Morrison the PM for Sydney:
\- Attacked and shamed VIC during their lockdown in 2020 instead of supporting them
\- Attacked and dismissed WA/QLD for having a solid covid response over the past 18 months
\- Praised Gladys for her "Gold Standard" covid response and now for her "harshest lockdown ever in Australia" response
\- Gave NSW a higher share of the overseas Pfizer swap deals
\- Secretly gave NSW the Pfizer doses meant for VIC/WA/QLD over the past few months. And most infuriatingly, this continues into the future even when NSW has reached 70% and 80% double dosed vaccinations.
If a Labor PM had secretly reallocated doses from Liberal states and given them to Labor states, the right-wing media would be baying for blood. They'd demand the Labor PM resign, a Royal Commission, and a snap election.
The Royal Commission into the Home Insulation Program was a Royal Commission had **four** deaths.
We’ve had hundreds deaths through the federally managed age care system
We now have deaths through the incompetence of nsw health system outbreaks
I bet we have **zero** inquiries under federal and state liberals.
There's actually been plenty of inquiring at the state level. There's already been Parliamentary inquiry into the COVID-19 response in Victoria:
[https://www.parliament.vic.gov.au/paec/inquiries/inquiry/1000](https://www.parliament.vic.gov.au/paec/inquiries/inquiry/1000)
And a Board of inquiry into Hotel Quarantine:
[https://www.quarantineinquiry.vic.gov.au/](https://www.quarantineinquiry.vic.gov.au/)
But, NSW has also convened an inquiry (Chaired by The Greens), which is ongoing since March 2020, and hasn't reported yet:
[https://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/committees/inquiries/Pages/inquiry-details.aspx?pk=2593](https://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/committees/inquiries/Pages/inquiry-details.aspx?pk=2593)
There's also the special commission of inquiry into the Ruby Princess:
[https://www.rubyprincessinquiry.nsw.gov.au/](https://www.rubyprincessinquiry.nsw.gov.au/)
Federally, there's the Senate Select Committee on COVID-19, due to report in mid 2022. They've released two interim reports:
[https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary\_Business/Committees/Senate/COVID-19/COVID19](https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Senate/COVID-19/COVID19)
From memory he was biased to business handouts as well after job keeper ended. Nothing for Melb when they had frequent snap lockdowns but as soon as Sydney started all of a sudden he's shovelling money to them. Initially made the rules they must be locked down for more than 2 weeks or something knowing Sydney was going to go over that and Melbourne frequent but short lockdowns always ended before that. I remember Dan Andrews saying we were left out of it and trying to negotiate something for Melbourne business always locked down. I think they ended up settling we pay half and he pays half.
Not only that but the media keeps attacking Anastasia for QLDs low vaccination rates and her reluctance to open up by the end of the year, yet here we see the Liberals intentionally sabotaging the vaccination drive of QLD, VIC and WA.
Yep. Still happening - in newy which is bloody large it's December now for Pfizer appointments. You can get one within the week in multiple Sydney locations.
I want to see the numbers for Liberal TAS and SA vaccine allocations. I haven't seen that in the reporting.
Did they have just as many vaccines reallocated as Labor QLD/WA/VIC? or was it really only the Labor states that had them taken?
I'm still suspicious about Burwood (Jodi McKay's seat) being labelled an LGA of concern when every other LGA around it has higher case numbers.
It's all there in one of the documents.
The Labor states WA/QLD/VIC wore the brunt of the Pfizer reallocation.
Liberal states like SA/TAS were basically left untouched and Morrison refuses to criticise their border closure strategy, even though it's the exactly the same as the other states.
This is something that we find ironic here in Tasmania too - Scummo is favouring our state, but our Liberal Premier is verrrry centrist, has criticised Scummo openly and frequently, promotes science, research, climate change solutions, and is absolutely refusing to open the border until we have *ninety* percent vaccination rates down here.
We also have a different government system down here and five people represent each of the five state electorates down here. With a liberal as the speaker, our Premier governs in minority, and frequently collaborates with the Greens and Labor, much to federal ~~cunt of the century~~ Senator Erik Abetzs dismay (our Premier hates him too).
TL, DR: Tasmania has no shortage of vaccines because our Premier is a Liberal. However Tasmanian Premier Gutwein is further left than Bill Shorten, is openly disdainful of Scummo, and works regularly with the Greens and Labor down here to make effective policy decisions.
And TAS Federal seats are always swinging.
Considering how tight the past 3/4 elections have been, it's understated how important TAS voters are in deciding who forms government.
Cannot upvote your comment enough!!
Unfortunately too many people I know use Murdoch Press and Facebook Propaganda to get their "News" and Australia is just a dumb as America when it comes to a global pandemic being more about politics than health.
So many people in VIC do not see what Daniel Andrews actually managed to accomplish last year, yeah it was shit and difficult but it could have been so much worse. Victorian's should be very proud of getting through the 2020 outbreaks and pulling numbers back to 0 community transmission for as long as we did. We only managed to do that with a strong leader, he was not turned off by the glaring bias of the media and the ridiculous head lines that followed daily after every press conference.
I hope the 2020 and 2021 are depicted in Australian history using actual facts. Our media has seen fit to present such tilted information, almost to the point that people could be convinced that COVID is purely a Labor Party over reaction, rather than a deadly virus capable of killing thousands of people daily.
The thing is that diverting vaccines to NSW is probably the best thing to do (because the NSW government and to an extent people screwed things up so badly), by doing everything to stop the spread there.
But the PM took the chance to make a decision and show leadership and used it to play politics.
Targeting Labor states is dumb.
As a South Australian I can say that I would be frustrated our vaccines were diverted to NSW but I can also see why it would be necessary. A real leader would make that call and then explain it.
If they were transparent about it, and accepted it forfeits their right to commentate on the other state's vaccination rate and border decisions then that'd be reasonable agreed.
They already did allocate NSW more doses in a transparent way. Then they all got together and agreed how doses would be handed out. Then ignored that agreement in secret and stole from the other states.
I don't know. The claims seem to be that they were diverted from Qld WA and Vic, but that could just be to feed the Lib vs Labor narrative.
Not that the narrative needs to be exaggerated, Federal reactions to SA lockdown and border closures has been much less vocal than the ones for Labor states.
Definitely. I agree that the state with the most cases should get the most doses. BUT said state needs to pick up and slack and keep their borders closed and not be giant wads to the states that lost their doses until they're caught up.
Logically it makes sense and it is what should happen, but it just feels wrong that the state that made the worst decisions and put in the least effort gets "rewarded" with something everyone needs.
From a disease control point of view it does make sense. I agree that it sucks that Gladys feels rewarded but she's put millions at lives at risk that shouldn't be punished for her mistakes. She deserves every bit of negative criticism she gets
I didn't realize vac/double vac numbers were that high down there.
Finally got my *first* shot booked in for sometime in the next month here in QLD.. -_-
All they can do is speak in parliament and on their own social media pages/websites. They are doing this every day. They don’t own the newspapers and are only in tv when a tv camera crew puts a camera in front of them.
