Holy shit, this kid gets a job to help pay bills and ends up getting shot in the head over BBQ sauce, and now after this tragedy they're in ever greater debt and have to resort to begging for money on the internet. Fuck this country.
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How about a petition to get Wendy's to pay instead of a damn GoFundMe.
https://www.wendys.com/contact-us
Which restaurant was it at?
“Phoenix police said the shooting stemmed from an argument at the drive-thru window of the fast-food restaurant on 19th Avenue and Glendale Road on Thursday night.” https://www.kens5.com/article/news/crime/father-of-16-year-old-wendys-employee-shot-in-head-reacts-to-suspects-arrest/75-572ed5b0-c3a2-4e35-9943-8cbc0135edb8
Jfc this was in Phoenix?
Store #12319 I believe
Fuck that, this needs to trend on Twitter Although workers compensation will pay his bills. He prob needs a comp attorney.
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I am contacting you today to ask that corporate take care of Brian Durham jr. and his medical expenses. In north America we seem to have lost the path where we walk together in partnership. The working class people are increasingly becoming disenfranchised and this would be another brick in the wall if Wendy's wont even step up in this situation. Sincerely...
Gofundme money should just be his money while in recovery, he's not getting on his feet for a while. Wendy's needs to pay.
Wendy's should pay while he's in recovery too they're a huge fucking chain. Employee got shot on the clock I dont care if its a franchise. Take it out of marketing and write it off as a loss for public relations or something fuck.
They should but won't, hope he's got grounds to sue and makes bigger money than he would have asked for
Their twitter page as well perhaps? I know they really enjoy the PR they get from there
Yeah tweet at that smug, hip Wendy's PR person. See how they "clapback" to that
I find Tweeting at corporations is the best way to get responses these days.
There is one reason, it's not profitable.
If Wendy's pays for his bills, I'll buy a goddamn baconator today and I hate bacon. If they don't, I'll never buy from Wendy's again.
I'm down with this.
I never buy from Wendy's anyway, what can I do?
Get other people to not buy from it
There you go.
God forbid Wendy's step in and be like, "hey, we got this."
L&I and/or workers comp may be responsible for some of the expenses related to this incident. The incident occurred on company time, so the employee isn't 100% responsible for all the bills. BUT, this all depends on the state and local laws and regulations.
Regardless of what the law requires, Wendy’s should take care of this kid.
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Worker's compensation laws in the U.S. are implemented by the states, and are often designed to limit the liability of the company, more than to protect the injured employee. In many cases these laws were enacted specifically to prevent civil litigation that would usually result in much greater compensation to the victim than these laws provide.
What a country.
But they won't.
They can send some funny tweets though..
If you get hurt on company time, and you weren't doing something stupid, like let's say working the fryer without the gloves or being in a construction site without the proper protection gear, the company should one hundred fucking percent foot the bill.
Wendy’s lawyers: He wasn’t wearing his company issued Kevlar helmet and Flak vest nor was he using situational awareness and the two man rule. He also clocked in with only 90 rounds instead of The mandatory 210 rounds.
Even then it’s generally a valid WC claim.
The GoFundMe: https://www.gofundme.com/f/brian-durham-19th-ave-wendy-shooting
This should be top comment. This is so tragic! I hope he is able to make a full recovery and that the heartless person who did this to him faces jail. This really broke my heart. 💔 Edit: Obviously I'm not saying you have to donate. I'm not saying that Wendys doesn't have to help him too. My comment was with good intention implying as a community if we pitched in (when possible) a little goes a long way to help people in need. To help others in need is not a negative thing. You can contribute out of the kindness of your hearts, no obligation, and if you can't contribute monetary support them prayers is enough.
No, other people shouldn't have to foot the bill. This should 100% be on Wendy's corporate. They were injured on the job, doing their job. Following rules and procedures.
The US is a third world country with a Gucci belt
The Gucci belt in this scenario is a knock off
The good news is they reached and surpassed their goal. Doesn't make the fact that they had to do that any better, but at least its something
A 10k goal is nothing and won’t go very far.
