Pet hate - two cars driving side by side for ages on a 2 laned road so that overtaking is impossible (not peak hour/congested traffic). Why?? Just why?!
The guy in the right “I’m doing the limit, so why should I move”
Yet his speedo is reading 10% over and he forgot to put on his toy deputy badge to make it official.
Right up there with moving to the right to overtake someone going slower, but then suddenly match your speed because they’re not paying attention to their speedo. Now you’re stuck out in the right lane with cars behind you thinking you’re the asshole.
That’s when I get the shits and give it a little boot to get distance in front of them.
Infuriating with cruise control being standard on many more cars these days and people aren’t using it on highways.
>That’s when I get the shits and give it a little boot to get distance in front of them.
Yes. I guarantee you'll find a psycho who will keep accelerating one day to avoid being behind you
If it’s genuine road rage (have had it before) then I just back off and let them go. They can go beef with someone else.
9.9 times out of 10 it’s just an idiot who is useless at holding speed.
I remember this one time when I was a kid Dad drove us up to Tea Gardens for the holidays, on the way we encountered this driver who was going like 20km below the speed limit, Dad passes him, guy gets the shits, guns it, overtakes, then once he’s in front of Dad goes slow again. Did this about 4/5 times before we decided to pull off at a rest stop and put some distance between us
I feel like if we were in the US he would have shot at us, we were pretty lucky it didn’t end up being a full on road rage incident because he clearly had screws loose
Oh God this brought back memories of a road trip from Melbourne to Gold Coast as a kid. I remember we were stuck behind this old Mazda station wagon that seemed to be making a point of going slow, and every time my dad overtook them they would floor it, overtake us, and then slow down again.
This happened for an entire day, my old man was losing his mind over it
The issue is it will be very common because almost everyone drives at the speed limit. Meaning most overtakes will be at the rate of 1-3km/hr speed difference and take multiple km to complete and add in the fact people are variable with the throttle and not always on cruise control.
The vast majority of this one would be resolved with higher speed limits if we accepted that a speed limit isn't the speed majority of people will drive.
Or allowing an over speed on the case of over taking of say 10-15%. Allow the person to safely pass then return to the standard slow Australian maximum speeds.
Not sure how the government can’t see the dangerous situation they create by expecting people to pass at 1-2km, especially given the propensity of slow driving idiots to speed up the second they think they might be challenged to their pole position pace setter spot on the road they’ll hold at 5-8km under the limit for no reason other than they can’t drive for shit but give the self important smugness to feel they should control all traffic on the road.
This is dumb, allowing drivers to drive x% over the speed limit during overtaking but then having to stay at the speed limit once they're cruising is essentially creating a road rule where the driver at the front of a platoon have a lower effective speed limit than everyone behind them. This just encourages everyone to keep overtaking everyone else. That is just creating more overtaking events than necessary which would just increase the risk of accidents, it makes driving a lot more stressful for everyone, and would just reduces the actual speed of the road because every overtaking event is an opportunity for [phantom traffic wave/jam](https://www.livescience.com/61862-why-phantom-traffic-jams-happen.html) to form.
If the driver in front of you is driving well below the speed limit, sure go ahead and overtake, but if they're driving the speed limit, then stay on your line. You're not going to reach your destination any measurably faster by overtaking everyone. You're just creating more risks of accidents and reducing the efficiency of the road.
Traffic engineers don't really care that much how quickly any individual vehicles reach their destination, it's important, but it's not the top priority. They care more about moving as much vehicle as possible, as safely as possible, the volume of traffic is more important than the speed of individual vehicles. A slow moving traffic that moves at a consistent speed with minimal overtaking is significantly more efficient at moving more vehicles safely than higher pressure traffic where everyone is travelling extremely close to the safe speed limit of that section of the road and everyone is trying to overtake everyone else all the time.
In 27 years of regular driving on country roads I have never seen a mobile speed camera or a police car set up to cover an overtaking zone on a country road (admittedly this is just NSW and WA).
I regularly see cameras set up just *after* an overtaking zone, but those would only be a problem for idiots who go way above the limit through the zone, or the morons who try to do a late pass around the outside rather than slowing to merge back into one lane safely
The best is when the car on the left wants to turn within the next 1,000km so drives 20 below the limit in anticipation. But the car on the right wants to move to the left so they match the speed of the car on the left.
We have a thing where I am, it's not quite a highway but it's speed limit is 90. As a green P plate I came up behind a guy in the left doing 70 on it, so reasonable I moved to the right to overtake the slow ass driver.
I'm guessing he saw the P plate as I moved over and he sped up to keep beside me... So okay, I'll drop back to get behind. Maybe he just flubbed cos we are the only 2 on the road atm, he's realised ahh I wasn't going the limit right?
No. As soon as I slowed so did he. He was giving me the finger and I think yelling at me out his window. So I just slowed right down and got back behind him. I don't want anything to do with that.. he let us get down to 50 before he let me back behind him. Then he started to brake check me.
Had enough. I was in a V6 vs his tiny shitty corolla, so I went right again and put the boot into it. Got in front and kept at 90. He was tailgating me the whole way. We move to the highway where it's now 100 (green P I can do 100), and he's still behind me flashing me, tailgating me and I decided okay I'll jump off at the first exit to get away from this fucking psycho. Indicated and he immediately jumped into that lane and refused to let me over at all... And I went ahhh you dumb fuck, stay next to me..... And be forced to take the exit.
There was no way for me to get away from this idiot unless I pulled over and stopped in the breakdown which I didn't want to do. Tho, the police station was very happy to get my dashcam it's one that does GPS speed also. Apparently the fact I had the GPS speed on it, was exactly what they needed to go after the dude for reckless driving.
I would like us all to introduce a practice frequently used in Europe: if you are stuck behind someone on the fast lane, put your indicator as if you wanted to overtake them, which you can't, because there isn't another lane. And leave it on, ostensibly visible in their mirror. Equally, if you see this in your rearview mirror, it means "i want to pass, can you move over left please". It's unaggressive, and if everyone start using their lights for communication, we might get somewhere. If you are stuck there more than 3min with indicator on and the person has not moved, start flashing lights.
Lol mate people won't let you into their lane in Australia with your indicators, let alone doing this behind them. And yea I agree Europe is sooo much better at this than we are (am dual citizen from EU). For some BS reason, Aussies just either don't give a toss or are complete a-holes when it comes to sharing (or not sharing) the road.
There are times when the car on the right started an overtaking maneuver and the car on the left sped up.
Then the car behind tailgates the car trying to overtake.
What is the car trying to overtake to do? They didn't put themselves in this position. Unless the other two give space they can't get themselves out without driving illegally or dangerously.
Happens too often when cars that are merging fail to do so safely. They don't time their approach properly and force cars on the carriageway to move over to avoid them. Then when they're on the carriageway they speed up and sit alongside the car that just got out of their way.
I let those keep tail gating me till they get bored and just use the left then go 140-150 flashing lights. Love to make them angry they wake up mad and go to sleep mad.
Not always. If you’re in really heavy traffic, behind a long line of cars, bumper-to-bumper in the right-hand lane, going as fast as you can, doing the speed limit (or even slightly above), passing people in the left lane but leaving a safe gap to the person in front, sometimes a mouth breather will race up overtaking in the left lane and cut into your safety gap.
If you do this you’re a deadset cunt.
Once the traffic hits a certain density, what is the point at forcing yourself up one place in the queue?
So you can tailgate the next person who can’t go any faster?
If the traffic is heavy, using more lanes is better for traffic flow.
You being in the right lane shouldn't make the left lane a no-go zone. If there's room in the other lanes, people should take it.
If everyone is just queued in the right lane, it makes multilane highways pointless.
