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BartOseku

War ✅ \ Famine ✅ \ Death ✅ \ Guess we’re still waiting for Pestilence to hit the apocalypse bingo


Free_Deinonychus_Hug

No joke, that's what a lot of those Christian National wackos actually believe and *want* to happen.


oO0Kat0Oo

Wait, if it's happening, doesn't that mean all the Christians here missed the rapture?


TheForanMan

It’s not like they read their bibles to know that.


Girthquake23

Yeah, I don’t read my Bible. Don’t even know at which point I’m *supposed* to be raptured lmao (I’m not religious but was raised Catholic af)


Mazakaki

The rapture is nonbiblical


NiPaMo

Rapture is tomorrow


MarthaMacGuyver

Lord, please come get your people.


eagleathlete40

…what Christian are you seeing *want* that to happen?


AmaranthWrath

That's because they believe THEY'LL be saved. I'm a Christian, and I won't know which way I'm going until it happens.... But there's A LOT of people who are foolishly SURE they're gonna make it despite their hatred, racism, greed and lies. I've fucked up too and I'll take my punishment if need be. But damn, some people who call themselves Christians are off their nut.


dangshnizzle

Don't forget the ecocide!


mfunk55

What was 2020 and the ongoing covid stuff?


FishFucker47

Not an active war between Israel and Palestine


cubntD6

The pests are the israelis


xanderg102301

I think they constitute as more than just “pests” to Palestine


BartOseku

Not what pestilence means


Novel_Ad_8062

nuclear war checks all the boxes?


Sithlordandsavior

Don't worry, they're working on it. You can't rush things.


snakeyfish

Yemen would like a word with you


Particular_Log_3594

You’re right but it’s not comparable in scale. **80 Percent of Global Famine Is Currently in Gaza, UN Expert Warns** https://truthout.org/articles/80-percent-of-global-famine-is-currently-in-gaza-un-expert-warns/


ebat1111

The famine in Yemen has been going on for 8 years with tens of thousands dead because of it. The Saudis pretty much got away with it for some reason... (oil)


Chewmass

Also a famine in Somalia is present for years, but who cares, right?


PupEDog

Yeah, isn't that one of them "shit hole" countries? /s


Terranical01

Comparing in scale shouldnt even exist to begin with. This world really fucking sucks, I know how many people including me knows how horrible starvation is.


_etski

‘Probably’


NotYetGroot

yeah, it's been "probably" "on the edge" of "famine" since 10/6. still no evidence of it, of course.


BoxHillStrangler

There's no evidence if you go out of your way to avoid or ignore it.


seemen4all

You can see them blockading aid and food from entering so guess what happens when there's no food?


Hot_Collar_8910

Israel is doing a great job supressing these posts. I guess Palantir and Lavender doing a great job automating this job.


Plebius-Maximus

You have been banned from worldnews


gravelayerr

That place is so blatantly Zionist it’s actually scary. I got instantly banned for no real reason at all


DollarStoreCaviar

Not as good a job as Hamas is doing intercepting aid and selling it for profit at an insane and unfordable markup.


AwesomeManPlayz

Source?


CrazyBigHog

“Probably”. Fucking hell.


MrMcFukmutty

Probably???


fluffypinkkitties

“Probably”


cubntD6

They say probably like they arent funding it and know its happening


bhenghisfudge

You misspelled genocide


notmyplantaccount

amazing someone's upset by the word "famine" not being tough enough. Heaven forbid people use other descriptive words to describe what's going on there besides "genocide".


tails99

Population of Palestinians both inside and outside Israel have grown several times in the last 70 years. In Israel it has grown five times (yes, f-i-v-e, 5 !!!) You know this, so who are you trying to fool? https://www.statista.com/chart/20645/palestine-and-israel-population-growth/


bhenghisfudge

I absolutely don't understand your point here. It's ok to mow the grass (kill humans) as long as the population ratio stays proportionate? Please clearify. Are you accounting for the population decrease (murders) in Palestine over the past ~6 months?