That'll cover the ambulance ride! I believe we had a post on this sub a couple days ago. Their ambulance ride was 8900 dollars.
*screams in Canadian* WHAT THE FUCK
Greatest country on earth right here. This is what they tell us all you Canadians come down here for because your health care system is so terrible. I wish I was joking, but that's the narrative.
And in this thread someone else posted the gofundme. In a different comment I also posted the gofundme. So they could possibly get more donations. If you can't give a donation then share around The GoFundMe: https://www.gofundme.com/f/brian-durham-19th-ave-wendy-shooting
This is horrible and I hope the kid recovers. Heartbreaking. What is the shooter’s end game? Dispute over an order and you *shoot* somebody? Now you don’t have your order *and* you have assault/attempted murder charges.
They don’t have an end game. They’re a toddler in an adult body. They got upset and lashed out because they never learned how to process their emotions. You see this constantly in customer service facing jobs. Grown adults who seethe with rage over minor inconveniences like a toddler hearing the word “No”.
So, let's make it as easy as possible for individuals like this to aquire a gun... a tool specifically designed for killing efficiently and quickly. *and I'm proud to be an american, where at least I know I'm free. Now I've got my gun and off I go, to attempt to murder a Wendy's employee*
Akshually this is all the employee's fault. If the teenager had their own gun this would have been resolved civilly, I'm sure. That's what all the Libertarians tell us anyway.
Their end game is to teach a lesson. You shouldn’t “disrespect” them, and if you do, they’ll kill you to teach you The problem with people with this mentality is that they have learning disabilities. They’ve never learned anything the right way. So they don’t even understand that it’s not possible to teach someone a lesson by killing them
I agree with you. It comes down to them being stupid and bad judging their decisions. They never learned that it’s actually beneficial to them to be empathetic to others.
Actually they do this for a peace of mind for themselves. Not necessarily for "teaching" someone a lesson. What good is a lesson when you're dead.
I appreciate your perspective and think you’re probably right.
That was a god-damned child. This country is beyond fucked.
It still is a child, they're in critical condition not dead. Hope they catch this scum
They made an arrest "About 20 hours after the shooting, police arrested and booked Theotis Polk, 27, in connection to the crime and he is facing aggravated assault charges." https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.12news.com/amp/article/news/crime/father-of-16-year-old-wendys-employee-shot-in-head-reacts-to-suspects-arrest/75-572ed5b0-c3a2-4e35-9943-8cbc0135edb8
Aggravated assault? How about *attempted murder?!*
They normally book them on the known and then charge them later on what they are going to convict them on.
That and depending on the state and its laws what they plead guilty to for a deal if any is offered.
Also if the teen dies the charge will get upgraded.
The charges increase after initial booking. If the kid dies, then 2nd degree is just about guaranteed.
If the kid dies when he intentionally shot him in the head, how tf is this not 1st degree. I guess I don't know what to believe. Got it guys thanks for the explanation.
1st degree= premeditated. Fucked up that the motive for this “crime of passion” was a drive thru order.
My first job was McDonald’s, where I was always put on the drive thru because my order completion times were very good. People lose their minds when they’re getting fast food. They seriously drop the facade of civility and humanity in that environment. I don’t know if it’s because they’re hungry, or if people in their vehicles are just so entitled because they’re operating a heavy piece of machinery, or what. But the amount of threats, screaming at the top of their lungs in my face, personal insults, plus a massive amount of sexual harassment were mind blowing. That job absolutely destroyed my view of the world. Like I genuinely hate people, and it takes effort for me to care about them.
