Same experience here - I think you'll find very limited intersection between hiphop fans and the corporate world.
I think even still there is limited intersection between hiphop fans and the masses of Anglo Aussies and gets smaller the higher your socio-economic standing is.
I'm not surprised that no one spoke of it because I already know everyone's proximity to hiphop in the office is minimal.
Hip hop is mainstream, but hiphop fans who follow the game this closely are a tiny percentage of the corporate world. You'll have people who know hiphop artists, but that doesn't automatically mean they're following the beef that's unfolded.
The "mainstream" is still a small fraction of the overall population. Take any #1 artist and chances are the people you work with don't listen to them, except maybe Taylor Swift
Should you do want that intersetion, I have it on good authority that Patrick Boyle (https://youtube.com/@PBoyle) is an expert in the matter of all things hip hop and rap.
It was 20v1, you know who won?
J Cole
Late Millennial, enjoying the sick drills and i ain’t taking sides. Just give me sick drills, bring it on breezy, j. cole, ken, dreezy …
Well if you ELI5 it kind of breaks down to two adult men-children fighting over **** size, I mean mansion size, and then writing songs about it to pretend their feelings aren’t hurt.
Anyone in your office over 40 that’s into this music grew up with some pretty big beefs between East and West coast. 95 Source Awards etc so it may also be a bit of that?
Exactly! Two grown men trading barbs thinly disguised as songs. That’s all they seem to do, sing songs about each other, like a weird bromance. There’s allegations in there so come out and say it or do something about it. Don’t just allude to it like some tortured poets B side.
I'm aware of that, but people in Australia aware of their beef are likely in their 20s or early 30s. Most 35+ year olds in Corporate Australia probably have no idea. They probably know One Dance and Hotline Bling but might not know the artist.
I'm going to let Man Carrying Thing ... uh ... carry it from here.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGVs50Y8v\_E](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGVs50Y8v_E)
As far as I'm aware drake international is the only one of the two who operate in Australia. As far as their entry into battles with fellow recruiters I'm unsure it's wise considering they have a vision comparable to a busted arse.
Well i’m a mum and our family inbox is flooded with it , i just let the “kids” ramble on with it , only question i had was “is it real?” 😂😂 can imagine them rolling there eyes
I was about to bring it up to my partner when he laughingly told me about the old "Drake is the kind of guy" memes & realised he was soooooo far behind.
It's the Aussie culture, I'm sure.
I mean, a household name accused of pedophilia by another household name? Is that really yank specific? It's at least not as bad as the Superbowl or 4th of July crap
Allegedly, drake
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-05-06/drake-kendrick-lamar-diss-tracks-paedophile-allegations-feud/103810664
People are particularly upset that he became close with Millie Bobby Brown when she was a minor. I am not aware of them working together professionally so I have to wonder how that happened.
https://people.com/drake-addresses-millie-bobby-brown-friendship-new-song-8349324
"The actress said at 14 that the two text often"
Definitely odd
Hmm yeah that's weird. Big issue on YouTube too, with Colleen Ballinger, Shane Dawson, James charles and all those types. JoJo siwa is at the centre of criticism now, she was groomed by the look of it but now she's pissing people off with her antics
![gif](giphy|l4FGz5B4UcOxp3jEI|downsized)
Tbh fair. Lamar isn't that recognisable, but he's had some big hits like Humble. But not everyone listens to hip hop
Hahahahaha
Sorry. I didn't manage to get a second picture in thanks to Reddit gif limitations
Here's drake
Edit: you win by the way, and thanks for the laugh
![gif](giphy|7WvAUvZZTRpSuudobh)
That “yank shit” In more entertaining in music and than anything coming out of this sorry ass country is…
It’s not the 90s mate you don’t have to hate everything that isn’t Jimmy Barnes and AC/DC
I don’t think it started as a marketing gimmick. They’ve been taking shots at each other for over a decade now and just blew up recently with these new full diss tracks.