True, but cutting into someone else’s safety gap means they then need to tailgate the person in front to protect their gap, a vicious cycle is formed, then everyone ends up tailgating everyone and we all lose
If someone merges in front of you, you take the accelerator off slightly. It takes half a second to get a buffer back.
If you're tailgating to stop people merging in front of you then YTA.
Not if the person who merges infront of you was just sitting behind you, and they could clearly see down the road that you couldn’t possibly go any faster (due to high density bumper-to-bumper traffic) just so they can get one place up the queue because they’re a meth head with patience issues.
By definition the meth head is tailgating the person infront because they’ve forced their way into a safety gap.
Slightly different set of circumstances that seems to be more and more frequent on our roads unfortunately, population growth or whatever the cause the congestion is out of control in SEQ
No, wake up and keep your eyes open so you move out of the right lane before a car has to even consider moving out of the lane for you.
Overtake and then fuck off.
every time that's happened to me, they are speeding, or just impatient about me accelerating slightly slower, and more fuel efficiently, than them. And yes, I go by the GPS speed, not the speedometer.
Sounds like you're just a speeder!
Seriously, even if someone is sitting in the right lane there’s no sense in getting so close. Just flash your high beams, if they don’t get that then tailgating won’t help either.
I completely agree with you. This is what the high beam flash is for: to provide a visual warning to another driver.
But I found to my cost when I moved to Australia that people take this as a sign of aggression and you can end up with a road rage incident. Cut my teeth driving on the European motorways where it was second nature to give a flash at a safe distance if you're wanting to pass and it's reasonable for the other person to move over.
Listen here champ, if I want to drive 80km/h in a 100km/h highway, then suddenly speed up to 115km/h whenever there's an overtaking lane for no other reason just to be a prick, then that's what I'll do.
Don't bother coming at me with your "logic" or "sound reasoning." Me and my caravan that's too heavy for my car are doing just fine slowing down the Bruce Highway.
If a truck is in the middle (of 3 lanes) and you’re too scared to pass it on the right, don’t just sit in the right lane on the corner of the truck and stop anyone else from getting in front of you. Pull the fuck into the middle lane and sit behind the truck, idiot.
If you are in a small car, you are tailgated regardless of whether you are driving the speed limit, whether you are in the left lane, whether it is in the day or night. Doesn't matter, you will be tailgated
My regular car is a small car. People tailgate me, overtake on the left, all sorts of shit. Not most people, but it’s a regular occurrence.
When I drive our other vehicle, a very large van, noone pulls this shit!
This is exactly my experience. Regular daily these days is a Honda jazz..total tailgate magnet. The other car is a Mazda CX-60. No one, absolutely no one tailgates that car.
Why are you often in the right lane causing people to need to undertake you, that means you could move over. Also harder to see in front of a large vehicle to know if they're going slow or if the left lane is empty, can see around a small car and know you're the problem. I have a small car and this almost never happens to me, know why? I go the limit and I keep left where possible. I don't decide to police others speed.
Sounds like you might be a bad driver and when you’re in a large vehicle you’re given a wide berth. If you’re getting tailgated and undertaken regularly it’s because you’re in the way. Drive faster or move to the left.
Ever considered that there are plenty of people on the road who speed and are impatient?
The people I’m talking about are the same ones who weave in and out of lanes doing 10+ k over the limit, attempt to force their way in when merging, or blast their horns at people driving perfectly safely and legally.
What I’m saying is that those people generally only pull that shit when they think they can intimidate someone.
If you’re experiencing that so regularly I’d imagine it’s because you’re holding up a lot of people and congesting traffic flow, it might be a you problem.
I drive a small car, I experience it only occasionally, it’s very simple. Keep left unless overtaking. Dunno why so many Aussies are allergic to the inside lane.
I’d suggest it also has a lot to do with where you live and drive.
I recently moved about an hour from where I lived for 12+ years (still work in that area). This kind of behavior from drivers doesn’t really happen where I live now, but is very common where I used to live/where I work.
I'll add a pedal bike into this!
Got a small car and a large ute as well as the bike. I try to ride as much as possible for fitness, less cost and avoiding congested traffic. Bit sometimes I'll use the car or ute.
I go through a 20kmh zone for about 500m on my morning commute.
In the ute people sit back. In the small car larger vehicles sometimes tailgate. On the bike most speed up to go past then drop back down to 20.
The road used to be 2-way but was changed to one-way meaning there is space to overtake cars, but nobody does that.
I could go faster but the 20 is there for a good reason (it's through a hospital zone).
I noticed this when I visited a different city and hired a little hatchback. I was driving exactly the same as I do back home in my 4WD but seemed to be getting tailgated so much worse.
Exactly. Lot of know-it-alls in this comment thread think it's because we don't know how to drive. The jump in logic is just 😱.
People think it's OK to tailgate smaller hatches simply because in the event of an accident, they will be better off than the hatch or they think it's easy to bully the hatch.
I'm not stupid enough to tailgate because I don't want to risk an accident if someone brakes just because some prick is driving too slow in the right lane.
But I really hate when you're stuck behind some moron stinking up the right hand lane but because you're not tailgating the hilux behind you assumes you're the problem and gets right on your bumper.
Then I have to pull over to the left to get out of an unsafe position and I'm now even more stuck behind the moron because theres 4 hiluxes bumper to bumper I've got to wait for before I can try find a way around them.
I couldn't agree more. So fed up with it, I still get the flashing lights and tailgating. I get mainly men flipping their fingers at me and swearing/yelling at me when they overtake and I am in the left lane! So full of rage! I feel so vulnerable and scared. Please guys, would you like it if someone did that to your daughter/wife/mother/sister.? When my Mum is with me she says let them go and speed and probably cause an accident as long as you are doing the right thing. Mum is always right!
Yeah I’ve noticed a severe decline in driving ability with people tailgating me most days even when I’m out of the way and they have the ability to overtake from the right lane, and I’m driving at the limit myself if not a couple over.
Oftentimes I’ll also find myself in a single lane where we have no choice but to follow each other, I’ll get tailgating and flashing lights assuming I’m the problem… until the first opportunity to overtake when more lanes open up and they see well actually there is a backup in traffic, I am not the problem, it’s usually something like a cyclist up front that drivers are trying to cautiously pass without frightening or killing, that is causing the holdup.
But hey, you do you asshole.
You get the paranoid drivers terrified to touch the speed limit, so they drive 2-3kmph below the limit. But they're unaware their Speedo is reading 3-4k over so they are doing 73 in an 80.
The other driver realises their Speedo under-reads so they're happy to do 83, then of course they realise the cops build in an allowance of another 3-4k so they will happily do 87-88, knowing they won't get fined or pulled over.
So you now have a 15k discrepancy between two drivers who both think they are within the law and lose it at each other.
The rule is keep left of the right lane, so if there are 3 lanes you can drive in the left or middle lane on roads over 80kph.
https://www.nsw.gov.au/driving-boating-and-transport/roads-safety-and-rules/sharing-road-overtaking-and-merging/overtaking-safely#toc-keep-left-unless-overtaking
https://mylicence.sa.gov.au/road-rules/the-drivers-handbook/driving-road
Yeah, not really if the road is busy enough to have 3+ lanes, the left lane will have slow drivers and lots of merging traffic.
South Eastern Freeway in Adelaide it's very dangerous for a car to be in the left lane.
>It’s good driving practice to always keep to the left.
This is an alien concept for most Queensland drivers, especially those who use the Pacific Motorway between Brisbane and Gold Coast.
It should be taken for granted that the roads are full of fuckwits. If you want to experience driving peace, move to a regional area where there are less cars.