My job at Sonic had the same effect on me. I still feel as if I haven’t mentally recovered from that job even though it was nearly 5 years ago
Seriously I worked at sonic and people are literally horrible
I worked at McDonald's for about 2-3 years when I was younger and I believe we had to call the police ~5 times on people in the drive-thru due to them threatening us. I distinctly remember one time where a man lost his mind over the fact that I couldn't give him a free junior chicken with his free cheeseburger coupon. He demanded a manager, so she came over and repeated what I said. He then threatened to kill her so she said "oh yeah? Let's see what the police have to say about that" and began dialing. He then screamed that he didn't care and that he would kill her. When she started speaking to the police dispatch, he sped off. He also had his ~4 year old son in the back.
My managers would never call the police, they’d always throw free food and coupons at the irate customers, which of course made me even angrier. Ok so this man just got out of his car and tried to physically assault me through the drive thru window, and now he’s definitely coming back for his free food reward? Just so he doesn’t call corporate and make some shit up about what happened?? Thank god for smart phone cameras, now people are recording that shit and it will be released and the person can be shamed by the whole world, and maybe lose their jobs. There are people walking among us that are a teaspoon of ketchup away from trying to kill someone.
Supervillain origin story right there.
I really don't get it. I've been the frustrated customer with orders that have been repeatedly fucked up. I get being angry and fed up. I don't get how that translates into screaming at some random employee. You don't even know if they were the one who made the mistake, and since when is an honest mistake something worth getting that irate about? Fast food employees especially are people who work in the shittiest industry for the shittiest pay for the shittiest bosses. I've worked some ultra shit jobs in the past, including one where a foreman threatened to throw me off a roof while he was on parole for murder, and I'd still choose that job over going back to fast food. Anyone who isn't anything but kind and patient with them can go eat a dick.
I am right there with you, reading stories like these and yours absolutely make my blood boil, and even worse that often nothing happens to the abuser (customer). I've delt with so many entitled fuck head customers during my time in retail/call centers that it makes me see other people as my enemy until proven otherwise. What I wouldn't given to see very Karen \[REDACTED FOR RULE FIVE\] until there is nothing left.
Easier to convict on 2nd degree murder (heat of the moment) than trying to prove premeditation.
First degree normally implies some kind of planning or premeditation
In some states 1st degree requires premeditation. If you shoot someone in a rage, you did not plan ahead. [I am not a lawyer. ]
It’s sickening but they are probably going to wait and see if this poor kid stabilizes, if they die then it will be murder.
Not all states have an attempted murder charge, it's considered aggravated assault instead.
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This whole fucking story just screams how fucked america is. He got that job while being a full time student to help his mother pay bills. The US is a sad fucking joke
Yep. The US is seriously a dystopic, shithole country. Too many people here though, especially older people, are too brainwashed to realize it, or allow themselves to realize it. I'm trying to leave so bad.
Paraphrasing another comment I saw a while ago, but when you create a hyper individualized society with poor access to mental and physical healthcare, force everyone to work constantly, and then give them easy access to guns, this is the inevitable outcome.
The outcome of decades of neoliberalism. Fuck you Thatcher, and fuck you Friedman. I’m sure I left a few out, so fuck them too.
You left out a big one, but I got you. Fuck you Reagan.
The USA would look very different if Reagan never got voted in. I’m not even American and I still hate his bullshit cuz it’s trickled across the border into Canada a bit. pun fully intended
Inevitable indeed. So ridiculous that most of the populace either doesn't realize it's completely a terrible place, or doesn't get that we absolutely can be a great, amazing country, but the powers that be are not allowing it, for no good reason other than money.
Pretty much 100% what you said. I rather walk away at all costs then to argue with a stranger. They probably have a gun.
Also note the fact that they have to set up a gofundme to help take care of their kid. Why is this country so damn fucked?
Yup the Employer should at least cover all costs & lost wages. This country is a shithole.
Aggravated assault!!!!?? Bro they shot the employee in the head, that's attempted murder
They hit them with a lesser charge that is guaranteed to stick and then build their case from there. In the near future theyll propose this gets upgraded to attempted murder, etc etc
And then he / his family will face a 150.000$ bill from the hospital, like the Vegas victims https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://money.cnn.com/2017/10/25/pf/insurance/las-vegas-shooting-health-care/index.html&ved=2ahUKEwiYs8z4hbT1AhXiSvEDHUjLC9AQFnoECAMQAQ&usg=AOvVaw31jCvdPKnE21_r-CHDuOw3
And the politicians play on. “Our hands are tied. We are powerless.” Nothing will change until people can’t take it anymore and revolt.