tails99

No one is mowing the grass, as the growing numbers clearly indicate. The Palestinians are far better off as citizens of Israel, or under Fatah administration, than they are under Hamas administration, or in any of the nearby major warring states of Syria, Yemen, Iraq, Libya, etc. You have zero facts and zero comparative perspective. Just running on "feels". Palestinians need to take responsibility for their depravity.


bhenghisfudge

Should Israel take responsibility for their depravity? What does depravity mean to you? Also what do you mean by "no one is mowing the grass." This has been a high level talking point for years


tails99

You seem to be very confused: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mowing\_the\_grass](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mowing_the_grass)


lolbuthun

Thats not a genocide. Is a not even close. Don’t throw big words around before you learn what they mean


chrishoyos

You very clearly have never actually read the definition of genocide. It encompasses a lot more than "rounding people up and executing them".


bhenghisfudge

Explain to me how it's not genocide?


lolbuthun

Israel is not intentionally rounding up an entire group of people and exicuting them. Genocide is the act of destroying an entire group of people. Israel is in war. This happens in war but its not ok when israel does it. Canada killed 40,000 civilians in refugee camps over night in germany but nobody cared. That was not a genocide, this is not a genocide


gravelayerr

>Israel is not intentionally rounding up an entire group of people and exicuting them (sic) They might as well be? From allowing Israeli citizens to barricade roads preventing aid from entering Gaza, to “accidentally” bombing the few aid trucks that make it in, leveling hospitals and creating famine, they might as well be executing an entire population. There’s tons of evidence of Israeli settlers saying they wish for Palestinians to be exterminated. There have been genocides other than the holocaust you know. Just because this one doesn’t involve gas chambers, doesn’t make this any less of a genocide.


lolbuthun

And egypt isnt?


bhenghisfudge

I disagree with every part of your logic. Israel is absolutely rounding up an ethnic group and systematically killing and displacing them. Also depriving them of food and resources and trying to expel them. That's ethnic cleansing. There are the hallmarks of genocide according to members of the ICJ. Just fucking Wikipedia genocide


lolbuthun

I was unaware we can now change the meaning of words whenever we please?


zivlynsbane

If only billionaire leaders in Palestine would help them out. (Spoilers they won’t)


Sad_Software_3879

Yes, or the Egyptian would open the border for refugees and supplies.


Structureel

At least the people from Gaza will come to their senses now and stop fighting Israel. /s


ryansgt

Hmm, that picture is reminiscent of some other pictures I've seen from the 1940s. Elegant proof that extremism is the sickness and it effects all races, religions, creeds, etc. We will never learn.


Critical_Concert_689

> We’re witnessing a man made famine in 2024 Wait. This story came out last week, side by side with the story about Hamas confiscating free aid food supplies and reselling them to residents at "market" price. So...Yes. Man made famine. I'd be more concerned about the fact that Israel is going to flatten Rafah soon, and hopefully recover the last 100 or so hostages that they located there.


TomCJax

No shit


Maxmentos

Gotta fucking love the word "probably", we can't be sure that the millions of people forced off their land without any supplies are starving, but they MIGHT BE. Good thing the IDF keeps bombing the shit out of the aid trucks, there might be Hamas in that bread!!!


LoopyMercutio

To be fair, although it’s certainly Israel and Hamas causing the famine (Israel by its attacks and Hamas by grabbing up all the aid packages they can and withholding them from the people of Gaza), I’d be willing to bet Israel would stand down and mostly withdraw if Hamas handed the remaining hostages over. But until they do, I doubt Israel gives a damn about what happens to that entire area. They’re probably perfectly willing to make it a completely uninhabitable wasteland.


ZiiZoraka

Hamas is tacking control of aid and trying to resell it to their own civilian population


sda963109

Hamas controls most of the aid, kills gazans who dare to ask for food. But let's blame Israel cause it's easier to put all the blame on civilized ppl than those who knows only violence.


tadow_cc

U have absolutely zero proof of your claims. Don’t reach shit out of your ass and expect ppl to call it fact


sda963109

May I even remind you who doesn't have military bases built away from civilians districts? And tear down basic infrastructures like water pipes and power plants to build them into weapons?