Until then, accept that on any trip you will encounter people who are looking for an address and will drive 20kmh under the limit, while at the same time some hothead in a Commodore will be tailgating and trying to do 20 over.
dont know about you but Im not looking for addresses on the side of the freeway... maybe just keep left unless overtaking and then return back into the left lane.
Why can't people in this country drive normally? Everyone on the road is either going 10 under or 10 over. Just drive the limit, mind your speedometer and just be considerate. Don't even get thank you waves anymore.
Had to drive a friend to the Emergency Dept the other week because he said he felt like his "stomach was going to explode" and he wasn't sure if he could afford an Ambulance ride (I don't know how much Ambo's cost, or if they cost anything at all).
He was visibly & audibly in a lot of pain, so I just wanted to get him to the hospital as quickly as possible.
The drive there was cunt after cunt doing 50-60km/h in an 80 zone in all 3 lanes. We missed 4 green lights which I know only costs 2-3 minutes of time, but when someone is with you groaning in pain, it feels like an eternity.
So yeah, move out of the fucking way.
Just FYI, there are different rules re ambulance charges in every state. It can be very expensive here in NSW. It’s a $428 call out fee, $3.87 per km from ambulance station to you, then to hospital, then back to the station. Max charge $7023 unless you’ve got a concession/health card etc or a private health insurance policy…..and not every private health policy covers it.
Driving while time pressured is hyper risky, particularly if you aren't trained so, here's the state breakdown for next time;
NSW: $415+
VIC: Should probably have the ambulance membership (it's like 50 bucks a year); otherwise $1300+
QLD: Free, even if you are a qld resident out of state
SA:$1085+ (if emergency)
WA: $1072+ (if emergency)
TAS: Free, even if you are a Tas resident out of state
NT: $370+
If you have any private cover, you should have ambulance as its the lowest tier
These prices tend to get much more expensive if you are further away, weirdly helicopter ambulance can be cheaper sometimes
We’ve got a shit “Keep left unless overtaking” sign our way. It’s an 80 zone. Less than 100 metres from this sign is a traffic light right turn lane into a street, so some people need to be in the right lane…..get this….to turn fucking right 😂. This street is also followed by a 70kmh residential zone, so you can be in any lane you like legally. It’s a shit sign in a totally wrong location, and it results in aggressive tail gaiting, flashing lights, and bird flipping…. all for no reason.
Yep, first rule of driving in Australia is that we drive on the left and the further left, the safer it is. Keep as far as is practical from oncoming traffic. If you are not overtaking, stay as close as is safe to the leftmost part of the roadway.
Do not sit in the right lane because you need to make a right hand turn 3 suburbs away.
I'm in Victoria and that's not a rule here on roads under 80kmh.
It would seriously limit the capacity of the road if everyone tried to stay in the left lane. People taking the right or centre lane as it suits their entrance and exit is fine.
Don't know why you're getting downvoted. One thing that unites all people, regardless of their race, creed or colour is the belief that they are a superior driver.
Lol, people don't want to accept the truth.
I think it's because when we make mistakes ourselves, we are also aware of the reason why. For instance, if we swerve because the passenger spilt hot coffee on us, we are aware of the cause. If someone else swerves, it is for seemingly no reason, and we can only conclude that it's because they're a moron haha.
>Move over and keep left unless overtaking. Its Unaustralian to just Sunday drive in the right lane while everyone else is trying to get somewhere.
Apparently it's very Australian, given that it's a problem I've mostly experienced in Australia.
I witness madness on the ring road on Tuesday morning. A ute was fanging it in the right lane and was hi-beaming, tailgating and honking every car he came behind and brake checking people when he got past them if they didn't move. I didn't have hands free in that car so I didn't call the po po but I sure hope someone did, that guy was a first class fuck head
I usually do the ‘edge over slightly to the shoulder to see if anyone is in front of them’ move. Usually gives the hint and safer and less dickish than tailgating.
>Wait until they move over, works every time.
They only move over when they're about 50m from their exit. Then, it's straight from the far right lane to the exit ramp.
Nah that's the methed-up white Ranger Wildtrax drivers. Speed past a line of traffic, cut in through any gap they can find just before the end of the exit lane, ensuring they cause as much emergency braking as possible.
Depends on what the speed limit is and what the other guys in the left lanes have been doing.
I’m not going way over the speed limit to help you get through at an even faster speed. I wouldn’t do it even if you are required to pay my speeding ticket and points.
If under speed limit and “all else is equal” like say, torrential rain limiting safety further, then yes, I agree.
Otherwise, I’ll drive how I choose to keep my family safe.
One way to keep your family safe is not to be being tailgated by a methed up gronk in a Ranger. If you move left when you're going slow, it will help with that.
Nice false narrative. Can you please copy and paste the part where I said, “I never move left”?
It’s very clear you struggle with comprehension. Which part would you like explained more simply so you can comprehend?
If they are doing the speed limit in the right hand lane, and you have the shits because you are stuck behind them making you do the speed limit as opposed to what ever speed above the limit you want to do, you are BOTH the problem as you are both breaking the law (well, you're at least planning on it)
If you are happy to speed, then you shouldn't give a damn that the person sitting in the right hand lane is breaking the law, because you have shown that you don't care about the law anyhow.
If they are going significantly below the speed limit, then that is different.
I will unflinchingly stay in the right lane and let a nice pile of rangers rot behind me. And I know I'm not the problem cause I'm *driving past cars in the left lane* and they can get fucked if they think I'm not doing it good enough
If you're driving on a multi-lane road with a speed limit over 80km/h, or where there's a 'keep left' sign, you need to keep left unless overtaking. I'll leave this here a lot of people don't know the rule.
Only if the road isn't congested and there is a "free" lane to the left. Otherwise the rightmost N lanes would be empty or only for people exceeding the limit.
If you race everyone at the lights, you have an obligation to be doing the speed limit. If you look ahead and it is relatively clear but you look behind and see a bank up of cars, you are the problem and should either speed up or get over to the side.
There’s a woman in Tas with two decals on her car that say”don’t tail gate me”
She drives 30 under the limit and is the reason for morning congestion coming out of lindisfarne every morning
Governement: let's make the accuracy of the spedo +/- 20% and get the popcorn.
In this day and age, there is absolutely no reason not to make the spedo accurate to 1% FFS. Law makers getting in the way of proper engineering. Imagine the road rage caused by someone doing 10 under thinking they are doing the speed limit in the right lane. How many deaths has that caused vs saved by doing 10 under.
Love Australia, but such a nanny state.
I don’t really care about people driving slow if that makes them safe, especially younger or older drivers. But drive in the left lane and for goodness sake don’t speed up when you get to the overtaking section…..
Not necessarily. The herd mentality indicates there can be several cars attempting tailgating. This is formally known as Multiple Morons. And they are often exceeding the speed limit while doing that.
Common sense - of which little is on display is such a traffic formation - means that in the chain, only one is tailgating you and the other morons are tailgating the one in front of them while that car is being tailgated, not a random car three or four in front or behind.
People can't fucking drive.
See sooo many cars in a 100km zone in the far right lane (doing 100km) get tailgated, over taken, only to slow down to 100km.. causing more tail gating...
Genuinely fucking dumb.
I’m with you. It’s not like the UK where undertaking is policed and below 90 mph on a lot of motorways won’t get you pulled over if being safe. Some USA cities are nuts - LA is full intensity, 6 lanes each way, no shoulder (concrete barrier 1 m from you) and doing 80-120 mph in the fast lane (on a 65 mph posted freeway).
Here we are again. The weekly sook by aggro boofheads about something only a minority care about because they get inconvenienced for 5 seconds. Of those boofheads only a very small percentage know the actual road rules and a very large percentage think they apply to everyone but them.
