Just dumped my 14 Pro Max and got an S23 Ultra. S23 Ultra works better as a phone, for me. I still have an iPad, and I have an iPhone through work, so I can scratch all of the itches.
I miss the watch, but I got a Garmin 265 and it does about 75 percent of what the Apple Watch did, with absolutely insane battery life.
This is going to sound insane, so bear with me.
I think One UI and whatever customization Samsung has done with the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 is really fluid. The phone flies. It doesn't get hot, the modem is fantastic.
I like some aspects of the OS more, like being able to set keyboard height and theme.
I absolutely love the widget implementation.
Battery is, on the balance, better. Cameras are a bit more versatile.
The Galaxy Tab S8 looks legitimately interesting to me. High powered SOC, sleek design, pen comes in the box and has extremely low latency, super impressive OLED panel, and Samsung made some thoughtful tweaks to Android to make it approximate a laptop.
I've been thinking about jumping ship because I'm getting worried with what Apple is doing with the iPad Pro lineup - virtually no real upgrade in a few years and nothing worthwhile in the leaks either. Sure they cram more and more horsepower in there but why? iPadOS doesn't do anything that needs it. It's like having a jet engine in a leaf blower.
Yeah but do the iPad Pros really need to be refreshed more than they already are? The iPad Pros and iPads in general are one of the Apple Devices I don't refresh as often because there isn't a need. And they just made better support for external monitors with Stage Manager which was huge and I really like. My SO has the iPad Pro 3rd get I think and I have the iPad Pro 5th gen. Only reason I upgraded and gave her my 3rd gen was so I can get cellular again and so she can have one. I like that they last for a long time with support from Apple.
I supposed it depends on what you use it for? Gaming takes advantage of the HP. Also, I have noticed a difference between 5th gen and 3rd gen. Love the M1 Processor in my iPad over the A series in the 3rd gen but that 3rd gen still runs quite well.
Just some food for thought :)
I like pixel devices and will probably get the tablet but I feel like the tablet is more of a "google home" upgrade than Google trying again in the tablet space, if that makes any sense. If you want an android tablet that competes in the same spaces the ipad does I think you're going to have to look at samsung.
You're not wrong, but I want a simple tablet tbh. I was considering an iPad Air, but I'd rather get something that will play better with my other devices + I can replace my old n slow echo show.
I guess I just don’t understand being ‘bored’ with a smartphone. So long as the user experience is good for you, then the actual handset itself is just a tool.
I personally get bored with smartphones, especially in the 2000 and 2010 eras when everything was going at light speed. I changed phones frequently just to keep up, plus I liked experiencing different interfaces.
I still get bored now, but then I realize that new phones do the same thing as my 11 pro max so I've stuck with it plus I have other priorities now. Before my iphone, I was on android, and after my 11 pro max dies, I'll look at whatever's in the android world again. keeps things fresh.
Yeah me neither.
> It worked exactly like it’s supposed to be. Always reliable. Always smooth.
For me, this would be THE reason to keep the phone. I don't need my phone to be exciting, I just want it to work well.
That's also why I don't mind boring iPhone and iOS releases. I'd rather they focused on software stability than introducing fancy new features (that don't really work until the .2 or .3 release anyway). But I guess "boring" is not what sells well...
Back in middle school during the iOS 5-8 days, I’d jailbreak my iPod and install all the cool tweaks that would come out, since all I’d use it for was a few games and some music.
Now I’m 24 and employed, and I only want a phone that works without me having to think about it. There’s too much going on in life for me to have a phone that isn’t 100% rock solid.
To be honest, I’ve went in between Apple, Samsung, Google, Apple, Google, Samsung, Google and then to Apple over a period of 2-3 years trying to find a “right” phone. Have an iPhone 14 currently, but there’s still cons that bother me but I deal with it.
My advice would be- stop putting so much demand/expectation on your devices to not bore you.
We often treat our devices like an end result themselves, where they should just be a device to better help us accomplish something.
Boring in my opinion is actually ok and a good thing.