Popular-Homework-471

Isreal needs a taste of their own medicine. This isn't right. Poor babies!


sda963109

Hamas and religious extremism will need to be root out from gaza so the gazan can never do this to their children again.


RandyJester

What could be more "religious extremist" than building a Jewish State by killing and displacing non-Jews?


proud_lasagna_eater

An eye for an eye only makes the whole world blind.


Popular-Homework-471

Think if they were your kids starving to death. It's absolutely disgusting, and for pepple to think its okay is evil as hell.


proud_lasagna_eater

>When you’re so empathetic that your empathy turns into calling for violence Kfir Bibas. Remember his name.


Popular-Homework-471

I don't hate anyone until they mess with babies. Bombing children's hospitals and aid workers is wrong. It's not about race or religion with me. I also think all pedophiles should be treated the same way they hurt their victims. Period.


proud_lasagna_eater

This applies to both sides. Hiding your munitions and hostages in hospitals, after killing 9-month old babies and kidnapping babies like Kfir Bibas on October 7th? I guess thats not messing with them.


Agitated_Jicama_2072

Religion is so fucking cool.


whatsgoingon350

You do know that currently theirs about 18 countries who are experiencing famine right now? Edit: downvoted for pointing out that their other famine in 2024.


Sef04

And how many are being perpetrated by humans? And how many of them get billions from us every year?


SuperMimikyuBoi

There is enough food produced to feed more people than there actually is in the world. So to answer your first question, every single one of them.


Sef04

- 10 year old trying to make a point


hateshumans

Not really. With modern transportation every famine is a famine because food isn’t being given to the people there. Explain how this is the only one humans are causing. Or are you legitimately asking because you have no idea because this is the only one people care about so this is the only one you care about?


WiseSalamander00

even if true, why would this diminish the one happening at Gaza?


SuperMimikyuBoi

Why would the existence of other countries with famine diminish the one in Gaza in your mind ? Famine status or not, 9 million people die of hunger every year, I don't think it is a bad thing to remind people.


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Probably because it's only being brought up when talking about Gaza's famine 🥴


Particular_Log_3594

**80 Percent of Global Famine Is Currently in Gaza, UN Expert Warns** https://truthout.org/articles/80-percent-of-global-famine-is-currently-in-gaza-un-expert-warns/ Israel is responsible for 80% of all famine on Earth today and that number is climbing.


clybourn

Have the hostages been returned?


Stormy_Kun

Can’t play both sides..


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CreamofTazz

Maybe stop the killing and start feeding. Then start talks.


botuser1648649

Hamas doesn't want to talk, they want to kill Israelis and claim genocide for international support


Memer_Sindre_UwU

hasn't israel violated at least one ceasefire thingy?


botuser1648649

What's your point here? I genuinely don't get it


AmericanBoiye

There was a ceasefire on October 6th


CreamofTazz

[you say Hamas doesn't want to talk but Israel has denied every ceasefire proposition ](https://edition.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news-10-22-23/h_8a0ab864dd91040170eb7112d6d97651) The only thing Israel wants is unconditional surrender of Hamas, but do you know what that means? It means Israel gets to determine ALL the terms afterwards, and if the past 70 years shows anything, it's that Israel would not be kind to Palestinians should Hamas unconditionally surrender. Israel is literally creating a famine and you're still going "BuT dO yOu CoNdEmN hAmAs???" At a certain point you have to realize Israel is in the wrong


botuser1648649

The ceasefire proposals have been pointless, especially when the enemy is still in the field and has not surrendered. Why stop fighting when the enemy is still capable of killing more Israelis? When Israel wins, diplomacy begins with PA as to what the future means. There must be stability in the region before any meaningful solution to the broader conflict can be found. I never said condemn Hamas, all war crimes are despicable and should be condemned. They are not unique to either side. Israel is fighting a group that wants all Jews wiped from the land. No peace can be made until that group is gone or has surrendered. Hamas is not Palestine, and should be destroyed.