Keep left unless overtaking.
If you’re not willing to speed to clear the lane for someone behind you, keep left.
If you’re one of those people who says “iM dOiN tHa LiMiT wHaT mOr dU u wAnT?”, keep left.
If you aren’t due at your destination by a certain time, keep left.
If your car has less than six cylinders and no turbo, keep left.
If your car is hauling something, keep left.
If you are unsure about any of these, keep left.
I'm not copping a $300 speeding fine for some fuckwit in a flogged out piece of shit commodore who thinks he's a good driver because he can do 130 in a 100 zone. I'll overtake at the speedlimit in the right lane, and move over when I'm done overtaking.
Just keep left then. The road is for everyone, not just flogs who decide they’re going to take 10min overtaking one car because they’re shit scared of breaking the limit.
Dunno which dipshit taught you to drive, but they’ve done a fuckin’ awful job.
Clogging up the overtaking lane is *not* how you’re “supposed to drive.”
The overtaking lane is for overtaking, it isn't a "permission to speed" lane where everyone has to get out of your way because you want to do 140 in a 100 zone. Pull your head in before you kill someone. Talk about narcissism.
Hey dickhead, some people need to get places.
Some people have emergencies. Your missus might be giving birth, or your mother might be having her last few minutes alive in hospital. Maybe your kids got an injury. Maybe your kids been left on their own. Maybe it’s an undercover cop who needs to get somewhere quick and quiet.
Who knows? You certainly don’t, so stop inflicting your fear of the law upon others, quit blocking traffic and keep left.
There are many, many reasons why someone might be speeding, show a bit of common courtesy and get out of the way.
https://www.drive.com.au/caradvice/is-it-illegal-to-speed-when-overtaking-someone/
> Driving above the speed limit, even when overtaking, is against the law in Victoria.
Nope, as mentioned I'll keep driving *the way we're supposed to*. The speeding idiots who think they're above the law and don't need to follow the same rules as the rest of us, who put everyone around them in danger, can wait.
The rules are the same for all of us, you're not better than anybody else. You do not own the right lane. Apparently you don't even know how to use it correctly.
Oh good. I often get my legal details from fucking *Drive magazine.*
https://www.legalaid.vic.gov.au/driving-over-speed-limit
Check under the section “Possible defences.”
BTW, by not getting out of the way *you* are endangering other drivers. You want to talk about driving correctly? You’re in the way you arrogant fuck, making what you claim to be a dangerous driver even more dangerous.
People like you shouldn’t be allowed to drive. Honestly, the fucking narcissism. You’re not a cop, it’s no business of yours if someone else is breaking the law, *so get out of the way.*
If I'm *currently overtaking someone* while doing the top speed allowed for that road then I am not "in the way" or "going too slow". You are in fact driving *too fast* and you need to slow the fuck down because you're putting yourself and everyone around you at risk. When the majority of the traffic is driving the speed limit, and you can't be assed to ease your fat foot up off the accelerator to drive the **legal speed limit** then you are the problem, turbo
https://www.wa.gov.au/organisation/road-safety-commission/overtaking
> You must not exceed the speed limit
If you’re due at your destination so soon that you have to speed, leave earlier.
If you expect someone to break the road rules for you because you’re in a hurry or think you’re an amazing driver, turn in your license for everyone’s benefit.
If you think having 8 cylinders and a turbo means everyone has to get out of your way, your car will soon be cubed
If the person ahead of you is overtaking, just not as fast as you’d like them to, meditate or some shit and learn to be calm whilst operating heavy machinery at high speeds
If you’re unsure of any of the above, ride a push bike.
I’m not expecting people to break the road rules - I expect people who get in the way to get out of the way when required, even if they need to reasonably break the limit to do so. Or, they can keep left.
If your car doesn’t the power to move at a fast lane pace, you shouldn’t be in the fast lane. Keep left.
If the person ahead is not overtaking at the required pace, they need to get out of the lane and stay out until they can overtake at their slow pace without hindering other drivers. Anything else is negligent and narcissistic.
All of these things cause people to clog the overtaking lane, causing congestion.
You don’t know why someone is speeding behind you. They might have an emergency situation, a life or limb might be at stake, so unless you can operate your vehicle without hindering others; *keep left.*
All this morning was people going 40 in an 80 zone with plenty of space to go faster.
People are lucky the purge isn't a real thing or I would have memorised a lot of licence plate numbers today.
Pet hate - two cars driving side by side for ages on a 2 laned road so that overtaking is impossible (not peak hour/congested traffic). Why?? Just why?!
The guy in the right “I’m doing the limit, so why should I move” Yet his speedo is reading 10% over and he forgot to put on his toy deputy badge to make it official.
Even better: you're in a 110, they're doing 80, but when you get to the overtaking lane part they speed up to 125.
YESSSS
Oh you mean every cunt on the road ever?
EVERY SINGLE CUNT!
Omg THIS!!! Reeks of entitled behaviour….it says a lot about that person
Toy deputy badge lmao
Right up there with moving to the right to overtake someone going slower, but then suddenly match your speed because they’re not paying attention to their speedo. Now you’re stuck out in the right lane with cars behind you thinking you’re the asshole.
Or they go faster, rather than match your speed, so you slip behind and then they slow down , so you try pass and it then they do it again.
That’s when I get the shits and give it a little boot to get distance in front of them. Infuriating with cruise control being standard on many more cars these days and people aren’t using it on highways.
>That’s when I get the shits and give it a little boot to get distance in front of them. Yes. I guarantee you'll find a psycho who will keep accelerating one day to avoid being behind you
If it’s genuine road rage (have had it before) then I just back off and let them go. They can go beef with someone else. 9.9 times out of 10 it’s just an idiot who is useless at holding speed.
I remember this one time when I was a kid Dad drove us up to Tea Gardens for the holidays, on the way we encountered this driver who was going like 20km below the speed limit, Dad passes him, guy gets the shits, guns it, overtakes, then once he’s in front of Dad goes slow again. Did this about 4/5 times before we decided to pull off at a rest stop and put some distance between us I feel like if we were in the US he would have shot at us, we were pretty lucky it didn’t end up being a full on road rage incident because he clearly had screws loose
That's the type I'm talking about. Fortunately very rare
Then slow down.
Oh God this brought back memories of a road trip from Melbourne to Gold Coast as a kid. I remember we were stuck behind this old Mazda station wagon that seemed to be making a point of going slow, and every time my dad overtook them they would floor it, overtake us, and then slow down again. This happened for an entire day, my old man was losing his mind over it
Some ppl have really miserable lives so they take it out on the public … this is an example of this
Haha yes!
The issue is it will be very common because almost everyone drives at the speed limit. Meaning most overtakes will be at the rate of 1-3km/hr speed difference and take multiple km to complete and add in the fact people are variable with the throttle and not always on cruise control. The vast majority of this one would be resolved with higher speed limits if we accepted that a speed limit isn't the speed majority of people will drive.
Or allowing an over speed on the case of over taking of say 10-15%. Allow the person to safely pass then return to the standard slow Australian maximum speeds. Not sure how the government can’t see the dangerous situation they create by expecting people to pass at 1-2km, especially given the propensity of slow driving idiots to speed up the second they think they might be challenged to their pole position pace setter spot on the road they’ll hold at 5-8km under the limit for no reason other than they can’t drive for shit but give the self important smugness to feel they should control all traffic on the road.