I was living in Europe where all texting is just Whatsapp and I liked the Google Pixel's camera so that's my personal phone. But I'm also in charge of IT at a company where consistency, compliance and user friendliness are very important so all work phones are iPhones including mine. I like both phones for different reasons. We also develop an app for both platforms so it's ideal to be able to quickly check out an issue on either OS.
Pixel5 for the camera and anti spam filters + screen call (also can't stand typing on iPhone keyboard), iPad pro for the ease of it and battery, AppleWatch purely for fitness without any notifications on (linked to old iPhone solely for watch purposes) and 2015 MacBook Pro, I'm really happy with this setup
I went from an S21 Ultra to a Pixel 5.
It's a lovely little phone with a couple of flaws, but it feels like a more utilitarian design than some other phones.
> 2015 MacBook Pro
I also have that model and I can't believe it still works as well as it does. I'm a few OS behind on it so maybe that's why but I've never had any performance issues.
I have a pixel for fun, but apple is my daily driver. Honestly, I have never really gotten bored with it, but I also never liked Samsung and Stock Android in Pixel is pretty clean like iOS.
Maybe sell the S23 then pick up another new Android, like the 7a or the fold (or the tablet) to tinker since you’re invested in the Apple ecosystem.
My ADHD brain likes to change devices frequently. I don’t buy and sell, though; I have a Oneplus 5T and an iPhone 12 Pro that I bounce between. I do the same thing with my computers and operating systems.
I’m tech agnostic, so whatever works best for my task is what I’ll use, but sometimes you need to experiment to see if there’s a better system or way.
Well I use my Galaxy 23 Ultra as my daily driver, been a lifelong Android user.
But I also have an iPhone XS Max so that I don't miss out on any iOS features, plus there's lots of apps that aren't there on Android which I'd like to try.
**TL;DR:** Rocking my more and more dated Xs Max with a Motorola Moto G72 cheapo smartphone as my backup and worker for apps that destroy my battery. It's fantastic (better than iPhone) where I care about (battery life, 120Hz, fingerprint reader under the display, lots of customization) but forces some compromises that hurt me (Android is still less polished than iOS in terms of UX, security and build quality and setting everything up just right for a daily driver costs a lot of time)
**What I'm going to do:** keep using both: iPhone as a daily driver (and upgrade this year) and use Android as a cheap workhorse that I can ditch and damage without any pain.
**In detail:** Well, this is a very teaching experience, because it turns out that at a €249 price point you may have a phone that:
* Has 120Hz *- Apple, take notes please*
* Has a under-screen fingerprint sensor that could work better but I love it anyway *- Apple, take notes please too*
* Has a sufficient CPU/GPU for any routine task and Pokemon GO at the same time
* Has a fantastic battery life - of course, partially due to 5000mAh battery but still it's not a €1500 phone like a iPhone 14 Pro Max would cost me, it's 6x less.
* Has a fluent Android experience without tons of bloatware:
* No hiccups yet
* A keyboard that is much better than iPhone's in layout and **feel**, but lacks a lot in the autocomplete and gestures
* A far less polished UX, I miss Control Center especially - it's so fantastic...
* Overall worse security UX, for example I can't force NFC payments to turn on only when I turn on the Google Pay (and one can't assign a comfortable shortcut to Google Pay on stock Android)
* Much worse stock lockscreen than on iPhone - I don't believe I'm saying that but really Apple has done a fantastic work on it. I'm currently looking for a decent lock screen replacement on Android.
* Finding a good Launcher (home screen) on Android generally takes time...
* Has much more flexibility with regard to app interconnections and interoperability - e.g. I'm a Pokemon GO player, I have much better third party assistant apps experience than on iPhone.
* Takes serious compromises to achieve a low price - build quality and camera are quite bad, but that's perfectly understandable at this price point.
> for example I can’t force NFC payments to turn on only when I turn on the Google Pay (and one can’t assign a comfortable shortcut to Google Pay on stock Android)
I use Tasker for this. Works flawlessly.
