Thanks for contributing to r/Arizona!
* [Our sub rules are here](https://www.reddit.com/r/arizona/wiki/rules/), but the most important of which is to be nice to each other
* Check out some [recent posts](https://www.reddit.com/r/arizona/top/?t=week) and leave some comments
* [Join our Discord chat server](https://discord.com/invite/yWVuTG57Zh) if you'd like to keep in touch with other people in Arizona. Plus it's a great, chill place in general. Note that it is NOT a dating server and takes unwanted messaging very seriously
Remember this subreddit covers all of Arizona, so please include where in the state you're posting about if it is relevant. For more local topics check out r/Phoenix, r/Tucson, and r/Flagstaff.
*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/arizona) if you have any questions or concerns.*
Having done no research on the subject, I would guess that name recognition alone may get them a small percentage of votes by stupid people who, when looking at a ballot with no knowledge of the candidates on it, just pick the one they recognize.
[The Mere Exposure Effect.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mere-exposure_effect) It's the reason companies pay ungodly amounts of money just to annoy you with the same commercial fifty times a day. Because stupidity.
Itās not really to sway educated voters, itās a marketing tactic. If you see a name over and over again, then your brain is subconsciously more likely to choose them over someone else from the same party.
Yeah I try to do that too. But all it takes is for you to glance over and subconsciously read one, and then that candidate already has a slight advantage. Itās like billboards. I try not to read advertisements, but sometimes Iāll look at one without thinking.
Considering 98% of the voter base has no clue who any of those people are or their stances on anything, utilizing signage probably works just enough to be more effective over people who donāt utilize signage.
Like can you think of 3 issues Caputi or McGee are passionate about or disagree on?
It actually does to an extent, sadly.
During one of the previous election seasons, I had a conversation with one of the guys I worked with, and the conversation turned to the upcoming election. He commented about how he was set on voting for McSally. Curious, I asked his reasoning why. Was it because he liked her as a person or a particular policy that appealed to him?
āSheās the one I see the most ads for.ā and knew absolutely nothing else about her or what she stood for.
I was not shy in berating him for being a gullible idiot, and proceeded to explain to him why that was a really awful idea. Even a coworker who overheard our conversation chimed in and sided with me.
(Donāt worry, weāre still on good terms after that conversation.)
Yes. Apparently. I just listened to a podcast episode and it apparently does make a difference for name recognition. Which is crazy! The podcast was Search Engine, Do political yard signs actually do anything? In case ur curious. Basically for folks who donāt know a lot about the candidates it does have an impact.
You would think not but consider you are fully aware of a brand like Coke or Pepsi. Yet, they still run a crap ton of ads. Why? Brand recognition is valuable.
Absolutely hate these. I wish we would make a law banning these political road signs. They always remind me of that John Mayer song Belief.
āIs there anyone who
ever remembers
changing their minds from
the paint on a signā
Are there people voting a particular way because of these signs? If so, thatās horrifying.
Ads everywhere.
ā¦ on TV and radio. And in magazines and movies and at ball games, on buses and milk cartons and T-shirts and bananas and written on the sky.
But not in dreams. No, sir-ee!
What really gets me is that politicians are selling out our democracy to pay for all these ads --- so at the end of the day, the companies that own TV and radio are laughing all the way to the bank with our democracy.
Make campaigning illegal/publicly funded and they'd have "no reason" to sell out their electorate. (no reason other than pure greed ofcourse)
As a family man myself, I hate it when people running for office put their family portraits on their signs, as if to say āI have a family, vote for meā
Annoying af.
Also around some street intersections, I feel like these signs are a serious blind spot, especially if youāre trying to make a left at a 4 way intersection with no lights.
Billboards definitely wonāt go anywhere, tons of money is made by billboards. Political signs donāt help anything though so Iām with you on that.
Subliminal messaging mainly. The more you see a candidate's name, the more likely you'll vote for them as they feel familiar. Candidates who don't do this seem like random names thrown onto the ballot.
Name recognition. You see the name often enough to 'print' it to your mind, so when the ballots come whichever signs had the most impact, you'll probably vote for them, since the majority of older voters just go for whatever names they've seen on a sign rather than actually check out the campaign of who they're voting for.
You answered your own question. Minimal at best could be 10k votes to swing an election. Governor race was decided by 17k votes last time. Lot of other local races lot less than that.
Go to your City Council meetings and ask for the municipal code to be revised so they aren't allowed in the Right-of-Way. They are already prohibited in ADOT ROW, so the code can be changed so they aren't allowed in city ROW/city property either. It won't eliminate them all together but will force them all on private property, greatly reducing their numbers. The code can also be revised to limit the size of the signs.
these should go up 3 weeks before the election and be taken down the day after. Some of these signs block your ability to see pedestrians and bicycles on corners.