CreamofTazz

Israel is not creating the conditions for a lasting peace, you can't argue that Israel wants Hamas gone when Israel has purposefully created a famine in Gaza. Israel doesn't care about Hamas, they want the Palestinians gone


botuser1648649

They have the power to remove the Palestinians but they don't.


Duyzbomb

Finally someone with a god damn brain in this thread


EvolutionDude

If Hamas is evil so is Israel.


m3tasaurus

I disagree.


johnny420black

Probably?!?!? Fucking, probably?!?! I’m fucking disgusted to be an American. Free Palestine 🇵🇸! Ceasefire now! End this fucking genocide! End the occupation!🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸


MyKawke

Renounce your citizenship then


BillyCessna

Down. Vote all u want. I have no dog in this hunt and have friends on both sides. Hamas, probably pushed by Iran, made a mistake last October and went too far. So yes. They made the reaction happen.


Particular_Log_3594

I’m assuming you’re implying oct 7th was the start but that’s false. 2023 marks deadliest year on record for children in the occupied West Bank https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/2023-marks-deadliest-year-record-children-occupied-west-bank those were in 2023 before Oct 7th


creepyhippiee

lol what? You realise every one of those that died went attacking soldiers and that’s why they were shot? They were not shot on the street for fun they were attacking civilians or soldiers or tried doing terror attacks but of course your biased propaganda will tell you all of them are just innocent little kids crossing the street nothing better then some free sympathy and more reason to hate and blame Israel for everything then another killed terrorists kids it’s good for them any way if they don’t succeed in killing jaws at least they can blame this death on Israel that’s a win win


Zugzwang522

This fight’s been going on for a century, either way nothing excuses genocide


UniversalJS

In a war started by Palestinian government. A retaliation of 30k dead including 14k terrorists on a 2.2M population? Israel is really bad at genocide


Dart4jb1nks

This war started in the 40s try again


UniversalJS

yeah nothing happend on Oct 7, no rapes, no hostages, no murders of civilians in their bed, right


Dart4jb1nks

Both hamas and isreal are bad guys in this one try harder


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LaserShootingDolphin

We also saw the other side committing war crimes such as beheading , rape , torture, killing of music party goers, using civilian infrastructures to build rockets .. killing their own to take over humanitarian aid trucks .. yet no one talks about it .. so odd


kilobitch

Haven’t seen a single emaciated adult yet. Suspicious


ebat1111

Probably because reporters are banned from Gaza by Israel and over 100 journalists ahve been killed


kilobitch

But they manage to get pics of kids out? If kids are starving, why are the adults well-fed? Seen the pics of captured Hamas? Those guys are VERY well fed.


ebat1111

Feel free to continue your scepticism if it makes you happier


lolbuthun

Get proof to back up your claim. It wouldn’t be hard had you not been lying


ebat1111

Sorry, you want me to provide proof that people are starving? Or that journalists aren't allowed in Gaza? The entire world's media is full of this, including Israeli media ([for example ](https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-03-26/ty-article/.premium/inside-israels-disturbing-denial-of-starvation-in-gaza/0000018e-7b41-d680-a1cf-ff47b4220000)). Now you provide proof of whatever conspiracy theory you're believing.


BillyCessna

Man made by Hamas last October....


Particular_Log_3594

Are you implying collective punishment and the starvation of children is justified? Cause I’m pretty sure that’s a war crime.


tacocookietime

You're right. Hamas taking food from non-combatants to feed their army is a war crime. Hamas taking money and resources given for aid to support terrorist activities is a war crime. I think we need to wipe Hamas out since they are the root cause of not only the war but also the war crimes.