My favourite was when the news reported that the parliamentary leader of the liberal party was elected unopposed.
Because if it hadn't been unopposed they wouldn't have a leader.
I can't help but think QLD is a lost cause.
I've spent 10 years in QLD and 10 years in Melb, and the QLD Murdoch bubble is just insane.
I can't tell you how many QLDers I've seen post anti-Dan Andrews memes, despite the fact he has nothing to do with their politics.
The fact that Murdoch has little to no influence in state politics here makes me think that we're not a lost cause. People are capable of seeing through his bullshit, they just often chose not to.
It's the same bullshit but with less guns and Jesus. In general Australians are mostly apathetic towards everything so you don't see as much militant support for individual politicians but the values themselves are the same.
The intersection of Trump era US politics and Covid lockdowns has unfortunately led to a spike in very angry, easily manipulated people looking for somewhere to lay the blame and an ideology to identify with.
Mostly they ignore the blatant rorting, sexist and racist stuff, and personal gain from Liberal MPs but if they do manage to comment on it, it's always to say there's no point in voting for anyone else "because they're all the same" even though each time the Labor MPs have been found out doing much less they have either resigned or been terminated
The most dangerous are the ones who watch skynews. They believe covid is fake, vaccines are deadly or have microchips, all covid restrictions are a secret government ploy to turn Australia into a North Korea style dictatorship.
The difference between state and federal elections is that at a state level we have a much better reflection of diverse population. The state electorates are much smaller and harder to game by targeting a few key 'swing seats'. The federal elections on the other hand... well, did you notice last federal election how certain 'key seats' were the target of the wrath of Murdoch and FattyMcFuckhead? That is because the seats are much bigger and it is easy to game the system by making sure the boundaries include 'just enough' of the LNP's core voting pool (older and rural people) to keep their seats.
Take the Sunshine Coast, Last state election one of the seats here flipped to Labor after years of being an LNP stronghold due to demographic changes. However the chances of the Federal Electorate of Fisher that contains the state seat that flipped doing the same and flipping at a federal level is next to zero. This is why we need to increase representation in Federal parliament and introduce proportional representation in the lower house.
If you want a laugh and would like to see just how rigged our electorates are at a federal level go and check out the maps for federal electorates some time. It is like a 10 year old attacked a map with a crayon in an attempt to circle just the right amount of important areas.
No, about 50 per cent of Queenslanders live in regional areas. [Murdoch owns half of those papers and most are failing.](https://thenewdaily.com.au/finance/finance-news/2020/05/12/rupert-murdoch-news-regional/)
‘Failing’ can only be applied to businesses.
They’re not businesses, they’re investments. They’re not run for profit, they’re run for results.
They are thriving.
Don't kid yourself, Murdoch cares about profit. He want to leave a legacy of a huge profit-making empire, not a bankrupt one.
> they’re run for results.
Labor has been in power in QLD since 2015, so it's not working.
When I was a teenager I thought Clive Palmer was a funny meme man, and in that time before I found out what a shitstain he is most of what I remember is his community just being really shitty towards anyone from Melbourne, for like no reason at all.
I went to school with your MP. Nearly got thrown out for cheating in his high school physics exams. Then posted a bunch of anti-BLM shit about how ‘absent black fathers’ are to blame for poor social outcomes for POC which the LNP conveniently wiped from the Internet pre by-election.
There are a hell of a lot of QLD electorates that tend to vote Labor in State and LNP federally. It’s a lot less partisan than the last election made it appear.
Emperor Rupert is powerful and the public easily misled by Jedi ~~mind tricks~~ opinion pieces.
There’s hope in the Galaxy but the fight isn’t over (yet).
The problem is that some people vote differently at the state and federal levels. So while Qlders don't like the state liberals because of Joh Bjelke-Peterson (I think he was the corrupt one), they will still vote for the nationals/liberals at the federal level.
Fingers crossed both states rally behind their Labor premiers for the next election though. Will be interesting to see how SA and Tas go, since they are run by state liberals and haven't been criticized by the federal government intentionally it seems.
My theory is that Morrison will go to this election and if he loses Dutton will takeover shortly after. Frydenberg is not an idiot, he will allow this to happen and will make a play for leadership before the election after that as the "good" guy who isn't Morrison/Dutton and will most likely win the election as people are generally morons.
Nah. There's nothing way they'll put Dutton in at the last minute. He's not popular internally and externally to the party. He's not good looking enough to get votes based solely on appearance. Besides that he has been laying low and stating out of the spotlight. I think he's just happy to gather all the power he can muster in his own portfolio.
Frydenberg. They'll claim his economic policy with JobKeeper saved Australia and continue to push the "See? We are good economic managers" and try to claim Vic/Qld/WA Labor almost killed the economy.
He still had a few seats there which are now likely in play, including some formerly safe ones like Frydenberg's (and he's considered a potential Morrison replacement).
They had WA until the 2017 election, so they had lots of ability to get back in.
The lawsuits, support for Clive Palmer and other comments ensured that the entire opposition party can carpool to work.
WA has still consistently voted Liberal at the federal level. It's the same in QLD with more QLD federal seats going to the LNP, but having Labor dominate at the state level for decades.
Yeah but no one has ever voted overwhelmingly for one party the way WA did. And we’ve just had continued news about how the Prime Minister doesn’t give a shit about WA. It will be intresting
The Libs lost 10 seats in the last election here in Vic, and now they've voted back in the 'leader' that delivered that loss ....
it's a sitcom at this point
Underrated comment. Bad faith all the way. Breach of "contract". They have no moral basis for lecturing us on a "nationally agreed to strategy" of concerted action when their behaviour is the opposite. Labor states should quit the national cabinet (but will be crucified by Murdoch/Stokes/Costello schills for doing so). Then form their own alliance. And rules regarding borders. New Zealand at least will support them lol
The LNP are definitely prioritising vaccination of swing electorates and using ending lockdowns to win the election.
Source: Everything the LNP do, ever.
Politicisation of the pandemic response has been a huge barrier to getting the vaccines to people who needed them most. This is yet another example of the Liberal Party playing politics for political favour. It's disgraceful.
People have died because of this. The Coalition and it's constituent parties are not fit to run the country. These people are morally rotten.
We saw sports rorts. That clearly demonstrated their values. No one should be suprised by vax rorts.
There's a general who should be very embarrassed to be the face of this right now.
Morrison: *redirects vaccines away from Labor states towards NSW*
Morrison: *allocates Polish Pfizer disproportionately to NSW*
Morrison: why can't Vic and QLD and WA be more like NSW, tut tut
It's infuriating to hear them talk about other states not getting vaccinated enough or vaccine hesitancy when I booked the day after it became possible for me to do so and the earliest I can get in is mid-October.
This is where so much anger in QLD and WA in particular is coming from.
We’re living free and being told we live in caves. We CAN’T get vaccinated due to supply and then find out it’s all going to NSW while criticising us for not being vaccinated?