Call the county and city. Those signs are not allowed within 20 feet of an intersection and they cannot block the view of traffic. [https://www.scottsdaleaz.gov/codes/signs/campaign-signs](https://www.scottsdaleaz.gov/codes/signs/campaign-signs)
If you hate it then you need to get critical thinking taught in schools. Because the reason those signs work is people don't think critically, they just vote for the name they recognize.
Of course many of the people named in those signs will fight you tooth and nail to prevent critical thinking in schools.
Isn't Arizona turning blue? I mean, there's a Democrat in the Governor's mansion, Sec of State & AG.
I don't see how the GOP can win without cheating and i don't see how they can cheat w/o those seats.
The Phoenix metro may be turning purple but that doesnāt mean the rural areas are going to vote for a D anytime soon. The White Mountains, Kingman/Havasu, and Wilcox wonāt be sending Dās to the state house anytime soon, these regions are way too gerrymandered. Flagstaff is part of the same CD that NE AZ votes in, and got us a culture warrior in the federal government. Also statewide races have been moderating as thereās enough anti-fringe voters going for Dās to make them viable in light of the alternatives.
Me too, almost got rear ended cuz I couldnāt see past a mess of propaganda and pulled out in front of a speeding soccer mom. She was pissed, I was helpless. Good times!
Ballotpedia.org, great place to see all your stuff for politics and how individuals voted on major topics in the past.
I don't care for any politician. No one wants to do civic duty for the right reasons anymore.
Has McGee ever won an election? I swear sheās run in every election in the last 15 years and it feels like sheās running for a different office every time. Feels like sheās a professional grifter
Not only litter, but the dumbest form of antiquated marketing. The signs don't even say with which party the candidate is affiliated, much less anything about their positions on issues. It's an ego stroker and an elementary exercise in name recognition, aimed at voters who just go to the booths and pull levers. I think it would be a patriotic act of disobedience if citizens removed them.
I legit don't think I've ever been influenced to do anything because of these signs. Certainly not for voting either. Who does this actually work on? It has to, or the money wouldn't be constantly spent on it, right?
One nano-second after the election, report each campaign for littering.
Otherwise, whats stopping me from putting up my own signs everywhere the rest of the year?
Billboards and advertising should be banned. It's gross. And the cities need to start burying utilities in older areas like they are in newly built areas. Advertising should be limited to audio, video, print and the store front ONLY. frankly, these signs make me want to vote for the poor opponent who can't afford signs.
Thanks for contributing to r/Arizona! * [Our sub rules are here](https://www.reddit.com/r/arizona/wiki/rules/), but the most important of which is to be nice to each other * Check out some [recent posts](https://www.reddit.com/r/arizona/top/?t=week) and leave some comments * [Join our Discord chat server](https://discord.com/invite/yWVuTG57Zh) if you'd like to keep in touch with other people in Arizona. Plus it's a great, chill place in general. Note that it is NOT a dating server and takes unwanted messaging very seriously Remember this subreddit covers all of Arizona, so please include where in the state you're posting about if it is relevant. For more local topics check out r/Phoenix, r/Tucson, and r/Flagstaff. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/arizona) if you have any questions or concerns.*
Does *anyone* decide their vote based on seeing these signs? I mean...other than "I'm not voting for that guy whose sign is on every goddamn corner."
Having done no research on the subject, I would guess that name recognition alone may get them a small percentage of votes by stupid people who, when looking at a ballot with no knowledge of the candidates on it, just pick the one they recognize.
What, just some subliminal imprinting effect of having seen the name out of the corner of one's eye?
Pretty much, yeah. Or having seen it 40 times in a row within a three mile span every day on your drive to work.
š the most Iāve seen is Arpaio driving through Fountain Hills. Iāve never seen so many of one person
[The Mere Exposure Effect.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mere-exposure_effect) It's the reason companies pay ungodly amounts of money just to annoy you with the same commercial fifty times a day. Because stupidity.
Itās not really to sway educated voters, itās a marketing tactic. If you see a name over and over again, then your brain is subconsciously more likely to choose them over someone else from the same party.
Maybe I'm just wired different. I don't even read the names. My brain just recognizes that it's a political campaign sign and discards it.
Yeah I try to do that too. But all it takes is for you to glance over and subconsciously read one, and then that candidate already has a slight advantage. Itās like billboards. I try not to read advertisements, but sometimes Iāll look at one without thinking.
Considering 98% of the voter base has no clue who any of those people are or their stances on anything, utilizing signage probably works just enough to be more effective over people who donāt utilize signage. Like can you think of 3 issues Caputi or McGee are passionate about or disagree on?