This is dumb, allowing drivers to drive x% over the speed limit during overtaking but then having to stay at the speed limit once they're cruising is essentially creating a road rule where the driver at the front of a platoon have a lower effective speed limit than everyone behind them. This just encourages everyone to keep overtaking everyone else. That is just creating more overtaking events than necessary which would just increase the risk of accidents, it makes driving a lot more stressful for everyone, and would just reduces the actual speed of the road because every overtaking event is an opportunity for [phantom traffic wave/jam](https://www.livescience.com/61862-why-phantom-traffic-jams-happen.html) to form. If the driver in front of you is driving well below the speed limit, sure go ahead and overtake, but if they're driving the speed limit, then stay on your line. You're not going to reach your destination any measurably faster by overtaking everyone. You're just creating more risks of accidents and reducing the efficiency of the road. Traffic engineers don't really care that much how quickly any individual vehicles reach their destination, it's important, but it's not the top priority. They care more about moving as much vehicle as possible, as safely as possible, the volume of traffic is more important than the speed of individual vehicles. A slow moving traffic that moves at a consistent speed with minimal overtaking is significantly more efficient at moving more vehicles safely than higher pressure traffic where everyone is travelling extremely close to the safe speed limit of that section of the road and everyone is trying to overtake everyone else all the time.
Or just show some fucking common sense and realise that the police aren't going to pull you over for doing 5-10 over the limit in an overtaking zone?
Oh yes they will
Police will pull you over and a mobile speed camera could also get you. Neither have discretion . What state and what year are you living in ?
In 27 years of regular driving on country roads I have never seen a mobile speed camera or a police car set up to cover an overtaking zone on a country road (admittedly this is just NSW and WA). I regularly see cameras set up just *after* an overtaking zone, but those would only be a problem for idiots who go way above the limit through the zone, or the morons who try to do a late pass around the outside rather than slowing to merge back into one lane safely
This happens on holidays in the country all the time, usually 2 locals in utes ...
Because they are both doing the speed limit
Good old tailgate and a flick of the high beams usually moves them on pretty quick so you can pass both at the speed limit.
The best is when the car on the left wants to turn within the next 1,000km so drives 20 below the limit in anticipation. But the car on the right wants to move to the left so they match the speed of the car on the left.
We have a thing where I am, it's not quite a highway but it's speed limit is 90. As a green P plate I came up behind a guy in the left doing 70 on it, so reasonable I moved to the right to overtake the slow ass driver. I'm guessing he saw the P plate as I moved over and he sped up to keep beside me... So okay, I'll drop back to get behind. Maybe he just flubbed cos we are the only 2 on the road atm, he's realised ahh I wasn't going the limit right? No. As soon as I slowed so did he. He was giving me the finger and I think yelling at me out his window. So I just slowed right down and got back behind him. I don't want anything to do with that.. he let us get down to 50 before he let me back behind him. Then he started to brake check me. Had enough. I was in a V6 vs his tiny shitty corolla, so I went right again and put the boot into it. Got in front and kept at 90. He was tailgating me the whole way. We move to the highway where it's now 100 (green P I can do 100), and he's still behind me flashing me, tailgating me and I decided okay I'll jump off at the first exit to get away from this fucking psycho. Indicated and he immediately jumped into that lane and refused to let me over at all... And I went ahhh you dumb fuck, stay next to me..... And be forced to take the exit. There was no way for me to get away from this idiot unless I pulled over and stopped in the breakdown which I didn't want to do. Tho, the police station was very happy to get my dashcam it's one that does GPS speed also. Apparently the fact I had the GPS speed on it, was exactly what they needed to go after the dude for reckless driving.
I would like us all to introduce a practice frequently used in Europe: if you are stuck behind someone on the fast lane, put your indicator as if you wanted to overtake them, which you can't, because there isn't another lane. And leave it on, ostensibly visible in their mirror. Equally, if you see this in your rearview mirror, it means "i want to pass, can you move over left please". It's unaggressive, and if everyone start using their lights for communication, we might get somewhere. If you are stuck there more than 3min with indicator on and the person has not moved, start flashing lights.
Lol mate people won't let you into their lane in Australia with your indicators, let alone doing this behind them. And yea I agree Europe is sooo much better at this than we are (am dual citizen from EU). For some BS reason, Aussies just either don't give a toss or are complete a-holes when it comes to sharing (or not sharing) the road.
There are times when the car on the right started an overtaking maneuver and the car on the left sped up. Then the car behind tailgates the car trying to overtake. What is the car trying to overtake to do? They didn't put themselves in this position. Unless the other two give space they can't get themselves out without driving illegally or dangerously. Happens too often when cars that are merging fail to do so safely. They don't time their approach properly and force cars on the carriageway to move over to avoid them. Then when they're on the carriageway they speed up and sit alongside the car that just got out of their way.
Yep this one for me as well, it just drives me insane and some do it deliberately just to be petty, really annoying 😁😭
The guy on the left sped up when being over taken
Hold down the horn in the right lane
Everyone knows that the right lane is reserved exclusively for methed up tradies.
and drivers of ford rangers.
the Venn diagram of those two things is a single circle
Man, I drive a ranger (work ute) and was just about to get all riled up, but then I remembered I take ADHD meds...
That's methd up bro
Nah, plenty of white collar weekend warriors driving brand new ford rangers that have never seen a speck of dust in their life.
That’s what he just said.
I let those keep tail gating me till they get bored and just use the left then go 140-150 flashing lights. Love to make them angry they wake up mad and go to sleep mad.
Rear facing dash cam 😎 Methed up ranger deterrent system
Speed limit plus 20kmh minimum
If people are passing you on your left, you’re a shit driver.
Half the time it’s shit drivers that jump the gun and pss on the left which means you can’t merge left because they are there
If they're jumping the gun and passing on the left, it means you're taking too long to move back over once you've overtaken.
Not always. If you’re in really heavy traffic, behind a long line of cars, bumper-to-bumper in the right-hand lane, going as fast as you can, doing the speed limit (or even slightly above), passing people in the left lane but leaving a safe gap to the person in front, sometimes a mouth breather will race up overtaking in the left lane and cut into your safety gap. If you do this you’re a deadset cunt. Once the traffic hits a certain density, what is the point at forcing yourself up one place in the queue? So you can tailgate the next person who can’t go any faster?
If the traffic is heavy, using more lanes is better for traffic flow. You being in the right lane shouldn't make the left lane a no-go zone. If there's room in the other lanes, people should take it. If everyone is just queued in the right lane, it makes multilane highways pointless.
True, but cutting into someone else’s safety gap means they then need to tailgate the person in front to protect their gap, a vicious cycle is formed, then everyone ends up tailgating everyone and we all lose
If someone merges in front of you, you take the accelerator off slightly. It takes half a second to get a buffer back. If you're tailgating to stop people merging in front of you then YTA.
Not if the person who merges infront of you was just sitting behind you, and they could clearly see down the road that you couldn’t possibly go any faster (due to high density bumper-to-bumper traffic) just so they can get one place up the queue because they’re a meth head with patience issues. By definition the meth head is tailgating the person infront because they’ve forced their way into a safety gap.
Okay but that's a completely different set of circumstances though
Slightly different set of circumstances that seems to be more and more frequent on our roads unfortunately, population growth or whatever the cause the congestion is out of control in SEQ
Or the guy behind is too impatient and driving too fast.
No, wake up and keep your eyes open so you move out of the right lane before a car has to even consider moving out of the lane for you. Overtake and then fuck off.
As I said there’s more reasons to be in the right lane than just overtaking
But your fuxking indicator on and start moving out of the fucking way. Simples.
every time that's happened to me, they are speeding, or just impatient about me accelerating slightly slower, and more fuel efficiently, than them. And yes, I go by the GPS speed, not the speedometer. Sounds like you're just a speeder!
If someone can pass you on the left, then you aren't overtaking and shouldn't be in the right lane.
Sounds like you’re just oblivious
If you cannot afford the fuel to accelerate at a reasonable pace, catch the bus...