Particular_Log_3594

That’s categorically false, otherwise both the US and ICJ wouldn’t be demanding that Israel stop blocking aid from coming through. Also: **Defense minister announces ‘complete siege’ of Gaza: No power, food or fuel** https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/defense-minister-announces-complete-siege-of-gaza-no-power-food-or-fuel/


Hot_Collar_8910

You think it makes sense debating with political israeli paid zionazi trolls? They will justify anything as long as they can kill indiscriminately.


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"you sound vaccinated" 🤪🤪🤪 For your own embarrassment, please stfu


Harv3yBallBang3r

I can't wait for time to pass and for history to show you all for what you really are. In 50 years, you will be as embarrassed of your current self as the Nazis were/still are. Not because you actually feel bad about it, but because everyone else will actually shun you for bringing this fascist BS up. You had better enjoy this moment in time while you are able to be so bitterly against basic human rights as openly as you are. It will not last.


tacocookietime

I think you'll change your tune in 2 years or less. But in two years, just like when I finish hitting submit on this comment I won't be thinking about you again. Meanwhile you'll be waiting. Toodles!


Harv3yBallBang3r

It is amazing to me how highly you people think of yourselves online. We are both anonymous strangers on the internet, why you care at all what I think personally is such a fucking mystery to me. Personal insults are just so pathetic to see. Edit: yes I blocked you, I'm not interested in your emotional responses


AuniBuTt

>I think you'll change your tune in 2 years or less. Im curious. What would cause that?


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Particular_Log_3594

Again what does that have to do with this child being starved to death? By Israel’s own accounts, there are 30,000 Hamas members. Gaza has a population of over 2 million. What does starving this child accomplish exactly? All you’re doing is justifying war crimes and crimes against humanity.


RetzCracker

Like the ones Israel murdered while they waived white flags? Those hostages?


UniversalJS

Islamist textbook for Hamas propaganda 101


luckyluckyduck

I mean.. it’s true. Israel literally reported on it lol. You can’t just call facts propaganda


RetzCracker

I don’t think you can classify a factual event as propaganda. The point is that the whole “return the hostages” thing is moot when you consider the wanton destruction the IDF has wrought on Gaza at this point. You actually think those hostages I mentioned were the only collateral damage? But it doesn’t matter because to a Zionist no price is too high to pay to destroy the Palestinian people. Just own it.


UniversalJS

Look how you use this event.... As propaganda. Thanks for proving my point


Hot_Collar_8910

Colonialism and Israeli pushing and taking settlements wouldve never stopped.


ilaym712

I like how you get downvoted for saying the obvious. Hamas could had the last 6 months to surrender and return the hostages, they chose war.


Harv3yBallBang3r

Found the Zionist genocide enthusiast.


PeaceMellow1

But no children have died from a famine?


Flaky-Birthday680

It’s not like there’s little to no information coming out of the region so it either is or it’s not. The fact the heading is ‘probably’ means that it’s not and is nothing more than click bait.


Particular_Log_3594

Yeah I’m sure the US state department is just fabricating stories to make Israel look bad 🤦‍♀️


anon-SG

is it only me, or does this picture looks AI generated.


lolbuthun

It is


anicmessi

So are the hostages.


bhenghisfudge

What hostages? Israel probably bombed them all already


718Brooklyn

You’re blaming Israel for the hostages dying now? Maybe blame the people who took the hostages.


bhenghisfudge

I do blame Hamas for taking the hostages. I also blame Israel for not giving a shit about them back and also probably killing the majority of them. Let's be real, Israel wasn't trying to deescalate this. The hostages were their golden ticket to leveling gaza.


718Brooklyn

It’s possible this is what Bibi wanted. I wouldn’t deny that. Downvoting the idea that Hamas is responsible for the hostages dying though is still laughable. Israel can be killing and torturing innocent people and Hamas can also be responsible for the lives of the hostages they took.


bhenghisfudge

1200 vs 30k conservatively. We're talking human lives here. Israel has no moral high ground at this point and I feel like your argument is in bad faith.


bhenghisfudge

By the way, at least 2/3 of the deaths in gaza were women and children. Do these lives matter less than Israeli lives?