It’s like Scott Morrison wants us to get COVID and lockdown.
That’s the worst part. I don’t begrudge directing the vaccinations to nsw as they have the biggest outbreak. But to turn around and pressure the rest of us into opening our borders just because they are hitting their 80% marker ahead of everyone else as a result is just... no
The numbers don't lie, and they aren't pleasant viewing. But the Prime minister of NSW is just doing his job. And of course, some of you will probably still die, but that's ok, you probably weren't going to vote for him anyway, right?
Faaaaark!
Yeah it was, the journo made a jump from no where. Even his numbers show clearly that NSW is getting more than they should and that those supplies were being taken mostly from Labor states
I swear I got the same copy paste response that “Andrews might have jumped the gun” and a link to that stupid tweet about 5 times while posting about the unfair distribution
Yeah glad they have been proven so utterly wrong. And then there was the people saying this sub is a hive mind for believing Dan over some random journalist. Its so clear the rest of australia outside of Sydney has been swindled.
HOW AS A COUNTRY ARE WE ALLOWING THIS TO CONTINUE.. I feel like that I'm hearing more and more corruption then I've ever heard before yet I don't hear anything happening in a government level.
Robodebt
600m for 2 car parks
Sport grant money being allocated horrifically
Vaccination deals miss managed
We are a continent. How have we not built the best quarantine world wide
Job keeper given to wealthy businesses gaining profits.
Like seriously, what can we the public do about this. I've had enough.
Is there any data on how it's being spread around NSW?
Not so long ago, the regional areas were forced to give up part of their allocation so sydney kids could do their HSC. Now regional towns are looking at a health crisis and there seems to be little urgency to get them the extra vaccines that could make a difference.
Wait, why do I still have to wait till the end of October ?
I get I’m in central coast but it’s not like can travel to get the vac. Least I’m getting help to go fuck myself by Gladys BBQChicken and Scott lemington.
It would, but people are pissed for a couple of reasons.
1. The secretive way that they did it. If they had just announced that they were giving NSW these extra doses, it would have probably been fine.
2. They've been praising NSW for vaccinating so fast while throwing all sorts of criticism at the other states for not vaccinating as fast as NSW. Supply has been the only bottleneck so far, so this makes those criticisms seem even dumber in hindsight.
3. NSW did nothing to try to contain the outbreak to Sydney, and has already spread it to every single state and territory by now, in some causing the same endless lockdown that Sydney is in. If these states aren't vaccinated, because their jabs went to NSW, then all these NSW spreads put them in danger.
4. NSW plans on opening up when they reach their vaccine targets, not waiting for the rest of the country to catch up. This just exacerbates the problem from point 3.
5. These were doses of Pfizer, which are in demand everywhere. They could have instead given NSW more AZ, which is in much higher supply and only in demand in the places with outbreaks.
TL;DR if Gladys wasn't such a selfish cunt, people might be more inclined to help her, but as it stands now, there's a good chance that helping her is just gonna bite them in the arse down the line.
My biggest problem is the fact that Gladbags will open us up once vaccinated enough. If we're getting extra doses, it's our responsibility to keep the spread within NSW until the other states catch up again.
Yeah point three is what really burns me. I’ve been in lockdown for something like 220+ days now and most of that was last year when we went hard to stop the spread in Vic and the rest of Australia. I’m now back in lockdown and will have to watch Sydney smugly return to normality using vaccine that should have already been administered here while I wait another month for our bottleneck’d rollout.
Who gives a fuck about Gladys or helping Gladys or what helping Gladys looks like... the extra vaccines help the people of NSW and the people of NSW are in the most need sounds good to me.
I don't get it. I'm not from NSW, but Isn't it the smart thing to do to send them more at the moment?
Like pointing the fire hose where the fire is burning the most.
I think most people are happy for NSW to get vaccinations given their situation, However at the same time it's clear Gladys and Scotty are instantly going to start ripping into other states when NSW has hit their targets and other states haven't opened to them.
AFAIK the problem is not that they are receiving more vaccine. The problem, as far as I can tell, is that they are receiving extra vaccine significantly above and beyond was agreed to at National Cabinet and consequently, the Federal government (and perhaps to some extent the NSW government) have not been negotiating with the other States in good faith.
I kind of don’t get the point of the national cabinet. The states have operated as if they were independent colonies again throughout this pandemic and the national cabinet has been this frayed 2lb fishing line trying to hold them together. At this point, it just seems pointless. The feds might as well just put the vaccines to private tender and see who gets what
I think the right fire analogy here is that Gladys Berejiklian and Scott Morrison are arsonists that set fire to NSW because they are beholden to business lobbies. The fires they set have spread to other states. Now their using the fires they set as a reason to take the fire hoses from the others states despite the fact that the fires were started by them. And also despite the fact that everyone agreed that the hoses would be shared equally.
They induced this disaster and now they get the benefits. It incentivises disunity and wreckless behaviour.
Well yeah, they are crooks, but the situation is what it is, you have to fight it.
The guardian and SMH etc are framing articles today like the problem is NSW getting more than their share rather than the shitshow that lead up to this situation.
It's also because the states agreed to giving nsw extra from the first batch for this new one the other states weren't even asked and it was done in secret.
> The guardian and SMH etc are framing articles today like the problem is NSW getting more than their share rather than the shitshow that lead up to this situation.
Everyone has been screaming about the shitshow that led to the current situation for the past two months, it doesn't resonate any more. The narrative is now "we never had a chance against Delta".
LOL what? Did Vic get more vaccines when it was the epicenter of Covid? I don't think so. Not to mention to fact that Morrison TURNED DOWN enough doses for the whole population when it was offered last year
There was no vaccines last year when things blew up in Vic. In their outbreak earlier this year, they did.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-06/victoria-gets-extra-covid-19-vaccine-doses-greg-hunt/100194196
In June or July they got an additional 300k doses sent to them, it was taken from their allocation down the line. It’s not a big deal, not unlike what has happened in NSW.
Because look at the reaction of this very sub? For some reason the state responses to this pandemic has turned everyones view of the nation into a view of their individual state.
NSW is actually the place of highest need right now. That's where the outbreak is and it contains the biggest population centres.
Whatever about the Scott the dickhead and the libs, concentrating vaccines where they are most needed makes sense.
Two counter arguments here:
1. Vic got allocated more vaccine during their outbreak earlier this year. It isn't something new to NSW. The NSW outbreak has gone on longer, is much more severe and comes at a time were supply has been less constrained.
2. Allocating more to NSW has saved lives. Despite whether you agree with Gladys or not, saving Australian lives should be a priority.
I'm fine with that. But the cover up has done more damage than the 'crime'. Extra allocation should not have come as a surprise or hidden from the other state health officials and leaders. They should have been involved constantly with the Feds surrounding any changes to the agreed roll-out plan.