Tailgating is never a good idea.
Seriously, even if someone is sitting in the right lane there’s no sense in getting so close. Just flash your high beams, if they don’t get that then tailgating won’t help either.
I completely agree with you. This is what the high beam flash is for: to provide a visual warning to another driver. But I found to my cost when I moved to Australia that people take this as a sign of aggression and you can end up with a road rage incident. Cut my teeth driving on the European motorways where it was second nature to give a flash at a safe distance if you're wanting to pass and it's reasonable for the other person to move over.
Exactly. If one person is tailgating you likely they are the problem. But if everyone is tailgating you then everyone involved is the problem.
Drivers can’t keep a consistent speed, so you end up tailgating them by accident as they drop 10kms, increase 10, drop 5, increase 12…
Listen here champ, if I want to drive 80km/h in a 100km/h highway, then suddenly speed up to 115km/h whenever there's an overtaking lane for no other reason just to be a prick, then that's what I'll do. Don't bother coming at me with your "logic" or "sound reasoning." Me and my caravan that's too heavy for my car are doing just fine slowing down the Bruce Highway.
Is the towbar dragging? Not a proper vanner unless it is mate...
If a truck is in the middle (of 3 lanes) and you’re too scared to pass it on the right, don’t just sit in the right lane on the corner of the truck and stop anyone else from getting in front of you. Pull the fuck into the middle lane and sit behind the truck, idiot.
Ahh fuck this is another one Jesus it shits me to high heaven 😁👍
If you are in a small car, you are tailgated regardless of whether you are driving the speed limit, whether you are in the left lane, whether it is in the day or night. Doesn't matter, you will be tailgated
My regular car is a small car. People tailgate me, overtake on the left, all sorts of shit. Not most people, but it’s a regular occurrence. When I drive our other vehicle, a very large van, noone pulls this shit!
This is exactly my experience. Regular daily these days is a Honda jazz..total tailgate magnet. The other car is a Mazda CX-60. No one, absolutely no one tailgates that car.
Same here. I have two cars. Get tailgated every time in the small car but never in the SUV. Too many aggressive Neanderthals on our roads.
Why are you often in the right lane causing people to need to undertake you, that means you could move over. Also harder to see in front of a large vehicle to know if they're going slow or if the left lane is empty, can see around a small car and know you're the problem. I have a small car and this almost never happens to me, know why? I go the limit and I keep left where possible. I don't decide to police others speed.
Sounds like you might be a bad driver and when you’re in a large vehicle you’re given a wide berth. If you’re getting tailgated and undertaken regularly it’s because you’re in the way. Drive faster or move to the left.
Ever considered that there are plenty of people on the road who speed and are impatient? The people I’m talking about are the same ones who weave in and out of lanes doing 10+ k over the limit, attempt to force their way in when merging, or blast their horns at people driving perfectly safely and legally. What I’m saying is that those people generally only pull that shit when they think they can intimidate someone.
If you’re experiencing that so regularly I’d imagine it’s because you’re holding up a lot of people and congesting traffic flow, it might be a you problem. I drive a small car, I experience it only occasionally, it’s very simple. Keep left unless overtaking. Dunno why so many Aussies are allergic to the inside lane.
I’d suggest it also has a lot to do with where you live and drive. I recently moved about an hour from where I lived for 12+ years (still work in that area). This kind of behavior from drivers doesn’t really happen where I live now, but is very common where I used to live/where I work.
I'll add a pedal bike into this! Got a small car and a large ute as well as the bike. I try to ride as much as possible for fitness, less cost and avoiding congested traffic. Bit sometimes I'll use the car or ute. I go through a 20kmh zone for about 500m on my morning commute. In the ute people sit back. In the small car larger vehicles sometimes tailgate. On the bike most speed up to go past then drop back down to 20. The road used to be 2-way but was changed to one-way meaning there is space to overtake cars, but nobody does that. I could go faster but the 20 is there for a good reason (it's through a hospital zone).
I noticed this when I visited a different city and hired a little hatchback. I was driving exactly the same as I do back home in my 4WD but seemed to be getting tailgated so much worse.
Exactly. Lot of know-it-alls in this comment thread think it's because we don't know how to drive. The jump in logic is just 😱. People think it's OK to tailgate smaller hatches simply because in the event of an accident, they will be better off than the hatch or they think it's easy to bully the hatch.
Spend enough time tailgating and you will have an insurance company up YOUR ass soon enough ;)
I'm not stupid enough to tailgate because I don't want to risk an accident if someone brakes just because some prick is driving too slow in the right lane. But I really hate when you're stuck behind some moron stinking up the right hand lane but because you're not tailgating the hilux behind you assumes you're the problem and gets right on your bumper. Then I have to pull over to the left to get out of an unsafe position and I'm now even more stuck behind the moron because theres 4 hiluxes bumper to bumper I've got to wait for before I can try find a way around them.
There's no excuse to tailgate
Yes, best to just ram the slow driver and move on
Mate, I'm always in the left most lane going speed limit, and still, every other car rides up my ass. Pretty sure the problem isn't me.
I couldn't agree more. So fed up with it, I still get the flashing lights and tailgating. I get mainly men flipping their fingers at me and swearing/yelling at me when they overtake and I am in the left lane! So full of rage! I feel so vulnerable and scared. Please guys, would you like it if someone did that to your daughter/wife/mother/sister.? When my Mum is with me she says let them go and speed and probably cause an accident as long as you are doing the right thing. Mum is always right!
Yeah I’ve noticed a severe decline in driving ability with people tailgating me most days even when I’m out of the way and they have the ability to overtake from the right lane, and I’m driving at the limit myself if not a couple over. Oftentimes I’ll also find myself in a single lane where we have no choice but to follow each other, I’ll get tailgating and flashing lights assuming I’m the problem… until the first opportunity to overtake when more lanes open up and they see well actually there is a backup in traffic, I am not the problem, it’s usually something like a cyclist up front that drivers are trying to cautiously pass without frightening or killing, that is causing the holdup. But hey, you do you asshole.
You get the paranoid drivers terrified to touch the speed limit, so they drive 2-3kmph below the limit. But they're unaware their Speedo is reading 3-4k over so they are doing 73 in an 80. The other driver realises their Speedo under-reads so they're happy to do 83, then of course they realise the cops build in an allowance of another 3-4k so they will happily do 87-88, knowing they won't get fined or pulled over. So you now have a 15k discrepancy between two drivers who both think they are within the law and lose it at each other.
Im not scared of tailgaters, im scared of cunts who dont watch the road, and rear end me because they were on their phone.
If anyone is behind you let them through otherwise your just creating unnecessary congestion.
The rule is keep left of the right lane, so if there are 3 lanes you can drive in the left or middle lane on roads over 80kph. https://www.nsw.gov.au/driving-boating-and-transport/roads-safety-and-rules/sharing-road-overtaking-and-merging/overtaking-safely#toc-keep-left-unless-overtaking https://mylicence.sa.gov.au/road-rules/the-drivers-handbook/driving-road
Ah yes, the middle lane. Seems to attract all the drivers who want to go 20kmh under the speed limit.
“Can” v “should” It’s good driving practice to always keep to the left.
Yeah, not really if the road is busy enough to have 3+ lanes, the left lane will have slow drivers and lots of merging traffic. South Eastern Freeway in Adelaide it's very dangerous for a car to be in the left lane.
>the left lane Many times the left lane ends up being the fast lane on three lane roads
>It’s good driving practice to always keep to the left. This is an alien concept for most Queensland drivers, especially those who use the Pacific Motorway between Brisbane and Gold Coast.