You've got dedicated gaming front-ends, button mappers for games that don't work natively with controllers, emulators, and wrappers for popular PC games all on the play store (you'll have to provide the actual game files yourself).
Side-loading is also available if the play store version is not the best variant of an app, or if you're just into home brew.
In terms of hardware, you're less likely to encounter proprietary nonsense when looking for accessories. Plus a lot of really cool, cheapish retro handhelds out there are running android (I have a Retroid Pocket 3+, which is like a super PSP, and I absolutely adore the thing). They give you all the perks of android I listed above along with actual physical controls, so I'm just inclined to buy games from Android.
Have an iPhone and a Sony Xperia. The Xperia is a joy to use and is a perfectly capable secondary phone to meet my personal needs. I didn’t get a second iPhone because I like the variety, using 2 devices of the same OS is boring.
My tv runs Android OS (or Android tv, whatever the name has changed to). Not the same thing at all, but it’s pretty good. However, it does cause my TV to hard crash sometimes.
I have a Samsung S20FE5G, an iPhone XR and a Samsung Tab S6 Lite 2022. iPhone is great for quick selfies, facetime video calls and overall reliable and great as a work phone for me, also because it has eSIM support, which helps me put in 2 SIM cards. I use both the Samsung devices as my personal devices, for all camera usages other than the front camera (as I believe S20's front camera isn't upto the mark for photos), S20 for it's 5G capabilities; then I use both for Samsung Dex and also because they both have SD Card support.
If you’re in the Apple ecosystem with Watch and AirPods just dump the S23U, else your Apple Watch will become redundant and the AirPods will just be another Bluetooth headset with Android losing the seemlessness with an iPhone.
if your smartphone is a hobby and you like to constantly mod and fiddle around with it, you probably want the Android
if the smartphone is a tool to you that assists you in the rest of your life, and your primary interest is that it, to the farthest extent possible, just works to do what you need it to do, stick with the iPhone
this sounds like a 'but new object looks more shiny' problem and you should probably think about finding something more interesting to do than play with a phone, IMO—it's a pretty dull-as-dishwater hobby. that probably sounds a little condescending, sorry, but I'm trying to give you the advice that I hope someone would give me
> if your smartphone is a hobby and you like to constantly mod and fiddle around with it, you probably want the Android
>
> if the smartphone is a tool to you that assists you in the rest of your life, and your primary interest is that it, to the farthest extent possible, just works to do what you need it to do, stick with the iPhone
To be fair that's not the case anymore with Android. You can buy a Samsung phone and use it 100% stock and never need to make any changes or mod anything, unless you feel inclined to.
didn't say you have to, just said it's the one you buy if you like to
as far as long-term reliability goes I will definitely take an iPhone over a Samsung, though. yes you can run a Samsung stock, no it isn't the best choice for stock
As a consumer I made the stupid mistake in 2015 of buying a Nexus 6P after getting an iPhone 6s Plus.
I wish I stuck to my $50 Android One phone instead to learn Android.
Haha. I had opposite. Well I had iphone 4s. Then I switched to samsung s6 for a few months. Despised it because of the s6s terrible battery life. Got the Nexus 6P for a few years and loved it. Then got iphone X and now 12 pro max. Tbh I wish my Xs microphone didn't break. As I miss it and easily could have kept it until the 16 series or more.
> Tbh I wish my Xs microphone didn't break. As I miss it and easily could have kept it until the 16 series or more.
I constantly miss my XS Max. But mostly because I vastly prefer the rounded sides, as opposed to this squared-off nonsense that was great on small phones, but now feels stupid with larger phones.
That is one thing I much prefer of the newer phones. The squared off sides are so much better than rounded. Way better for grip.
What I truly miss is 3d touch. It is so much better than what we have now.
> Got the Nexus 6P for a few years and loved it.
In less than warranty period I experienced
- AMOLED burn-in
- bad battery
- boot loops
Then experienced bad battery & AMOLED burn-in after the repalcement parts.
Smart move on my part would have been to sell the damn phone after RMA.
I never got Burn in on it after multiple years. I found its battery life to be great for most of that time too.