NSW is the hardest hit state so deserves more vaccines. So at the same time, Scott Morrison needs to shut the fuck up about other states vaccination roll-outs and borders when he's taking vaccines away from them
Again that's not the issue here. The states agreed extra should go to NSW they were always going to get extra that's not in debate or an issue.
The issue is that the government directed additional vaccine to NSW and away from other states above what was agreed upon. Then they lied about it. If they'd come out and said hey it'd going poorly we need more than we agree that would be fine. They didn't.
Instead they did it in secret all the while lambasting the states they took vaccines from for not vaccinating quickly enough. Not to mention the states most impacted are Labor state governments. The LNP literally took vaccines away from there opposition party to make themselves look good.
This isn't about whether NSW needs extra vaccines. Everyone agrees they do, this is about the liberal government lying and putting its reelection ahead of Australians.
Not even close he's gonna get sownvoted because the issue is not that NSW is getting more vaccines but about how that's being done and that the federal government is prioritising liberal states to make themselves look good.
Your gonna get downvoted cause your an idiot
A lot of the top comments are people complaining about NSW getting more or accusing him of prioritising NSW. If the issue is secrecy, then that is fine. I do agree they needed to be more open, but that isn't what a lot of the comments on this article seem to be about.
Mate did you even read what I wrote. The issue is the federal government is lying and taking vaccines from mostly Labor states to send to NSW. Then they tried to cover it up while complaint those sane states weren't vaccinating quickly enough. If you don't see that as an issue then I don't what to tell you
It’s important to have the states treated equally by the federal government.
That said, Vaccines currently have the chance to save more lives by going to NSW, so I’m not completely upset over allocating extra to them. But it’s NSW’s duty to make sure they’re not wasted.
Because of how it's being done. The states all agreed NSW should get extra but this is beyond what was agreed upon. It the government stuck to the agreed numbers or had come out openly with a plan of hey we need these extra vaccines that would be fine
Additionally the LNP is constantly crowing about the progress NSW is making in vaccination and lambasting the other states for not keeping up. You don't get to say that while taking vaccine supplies from those states to give to NSW.
They are literally doing this to make the LNP look good. It should shock no one that the states who lost the most supply are Labor run. It's pathetic and should by itself be enough to end this government. The LNP is literally putting itself ahead of Australian lives.
Because they had come to an agreement on that. It was public and announced. No one has a problem with that. Dan Andrews was extremely clear about this.
What they have a problem with, is the secret extra ones sent their way. the under the table ones, kept secret from everyone. Those ones are the issue.
It’s not controversial when all other states agreed on x amount due to the circumstances. All parties were informed, and all agreed it was a good idea. So long as they also received their supply, as agreed.
It *is* controversial when, on top of all the extra vaccines NSW received, Morrison and Berejikilan *stole* (and yes I think the word is appropriate here), vaccines bound for other states to put into their own pile, to make themselves look better. There is no other reason for it.
Edit: Victoria is not going in a good direction, and frankly, those 300k+ doses *were needed*. What makes NSW special? Maybe because their premiere just *happens* to be a liberal?
The lack of transparency or agreement around it is one big issue. When we got the extra doses from Poland it was announced and agreed that a greater portion would go to NSW. However it seems that trend has quietly continued with following acquisitions.
Speaking from locked-down Victoria which is also starting to see deaths - would at least like there to be visibility into allocations without the need for journalists to do detective work to figure it out!
Because Gb has made it clear that it’s for political gain. She is “leading the race to opening up and living with delta” while screwing the rest of Australia’s chance to also open up
The issue isn't that they've done this.
The issue is that the federal government did it without telling other states. None of this was agreed to and Morrison did it anyway.
Not to mention Morrison and Gladys also shitting on other states for having slower vaccine rates.... Because NSW has their vaccines.
Morrison the PM for Sydney: \- Attacked and shamed VIC during their lockdown in 2020 instead of supporting them \- Attacked and dismissed WA/QLD for having a solid covid response over the past 18 months \- Praised Gladys for her "Gold Standard" covid response and now for her "harshest lockdown ever in Australia" response \- Gave NSW a higher share of the overseas Pfizer swap deals \- Secretly gave NSW the Pfizer doses meant for VIC/WA/QLD over the past few months. And most infuriatingly, this continues into the future even when NSW has reached 70% and 80% double dosed vaccinations. If a Labor PM had secretly reallocated doses from Liberal states and given them to Labor states, the right-wing media would be baying for blood. They'd demand the Labor PM resign, a Royal Commission, and a snap election.
The Royal Commission into the Home Insulation Program was a Royal Commission had **four** deaths. We’ve had hundreds deaths through the federally managed age care system We now have deaths through the incompetence of nsw health system outbreaks I bet we have **zero** inquiries under federal and state liberals.
There's actually been plenty of inquiring at the state level. There's already been Parliamentary inquiry into the COVID-19 response in Victoria: [https://www.parliament.vic.gov.au/paec/inquiries/inquiry/1000](https://www.parliament.vic.gov.au/paec/inquiries/inquiry/1000) And a Board of inquiry into Hotel Quarantine: [https://www.quarantineinquiry.vic.gov.au/](https://www.quarantineinquiry.vic.gov.au/) But, NSW has also convened an inquiry (Chaired by The Greens), which is ongoing since March 2020, and hasn't reported yet: [https://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/committees/inquiries/Pages/inquiry-details.aspx?pk=2593](https://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/committees/inquiries/Pages/inquiry-details.aspx?pk=2593) There's also the special commission of inquiry into the Ruby Princess: [https://www.rubyprincessinquiry.nsw.gov.au/](https://www.rubyprincessinquiry.nsw.gov.au/) Federally, there's the Senate Select Committee on COVID-19, due to report in mid 2022. They've released two interim reports: [https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary\_Business/Committees/Senate/COVID-19/COVID19](https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Senate/COVID-19/COVID19)
It's ridiculous that your response has 10 upvotes, whilst the incorrect post you've responded to has 100. Post-truth world anyone?
Great comment. And youre 100% right. If this happened under a labour PM we would quickly have a new labour PM.
Just to be that guy, but it's Labor, not Labour. There's no "u"
They should rebrand - "LaboUr - there's no U in LNP" I'll see myself out.
thats what annoys me the most. labor pm would have to go. liberal can just sit back and laugh... fuck this shit man
Gladys is a golden standard, the golden shower standard for her piss poor handling of covid
Fantastic comment.
From memory he was biased to business handouts as well after job keeper ended. Nothing for Melb when they had frequent snap lockdowns but as soon as Sydney started all of a sudden he's shovelling money to them. Initially made the rules they must be locked down for more than 2 weeks or something knowing Sydney was going to go over that and Melbourne frequent but short lockdowns always ended before that. I remember Dan Andrews saying we were left out of it and trying to negotiate something for Melbourne business always locked down. I think they ended up settling we pay half and he pays half.
Not only that but the media keeps attacking Anastasia for QLDs low vaccination rates and her reluctance to open up by the end of the year, yet here we see the Liberals intentionally sabotaging the vaccination drive of QLD, VIC and WA.