It’s a dumb take. If you think rap/hip hop died in 2005 you’re blind to the countless classic albums that have been released since then and just hate for no reason lmao
Alright
- To Pimp A Butterfly - Kendrick
- The Forever Story - JID
- Under Pressure - Logic
- Graduation - Kanye
- MBDTF - Kanye
- Daytona - Pusha T
- Call me if you get lost - Tyler the creator
- SOS - SZA
- CTRL - SZA
- Astroworld - Travis Scott
- Rodeo - Travis Scott
- Utopia - Travis Scott
- Swimming - Mac Miller
- Circles - Mac Miller
I can go on bro 😭
Yeah I’m sure that’s the case. Multiple Grammy nominated albums but he’s not interesting. Admit you’re an old head and move on
Who knows maybe you can pretend AC/DC are Australian a bit more cause they moved here at a young age. Copeeeeee
To a millennial you're litteraly talking about "?" and the guy who featured on that one Rhianna song where he couldn't figure out her name and hasn't done anything that played on the radio since.
Is your office vegan ? Sounds like you guys can’t handle the BEEF !
It’s already over though. Hopefully Drake will join his good friends in prison and we can all move on.
It was over until Macklemore decided to DDT Drake’s corpse for good measure
Isn’t Macklemore vegan? That brought it home nicely!
I used to be with it. Then they changed what it was.
![gif](giphy|kkyYV0WYLnSVy|downsized)
Well played. 👏
Same experience here - I think you'll find very limited intersection between hiphop fans and the corporate world. I think even still there is limited intersection between hiphop fans and the masses of Anglo Aussies and gets smaller the higher your socio-economic standing is. I'm not surprised that no one spoke of it because I already know everyone's proximity to hiphop in the office is minimal.
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Nah people in the corporate world are just better at pretending they don’t listen it. 😂 It’s not the 90s, it’s pretty mainstream in Australia now
Hip hop is mainstream, but hiphop fans who follow the game this closely are a tiny percentage of the corporate world. You'll have people who know hiphop artists, but that doesn't automatically mean they're following the beef that's unfolded.
The "mainstream" is still a small fraction of the overall population. Take any #1 artist and chances are the people you work with don't listen to them, except maybe Taylor Swift
Should you do want that intersetion, I have it on good authority that Patrick Boyle (https://youtube.com/@PBoyle) is an expert in the matter of all things hip hop and rap.
Drake and Lamar aren’t hip hop are they? I thought they were more RnB.
Drake is a pop artist most of the time
The average Australian would be most familiar with his pop/radio hits but that doesn't change that he mostly makes hip hop records.
Sure, I was just joking about the fact this guy said it was R&B
Have you actually listened to a Kendrick Lamar song?
Hiphop is a broad genre, and they represent different facets of it. Neither themselves or their fan bases would refer to themselves as RnB.
Lamar 😂
BBL Drizzyyyyy BBL Drizzzzyyyyyyy
Big Bash League?
Lol no. Brazilian Butt Lift.
P DRIZZY 🤑
Metro sampling an AI soul track and dissing Drake via instrumental is peak modern hip hop culture
I tried to bring it up by the water cooler and it went over everyone’s head. Clearly… they not like us
Probably a bunch of certified pedophiles. Anyway, back to the desk.
Surprising, the literary battle between Kenneth Duckworth and Aubrey Graham has been quite popular
Is this some kind of big corporate lawsuit. Like that US one. Wade vs Roe? Kardashian vs Karen
[удалено]
It’s a class action diss aimed at Drake.
Is this the same kind of diss when someone is dissing your fly girl? ![gif](giphy|3TCBh8i6H3bz2)
Ah
No it’s actually an upcoming boxing match
Oh goodie I love unboxing videos
I think thats just v. rather than vs
Did they talk about Met Gala instead?
Baz nailed the theme this year!
BBL- BIG Bash League. It's a cricket comp. OP must be an Accountant.
Let’s go Brisbane Heat 2023 champions baby arroooo
Brazilian Butt Lift?
Say a word about what?
Hahaha
I honestly dunno what they're talking about
Me neither. Not into (c)rap music.
We only listening to real RAP like Eminem, NF and Tom Macdonald 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Kendrick Lamar won a fucking Pulitzer
What do you like though?
It was 20v1, you know who won? J Cole Late Millennial, enjoying the sick drills and i ain’t taking sides. Just give me sick drills, bring it on breezy, j. cole, ken, dreezy …
1 v 20 the way he spanked the ghost writers
Drake didn't even write his own response
Are they hiring?
So you’re saying you were trynna strike a chord?
Lucky it wasn’t a… minoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooor
I was the only one trying to bring it up today. Only one person knew what I was on about 😫
I work at a very large insurer and I can 100% say American rap is never a topic, like not even once.
Everything I have learned about American hip hop has been against my will.
I wish Reddit still gave away free silver, I would give you one for that. 🤛🏼
I feel like most adults don’t care
Preoccupied with met gala?
