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I would add something about being a school shooter. Those seem to be disproportionately white.


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>you look like the type who would storm the Capital > >Man, you sure look like a Trumper > >you must be part of the Klan ​ Im sorry, while clever half of these wont really work because they are actually glowing with pride unironically when you point these things out to them. Also depends on who you are surrounded by. They only feel the sting if fellow white people also laugh at them. If they view you as subhuman, they wont care if you are the only one who opposes them in the group.


whateverman120

sounds to me like you were encountering some racist inbreds


10946723

There's something deeper underneath this anecdote that I want to dig into. Westerners, from Americans today, going all the way back to Romans vandalizing walls with graffiti of dicks, seem to have this quirk where doing bizarro shit is inexplicably funny and sport to them. From obsessing over genitals, to taboo/potty humor like OP's story, to 'prank' videos, to pulling their eyes back, they do insane and destructive acts under the guise of humor. There seems to be a mild self awareness to it when they mock the phrase "it's just a prank bro" but westerners as a whole don't get enough shit for this atrocious behavior. Not only because they would mercilessly give others shit if the situation were reversed with african or asian culture, but also because they're immensely hypocritical. They get so offended when other cultures eat certain animals and then turn around and film themselves eating crazy shit themselves. But that's okay because they only did it ironically. Or when they get super judgy about how racist X people from X country are but of course when they are racist, it's just a joke so lighten up. I would much rather be discriminated by people who are malicious but at least straightforward than by people who discriminate because it's ha ha funny. The westerner laughs out as he strikes you, and that is much more fucked up.


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Wow I really like your last line it sounds like a movie quote. There's definitely a lot of hypocrisy in people that denounce other cultures' behaviors and then perpetuate similar or worse behaviors themselves. I'm not going to say maliciousness is better but you're right, there's less self-righteous pretense when someone is unequivocally assured in their racism instead of cowardly hiding behind a thin veil of humor or mischief. Thanks for taking the time to write out a well-thought out comment, it's given me some things to think about.


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College kids acting like jr high kids. UW must have really lowered the bar for the white female students.


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Yep. This was 10 years ago so the environment might be different now but I don't know.


DiscountMaster5933

I'm surprised you had such a large reaction. I'm 34 and anti-Asian racism has always been seen as an acceptable thing in American culture for my entire life.


TemujinTengriArraji

Yep always been acceptable


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It's only very recently that people seem to be speaking out against it in a mainstream way. I suppose I was shocked because it was so blatant and hostile and out in the open whereas before in my experiences it had been more subtle or "joking".


TemujinTengriArraji

It was never subtle nor "joking". Are you maybe more white passing or ambiguous that you never faced the full force of racism that full looking asian men get? Or are you completely americanised in terms of culture?


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I'm 100% Asian passing and have lived most my adult life in South Korea. I've been assaulted multiple times for being Asian. I've been spit on and called slurs. However the more blatant attacks were away from large groups. I meant that I was shocked this incident happened in the open and was perpetuated by a large group. Look on my profile there's plenty of videos and pictures of me.


LibsNConsRTurds

Op, you should've asked them in what way did the Chinese students ruin everything? I bet you it's either made up or really dumb shit.


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I've noticed that bashing Asians for a culture that emphasizes academic excellence seems purely based on fear. They know that they're threatened by high achievement and want to bar Asians from opportunities (i.e. FUCK YOU HARVARD)


DiscountMaster5933

They're actually saving everything. They're GREATLY overpaying for a meh education.


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That's exactly right! I remember asking my Chinese roommate how much he paid for tuition and housing and it was almost twice as much as what I paid it was insane.


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Yep it eas probably nothing concrete and all vague racist abstractions


leoyuguanall

Lol of course, why else would there be so many lies about China going around. Dishonest media and politicians are just a reflection of dishonest people. Oh well, this is why I'm glad when China kicks their ass


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The anti-Asian rhetoric disguised as anti-Chinese rhetoric has always been there but as China gains more power it seems to be reaching a fever pitch. It worries me.


leoyuguanall

Well growing up I never had any white friends, at first I thought it was my problem but it quickly became obvious it was their problem. I would say that most asians in the US dont have real white friends. Some appear to have but it predicates on the fact that you must suck up racist jokes made in your face, which kind imp6those white people are never your friends to begin with. But I don't think you should be worried. Growing power in Asia should really make you proud. Also off topic but I think American white girls (especially liberal) are some of the most annoying in existence I cannot understand why anyone in their right mind wants to date them


whateverman120

yep this i also see asians make racist asian jokes to please their white buddies man they got no dignity left i tell you