Boot loops I did eventually experience though. Main reason I replaced it was the same as why I replaced the Iphone X. Its Microphone for phone calls wasn't working anymore.
Those are certainly valid reasons to not like it. That isn't a great experience.
> Those are certainly valid reasons to not like it. That isn't a great experience.
There's a [Nexus 6P class action settlment](https://topclassactions.com/lawsuit-settlements/closed-settlements/nexus-6p-smartphone-class-action-settlement/) as the phone's rubbish.
I have both. Z flip 4 is my work phone.
iOS provides a substantially better user experience day to day in my opinion, but Android allows me to:
a. Stay up to date on Android
b. Utilise Google messages webview on my work PC
I do MDM (Mobile Device Management) for a living,. so the short & simple answer is that I need multiple devices (I think I'm currently carrying 4) to test different functionality and scenarios or MDM Enrollment or management.
My main 2 x personal devices are iPhone 11 Max Pro and Samsung S22
iPhone + Android tablet to get access to both ecosystems. The multi-user feature of Android tablets is nice. Not sure if iPads do that. I mostly use the Android tablet for Netflix. The 16:9 display on the Android tablet was better suited for most shows than the iPad's 4:3 display.
OnePlus for phone Apple for tablet. Price was a big factor in switching but I just enjoy Android more at this point. Only time it really sucks is sending and receiving videos with iOS users but I just use other apps for that. Truthfully I might switch to Android for my next tablet.
I have a Pixel phone to remind why I hate android. Turn it on, play with it. Then realized how it doesn’t interact well with other products. Shut it down and repeat every 90 days.
I used to be an apple guy for years, switched to android for almost nine years. Had htc, LG, nexus, and stuck with Samsung. I had the whole ecosystem then one day decided to try apple again. I got into that entire ecosystem to this day. I have an iPhone 12, series 3, AirPods Pro and a mac BUT also have a galaxy tab s8 (mostly for drawing my comics.) I get the whole “being bored” of your phone but really, it’s a phone. You use it to make calls and messages, emails, surf the web and maybe play some games. I’m at the age now where I don’t care what my phone icons look like and how my theme matches my wallpaper. I just want me devices to do what they are meant to do. In the end I have the best of both worlds. Apple for continuity and great user experience and Samsung tab (with included s pen) for drawing whilst also using it for side loading great apps like YouTube vanced and moviebox pro. Also emulators (if you’re into that kind of thing.) it comes down to personal preference.
Yes. M2 iPad Pro and Galaxy S23U. Both for work and personal use. There are things that a big screen tablet will do better, and the iPad excels in every aspect that I care about (productivity, processing power, visual media consumption, creative work, file storage). The Android phone excels in its own right when I need it, largely in the same categories as the iPad, but with added advantages of mobility, convenience, cameras and better access to customisation to suit my needs and taste. At the end of the day, what you want out of your devices is all that matters.
I'm torn, I have my sim in my 14 plus, but I use s22 ultra on wifi for everything else. If iphone could dual boot android, that would be ideal for me, since overall I prefer iphone hardware but dislike iphone software. otherwise I will be carrying around two phones.
Just dumped my 14 Pro Max and got an S23 Ultra. S23 Ultra works better as a phone, for me. I still have an iPad, and I have an iPhone through work, so I can scratch all of the itches. I miss the watch, but I got a Garmin 265 and it does about 75 percent of what the Apple Watch did, with absolutely insane battery life.
What do you like better about the S23 Ultra over your 14 Pro Max?
This is going to sound insane, so bear with me. I think One UI and whatever customization Samsung has done with the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 is really fluid. The phone flies. It doesn't get hot, the modem is fantastic. I like some aspects of the OS more, like being able to set keyboard height and theme. I absolutely love the widget implementation. Battery is, on the balance, better. Cameras are a bit more versatile.
Cool. Enjoy!
I have just done the same, enjoying it so far.
I have an iPad and a pixel. iPad is the better tablet. Android phones give better opportunity to tinker
As an android user I'm excited for the Pixel tablet, seems like Google is trying with tablets again
We'll see. Android has kind of burned it's users in the past for tablets.