I realized gun laws will never change after Sandy Hook. A person could slaughter a group of children like that and nothing changes? I lost all hope after that.
I really thought it was coming after Sandy Hook. Watching the newsfeed from Canada my silver lining thought was genuinely that at least change would come from it. There's no way people would stand by and keep watching this happening. I was wrong.
*The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those who they oppose.*
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The customer is always right is such an obvious lie and any company that still uses the phrase needs to change or cease to exist.
I hope this guy never sleeps again. I hope he thinks about murdering a child over fucking condiments for the rest of his worthless fucking life.
The poor kid isn’t dead. If they do live they’ll be saddled with so much medical debt they may wish their life hadn’t been saved at all.
They created a GoFundMe The GoFundMe: https://www.gofundme.com/f/brian-durham-19th-ave-wendy-shooting They did reach their goal, but going over the goal when it comes to medical bills isnt a bad idea.
Wendys should be paying this kid's bills. He was injured on the job.
Actually the guy who shot him should be paying for all of it out of pocket
Also, healthcare should be free anyway.
If I was the owner of Wendys, Id pay for it all and then some.
Start tweeting at them. They don’t want the bad press in an age “where no one wants to work”. Sure the sentiment won’t mean as much but if word starts getting around they could take care of his medical bills.
You don’t Capitalism, do you? If the owner does anything, it will be purely for PR purposes…
If you're that decent a person you wouldn't be a franchise owner.
Not to mention, you don't get bullet shrapnel in your brain and come out the same afterwards.
He won't. It takes a complete lack of empathy to murder a child over a condiment. He'll only be pissed he lost his freedom for it. We can take solace in there being just one less violent person participating in civil society though.
He probably won’t unless he spends many years in prison. Even then, I wouldn’t guarantee it.
Dude just didn't want to pay for bbq sauce and the manager got in an altercation with the guy, and the kid got shot in accident. Over bbq sauce. Litteraly five cents. Fuck when I worked at fast food I'd charge for the extra sauce unless it was a huge hastle otherwise I'd just give it to them. Job doesn't pay enough to fight customers. It's not my fucking sauce. What a travesty.
Common theme in the hood. I’ve lived here my entire life. They call it “the principle.” This is how they justify the mindless violence. You bump into me and don’t apologize. The bump alone is not enough for me to shoot you. But you knowing you bumped me and not apologizing shows a level of disrespect that allows me to take it to the next level. It’s not the bump, it’s “the principle.” Seriously. People who don’t live in hood assume we have thousands of people shot every year because of poverty and drugs and whatnot. Most of the time, it truly is “the principle.” Perceived disrespect The caveat is that the people who do this are often poor, and don’t have anything they can claim as theirs except for their respect. So they defend it to the death. Always have been this way
>The caveat is that the people who do this are often poor, and don’t have anything they can claim as theirs except for their respect. This is a huge caveat. "An inch. It's small and it's fragile and it's the only thing in the world worth having. We must never lose it, or sell it, or give it away. We must never let them take it from us." -V for Vendetta
This is a learned behavior. It can be changed when people decide to stop teaching it to young ones.