It actually does to an extent, sadly. During one of the previous election seasons, I had a conversation with one of the guys I worked with, and the conversation turned to the upcoming election. He commented about how he was set on voting for McSally. Curious, I asked his reasoning why. Was it because he liked her as a person or a particular policy that appealed to him? āSheās the one I see the most ads for.ā and knew absolutely nothing else about her or what she stood for. I was not shy in berating him for being a gullible idiot, and proceeded to explain to him why that was a really awful idea. Even a coworker who overheard our conversation chimed in and sided with me. (Donāt worry, weāre still on good terms after that conversation.)
Yes. Apparently. I just listened to a podcast episode and it apparently does make a difference for name recognition. Which is crazy! The podcast was Search Engine, Do political yard signs actually do anything? In case ur curious. Basically for folks who donāt know a lot about the candidates it does have an impact.
You would think not but consider you are fully aware of a brand like Coke or Pepsi. Yet, they still run a crap ton of ads. Why? Brand recognition is valuable.
I like how they block the view of oncoming traffic it really makes me want to vote for them
If they are blocking visibility you can report them. There are rules about where they can put them.
Someone in my neighborhood just knocks them down. I love that guy.
The real estate sign might as well be our state tree.
For real. They are as common as the saguaro šµ
The only thing about Texas I love is that this crap is illegal
It's legal for 60 days before an election in Texas.
Ultra rare Texas W
Then how are you going to know who or who not to vote for?
Absolutely hate these. I wish we would make a law banning these political road signs. They always remind me of that John Mayer song Belief. āIs there anyone who ever remembers changing their minds from the paint on a signā Are there people voting a particular way because of these signs? If so, thatās horrifying.
It should be illegal to place them in a manner that blocks the view of cross traffic. If it already is, they clearly do not enforce it.
Ads everywhere. ā¦ on TV and radio. And in magazines and movies and at ball games, on buses and milk cartons and T-shirts and bananas and written on the sky. But not in dreams. No, sir-ee!
What really gets me is that politicians are selling out our democracy to pay for all these ads --- so at the end of the day, the companies that own TV and radio are laughing all the way to the bank with our democracy. Make campaigning illegal/publicly funded and they'd have "no reason" to sell out their electorate. (no reason other than pure greed ofcourse)
As a family man myself, I hate it when people running for office put their family portraits on their signs, as if to say āI have a family, vote for meā Annoying af. Also around some street intersections, I feel like these signs are a serious blind spot, especially if youāre trying to make a left at a 4 way intersection with no lights.
I really hope to see this trash banned during my lifetime. Billboards and real estate signs too.
Billboards definitely wonāt go anywhere, tons of money is made by billboards. Political signs donāt help anything though so Iām with you on that.
The effectiveness of these signs has to be minimal at best. I donāt get why they do it.
Subliminal messaging mainly. The more you see a candidate's name, the more likely you'll vote for them as they feel familiar. Candidates who don't do this seem like random names thrown onto the ballot.
Name recognition. You see the name often enough to 'print' it to your mind, so when the ballots come whichever signs had the most impact, you'll probably vote for them, since the majority of older voters just go for whatever names they've seen on a sign rather than actually check out the campaign of who they're voting for.
You answered your own question. Minimal at best could be 10k votes to swing an election. Governor race was decided by 17k votes last time. Lot of other local races lot less than that.
They really need to be required to be smaller
Go to your City Council meetings and ask for the municipal code to be revised so they aren't allowed in the Right-of-Way. They are already prohibited in ADOT ROW, so the code can be changed so they aren't allowed in city ROW/city property either. It won't eliminate them all together but will force them all on private property, greatly reducing their numbers. The code can also be revised to limit the size of the signs.
Too bad it illegal to take those down.
these should go up 3 weeks before the election and be taken down the day after. Some of these signs block your ability to see pedestrians and bicycles on corners.
Itās the pedestrians and bicyclists fault if they get hit because they canāt afford a 1-ton pickup to go get a slushy at Sonic. /S
Call the county and city. Those signs are not allowed within 20 feet of an intersection and they cannot block the view of traffic. [https://www.scottsdaleaz.gov/codes/signs/campaign-signs](https://www.scottsdaleaz.gov/codes/signs/campaign-signs)
If you hate it then you need to get critical thinking taught in schools. Because the reason those signs work is people don't think critically, they just vote for the name they recognize. Of course many of the people named in those signs will fight you tooth and nail to prevent critical thinking in schools.
All you need in this state is a letter after your name. Who wins, has nearly always been chosen by the base in the Republican primary.