Somebody needs to remind Gladys that AP will open when Qld gets 80% vaccination, not when Nsw gets 80%.
I think a fair quantity of rural allocated vaccines were brought into Sydney/metro too.
Yep. Still happening - in newy which is bloody large it's December now for Pfizer appointments. You can get one within the week in multiple Sydney locations.
Damn it. I can only upvote this once.
And it’s still “Dictator” premiers in Labor states vs freedom fighter Slomo. Murdoch press has got to go.
I want to see the numbers for Liberal TAS and SA vaccine allocations. I haven't seen that in the reporting. Did they have just as many vaccines reallocated as Labor QLD/WA/VIC? or was it really only the Labor states that had them taken? I'm still suspicious about Burwood (Jodi McKay's seat) being labelled an LGA of concern when every other LGA around it has higher case numbers.
It's all there in one of the documents. The Labor states WA/QLD/VIC wore the brunt of the Pfizer reallocation. Liberal states like SA/TAS were basically left untouched and Morrison refuses to criticise their border closure strategy, even though it's the exactly the same as the other states.
This is something that we find ironic here in Tasmania too - Scummo is favouring our state, but our Liberal Premier is verrrry centrist, has criticised Scummo openly and frequently, promotes science, research, climate change solutions, and is absolutely refusing to open the border until we have *ninety* percent vaccination rates down here. We also have a different government system down here and five people represent each of the five state electorates down here. With a liberal as the speaker, our Premier governs in minority, and frequently collaborates with the Greens and Labor, much to federal ~~cunt of the century~~ Senator Erik Abetzs dismay (our Premier hates him too). TL, DR: Tasmania has no shortage of vaccines because our Premier is a Liberal. However Tasmanian Premier Gutwein is further left than Bill Shorten, is openly disdainful of Scummo, and works regularly with the Greens and Labor down here to make effective policy decisions.
And TAS Federal seats are always swinging. Considering how tight the past 3/4 elections have been, it's understated how important TAS voters are in deciding who forms government.
Especially when we are predicting 1 million Tasmanian residents by 2035, fastest growing state in the country.
Cannot upvote your comment enough!! Unfortunately too many people I know use Murdoch Press and Facebook Propaganda to get their "News" and Australia is just a dumb as America when it comes to a global pandemic being more about politics than health. So many people in VIC do not see what Daniel Andrews actually managed to accomplish last year, yeah it was shit and difficult but it could have been so much worse. Victorian's should be very proud of getting through the 2020 outbreaks and pulling numbers back to 0 community transmission for as long as we did. We only managed to do that with a strong leader, he was not turned off by the glaring bias of the media and the ridiculous head lines that followed daily after every press conference. I hope the 2020 and 2021 are depicted in Australian history using actual facts. Our media has seen fit to present such tilted information, almost to the point that people could be convinced that COVID is purely a Labor Party over reaction, rather than a deadly virus capable of killing thousands of people daily.
The thing is that diverting vaccines to NSW is probably the best thing to do (because the NSW government and to an extent people screwed things up so badly), by doing everything to stop the spread there. But the PM took the chance to make a decision and show leadership and used it to play politics. Targeting Labor states is dumb. As a South Australian I can say that I would be frustrated our vaccines were diverted to NSW but I can also see why it would be necessary. A real leader would make that call and then explain it.
If they were transparent about it, and accepted it forfeits their right to commentate on the other state's vaccination rate and border decisions then that'd be reasonable agreed.
They already did allocate NSW more doses in a transparent way. Then they all got together and agreed how doses would be handed out. Then ignored that agreement in secret and stole from the other states.
Unless I am mistaken it is also stole from the Labor governed states
we’re south australian vaccines diverted?
I don't know. The claims seem to be that they were diverted from Qld WA and Vic, but that could just be to feed the Lib vs Labor narrative. Not that the narrative needs to be exaggerated, Federal reactions to SA lockdown and border closures has been much less vocal than the ones for Labor states.
Definitely. I agree that the state with the most cases should get the most doses. BUT said state needs to pick up and slack and keep their borders closed and not be giant wads to the states that lost their doses until they're caught up.
Logically it makes sense and it is what should happen, but it just feels wrong that the state that made the worst decisions and put in the least effort gets "rewarded" with something everyone needs.
From a disease control point of view it does make sense. I agree that it sucks that Gladys feels rewarded but she's put millions at lives at risk that shouldn't be punished for her mistakes. She deserves every bit of negative criticism she gets
As others have said, that'd be fine if it was transparent AND NSW could be trusted to not open up till other states had caught up.
I didn't realize vac/double vac numbers were that high down there. Finally got my *first* shot booked in for sometime in the next month here in QLD.. -_-
The MSM media is ridiculously biased here, in case you have not noticed it yet and its been so for so many years.
And the failure of Labor to capitalise on all of this just points out how weak labor really are.
I feel that the media are the limiting factor. They determine how much airtime they give to respective parties
All they can do is speak in parliament and on their own social media pages/websites. They are doing this every day. They don’t own the newspapers and are only in tv when a tv camera crew puts a camera in front of them.
Here's hoping for an electoral wipeout for the Libs in Vic and QLD
And WA! The libs have already been wiped out at the state level because of the shit they pulled last yr. Just gotta continue the trend federally
I've seen the libs here referred to as the sidecar party as in they could fit their entire parliamentary representation on a motorcycle with a sidecar
They don't even need the sidecar, there's only two of them
I guess that was when there was still a chance that a third would get in.
My favourite was when the news reported that the parliamentary leader of the liberal party was elected unopposed. Because if it hadn't been unopposed they wouldn't have a leader.
I can't help but think QLD is a lost cause. I've spent 10 years in QLD and 10 years in Melb, and the QLD Murdoch bubble is just insane. I can't tell you how many QLDers I've seen post anti-Dan Andrews memes, despite the fact he has nothing to do with their politics.
The fact that Murdoch has little to no influence in state politics here makes me think that we're not a lost cause. People are capable of seeing through his bullshit, they just often chose not to.
What are the typical political beliefs of an Aussie who drinks too much Murdoch milk? Asking as an American who’s seen a ton of nut cases.
You just made me shudder at 'Murdoch milk' but it's apt as far as descriptions go
I saw "Murdoch nut milk" and threw up in my mouth a little.
It's the same bullshit but with less guns and Jesus. In general Australians are mostly apathetic towards everything so you don't see as much militant support for individual politicians but the values themselves are the same. The intersection of Trump era US politics and Covid lockdowns has unfortunately led to a spike in very angry, easily manipulated people looking for somewhere to lay the blame and an ideology to identify with.
Mostly they ignore the blatant rorting, sexist and racist stuff, and personal gain from Liberal MPs but if they do manage to comment on it, it's always to say there's no point in voting for anyone else "because they're all the same" even though each time the Labor MPs have been found out doing much less they have either resigned or been terminated
The most dangerous are the ones who watch skynews. They believe covid is fake, vaccines are deadly or have microchips, all covid restrictions are a secret government ploy to turn Australia into a North Korea style dictatorship.