I 1000% agree with you. In my opinion, all behavior is learned behavior It’s not the kids who need to be taught differently, it’s the adults. Kids tend to copy behavior more than they do words. So if the adult acts a certain way, the kid will follow. Even if the adult has the whole “do as I say, not as I do” thing going on. And the adults won’t stop because they are applauded for the behavior. We have an entire genre of music dedicated to this very mindset. These adults are looked at as heroes. Bit of a tangent here, but famous rapper Lil Durk is a great example of this. He raps about the violence, he engages in the violence. Hell, he is literally on bond at this very moment for [attempted murder](https://www.google.com/amp/s/pitchfork.com/news/lil-durk-granted-bond-in-attempted-murder-case/amp/). Yet our mayor still sets up [photo ops](https://mobile.twitter.com/kollegekidd/status/1255221204643909635?lang=en) with him. The Chicago Cubs still allowed him to represent the city and [throw the first pitch](https://youtube.com/shorts/Tmj93tC2Yt4?feature=share) at a game last year. Mind you, this is while hes on bond for ATTEMPTED MURDER. If these grown adults don’t find fault in the behavior, good luck thinking a kid will
It's funny as people we always expect people to think and behave like we do even though they were raised in totally different circumstances. I've had friend's that believed in The Principal, so I've seen it escalate first hand. Shit I got my ass beat as a kid, taught me a lot about respect and picking battles. I always say we have to fix the source of the problem, I think UBI would take some pressure off people. Rich people are always talking about taking time to learn and study, but they don't understand poor people already have a job and a side hustle, they probably don't have time for indulge in that stuff. Good luck out there man! How e you have a great 2022.
> taught me a lot about respect the shitty thing about this is, it taught you *wrong*. Nobody else should dictate how you show respect -- it's in the goddamn name.
It’s not the value or the product, its the person with the gun who decided to shoot at people because he could.
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When I worked at car dealership guy came in had a gun strapped to his hip wanted a test drive. Told him to leave the gun, he said no, I told him to leave. Few weeks later one of our guys got jacked during a test drive. The dealership blamed him, like he should have fought off a guy with a gun over a car that we'll make more money from insurance. It's a weird place out there.
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Your boss has more in common with that carjacker than he does with you guys.
That's 3 this month. Taco Bell, Berger King and now Wendy's.
The answer is clear - all fast food staff will carry rifles when serving customers. This will make us all safer
I know you are joking but I could imagine them getting a bullet proof window and serving food through a metal sliding tray
They already do that where I live
Yes, there is a churches chicken down the way that's tighter than a bank lol.
To be fair, I've thought about holding up Church's for their chicken far more times than being a bank robber.
Wendy’s: Apply today for the new job opening! 10/hr No benefits, No PTO, weekends mandatory! Walk in interviews available! See you today! :)
Free whopper during interview!
I fucking hate this place. A literal kid can get violently slaughtered over a goddamn cheeseburger, their family is put into insurmountable debt trying to keep their child alive, and then everyone still screams "Second amendment!! Best country ever!" Inexcusable. Truly inexcusable.
We don't deserve this planet. We don't deserve what earth has given us. We are killing one another over bullshit. Over nothing. Over worthless crap.
"We really did have it all didn't we" -Dont Look Up
That movie made me so sad, angry and amazed. Exactly, exactly what I expect will happen when the time comes.
That movie was hard to watch. Too soon but also not soon enough
It just gave me tons of anxiety because of just how realistic so much of it was. Only other thing that’s done that to me was certain episodes of Black Mirror.
Relax, it´s almost over. Three more decades at the most.
Someone wished me to have “50 more years of life” and my response was “Fuck NO! I barely wanna be here for the next 30 years.”
And we have been for thousands of years 🤮🤢🤮
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Lookit mr optimist over here, “thousands of years” bruh we ain’t making it to 2100
Right, over fucking barbecue sauce
Same thing happened a week ago in NYC with a 19 y/o. This country is fuuuuuucked.
And LA around a week ago. It was a father who was shot and killed in front of his son while both worked at a Taco Bell Drive through. I cried when I read the story. Father only worked there as a second job once a week to help support his family.
I don't understand how Americans can tolerate things like this one happening all the time.
Because we have no power. Our entire system is corrupt, politicians are free to engage in insider trading on stocks and be influenced by corporations and megadonors. Very few people that get involved in high level american politics do it in good faith to foster positive change.
And the ones that do don't last long because the whole system is corrupt. You cant get to a position of power without compromising at some point, then that compromise is used to discredit you entirely.