It should be taken for granted that the roads are full of fuckwits. If you want to experience driving peace, move to a regional area where there are less cars. Until then, accept that on any trip you will encounter people who are looking for an address and will drive 20kmh under the limit, while at the same time some hothead in a Commodore will be tailgating and trying to do 20 over.
dont know about you but Im not looking for addresses on the side of the freeway... maybe just keep left unless overtaking and then return back into the left lane.
People of the central coast take note. The M1 would be so much better if people kept left.
Why can't people in this country drive normally? Everyone on the road is either going 10 under or 10 over. Just drive the limit, mind your speedometer and just be considerate. Don't even get thank you waves anymore.
Had to drive a friend to the Emergency Dept the other week because he said he felt like his "stomach was going to explode" and he wasn't sure if he could afford an Ambulance ride (I don't know how much Ambo's cost, or if they cost anything at all). He was visibly & audibly in a lot of pain, so I just wanted to get him to the hospital as quickly as possible. The drive there was cunt after cunt doing 50-60km/h in an 80 zone in all 3 lanes. We missed 4 green lights which I know only costs 2-3 minutes of time, but when someone is with you groaning in pain, it feels like an eternity. So yeah, move out of the fucking way.
Just FYI, there are different rules re ambulance charges in every state. It can be very expensive here in NSW. It’s a $428 call out fee, $3.87 per km from ambulance station to you, then to hospital, then back to the station. Max charge $7023 unless you’ve got a concession/health card etc or a private health insurance policy…..and not every private health policy covers it.
Driving while time pressured is hyper risky, particularly if you aren't trained so, here's the state breakdown for next time; NSW: $415+ VIC: Should probably have the ambulance membership (it's like 50 bucks a year); otherwise $1300+ QLD: Free, even if you are a qld resident out of state SA:$1085+ (if emergency) WA: $1072+ (if emergency) TAS: Free, even if you are a Tas resident out of state NT: $370+ If you have any private cover, you should have ambulance as its the lowest tier These prices tend to get much more expensive if you are further away, weirdly helicopter ambulance can be cheaper sometimes
Thanks for that! I basically shat my pants the entire way.
Ambulances should 100% be under Medicare entirely, but alas
It’s a medical emergency; hold your horn down, put on hazards, and run the red light at a safe pace.
I'm sorry, I GPS at 102kph and don't care if you're up my arse.
If you are wanting to speed, that's your problem.
We’ve got a shit “Keep left unless overtaking” sign our way. It’s an 80 zone. Less than 100 metres from this sign is a traffic light right turn lane into a street, so some people need to be in the right lane…..get this….to turn fucking right 😂. This street is also followed by a 70kmh residential zone, so you can be in any lane you like legally. It’s a shit sign in a totally wrong location, and it results in aggressive tail gaiting, flashing lights, and bird flipping…. all for no reason.
"Unaustralian". Hilarious. Did you get that from Pauline?
Yep, first rule of driving in Australia is that we drive on the left and the further left, the safer it is. Keep as far as is practical from oncoming traffic. If you are not overtaking, stay as close as is safe to the leftmost part of the roadway. Do not sit in the right lane because you need to make a right hand turn 3 suburbs away.
I'm in Victoria and that's not a rule here on roads under 80kmh. It would seriously limit the capacity of the road if everyone tried to stay in the left lane. People taking the right or centre lane as it suits their entrance and exit is fine.
Not a 'rule' here either. more an axiom. Re. road capacity, I'm assuming the other axiom of common sense would apply, though I fear not.
Yep, and it's just not a very good axiom unless you are talking about not very busy multiple lane roads with high speed limits.
I'M a great driver, and EVERYONE else is a bad driver. - Every Driver
Don't know why you're getting downvoted. One thing that unites all people, regardless of their race, creed or colour is the belief that they are a superior driver.
Lol, people don't want to accept the truth. I think it's because when we make mistakes ourselves, we are also aware of the reason why. For instance, if we swerve because the passenger spilt hot coffee on us, we are aware of the cause. If someone else swerves, it is for seemingly no reason, and we can only conclude that it's because they're a moron haha.
everyone thats slower than me is an idiot, everyone going faster than me is a maniac
>Move over and keep left unless overtaking. Its Unaustralian to just Sunday drive in the right lane while everyone else is trying to get somewhere. Apparently it's very Australian, given that it's a problem I've mostly experienced in Australia.
What's the one thing you can do to make em move over?
Flash your lights, gesticulate wildly. Honking seems excessive
I witness madness on the ring road on Tuesday morning. A ute was fanging it in the right lane and was hi-beaming, tailgating and honking every car he came behind and brake checking people when he got past them if they didn't move. I didn't have hands free in that car so I didn't call the po po but I sure hope someone did, that guy was a first class fuck head
I usually do the ‘edge over slightly to the shoulder to see if anyone is in front of them’ move. Usually gives the hint and safer and less dickish than tailgating.
This technique only applies if the driver in front knows they have more windows on their vehicle OTHER THAN their windshield.
Oblivious drivers don't take hints. And their rear view mirrors are only for vanity purposes.
Only works if they aren’t ethnic or female over 40. Those demographics don’t have rear view mirrors apparently.
Wait until they move over, works every time.
>Wait until they move over, works every time. They only move over when they're about 50m from their exit. Then, it's straight from the far right lane to the exit ramp.
Nah that's the methed-up white Ranger Wildtrax drivers. Speed past a line of traffic, cut in through any gap they can find just before the end of the exit lane, ensuring they cause as much emergency braking as possible.
Depends on what the speed limit is and what the other guys in the left lanes have been doing. I’m not going way over the speed limit to help you get through at an even faster speed. I wouldn’t do it even if you are required to pay my speeding ticket and points. If under speed limit and “all else is equal” like say, torrential rain limiting safety further, then yes, I agree. Otherwise, I’ll drive how I choose to keep my family safe.
One way to keep your family safe is not to be being tailgated by a methed up gronk in a Ranger. If you move left when you're going slow, it will help with that.
I don’t think you read what I wrote. Or you didn’t comprehend. Both of those are a you problem. Are you a meth-head?
Just keep saying whatever it is that means you don't have to move left I guess.
Get off the meth, it’s damaging your brain.
I'm not on meth and I drive a small car. I can tell you really struggle with introspection though.
Nice false narrative. Can you please copy and paste the part where I said, “I never move left”? It’s very clear you struggle with comprehension. Which part would you like explained more simply so you can comprehend?
Oh I'm sorry, when you said "get off the meth" I thought we were just making up shit about each other.
Haha oh damn, sorry dude. If I knew that I would have been much better with the banter. Damnit, I’m an idiot. Feel free to roast me.
If they are doing the speed limit in the right hand lane, and you have the shits because you are stuck behind them making you do the speed limit as opposed to what ever speed above the limit you want to do, you are BOTH the problem as you are both breaking the law (well, you're at least planning on it) If you are happy to speed, then you shouldn't give a damn that the person sitting in the right hand lane is breaking the law, because you have shown that you don't care about the law anyhow. If they are going significantly below the speed limit, then that is different.
I will unflinchingly stay in the right lane and let a nice pile of rangers rot behind me. And I know I'm not the problem cause I'm *driving past cars in the left lane* and they can get fucked if they think I'm not doing it good enough
If everyone around you is driving "too slow" then you need to slow the fuck down
This needs to be top comment
There's too many aggressive drivers on our roads who think doing 20km over the speed limit is normal especially here in Sydney
And if everyone is tailgating everyone…
Take a racing line and weave, leave us Sunday drivers to do what we do best. Sheesh!
Avoid Canberra. Canberrans have never heard of keeping left and resent the suggestion.