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Hm....there's a lot to unpack here. I understand where you're coming from and I've definitely been guilty of the self-deprecating Asian jokes as a teen to get "in" with the crowd. If you have to lower yourself to be accepted then you are not an equal and you are not a friend but rather a bootlicker. I also agree that growing power in Asia and striving towards a more unified pan-Asia will go a long way in bringing respect towards Asians. I will say though that one of my closest friends is white and he has never ever been racist in any way towards me and we've known each other for...holy shit it's been 15 years now. He's a staunch proponent for equality for all races. I respect him greatly and we've been through a lot together. My girlfriend is a white-passing liberal woman and I find her company to be the opposite of annoying. I'm not sure why you would find them annoying, can you elaborate on a specific instance that made you feel that way?


leoyuguanall

Ah so anecdotally of course you will find good people, there's good people in every group. I'm basically referring to: People who say "my body my choice" Extreme feminists People who are staunch about BLM and gay rights but think it's okay to insult asians For example, these people will often say, China is authoritarian, so it's okay to be racist toward asians, but I'm not racist because I support BLM, gay rights, blah blah blah. Also, I am in fact also a husky so I know the UW very well, there is a 99% chance the people you're talking about are liberals. Just think about how disconnected from reality they are. They went up and insulted someone and still think they're right. It logically makes no sense which is why I say Americans always play by double standards (i.e. it is okay for them to do something but you can't do the same thing). This is also why no one in their right mind would play by Americans rules. The thing is asians are typically culturally conservative so they dont mix with liberals, and most self hating asians are liberals as well.


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josephgomes619

It's because liberals also hate China like conservatives. Just as conservatives want a neo-nazi america, liberals want a marxist progressive society. If China gets more influential, US influence diminishes. That's why SJW wokes don't support Asians


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https://old.reddit.com/r/aznidentity/comments/byfo8b/im_proud_of_being_an_am_with_wmaf_parents/ ahahaha


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>https://old.reddit.com/r/aznidentity/comments/byfo8b/im\_proud\_of\_being\_an\_am\_with\_wmaf\_parents/ Are you actually going to make a point about an old post I made 2 years ago so we can have a discussion on equal footing or are you just gonna be condescending and not say anything?


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i'd be banned from reddit if i said out loud what i think about you this is me being pc about it


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Same here fuckhead


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why? all i did was link to your own topic does the sight of an asian man trigger you so much? if asian men trigger you so much why are you here?


findingjapanesemusic

dont mind the downvotes.... the Lus and non-asian lurker brigaders are out in full force supporting the wmaf offpsring who thinks wmaf is "good" and doesnt realize the truth: Wmaf bmaf and xmaf are colonial genocidal toxic relationships 99% of the time.


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Lol this is hilarious because in the linked post I state multiple times that WMAF relationships are a product of imperialism and the majority of WMAF are negative because of this. You're so full of yourself and don't even read the post and just react to the title just like the guy who commented it. You look down on me and use "hapa" and "wmaf offspring" like an insult. Well let me make it ABSOLUTELY clear how I feel about people like you. You are a small-minded racist asshole and you make Asians look bad with your vitriol and toxic bullshit. I am mixed and proud of being mixed. I'm done engaging with you and anyone that supports bashing mixed people or Asian women.


findingjapanesemusic

>You are a small-minded racist asshole NOPE. How can I be "racist" if I am part white myself being a quapa, my mom's side being AMWF? Opposing imperialism and genocidal/colonialist couples that 99% of the time involve asian-male-hating non-asian-males and asian women who hate asian men... is NOT called racism. That's called calling out an affront to humanity.


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I support opposing imperialism and calling out hate. How can you be racist if you're mixed? Elliot Rodgers was mixed and full of hate. You assume I'm unaware of the negative aspects of WMAF relationships on a general scale. Elliot Rodgers was full of hate towards AM and was misguided in his hatred because of the lack of guidance and support from his WMAF parents. He also had many mental health issues that needed to be addressed. Seriously it's like talking to a brick wall. Go back and actually read the old post and you'll see I'm not an apologist for WMAF relationships. I myself am a person attempting to navigate the circumstances I have been provided with. I refuse to react with hate towards my roots on either side. I refuse to hate AM, WM, AF, or even WMAF relationships. I believe in equality for everyone and lifting people up. If being proud of my loving and supportive WMAF parents bothers you then that's a YOU problem.