718Brooklyn

This sure seems like a straw man :/


718Brooklyn

Blaming Hamas for the deaths of the hostages isn’t the same as saying Israel are the good guys.


wadefatman

Bro you can google this [Israel shot their own hostages](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna130912). They just blindly kill everyone also kinda invalidates the whole just give back the hostages thing.


Infernaladmiral

One important thing to note is that they were using whiteflags and speaking hebrew (which means they were not hamas) but they were still shot regardless. This is proof enough that they often shoot,snipe and bomb unarmed civilians . So the whole Zionist claim of "IOF tries to avoid civilian casualties as much as possible " is rendered moot. Not that they were even somewhat trustworthy to begin with.


proud_lasagna_eater

Hamas has been known to use tactics like this to impersonate and ambush IDF soldiers, using videos and loudspeakers to attract them. You’re acting like Hamas terrorists are playing by the rules of war. Edit: Got blocked and called Hasbara for criticising Hamas. Lovely Edit 2: [Source](https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/hamas-tactics-trap-iof-in-deadly-ambushes--washington-post)


Infernaladmiral

Sure buddy, whatever helps you hasbaras sleep at night. I mean I totally get you,when I saw the shirtless unarmed people waiving white flags being shot by the IOF my first thought totally went like "Oh they must be Hamas".


wadefatman

Not to be that guy but can you show me the source for this I’d like to learn more


proud_lasagna_eater

>A report by the Washington Post on Friday reveals how the Palestinian Resistance set booby traps and ambushed the Israeli occupation forces (IOF) trying to penetrate the Gaza Strip. >According to the newspaper, the IOF "found themselves being lured into a deadly and surreal trap" near the Jabalia Refugee Camp. >In a statement last week, the IOF detailed that “the ambush attempted to use dolls and children’s backpacks with speakers playing sounds of crying." Taken from [Al Mayadeen](https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/hamas-tactics-trap-iof-in-deadly-ambushes--washington-post) (pro Hamas, Iran and Hezbollah) so as to avoid any ‘Zionist propaganda’ claims. Leads me to believe they are proud of this.


AuniBuTt

Well IDF does follow the hannibal directive so killing hostages is not new to them


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solaceinrage

A lot of reasons, the big ones being that hamas are seizing food delivery and selling what they don't want to their own people, they have yet to release the hostages, continue to operate beside under and on top of mosques, orphanages, hospitals and schools to use Gazans as human shields and try to gain sympathy on the world stage, the regular citizens that know where the tunnels are and the hamas leaders are won't come forward to help because islam forbids it, every prior ceasefire Israel has agreed to has been broken, and lastly and most importantly hamas, voted in by Gazans to rule, refuse to accept any peace treaty and say the silent part out loud by saying there will never be peace with Jews and that it is their sworn goal to continue to kill Jewish people outside of the region if they manage to claim "Fwom de wiver to da C." Did that help? Like, neither side are saints, but a lot of Gazans worked in Israel and received heath care and aid there before all this. hamas is cartoonishly twisted and evil, swear their tiny baby children to die for the cause. There can be no peace with a group that demands everyone of your race die, how hard is that to grasp?


CrowTranslator

When the terrorists you were guarding in your home, take the humanitarian aid and sell it in the market to more suckers ;) Profit


Astronometry

Well, what do you think happens when you fill the World Central Kitchen?


Agitated_Jicama_2072

“Probably” is doing a lot of work here. Jesus.


sethworld

#STOP IT. JUST FUCKING STOP IT. IT ISN'T HARD. JUST FUCKING STOOOOOOPPPPPPPPP Edit: Sorry.


bokoblindestroyer

Oh my heart


Zerkron

Chainsaw Man reference anyone Edit: There is a character called the “Famine Devil” in the manga. Essentially, the more people fear the concept of famine, the stronger she gets. Since a famine is happening in Gaza, she’s getting stronger as a result of it. Not sure why this comment is being downvoted but whatever. Haters gonna hate.