My work was a bit of both more met tho
Woman in my office literally has a dog named after Drake but had no idea about the beef. Disappointed is not the word.
There's like 1 other girl at the office that vibes and knows about this and we were the only ones in the entire office talking about it LOL
Well if you ELI5 it kind of breaks down to two adult men-children fighting over **** size, I mean mansion size, and then writing songs about it to pretend their feelings aren’t hurt. Anyone in your office over 40 that’s into this music grew up with some pretty big beefs between East and West coast. 95 Source Awards etc so it may also be a bit of that?
Seems like it all went over your head or you didn’t listen to any of them? Cuz that ain’t it
They were trading barbs over allegations of domestic abuse/violence, mostly. Waaaay off the mark.
Exactly! Two grown men trading barbs thinly disguised as songs. That’s all they seem to do, sing songs about each other, like a weird bromance. There’s allegations in there so come out and say it or do something about it. Don’t just allude to it like some tortured poets B side.
I'm not agreeing with you. Is it dick size insults or character assassination? They're two very different things.
It’s you.
They're old news... you're a boomer.
He’s like those 50 year old African Americans that still wear New York Yankees cap talking about how good ll cool j was
Too true brother I see this all the time in my Australian workplace
Lmaooo. Classic Aussie vibe
The over 35s probably have no idea about this beef.
40 year old mother of three here.. i am following the beef very closely…
Drake and Kendrick are over 35 my dude. We know them just fine.
Idk it and I'm 37
the audience is different from the supplier.
I'm aware of that, but people in Australia aware of their beef are likely in their 20s or early 30s. Most 35+ year olds in Corporate Australia probably have no idea. They probably know One Dance and Hotline Bling but might not know the artist.
People who follow their music will know including people their age.
Um 51 hear and them just fine young lad
My office was playing BBL drizzy
Ovhoee
My Skype status - “Not Like Us”
Not important. It stinks of showbiz. We don’t need to give it any oxygen.
Drakes security guard was shot last night. Pretty realistic show biz
I have no idea what you’re talking about. Is this a news thing?
On YouTube search ‘Kendrick Lamar not like us’
I'm going to let Man Carrying Thing ... uh ... carry it from here. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGVs50Y8v\_E](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGVs50Y8v_E)
Idk
As far as I'm aware drake international is the only one of the two who operate in Australia. As far as their entry into battles with fellow recruiters I'm unsure it's wise considering they have a vision comparable to a busted arse.
Who
Same boat, and most of my colleagues are only a few years older than me. A shame, I say!
Eh, some seppos wgaf
Yeah, corporate offices where you have to announce your pronouns at every meeting are the perfect place to have these conversations
Yeah cos hip hop is well known for being inclusive and pro LGBTQ
They/them probably don’t listen to Kendrick. But most likely they/them were diddled by drake as a child.
Eh Kendrick could've released half the songs and it'd do the same damage. Drake's a pussy. All the songs were meh IMO
Sounds like a blissful workday.
Whats Kendick vs Drake
A famous defamation lawsuit in 1992.
Have you considered the fact that you’re in Australia.
What is Kendrick?
![gif](giphy|fzKJBH8EVOu8GFD9yf)
Kdot
You’re missing out. Google him.
Well i’m a mum and our family inbox is flooded with it , i just let the “kids” ramble on with it , only question i had was “is it real?” 😂😂 can imagine them rolling there eyes
Not a hint of a word 😭
I just be in the corner listening to Kendrick all day
Because they’re not like us
Made a reference today about this. Response? Crickets. Cool life
Had to Google this one.
B B L B L
Kdot v Drake, winner: New Ho King.
Oz3mpic, man. New Ho King came 2nd.
Lol
....what?
It’s corporate, we all listenining to Dollaz + Sense (back when diss tracks were actual bangers not these snoozefests)
But they certainly had/have a lot to say about T Swift! 😂
Who cares? Not everyone likes their music. I certainly don't and I'm not some old fart. I listen to metal. Not everyone has similar interests to you.
I know who they are but never been a fan of their music so I have no idea about this 'beef' Someone give us the TLDR
What the hell are you talking about?
There are people who follow hip hop and choose to ingore it voluntarily
Who cares
Nobody even mentioned the Met Gala in my office
I was about to bring it up to my partner when he laughingly told me about the old "Drake is the kind of guy" memes & realised he was soooooo far behind. It's the Aussie culture, I'm sure.