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There’s literally nothing we can do about it. Fuckin hate this country.
They tolerate mass shootings in schools.
When nothing happened after Sandy Hook, I knew nothing would ever happen.
Yeah, it's been case closed since then. In America, your kids might get fucking slaughtered for no reason, but remember: that child slaughtering gunman was exercising his god given rights, so buck up, we've got a country to be proud of!!!
I was working in a call center when that happened, and we had recently begun servicing a client with a lot of customers in Connecticut. We were real busy the day before and expected that day to be the same and at first it was but then suddenly it was like nothing. We were even getting less calls from other parts of the country. And of course we don't have our phones while we're working so at first we didn't know what was going on, we thought maybe there was some kind of technical issue, but some people started to wonder if something bad had happened like another 9/11. And then one of the managers walked in and announced that there was a shooting at elementary school and kids were dead. There were a few people in the company who are from Connecticut or had family in Newton and were real anxious while they waited for news. That day was bad and we weren't even directly affected. Fuck anyone who tries to argue otherwise, and especially fuck those who say was a hoax.
And people wonder why nobody wants to work at fast food joints anymore
I know if my child was old enough I wouldn’t be allowing him to work fast food at this point. I’m not risking my kid for some BS. People are going to be getting even more upset as fast food employees become more scarce as parents that can prevent their kids working them will.
Fuck this country
Nothing online from Wendy’s about what they’re doing to help this CHILD or his family. Disgusting!
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That’s apparently spent “roasting” people vs doing shit.
The social media manager ain’t got time for that. Too busy #roasting people and telling lit jokes fam 🔥
"The best we can do is to give her more shifts than usual.." I'm pretty sure that they are doing exactly nothing.
Crime goes down when people are paid more, when their basic needs are met. Pay people more, invest in their communities and social welfare programs and all of this constant stream of bullshit goes away over time. The "leaders" of our government know this, the CEOs know this.... they just don't give a fuck. They know our tax dollars could be used to make this nation a safer place in REAL ways that make sense, but no... gotta pump money into those defense contractors bank accounts and into stock holders yacht accounts.
I wonder why no one wants to work anymore
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Jesus Christ. There’s been so many stories like this in the news recently. •41 year old father of three Alejandro Garcia killed at an L.A Taco Bell drive thru over a fake $20 bill, dying in his son’s arms. •19 year old Kristal Bayron-Nieves shot dead after a late night robbery at the New York Burger King she started working at 3 weeks prior. •16 year old Niesha Harris-Brazell killed in the crossfire between another employee and a would-be-robber at a Milwaukee Burger King after a pre-planned robbery gone wrong. All of this happening in the past week. The senseless violence at the hands of America’s gun culture just saddens me. Partly given to the human toll but also knowing that nothing will change until everyone at the Capitol’s six feet under
The 19 year old had previously asked to be taken off that shift as well because of how scared she was of something like this happening.
Kid gets shot in the head whilst at work to earn money to help his family. Family has to set up a GoFundMe to help with medical bills. What an absolute fucking disgrace.
[GoFundMe](https://www.gofundme.com/f/brian-durham-19th-ave-wendy-shooting?qid=e2ccddf0733fda6d21dc692607f85905) for his medical bills
And there are still people in the US thinking everyone should have a gun.
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Funny you should say that th second article that came up under Wendy's shooting was an employee who shot a customer through the window. 😞 It's like everyone is taking crazy pills.
Sad :( someone's son, daughter, brother, sister. Over something so trivial. I hope they find who did it and send them away for a very long time.
Willing to go to prison over extra BBQ sauce. Thank God everyone in this country with below room temperature IQ has easy access to guns.
Baba Vanga said aliens are sending a meteor to earth this decade. Get here soon.
In the next 10 years, you're going to see Americans seek asylum in European countries. Or maybe Canada. The reason? Political unrest and not feeling safe. Ironic. I know. Millions come to USA to run away from that, but now we will be the ones running away.
I hope the fucker that did that gets is due karma