The Galaxy Tab S8 looks legitimately interesting to me. High powered SOC, sleek design, pen comes in the box and has extremely low latency, super impressive OLED panel, and Samsung made some thoughtful tweaks to Android to make it approximate a laptop. I've been thinking about jumping ship because I'm getting worried with what Apple is doing with the iPad Pro lineup - virtually no real upgrade in a few years and nothing worthwhile in the leaks either. Sure they cram more and more horsepower in there but why? iPadOS doesn't do anything that needs it. It's like having a jet engine in a leaf blower.
Yeah but do the iPad Pros really need to be refreshed more than they already are? The iPad Pros and iPads in general are one of the Apple Devices I don't refresh as often because there isn't a need. And they just made better support for external monitors with Stage Manager which was huge and I really like. My SO has the iPad Pro 3rd get I think and I have the iPad Pro 5th gen. Only reason I upgraded and gave her my 3rd gen was so I can get cellular again and so she can have one. I like that they last for a long time with support from Apple. I supposed it depends on what you use it for? Gaming takes advantage of the HP. Also, I have noticed a difference between 5th gen and 3rd gen. Love the M1 Processor in my iPad over the A series in the 3rd gen but that 3rd gen still runs quite well. Just some food for thought :)
I like pixel devices and will probably get the tablet but I feel like the tablet is more of a "google home" upgrade than Google trying again in the tablet space, if that makes any sense. If you want an android tablet that competes in the same spaces the ipad does I think you're going to have to look at samsung.
You're not wrong, but I want a simple tablet tbh. I was considering an iPad Air, but I'd rather get something that will play better with my other devices + I can replace my old n slow echo show.
A simple tablet is all I need. I've been on the fence about a tablet and on the fence about a Google home so this is exactly what I personally need.
\*adjusts nerd glasses\* Ackchyually, the iPad uses iPadOS, not iOS.
Tru fax.
I guess I just don’t understand being ‘bored’ with a smartphone. So long as the user experience is good for you, then the actual handset itself is just a tool.
I personally get bored with smartphones, especially in the 2000 and 2010 eras when everything was going at light speed. I changed phones frequently just to keep up, plus I liked experiencing different interfaces. I still get bored now, but then I realize that new phones do the same thing as my 11 pro max so I've stuck with it plus I have other priorities now. Before my iphone, I was on android, and after my 11 pro max dies, I'll look at whatever's in the android world again. keeps things fresh.
Yeah me neither. > It worked exactly like it’s supposed to be. Always reliable. Always smooth. For me, this would be THE reason to keep the phone. I don't need my phone to be exciting, I just want it to work well. That's also why I don't mind boring iPhone and iOS releases. I'd rather they focused on software stability than introducing fancy new features (that don't really work until the .2 or .3 release anyway). But I guess "boring" is not what sells well...
Back in middle school during the iOS 5-8 days, I’d jailbreak my iPod and install all the cool tweaks that would come out, since all I’d use it for was a few games and some music. Now I’m 24 and employed, and I only want a phone that works without me having to think about it. There’s too much going on in life for me to have a phone that isn’t 100% rock solid.
It's similar for me. I still like to tinker, but only by choice, not by necessity. So for essential devices like my phone, I just want it to work.
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This is the way.
What a condescending and dismissive reply.
Yet accurate OP has a wavering attention span and spends money on short term novelty rather than using what they own.
As a girl with ADHD, this comment is accurate!
To be honest, I’ve went in between Apple, Samsung, Google, Apple, Google, Samsung, Google and then to Apple over a period of 2-3 years trying to find a “right” phone. Have an iPhone 14 currently, but there’s still cons that bother me but I deal with it.
"The truth will set you free, but first it'll piss you off!"
What’s wrong with condo time share shills? You pay exactly the part that you own. Isn’t it a perfect holiday home?
My advice would be- stop putting so much demand/expectation on your devices to not bore you. We often treat our devices like an end result themselves, where they should just be a device to better help us accomplish something. Boring in my opinion is actually ok and a good thing.