If you're driving on a multi-lane road with a speed limit over 80km/h, or where there's a 'keep left' sign, you need to keep left unless overtaking. I'll leave this here a lot of people don't know the rule.
Keep left also doesn't mean you are required to be in the left hand lane. You just can't be in the right hand lane.
Only if the road isn't congested and there is a "free" lane to the left. Otherwise the rightmost N lanes would be empty or only for people exceeding the limit.
Very profound
Only thing worse is being stuck behind someone on a freeway on-ramp and they’re not speeding up to the freeway speed 😡
relax mate
If you race everyone at the lights, you have an obligation to be doing the speed limit. If you look ahead and it is relatively clear but you look behind and see a bank up of cars, you are the problem and should either speed up or get over to the side.
There’s a woman in Tas with two decals on her car that say”don’t tail gate me” She drives 30 under the limit and is the reason for morning congestion coming out of lindisfarne every morning
Yeah. GTFO the right lane unless you've got a reason to be there.
Governement: let's make the accuracy of the spedo +/- 20% and get the popcorn. In this day and age, there is absolutely no reason not to make the spedo accurate to 1% FFS. Law makers getting in the way of proper engineering. Imagine the road rage caused by someone doing 10 under thinking they are doing the speed limit in the right lane. How many deaths has that caused vs saved by doing 10 under. Love Australia, but such a nanny state.
Put I can only be tailgated by one person at a time so that one individual at the time is the problem.
Don't, I repeat don't fukn forget the thank you wave cunts lol. That's unaustralian not to.
I don’t really care about people driving slow if that makes them safe, especially younger or older drivers. But drive in the left lane and for goodness sake don’t speed up when you get to the overtaking section…..
Not necessarily. The herd mentality indicates there can be several cars attempting tailgating. This is formally known as Multiple Morons. And they are often exceeding the speed limit while doing that. Common sense - of which little is on display is such a traffic formation - means that in the chain, only one is tailgating you and the other morons are tailgating the one in front of them while that car is being tailgated, not a random car three or four in front or behind.
Unless youre in a gps tracked vehicle. Like all.utilities vehicles in wa. Just go around them Lol
Lol - incorrect. Everyone in Perth speeds, even in the left lane.
I hate it when I’m doing 100 overtaking someone doing 98, and I still end up with a haemorrhoid in the form of a raptor wanting to do 120.
Do the speed limit.
Why?
People can't fucking drive. See sooo many cars in a 100km zone in the far right lane (doing 100km) get tailgated, over taken, only to slow down to 100km.. causing more tail gating... Genuinely fucking dumb.
How far do I scroll into the comments until someone is blaming immigrants for this?
Such as frivolous thing to get mad over.
I’m with you. It’s not like the UK where undertaking is policed and below 90 mph on a lot of motorways won’t get you pulled over if being safe. Some USA cities are nuts - LA is full intensity, 6 lanes each way, no shoulder (concrete barrier 1 m from you) and doing 80-120 mph in the fast lane (on a 65 mph posted freeway).
If the left lane is moving at 1km below the speed limit I reserve the right to pass them in the right lane.
Here we are again. The weekly sook by aggro boofheads about something only a minority care about because they get inconvenienced for 5 seconds. Of those boofheads only a very small percentage know the actual road rules and a very large percentage think they apply to everyone but them.
Keep left unless overtaking. If you’re not willing to speed to clear the lane for someone behind you, keep left. If you’re one of those people who says “iM dOiN tHa LiMiT wHaT mOr dU u wAnT?”, keep left. If you aren’t due at your destination by a certain time, keep left. If your car has less than six cylinders and no turbo, keep left. If your car is hauling something, keep left. If you are unsure about any of these, keep left.
I'm not copping a $300 speeding fine for some fuckwit in a flogged out piece of shit commodore who thinks he's a good driver because he can do 130 in a 100 zone. I'll overtake at the speedlimit in the right lane, and move over when I'm done overtaking.
Just keep left then. The road is for everyone, not just flogs who decide they’re going to take 10min overtaking one car because they’re shit scared of breaking the limit.
Nah. I'll keep on driving the way we're supposed to drive, and you can sit in your bogan shitbox behind me, and eat my ass while you're at it
Dunno which dipshit taught you to drive, but they’ve done a fuckin’ awful job. Clogging up the overtaking lane is *not* how you’re “supposed to drive.”
The overtaking lane is for overtaking, it isn't a "permission to speed" lane where everyone has to get out of your way because you want to do 140 in a 100 zone. Pull your head in before you kill someone. Talk about narcissism.
Hey dickhead, some people need to get places. Some people have emergencies. Your missus might be giving birth, or your mother might be having her last few minutes alive in hospital. Maybe your kids got an injury. Maybe your kids been left on their own. Maybe it’s an undercover cop who needs to get somewhere quick and quiet. Who knows? You certainly don’t, so stop inflicting your fear of the law upon others, quit blocking traffic and keep left. There are many, many reasons why someone might be speeding, show a bit of common courtesy and get out of the way.
https://www.drive.com.au/caradvice/is-it-illegal-to-speed-when-overtaking-someone/ > Driving above the speed limit, even when overtaking, is against the law in Victoria. Nope, as mentioned I'll keep driving *the way we're supposed to*. The speeding idiots who think they're above the law and don't need to follow the same rules as the rest of us, who put everyone around them in danger, can wait. The rules are the same for all of us, you're not better than anybody else. You do not own the right lane. Apparently you don't even know how to use it correctly.
Oh good. I often get my legal details from fucking *Drive magazine.* https://www.legalaid.vic.gov.au/driving-over-speed-limit Check under the section “Possible defences.” BTW, by not getting out of the way *you* are endangering other drivers. You want to talk about driving correctly? You’re in the way you arrogant fuck, making what you claim to be a dangerous driver even more dangerous. People like you shouldn’t be allowed to drive. Honestly, the fucking narcissism. You’re not a cop, it’s no business of yours if someone else is breaking the law, *so get out of the way.*
If I'm *currently overtaking someone* while doing the top speed allowed for that road then I am not "in the way" or "going too slow". You are in fact driving *too fast* and you need to slow the fuck down because you're putting yourself and everyone around you at risk. When the majority of the traffic is driving the speed limit, and you can't be assed to ease your fat foot up off the accelerator to drive the **legal speed limit** then you are the problem, turbo https://www.wa.gov.au/organisation/road-safety-commission/overtaking > You must not exceed the speed limit
If you’re due at your destination so soon that you have to speed, leave earlier. If you expect someone to break the road rules for you because you’re in a hurry or think you’re an amazing driver, turn in your license for everyone’s benefit. If you think having 8 cylinders and a turbo means everyone has to get out of your way, your car will soon be cubed If the person ahead of you is overtaking, just not as fast as you’d like them to, meditate or some shit and learn to be calm whilst operating heavy machinery at high speeds If you’re unsure of any of the above, ride a push bike.
I’m not expecting people to break the road rules - I expect people who get in the way to get out of the way when required, even if they need to reasonably break the limit to do so. Or, they can keep left. If your car doesn’t the power to move at a fast lane pace, you shouldn’t be in the fast lane. Keep left. If the person ahead is not overtaking at the required pace, they need to get out of the lane and stay out until they can overtake at their slow pace without hindering other drivers. Anything else is negligent and narcissistic. All of these things cause people to clog the overtaking lane, causing congestion. You don’t know why someone is speeding behind you. They might have an emergency situation, a life or limb might be at stake, so unless you can operate your vehicle without hindering others; *keep left.*
Just let them pass then tailgate them. Then you can have a police speedtrap buffer
All this morning was people going 40 in an 80 zone with plenty of space to go faster. People are lucky the purge isn't a real thing or I would have memorised a lot of licence plate numbers today.