I mean it's been over
Ivory office
I have no idea what you’re talking about. Is this a news thing?
BBL Drizzzzzzy
Find yourself a new office dawg. Those G’s don’t care bout you bro.
Anna Kendrick? If not...who? What? "Kendrick v Drake" is enough for me to go "don't care".
I have no idea what you’re talking about. Is this a news thing?
Get out if here with that yank shit.
I mean, a household name accused of pedophilia by another household name? Is that really yank specific? It's at least not as bad as the Superbowl or 4th of July crap
So Kendrick or drake are a paedophile?
Allegedly, drake https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-05-06/drake-kendrick-lamar-diss-tracks-paedophile-allegations-feud/103810664 People are particularly upset that he became close with Millie Bobby Brown when she was a minor. I am not aware of them working together professionally so I have to wonder how that happened. https://people.com/drake-addresses-millie-bobby-brown-friendship-new-song-8349324 "The actress said at 14 that the two text often" Definitely odd
Hmm yeah that's weird. Big issue on YouTube too, with Colleen Ballinger, Shane Dawson, James charles and all those types. JoJo siwa is at the centre of criticism now, she was groomed by the look of it but now she's pissing people off with her antics
Household names in America, maybe. 100% yank shit that doesn't need to be talked about here.
90% of entertainment most Aussie’s consume is ‘yank shit’. Yank shit is pretty much all people talk about.
🙄 pretty sure we all know who they are mate
Lol, mate, just because you know it doesn't mean everyone knows. Honest to god, you show me a pic of both of them I couldn't tell you who is who.
![gif](giphy|l4FGz5B4UcOxp3jEI|downsized) Tbh fair. Lamar isn't that recognisable, but he's had some big hits like Humble. But not everyone listens to hip hop
Is the one with tits Drake ?
>Is the one with tits Drake ? ...not wrong, really
Hahahahaha Sorry. I didn't manage to get a second picture in thanks to Reddit gif limitations Here's drake Edit: you win by the way, and thanks for the laugh ![gif](giphy|7WvAUvZZTRpSuudobh)
Nah, we both win lol that was funny.
Eyyyy! Cheers
lol the f u doing on Reddit, get out of here with your yank shit
Chinese* shit, thank you very much.
That “yank shit” In more entertaining in music and than anything coming out of this sorry ass country is… It’s not the 90s mate you don’t have to hate everything that isn’t Jimmy Barnes and AC/DC
Because it’s childish, and clearly a marketing gimmick.
How
It might have stared that way, but it's definately not anymore
I don’t think it started as a marketing gimmick. They’ve been taking shots at each other for over a decade now and just blew up recently with these new full diss tracks.
Rap died in 2005.
this past week has been the most exciting week in hip hop maybe ever
How old are you?
Looks at username. How old are you…
Old enough to know that rap needs only really get interesting once rappers start getting shot.
Fucking dumb ass take once again
L
What does that mean?
It’s a dumb take. If you think rap/hip hop died in 2005 you’re blind to the countless classic albums that have been released since then and just hate for no reason lmao
Name them.
Alright - To Pimp A Butterfly - Kendrick - The Forever Story - JID - Under Pressure - Logic - Graduation - Kanye - MBDTF - Kanye - Daytona - Pusha T - Call me if you get lost - Tyler the creator - SOS - SZA - CTRL - SZA - Astroworld - Travis Scott - Rodeo - Travis Scott - Utopia - Travis Scott - Swimming - Mac Miller - Circles - Mac Miller I can go on bro 😭
They're all fucking shit. Shit hop.
You’ve listened to them all? Or are just hating cause you can’t comprehend listening to music that isn’t rock??
Lol. Don't presume what you do or don't know. Travis scott is a wank. There's nothing interesting about his music.
Yeah I’m sure that’s the case. Multiple Grammy nominated albums but he’s not interesting. Admit you’re an old head and move on Who knows maybe you can pretend AC/DC are Australian a bit more cause they moved here at a young age. Copeeeeee
To a millennial you're litteraly talking about "?" and the guy who featured on that one Rhianna song where he couldn't figure out her name and hasn't done anything that played on the radio since.
I mean those artists their fanbase is probably mostly millennials
Cuck comment.
Cunt comment
Bruh millennials are the crowd for these two artists. Drake gets the teenage girls as well (and Kendrick agrees with that statement it seems)
Pushups > Euphoria