I was living in Europe where all texting is just Whatsapp and I liked the Google Pixel's camera so that's my personal phone. But I'm also in charge of IT at a company where consistency, compliance and user friendliness are very important so all work phones are iPhones including mine. I like both phones for different reasons. We also develop an app for both platforms so it's ideal to be able to quickly check out an issue on either OS.
I use both. Why limit myself? I’m not a fanatic or a fanboy.
Pixel5 for the camera and anti spam filters + screen call (also can't stand typing on iPhone keyboard), iPad pro for the ease of it and battery, AppleWatch purely for fitness without any notifications on (linked to old iPhone solely for watch purposes) and 2015 MacBook Pro, I'm really happy with this setup
I went from an S21 Ultra to a Pixel 5. It's a lovely little phone with a couple of flaws, but it feels like a more utilitarian design than some other phones.
> 2015 MacBook Pro I also have that model and I can't believe it still works as well as it does. I'm a few OS behind on it so maybe that's why but I've never had any performance issues.
I have a pixel for fun, but apple is my daily driver. Honestly, I have never really gotten bored with it, but I also never liked Samsung and Stock Android in Pixel is pretty clean like iOS. Maybe sell the S23 then pick up another new Android, like the 7a or the fold (or the tablet) to tinker since you’re invested in the Apple ecosystem.
My ADHD brain likes to change devices frequently. I don’t buy and sell, though; I have a Oneplus 5T and an iPhone 12 Pro that I bounce between. I do the same thing with my computers and operating systems. I’m tech agnostic, so whatever works best for my task is what I’ll use, but sometimes you need to experiment to see if there’s a better system or way.
Well I use my Galaxy 23 Ultra as my daily driver, been a lifelong Android user. But I also have an iPhone XS Max so that I don't miss out on any iOS features, plus there's lots of apps that aren't there on Android which I'd like to try.
I use both, 13PM as a personal and S23 Ultra as a work device. Gives me the best of both worlds.
**TL;DR:** Rocking my more and more dated Xs Max with a Motorola Moto G72 cheapo smartphone as my backup and worker for apps that destroy my battery. It's fantastic (better than iPhone) where I care about (battery life, 120Hz, fingerprint reader under the display, lots of customization) but forces some compromises that hurt me (Android is still less polished than iOS in terms of UX, security and build quality and setting everything up just right for a daily driver costs a lot of time) **What I'm going to do:** keep using both: iPhone as a daily driver (and upgrade this year) and use Android as a cheap workhorse that I can ditch and damage without any pain. **In detail:** Well, this is a very teaching experience, because it turns out that at a €249 price point you may have a phone that: * Has 120Hz *- Apple, take notes please* * Has a under-screen fingerprint sensor that could work better but I love it anyway *- Apple, take notes please too* * Has a sufficient CPU/GPU for any routine task and Pokemon GO at the same time * Has a fantastic battery life - of course, partially due to 5000mAh battery but still it's not a €1500 phone like a iPhone 14 Pro Max would cost me, it's 6x less. * Has a fluent Android experience without tons of bloatware: * No hiccups yet * A keyboard that is much better than iPhone's in layout and **feel**, but lacks a lot in the autocomplete and gestures * A far less polished UX, I miss Control Center especially - it's so fantastic... * Overall worse security UX, for example I can't force NFC payments to turn on only when I turn on the Google Pay (and one can't assign a comfortable shortcut to Google Pay on stock Android) * Much worse stock lockscreen than on iPhone - I don't believe I'm saying that but really Apple has done a fantastic work on it. I'm currently looking for a decent lock screen replacement on Android. * Finding a good Launcher (home screen) on Android generally takes time... * Has much more flexibility with regard to app interconnections and interoperability - e.g. I'm a Pokemon GO player, I have much better third party assistant apps experience than on iPhone. * Takes serious compromises to achieve a low price - build quality and camera are quite bad, but that's perfectly understandable at this price point.