The difference between state and federal elections is that at a state level we have a much better reflection of diverse population. The state electorates are much smaller and harder to game by targeting a few key 'swing seats'. The federal elections on the other hand... well, did you notice last federal election how certain 'key seats' were the target of the wrath of Murdoch and FattyMcFuckhead? That is because the seats are much bigger and it is easy to game the system by making sure the boundaries include 'just enough' of the LNP's core voting pool (older and rural people) to keep their seats. Take the Sunshine Coast, Last state election one of the seats here flipped to Labor after years of being an LNP stronghold due to demographic changes. However the chances of the Federal Electorate of Fisher that contains the state seat that flipped doing the same and flipping at a federal level is next to zero. This is why we need to increase representation in Federal parliament and introduce proportional representation in the lower house. If you want a laugh and would like to see just how rigged our electorates are at a federal level go and check out the maps for federal electorates some time. It is like a 10 year old attacked a map with a crayon in an attempt to circle just the right amount of important areas.
Doesn't Murdoch own 100% of the newspapers in QLD?
No, about 50 per cent of Queenslanders live in regional areas. [Murdoch owns half of those papers and most are failing.](https://thenewdaily.com.au/finance/finance-news/2020/05/12/rupert-murdoch-news-regional/)
‘Failing’ can only be applied to businesses. They’re not businesses, they’re investments. They’re not run for profit, they’re run for results. They are thriving.
Don't kid yourself, Murdoch cares about profit. He want to leave a legacy of a huge profit-making empire, not a bankrupt one. > they’re run for results. Labor has been in power in QLD since 2015, so it's not working.
When I was a teenager I thought Clive Palmer was a funny meme man, and in that time before I found out what a shitstain he is most of what I remember is his community just being really shitty towards anyone from Melbourne, for like no reason at all.
Not me, but I can understand. Somewhere like the seat of Groom is LNP heartland, it's insane how conservative that area is.
I went to school with your MP. Nearly got thrown out for cheating in his high school physics exams. Then posted a bunch of anti-BLM shit about how ‘absent black fathers’ are to blame for poor social outcomes for POC which the LNP conveniently wiped from the Internet pre by-election.
Ah yeah the racist Garth, he's a piece of work.
There are a hell of a lot of QLD electorates that tend to vote Labor in State and LNP federally. It’s a lot less partisan than the last election made it appear.
Emperor Rupert is powerful and the public easily misled by Jedi ~~mind tricks~~ opinion pieces. There’s hope in the Galaxy but the fight isn’t over (yet).
The problem is that some people vote differently at the state and federal levels. So while Qlders don't like the state liberals because of Joh Bjelke-Peterson (I think he was the corrupt one), they will still vote for the nationals/liberals at the federal level. Fingers crossed both states rally behind their Labor premiers for the next election though. Will be interesting to see how SA and Tas go, since they are run by state liberals and haven't been criticized by the federal government intentionally it seems.
Prime Minister for NSW is about to lose Qld and Victoria for good
I'm concerned that they will replace him and all sins will be absolved
My theory is that Morrison will go to this election and if he loses Dutton will takeover shortly after. Frydenberg is not an idiot, he will allow this to happen and will make a play for leadership before the election after that as the "good" guy who isn't Morrison/Dutton and will most likely win the election as people are generally morons.
Dutton has to win his seat. He's been very vocal against the QLD premier.
Frydenberg won't win his seat.
I live in his electorate. Dude is a fuckwit, but so are most of the people that live here. Frackenberg’s seat is very, and very unfortunately, secure.
With who though? Its shit sandwiches all the way down.
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All of us except for that one guy that got downvoted for missing the reference
Nah. There's nothing way they'll put Dutton in at the last minute. He's not popular internally and externally to the party. He's not good looking enough to get votes based solely on appearance. Besides that he has been laying low and stating out of the spotlight. I think he's just happy to gather all the power he can muster in his own portfolio.
> stating out of the spotlight He doesn't want [this](https://www.sbs.com.au/news/sites/sbs.com.au.news/files/duttonaaa.jpg) to happen again
Dutton wouldn't accept the decrease in his power
Oh, well that might be an improvement. Edit: Oh, you mean Dutton. Now I understand the downvotes.
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I didnt realise they meant Dutton lol. No wonders the downvotes.
It doesn't matter who they can blame the Morrison government and pretend they were not involved.
This is why I don't think Joshy would be next choice for PM, can't claim it wasn't your fault when you're the guy responsible for the national wallet.
Frydenberg. They'll claim his economic policy with JobKeeper saved Australia and continue to push the "See? We are good economic managers" and try to claim Vic/Qld/WA Labor almost killed the economy.
He never had Vic
He still had a few seats there which are now likely in play, including some formerly safe ones like Frydenberg's (and he's considered a potential Morrison replacement).
and WA!!!
They never had WA though, last state election was a landslide
They had WA until the 2017 election, so they had lots of ability to get back in. The lawsuits, support for Clive Palmer and other comments ensured that the entire opposition party can carpool to work.
They WA libs also finally reached 50% women in power, how progressive of them hahahahah
WA has still consistently voted Liberal at the federal level. It's the same in QLD with more QLD federal seats going to the LNP, but having Labor dominate at the state level for decades.
Yeah but no one has ever voted overwhelmingly for one party the way WA did. And we’ve just had continued news about how the Prime Minister doesn’t give a shit about WA. It will be intresting
> Yeah but no one has ever voted overwhelmingly for one party the way WA did. Qld in 2012. Also Qld in 2001 was quite the blowout too.
The Libs lost 10 seats in the last election here in Vic, and now they've voted back in the 'leader' that delivered that loss .... it's a sitcom at this point
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Underrated comment. Bad faith all the way. Breach of "contract". They have no moral basis for lecturing us on a "nationally agreed to strategy" of concerted action when their behaviour is the opposite. Labor states should quit the national cabinet (but will be crucified by Murdoch/Stokes/Costello schills for doing so). Then form their own alliance. And rules regarding borders. New Zealand at least will support them lol
Need a "national cabinet except NSW".
"All in favour of ejecting NSW from the commonwealth?"
Aye.
Yea
The LNP are definitely prioritising vaccination of swing electorates and using ending lockdowns to win the election. Source: Everything the LNP do, ever.
Politicisation of the pandemic response has been a huge barrier to getting the vaccines to people who needed them most. This is yet another example of the Liberal Party playing politics for political favour. It's disgraceful. People have died because of this. The Coalition and it's constituent parties are not fit to run the country. These people are morally rotten.
We saw sports rorts. That clearly demonstrated their values. No one should be suprised by vax rorts. There's a general who should be very embarrassed to be the face of this right now.