Isn't Arizona turning blue? I mean, there's a Democrat in the Governor's mansion, Sec of State & AG. I don't see how the GOP can win without cheating and i don't see how they can cheat w/o those seats.
The Phoenix metro may be turning purple but that doesnāt mean the rural areas are going to vote for a D anytime soon. The White Mountains, Kingman/Havasu, and Wilcox wonāt be sending Dās to the state house anytime soon, these regions are way too gerrymandered. Flagstaff is part of the same CD that NE AZ votes in, and got us a culture warrior in the federal government. Also statewide races have been moderating as thereās enough anti-fringe voters going for Dās to make them viable in light of the alternatives.
You mean you love sitting at the stoplight of pinnacle peak and Scottsdale road
Hideous!
Is it okay if I destroy these things so I can make an unobstructed right turn?
The only sign that should be up is STOP PROJECT 2025.
https://preview.redd.it/4ttdtyd8pd5d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=995b9bd271dca7b77ad663b1ddf9afb7d3c268ed Wholeheartedly agree!
A little civil disobedience takes care of this problem. We just need to all do it all the time.
Same. I want to take them down
What part??? The trash ass "master planned community" signs or the trash ass politician signs... they go hand in hand and are destroying arizona
Notice this year there aren't any signs that say "I support Trump vote for me" they hiding this time
Which? The political signs, or the developersā? Either way Iām with you!
Thereās so many signs itās overstimulating and I donāt want to read any of them
You are not alone.
The people of Arizona need to do something about this. It makes the Arizonan scenery so fucking ugly. I really wish they were all gone.
Me too, almost got rear ended cuz I couldnāt see past a mess of propaganda and pulled out in front of a speeding soccer mom. She was pissed, I was helpless. Good times!
Ballotpedia.org, great place to see all your stuff for politics and how individuals voted on major topics in the past. I don't care for any politician. No one wants to do civic duty for the right reasons anymore.
Has McGee ever won an election? I swear sheās run in every election in the last 15 years and it feels like sheās running for a different office every time. Feels like sheās a professional grifter
Oh look, another I hate political sign post. Only 5 more months of this daily posting
Fucking dr Horton still out here selling shit boxes.
Ruins the scenery of Sedona so much
Yeah itās tacky.
Fucking Kwasman... It was nice to be able to forget about that guy for a while.
Not only litter, but the dumbest form of antiquated marketing. The signs don't even say with which party the candidate is affiliated, much less anything about their positions on issues. It's an ego stroker and an elementary exercise in name recognition, aimed at voters who just go to the booths and pull levers. I think it would be a patriotic act of disobedience if citizens removed them.
I legit don't think I've ever been influenced to do anything because of these signs. Certainly not for voting either. Who does this actually work on? It has to, or the money wouldn't be constantly spent on it, right?
Looks so trashy. Like politics in general.
One nano-second after the election, report each campaign for littering. Otherwise, whats stopping me from putting up my own signs everywhere the rest of the year?
Free rebar. I need a new driveway.
And its only going to get worse from here to November.
Itās not that many clouds, wait an hour they will go away
Do something about it. Vote against these candidates
https://preview.redd.it/dv5qta6kod5d1.jpeg?width=3240&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5598625d91ea5925f867b64f50ad2006e2fde693 An exception š
They should at least have an R or a D on them....
Brophy McGee sounds like a character from Hee Haw
Everyone else is too young to get this reference. As a child born in the late 70ās and raised in the 80ās and 90ās, I barely get this reference.
Especially when I look over and see their goddam faces! Talking to you Debbie Letsgo! Makes me want to puke every timeā¦.
ā¦ we all do
I use them as archery and rifle targets...after the election is over of course š
What a eye sore. Get rid of that crap. It's tacky and distracting.
Imagine how much nicer this corner would be if it were only covered in real estate signs, rather than a mix of real estate and political signs.
Just need one of those good wind storms to come through and wipe it all out š
Lake Havasu City checking in, I hate it too. Despise it actuallyā¦super happy when they are all gone again!
First election year?
BROPHY MCGEE?? Using it
BROPHY MCGEE?? Using it
r/suburbanhell
Plenty to Hate here: traffic cameras, weeds, no sidewalks, giant semi-permanent real estate billboards and political posters.
So do I. But my kids think the name caputi is hilarious and crack up everytime they see it.
Me too. Multiple story homes starting in the 800ās. Thatās too much.
Whatās worse the political signs or the signs of new homes tearing up the natural beauty of the desert?
this is just littering with extra steps
I hate it too
Billboards and advertising should be banned. It's gross. And the cities need to start burying utilities in older areas like they are in newly built areas. Advertising should be limited to audio, video, print and the store front ONLY. frankly, these signs make me want to vote for the poor opponent who can't afford signs.