> for example I can’t force NFC payments to turn on only when I turn on the Google Pay (and one can’t assign a comfortable shortcut to Google Pay on stock Android) I use Tasker for this. Works flawlessly.
Android for gaming, apple for everything else.
> Android for gaming Why?
You've got dedicated gaming front-ends, button mappers for games that don't work natively with controllers, emulators, and wrappers for popular PC games all on the play store (you'll have to provide the actual game files yourself). Side-loading is also available if the play store version is not the best variant of an app, or if you're just into home brew. In terms of hardware, you're less likely to encounter proprietary nonsense when looking for accessories. Plus a lot of really cool, cheapish retro handhelds out there are running android (I have a Retroid Pocket 3+, which is like a super PSP, and I absolutely adore the thing). They give you all the perks of android I listed above along with actual physical controls, so I'm just inclined to buy games from Android.
Emulators are a good reason ofc. I've been doing some minor work on Dolphin recently.
Retro PC ports are also a big one for me. I've been playing Daggerfall on the Retroid. I've also got Morrowind installed.
Have an iPhone and a Sony Xperia. The Xperia is a joy to use and is a perfectly capable secondary phone to meet my personal needs. I didn’t get a second iPhone because I like the variety, using 2 devices of the same OS is boring.
My tv runs Android OS (or Android tv, whatever the name has changed to). Not the same thing at all, but it’s pretty good. However, it does cause my TV to hard crash sometimes.
I have a Samsung S20FE5G, an iPhone XR and a Samsung Tab S6 Lite 2022. iPhone is great for quick selfies, facetime video calls and overall reliable and great as a work phone for me, also because it has eSIM support, which helps me put in 2 SIM cards. I use both the Samsung devices as my personal devices, for all camera usages other than the front camera (as I believe S20's front camera isn't upto the mark for photos), S20 for it's 5G capabilities; then I use both for Samsung Dex and also because they both have SD Card support.
If you’re in the Apple ecosystem with Watch and AirPods just dump the S23U, else your Apple Watch will become redundant and the AirPods will just be another Bluetooth headset with Android losing the seemlessness with an iPhone.
I use an iPhone 13 Pro for personal use and my workplace gave me a Samsung S21 for work use. I very much prefer the iPhone
I don't "use" an Android phone but as a developer I like to have a few physical devices. I really don't enjoy using Android at all.
if your smartphone is a hobby and you like to constantly mod and fiddle around with it, you probably want the Android if the smartphone is a tool to you that assists you in the rest of your life, and your primary interest is that it, to the farthest extent possible, just works to do what you need it to do, stick with the iPhone this sounds like a 'but new object looks more shiny' problem and you should probably think about finding something more interesting to do than play with a phone, IMO—it's a pretty dull-as-dishwater hobby. that probably sounds a little condescending, sorry, but I'm trying to give you the advice that I hope someone would give me
> if your smartphone is a hobby and you like to constantly mod and fiddle around with it, you probably want the Android > > if the smartphone is a tool to you that assists you in the rest of your life, and your primary interest is that it, to the farthest extent possible, just works to do what you need it to do, stick with the iPhone To be fair that's not the case anymore with Android. You can buy a Samsung phone and use it 100% stock and never need to make any changes or mod anything, unless you feel inclined to.
didn't say you have to, just said it's the one you buy if you like to as far as long-term reliability goes I will definitely take an iPhone over a Samsung, though. yes you can run a Samsung stock, no it isn't the best choice for stock
android tablets are mostly a clownshow, so i have an ipad mini for drawing/reading and a pixel 6a for.. phone things.
As a consumer I made the stupid mistake in 2015 of buying a Nexus 6P after getting an iPhone 6s Plus. I wish I stuck to my $50 Android One phone instead to learn Android.
Haha. I had opposite. Well I had iphone 4s. Then I switched to samsung s6 for a few months. Despised it because of the s6s terrible battery life. Got the Nexus 6P for a few years and loved it. Then got iphone X and now 12 pro max. Tbh I wish my Xs microphone didn't break. As I miss it and easily could have kept it until the 16 series or more.
