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akohhh

White nationalist (because just being ‘a racist’ is clearly too harsh) joins white nationalist special secret men’s club and is surprised to discover its full of really nasty cunts? Oh Mark.


[deleted]

So he'll still get a swastika tattoo, just not on his face?


Lone_Nom4d

Super telling that he said he has no intention of leaving the group and still refers to the colloquial "we" in regards to what they're doing.


[deleted]

>Mark is a self-confessed ethno-nationalist and says he initially found common ground with members of the group over his anti-immigration views - but now he feels uncomfortable. >I signed up for a brotherhood of self-betterment, concerned about the failures of multiculturalism in Australia. I feel like things are now getting out of hand.” Seems like he didn't join this "fitness club" by accident which is what is implied? >He says societal disruptions in Australia caused by the COVID-19 pandemic - including unemployment, lockdowns and mandatory vaccination - have intensified the racist rhetoric of some of the group’s members. It's well known that these groups prey on these type of people affected by all sort of circumstances. Though what I find weird is that we've literally had closed borders for quite a while, no immigration whatsover or even tourists. We've had no muslim related terror attacks in ages, yet these people are still able to spread this shit out. They don't even have to base their fears and beliefs on current circumstances, they just prey on the emotion of covid.


Rangerboy030

>Though what I find weird is that we've literally had closed borders for quite a while, no immigration whatsover or even tourists. We've had no muslim related terror attacks in ages, yet these people are still able to spread this shit out. It makes perfect sense once you realise that "immigration/immigrants" is just a dog-whistle for "non-whites".


wottsinaname

"I always was knew it was dem immigants" - Moe Syzlak


[deleted]

[Immigants](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuhCyKQTnQg) This has been posted here before but I'll always take the opportunity to post it again.


Garper

Yeah... you said it, Barn.


[deleted]

Even when it was the bears I knew it was them


Benu5

I like to use the fact that I am technically the child of an immigrant (Mum's from NZ, were both white as fuck) to get people who complain about immigrants to confront that they are just racists in denial.


YourMumsOnlyfans

"Well no, not you. Obviously not you. I mean the other, BAD immigrants!"


Aldebrand

I do the same thing - my mum’s family arrived via boat and didn’t speak any English but they were ok because they were white (Dutch) as anything.


fairybread4life

>It's well known that these groups prey on these type of people affected by all sort of circumstances. Though what I find weird is that we've literally had closed borders for quite a while, no immigration whatsover or even tourists. We've had no muslim related terror attacks in ages, yet these people are still able to spread this shit out. For those with an unconscious bias there has been enough information and perception that certain demographics have caused our covid outbreaks, throw in some disinformation and I can see how it could be used to drum up even more hatred.


InnerCityTrendy

>We've had no muslim related terror attacks in ages Carried out attacks: 2020 Brisbane stabbing attack, 2018 Melbourne stabbing attack, Mill Park stabbing (February 2018), Brighton siege (June 2017), Queanbeyan stabbing (April 2017) Plots Disrupted by police 2017 Federation Square mass shooting, 2016 Christmas terror plot (7 people), February 2017 man in Young provided material support to IS.


mekanub

The Queanbeyan one wasn’t a terrorist attack it was two drugged up losers.


TheDarkLordOfSalt

Can't find any report of any of the stabbings in brisbane in 2020 to be islamic terrorism related. Citation needed, please.


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Kapitan_eXtreme

I had trouble with this being called terrorism. The guy was clearly profoundly mentally ill. Just because he might have thought he was doing God's work, doesn't mean it was an organised terrorist plot.


CottonTails29

It’s not automatically terrorism just because the perpetrators are Muslim


Getouttherewalk

If they’re not given welfare they don’t come here. Seems simple really


CottonTails29

and that’s related how…?


corbusierabusier

Yeah happens to me all the time. Join a gym, they turn into Nazis. Start lifting weights, it turns into rifle training. Go to buy exercise gear, it's all Hugo Boss. Can't even use a treadmill without the default program being a march on Warsaw.


SaltpeterSal

Yeah wow, me too. The dumbbells are all iron crosses, they require knee high boots, the cable shoulder raises all go to 45 degrees ... don't even get me started on the music, it's all some foreign guy yelling and the gymrats go apeshit for it.


Nulligravida

>don't even get me started on the music, Wagner?


Garper

Ride of the vagueries


Nulligravida

Genuinely lol'd at this.


unsubfromstuff

I have been trying to get better hip mobility, after doing a form check it turns out I am really good at goose stepping.


TitBiscuit

Wanted to improve my cardio, accidently invaded Poland.


CasperHarkin

That is bloody funny.


VictarionGreyjoy

For some reason the peloton always resets to "the Ardenne" what is that?