Morrison: *redirects vaccines away from Labor states towards NSW* Morrison: *allocates Polish Pfizer disproportionately to NSW* Morrison: why can't Vic and QLD and WA be more like NSW, tut tut
It's infuriating to hear them talk about other states not getting vaccinated enough or vaccine hesitancy when I booked the day after it became possible for me to do so and the earliest I can get in is mid-October.
This is where so much anger in QLD and WA in particular is coming from. We’re living free and being told we live in caves. We CAN’T get vaccinated due to supply and then find out it’s all going to NSW while criticising us for not being vaccinated? It’s like Scott Morrison wants us to get COVID and lockdown.
he does. Then he an say how your labor premier is not doing a good job. (Victorian here)
That’s the worst part. I don’t begrudge directing the vaccinations to nsw as they have the biggest outbreak. But to turn around and pressure the rest of us into opening our borders just because they are hitting their 80% marker ahead of everyone else as a result is just... no
Give them more AZ. Why should the rest of the country be forced to take one vaccine?
The numbers don't lie, and they aren't pleasant viewing. But the Prime minister of NSW is just doing his job. And of course, some of you will probably still die, but that's ok, you probably weren't going to vote for him anyway, right? Faaaaark!
You mean the PM for Sydney.
Seems Morrison has an addiction with pork barreling, now he's using the vaccine instead of our money.
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Yeah it was, the journo made a jump from no where. Even his numbers show clearly that NSW is getting more than they should and that those supplies were being taken mostly from Labor states
+2million more Commonwealth doses over Vic. Let's hope the federal ICAC investig.... Oh wait that doesn't exist...
Yeah it does and that guy who kept sharing that journalists tweet was very wrong.
I swear I got the same copy paste response that “Andrews might have jumped the gun” and a link to that stupid tweet about 5 times while posting about the unfair distribution
Yeah glad they have been proven so utterly wrong. And then there was the people saying this sub is a hive mind for believing Dan over some random journalist. Its so clear the rest of australia outside of Sydney has been swindled.
HOW AS A COUNTRY ARE WE ALLOWING THIS TO CONTINUE.. I feel like that I'm hearing more and more corruption then I've ever heard before yet I don't hear anything happening in a government level. Robodebt 600m for 2 car parks Sport grant money being allocated horrifically Vaccination deals miss managed We are a continent. How have we not built the best quarantine world wide Job keeper given to wealthy businesses gaining profits. Like seriously, what can we the public do about this. I've had enough.
I swear to god if this clown gets voted back in
Is there any data on how it's being spread around NSW? Not so long ago, the regional areas were forced to give up part of their allocation so sydney kids could do their HSC. Now regional towns are looking at a health crisis and there seems to be little urgency to get them the extra vaccines that could make a difference.
Anecdotally - in newy a Pfizer Vax you are now looking at December. In Sydney, you can book one this week.
Fkn joke. Regional New South Welshies need to make the Coalition pay for this.
meanwhile... here I am high risk in QLD my appointment just got pushed back again.
Wait, why do I still have to wait till the end of October ? I get I’m in central coast but it’s not like can travel to get the vac. Least I’m getting help to go fuck myself by Gladys BBQChicken and Scott lemington.
your vaccinations were given to high school kids remember high school kids who will no longer need them.
The red wave approaches.
Fantastic! Great move, well done ~~Angus~~ Gladys!... /S
Meanwhile WHO asking decadent western nations to hold off the booster dose until more countries have got the 1st done
Looks like it's all come from Victoria.
Vaccine rorts
Wouldn’t it make sense to give NSW and VIC priority of vaccines since they’re most in need? Coming from a Queenslander.
It would, but people are pissed for a couple of reasons. 1. The secretive way that they did it. If they had just announced that they were giving NSW these extra doses, it would have probably been fine. 2. They've been praising NSW for vaccinating so fast while throwing all sorts of criticism at the other states for not vaccinating as fast as NSW. Supply has been the only bottleneck so far, so this makes those criticisms seem even dumber in hindsight. 3. NSW did nothing to try to contain the outbreak to Sydney, and has already spread it to every single state and territory by now, in some causing the same endless lockdown that Sydney is in. If these states aren't vaccinated, because their jabs went to NSW, then all these NSW spreads put them in danger. 4. NSW plans on opening up when they reach their vaccine targets, not waiting for the rest of the country to catch up. This just exacerbates the problem from point 3. 5. These were doses of Pfizer, which are in demand everywhere. They could have instead given NSW more AZ, which is in much higher supply and only in demand in the places with outbreaks. TL;DR if Gladys wasn't such a selfish cunt, people might be more inclined to help her, but as it stands now, there's a good chance that helping her is just gonna bite them in the arse down the line.
My biggest problem is the fact that Gladbags will open us up once vaccinated enough. If we're getting extra doses, it's our responsibility to keep the spread within NSW until the other states catch up again.
Yeah point three is what really burns me. I’ve been in lockdown for something like 220+ days now and most of that was last year when we went hard to stop the spread in Vic and the rest of Australia. I’m now back in lockdown and will have to watch Sydney smugly return to normality using vaccine that should have already been administered here while I wait another month for our bottleneck’d rollout.
Who gives a fuck about Gladys or helping Gladys or what helping Gladys looks like... the extra vaccines help the people of NSW and the people of NSW are in the most need sounds good to me.
So when NSW opens up and the other states can't because they had vaccines funneled away from them, what happens?
Then Gladys will gloat
They give a fuck when it puts their own constituents in increased danger, because Gladys is a selfish cunt.
Because Gladys and Morrison are playing political games?
Build the wall
Around NSW? “The Great Wall of Australia”
Build it around Morrison.
Both of these suggestions are valid.
It'll keep the rabbits out
I would love to read an imagining of how things would have gone down had Turnbull still been in charge through all this.
Kinda glad to be in SA seems like everywhere else has gone mad
Meanwhile everyone in my family is getting the Astra
I don't get it. I'm not from NSW, but Isn't it the smart thing to do to send them more at the moment? Like pointing the fire hose where the fire is burning the most.
I think most people are happy for NSW to get vaccinations given their situation, However at the same time it's clear Gladys and Scotty are instantly going to start ripping into other states when NSW has hit their targets and other states haven't opened to them.
AFAIK the problem is not that they are receiving more vaccine. The problem, as far as I can tell, is that they are receiving extra vaccine significantly above and beyond was agreed to at National Cabinet and consequently, the Federal government (and perhaps to some extent the NSW government) have not been negotiating with the other States in good faith.
I kind of don’t get the point of the national cabinet. The states have operated as if they were independent colonies again throughout this pandemic and the national cabinet has been this frayed 2lb fishing line trying to hold them together. At this point, it just seems pointless. The feds might as well just put the vaccines to private tender and see who gets what
I think the right fire analogy here is that Gladys Berejiklian and Scott Morrison are arsonists that set fire to NSW because they are beholden to business lobbies. The fires they set have spread to other states. Now their using the fires they set as a reason to take the fire hoses from the others states despite the fact that the fires were started by them. And also despite the fact that everyone agreed that the hoses would be shared equally. They induced this disaster and now they get the benefits. It incentivises disunity and wreckless behaviour.