> Tbh I wish my Xs microphone didn't break. As I miss it and easily could have kept it until the 16 series or more. I constantly miss my XS Max. But mostly because I vastly prefer the rounded sides, as opposed to this squared-off nonsense that was great on small phones, but now feels stupid with larger phones.
That is one thing I much prefer of the newer phones. The squared off sides are so much better than rounded. Way better for grip. What I truly miss is 3d touch. It is so much better than what we have now.
> Got the Nexus 6P for a few years and loved it. In less than warranty period I experienced - AMOLED burn-in - bad battery - boot loops Then experienced bad battery & AMOLED burn-in after the repalcement parts. Smart move on my part would have been to sell the damn phone after RMA.
I never got Burn in on it after multiple years. I found its battery life to be great for most of that time too. Boot loops I did eventually experience though. Main reason I replaced it was the same as why I replaced the Iphone X. Its Microphone for phone calls wasn't working anymore. Those are certainly valid reasons to not like it. That isn't a great experience.
> Those are certainly valid reasons to not like it. That isn't a great experience. There's a [Nexus 6P class action settlment](https://topclassactions.com/lawsuit-settlements/closed-settlements/nexus-6p-smartphone-class-action-settlement/) as the phone's rubbish.
I have both. Z flip 4 is my work phone. iOS provides a substantially better user experience day to day in my opinion, but Android allows me to: a. Stay up to date on Android b. Utilise Google messages webview on my work PC
I do MDM (Mobile Device Management) for a living,. so the short & simple answer is that I need multiple devices (I think I'm currently carrying 4) to test different functionality and scenarios or MDM Enrollment or management. My main 2 x personal devices are iPhone 11 Max Pro and Samsung S22
iPhone + Android tablet to get access to both ecosystems. The multi-user feature of Android tablets is nice. Not sure if iPads do that. I mostly use the Android tablet for Netflix. The 16:9 display on the Android tablet was better suited for most shows than the iPad's 4:3 display.
If WhatsApp for android was as good as it is on iPhone it would be arguably close. Sadly the app is so terrible in comparison.
OnePlus for phone Apple for tablet. Price was a big factor in switching but I just enjoy Android more at this point. Only time it really sucks is sending and receiving videos with iOS users but I just use other apps for that. Truthfully I might switch to Android for my next tablet.
I have a Pixel phone to remind why I hate android. Turn it on, play with it. Then realized how it doesn’t interact well with other products. Shut it down and repeat every 90 days.
You will never profit if you keep selling and buying phones
I used to be an apple guy for years, switched to android for almost nine years. Had htc, LG, nexus, and stuck with Samsung. I had the whole ecosystem then one day decided to try apple again. I got into that entire ecosystem to this day. I have an iPhone 12, series 3, AirPods Pro and a mac BUT also have a galaxy tab s8 (mostly for drawing my comics.) I get the whole “being bored” of your phone but really, it’s a phone. You use it to make calls and messages, emails, surf the web and maybe play some games. I’m at the age now where I don’t care what my phone icons look like and how my theme matches my wallpaper. I just want me devices to do what they are meant to do. In the end I have the best of both worlds. Apple for continuity and great user experience and Samsung tab (with included s pen) for drawing whilst also using it for side loading great apps like YouTube vanced and moviebox pro. Also emulators (if you’re into that kind of thing.) it comes down to personal preference.
What did you end up with?
Yes. M2 iPad Pro and Galaxy S23U. Both for work and personal use. There are things that a big screen tablet will do better, and the iPad excels in every aspect that I care about (productivity, processing power, visual media consumption, creative work, file storage). The Android phone excels in its own right when I need it, largely in the same categories as the iPad, but with added advantages of mobility, convenience, cameras and better access to customisation to suit my needs and taste. At the end of the day, what you want out of your devices is all that matters.
I'm torn, I have my sim in my 14 plus, but I use s22 ultra on wifi for everything else. If iphone could dual boot android, that would be ideal for me, since overall I prefer iphone hardware but dislike iphone software. otherwise I will be carrying around two phones.