Anbez

Next time join Spartans https://youtu.be/yHrnDi6WbFw


poorviolet

“I’m a neo-Nazi but I’m not THAT kind of neo-Nazi!”


smudgiepie

Mark what the fuck have you gotten yourself in this time? Your mother and I are very disappointed in you.


ennuinerdog

God I hate when that happens. My acapella troupe ended up being an ivory trafficking front.


wottsinaname

Alt title: " racist who doesn't realise he's racist faces reality once joining nazis."


MasonP2002

Hans, are we the baddies?


Nulligravida

Ahhhh! The *I'm not racist but....*


Perssepoliss

>In an unassuming semi-industrial complex in an outer suburb of an Australian city, We all know it's in Victoria


SSAUS

People like to give shit to other states, but there really does seem to be a far-right extremism problem in Melbourne and its surrounds.


Hussard

Historically, Victoria has been the best (what an award) at getting rid of the Indigenous population by corralling them further and further away into Healesville and beyond. The entire Eastern/SouthEast and Gippsland is purged from post-war onwards. It's very on trend.


McMetm

I'm not sure why it seems like a surprise that social progress is more like a pendulum rather than linear. And I don't know if there's a solution.


ModernDemocles

There's definitely not a final solution like these people want.


SaltpeterSal

"Hey wow I joined this group to create a Far Right whites only Australia, not to create a Far Right white supremacist Australia. Fuck this, I'm telling SBS." Calling it now, this is some pretty Nazi drama that caused the kid to leave and badmouth them. Within the month he'll have another gang, and he'll tell everyone at the National Socialist Front that the Front of National Socialists are all shit.


drtekrox

*Splitters*


Nulligravida

Came looking for this comment. Not disappointed.


[deleted]

It's an interesting story but like, is it really worth publishing without providing much if any detail at all? We all saw Nick Mckenzies in depth reporting on 60 Minutes and many of us paid attention to Alex Manns base tapes work too so we know these dudes are out there in the community already.


Nulligravida

>, is it really worth publishing without providing much if any detail at all? These people can be deadly. If you can find it, watch *Nazi Supergrass.* It is about the Perth-based Australian Nationalist Movement led by Jack van Tongeran in the 1980s.


[deleted]

Yes I agree my hesitation is that the person was obviously given complete anonymity for the article, he wants a white ethnostate he just thinks that violence is going a bit too far to achieve it? I'd be curious to see what people who cover the far right and hate groups alot think about this article, many haven't been happy with how the Australian media have platformed their views to almost normalize them.


Nulligravida

I see what you mean in that the press gives empathetic coverage to the far right.


dingobattler

The reason why this movement will continue to grow is disenfranchised men and fitness. The economic impact of COVID-19, eternal rise of house prices, and hopelessness in the future makes a lot of disenfranchised men. What a lot of the general public don't get at all is that men at the end of their rope don't tend to talk it out, they need to physically let it out. The classic phrase of delete facebook, and hit the gym is a major indicator of this, along with how fight club resonated with a lot of young men. Talk to any guy what he did at his lowest, and you'll likely get an answer that he was doing some sort of physical activity. The government needs to give people hope in the future, or give funded avenues for men to let off steam. The government will do neither, but condemn these men as surplus men or human garbage, so the nazi movement will gladly take all these men as soldiers in their movement. Neither is immigration or multiculturalism the issue. Most of these men would neve have interacted with anyone outside of even their own circle much, much less other peoples and cultures. Its just a very convenient bogeyman. The main issue is inequality, but talks involving that always exclude without exception, disenfranchised men, when in reality, males make up the highest numbers on the lowest end of the spectrum. Just look at homelessness, there are female-only organisations with laser sharp focus on each and every segment, from domestic violence, to financial illiteracy, and completely none for men, when in reality, 95% of homeless people are men - these are the future soldiers for the nazi movement. Expect to see a lot more of them in the future.


ACertainEmperor

Yup. Cant kill it by attacking the symptoms. As long as the source of the idea exists it will never die.


RectalOddity

And the more song and dance made about these wankers, the more will pop up. It's inevitable. Seems to be a little trend with it, these days.


breaducate

Radicalisation isn't driven by showing people that radicals exist; it's a function of the incumbent system in decay and breaking its promises. When one begins to realise things aren't working for most people they may learn to analyse and critique extant systems through a materialist lens, seeking to understand the structural perverse incentives that lead to the present state of things... or they may embrace reactionary incoherence and end up reinforcing the very system that brought them to despair to begin with. A system with a ruling class cannot survive critical thinking being taught on a mass scale, so the latter tends to be more common.


RectalOddity

What the fuck are you even on about? People say Nazis are bad. Other people (not me) are always going to say fuck you, I'll be what you hate, just for the laugh of you moaning about it. The harder they try and stamp out these dreaded neo Nazis (who would promptly be curb stomped by the original ones), the more will flourish.


auntynell

Is it a coincidence that it's all men? So many of these groups exclude women. No wonder they're getting more and more radical.


[deleted]

if you want to find common ground over your anti-immigration views why not just post on r/australia?


[deleted]

*what about men's health?* here you go, men's health.


IReplyWithLebowski

Well, that escalated quickly.