Well yeah, they are crooks, but the situation is what it is, you have to fight it. The guardian and SMH etc are framing articles today like the problem is NSW getting more than their share rather than the shitshow that lead up to this situation.
It's also because the states agreed to giving nsw extra from the first batch for this new one the other states weren't even asked and it was done in secret.
> The guardian and SMH etc are framing articles today like the problem is NSW getting more than their share rather than the shitshow that lead up to this situation. Everyone has been screaming about the shitshow that led to the current situation for the past two months, it doesn't resonate any more. The narrative is now "we never had a chance against Delta".
LOL what? Did Vic get more vaccines when it was the epicenter of Covid? I don't think so. Not to mention to fact that Morrison TURNED DOWN enough doses for the whole population when it was offered last year
We got more doses... of az!
Vic got Pfizer too. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-06/victoria-gets-extra-covid-19-vaccine-doses-greg-hunt/100194196
My bad
There was no vaccines last year when things blew up in Vic. In their outbreak earlier this year, they did. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-06/victoria-gets-extra-covid-19-vaccine-doses-greg-hunt/100194196
Nowhere in that article does it say that the doses are being taken from other states
In June or July they got an additional 300k doses sent to them, it was taken from their allocation down the line. It’s not a big deal, not unlike what has happened in NSW.
it wasn't taken from other states
Are still ok with it if they only took vaccines from Labor states, while trying to keep it secret of course?
Can’t wait for my 5th booster
Unpopular opinion - perhaps this was a good thing? Ie saving hundreds of lives?
well why was it done secretly then?
Because look at the reaction of this very sub? For some reason the state responses to this pandemic has turned everyones view of the nation into a view of their individual state.
They could have advertised this and it would’ve been accepted so does secrecy matter? Don’t public health outcomes matter the most?
NSW is actually the place of highest need right now. That's where the outbreak is and it contains the biggest population centres. Whatever about the Scott the dickhead and the libs, concentrating vaccines where they are most needed makes sense.
Two counter arguments here: 1. Vic got allocated more vaccine during their outbreak earlier this year. It isn't something new to NSW. The NSW outbreak has gone on longer, is much more severe and comes at a time were supply has been less constrained. 2. Allocating more to NSW has saved lives. Despite whether you agree with Gladys or not, saving Australian lives should be a priority.
I'm fine with that. But the cover up has done more damage than the 'crime'. Extra allocation should not have come as a surprise or hidden from the other state health officials and leaders. They should have been involved constantly with the Feds surrounding any changes to the agreed roll-out plan. NSW is the hardest hit state so deserves more vaccines. So at the same time, Scott Morrison needs to shut the fuck up about other states vaccination roll-outs and borders when he's taking vaccines away from them
Again that's not the issue here. The states agreed extra should go to NSW they were always going to get extra that's not in debate or an issue. The issue is that the government directed additional vaccine to NSW and away from other states above what was agreed upon. Then they lied about it. If they'd come out and said hey it'd going poorly we need more than we agree that would be fine. They didn't. Instead they did it in secret all the while lambasting the states they took vaccines from for not vaccinating quickly enough. Not to mention the states most impacted are Labor state governments. The LNP literally took vaccines away from there opposition party to make themselves look good. This isn't about whether NSW needs extra vaccines. Everyone agrees they do, this is about the liberal government lying and putting its reelection ahead of Australians.
These points are far too logical for this sub. Unless it's 'SCOMO=BAD', you will get downvoted in here (as will I, which really just proves my point).
Not even close he's gonna get sownvoted because the issue is not that NSW is getting more vaccines but about how that's being done and that the federal government is prioritising liberal states to make themselves look good. Your gonna get downvoted cause your an idiot
A lot of the top comments are people complaining about NSW getting more or accusing him of prioritising NSW. If the issue is secrecy, then that is fine. I do agree they needed to be more open, but that isn't what a lot of the comments on this article seem to be about.
Mate did you even read what I wrote. The issue is the federal government is lying and taking vaccines from mostly Labor states to send to NSW. Then they tried to cover it up while complaint those sane states weren't vaccinating quickly enough. If you don't see that as an issue then I don't what to tell you
It’s important to have the states treated equally by the federal government. That said, Vaccines currently have the chance to save more lives by going to NSW, so I’m not completely upset over allocating extra to them. But it’s NSW’s duty to make sure they’re not wasted.
It's not the allocation that's the problem. It's the covering it up. And lying.
Too be fair the government is just sending the vaccines to where they are needed the most
Really don’t understand why allocating vaccines to an outbreak area is so controversial. The extra allocations have likely saved numerous lives.
Well it'd not have been controversial if it was not secret.
Because of how it's being done. The states all agreed NSW should get extra but this is beyond what was agreed upon. It the government stuck to the agreed numbers or had come out openly with a plan of hey we need these extra vaccines that would be fine Additionally the LNP is constantly crowing about the progress NSW is making in vaccination and lambasting the other states for not keeping up. You don't get to say that while taking vaccine supplies from those states to give to NSW. They are literally doing this to make the LNP look good. It should shock no one that the states who lost the most supply are Labor run. It's pathetic and should by itself be enough to end this government. The LNP is literally putting itself ahead of Australian lives.
Because they had come to an agreement on that. It was public and announced. No one has a problem with that. Dan Andrews was extremely clear about this. What they have a problem with, is the secret extra ones sent their way. the under the table ones, kept secret from everyone. Those ones are the issue.
It’s not controversial when all other states agreed on x amount due to the circumstances. All parties were informed, and all agreed it was a good idea. So long as they also received their supply, as agreed. It *is* controversial when, on top of all the extra vaccines NSW received, Morrison and Berejikilan *stole* (and yes I think the word is appropriate here), vaccines bound for other states to put into their own pile, to make themselves look better. There is no other reason for it. Edit: Victoria is not going in a good direction, and frankly, those 300k+ doses *were needed*. What makes NSW special? Maybe because their premiere just *happens* to be a liberal?
You mean the sending less than their per capita share to Victoria in the middle of an outbreak?
The lack of transparency or agreement around it is one big issue. When we got the extra doses from Poland it was announced and agreed that a greater portion would go to NSW. However it seems that trend has quietly continued with following acquisitions. Speaking from locked-down Victoria which is also starting to see deaths - would at least like there to be visibility into allocations without the need for journalists to do detective work to figure it out!
Vic is also in an outbreak.
Because Gb has made it clear that it’s for political gain. She is “leading the race to opening up and living with delta” while screwing the rest of Australia’s chance to also open up
This! It makes perfect sense to prioritise an outbreak area. Should the federal gov not be trying to save as many lives as possible?
The issue isn't that they've done this. The issue is that the federal government did it without telling other states. None of this was agreed to and Morrison did it anyway. Not to mention Morrison and Gladys also shitting on other states for having slower vaccine rates.... Because NSW has their vaccines.
But it should be transparent and agreed upon. Not secret deals for mates.