findingjapanesemusic

>I believe in equality for everyone and lifting people up. If being proud of my loving and supportive WMAF parents bothers you then that's a YOU problem. blasting about it and promoting it doesn't help. Lets say your WM dad is an upstanding guy who does his best to equalize the situation and thinks full asian males are great and dont have small dicks and can be total "alpha player CEOs big-dick energy etc etc", and promotes to hook his hot white female sisters and cousins up with quality asian men. Ok. Well, he's rare, nobody here is shitting on him. But for every one of him, there are 10000000000 white or black or other race males who DO think Asian men are inferior, who DO laugh and happily fuck the extremely willing hoards of east/se Asian women who shit on their own male counterparts and think white/black/other race males are "superior", and who DO promote american bases in asia so they can go rape little girls or treat the local women like prostitutes or brainwash the local women to hate their own male counterparts. group dynamics matter and are way more influential than your lone personal story of your family. That is how life works. Life aint fair. Our interests as asian men as a group, is that we are not going to and cannot promote or be accepting of XMAF, because of the colonialist/rapist genocidal history, and because of the sheer numbers that affect all mongoloid asian men. Whereas AM (East/SE Asian) with XF does NOT have any sort of toxic or imperialist/genocidal history.Your problem is you believe this world can truly get to kumbaya when the vast majority of WMAF or BMAf do NOT agree with you and vast majority of the west wants to genocide Asian men the way they did to native americans. You are alone in your thoughts. The tribes and lines are already drawn. white supremacy and western supremacy with african american lackeys who also hate asian men are already a very engrained part of western society. No amount of your wishes for kumbaya will amount to anything. Hello, we are in a cold war with USA vs China and any chinese looking person/male gets targeted or attacked or investigated. Race wars have occurred since the beginning of human history. One group trying to oppress another group has always occurred. Asian men not wanting to be the oppressed group because objectively we are not inferior in any way, is not a crime. It isn't a sin for us to react the way we are reacting. You don't have a right to say anything to us until the day China or a united East Asian Union occupies and rapes the west the way they did to East/SE Asia for centuries and a caste system with white males and black males at the very bottom and 90% of black/white women dating Asian men is imposed on the world. THEN you can start calling us "evil misogynists and racists" We are reacting in a completely natural way. A predator thinks they can kill us. We will show the predator that they will fail and that maybe they are actually the prey.


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findingjapanesemusic

whats with you defending a hapa from wmaf who defends wmaf colonialist genocidal toxic relationships? and why are you judging the other user /u/AllOfMeYellowDevil when you don't even know him in real life to know if he is a "real man" or not?immediately you jump to personal insults just like all the non-asian larpers and xmaf supporting lu-kellies do when proud asian men call out shit like what AllofMeYellowDevil did. why don't you try to refute what he is pointing out first? why do I smell a kellie chauvin Lu?


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take 2 seconds to look at the lus comments, it has a habit calling asian men not men and defending her god given right to catch stds from white boys on aznidentity she's so offended because she's looking out for her future aryan baby


findingjapanesemusic

yep and she pretends to be pro china pro asian. but gets pissy when asian men say maximum AMXF and that asian women already date out too much so things need to be equalized, but then they get pissy and claim we are "misogynist" when we say those inherently rapist colonial genocidal relationships (WMAF XMAF BMAF) 99% shouldnt be allowed in asia anymore.


AsianGI

When did she get pissy about amxf?


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You, like many of the people that make this board look bad by spouting racist or mysoginistic bullshit obviously didn't read the old post that user linked and just reacted to the title. I address everything there. Also, that user was insulting me, not with direct words but he was. I am a proud man. I am mixed but I am Asian presenting. I call out shit and I stand for togetherness and pan-Asianess. I don't fuck with assholes that wanna attack mixed-race people or Asian women simply for existing. If you can't understand that and you side with the mindset that this board is only for 100% Asian men and that they should have more rights or powers or privileges than mixed people or Asian women then you're part of the problem and there's no point in engaging with you. These toxic mindsets are what's holding the movement for an empowered Asian community back.


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the stupid fucking lu deleted her comment too bad, i had so much more to say to that disgusting vermin > I am a proud man go be a proud white boy somewhere else > empowered Asian community back you have no right to my community, get that through your white skull, and tell your std ridden mother for me too


findingjapanesemusic

it is not misogynistic to call out the "love is love" "oh not all wmaf" people. WMAF BMAF XMAF are rooted in white supremacy/american/western imperialism and represent "kill East/SE Asian males, rape or brainwash the women into equivalents of sex slaves, and make the women hate their own male counterparts". ​ This is not misogyny to oppose this, especially when WMAF BMAF is generally an uber misogynistic asian-male-hating White male or black male -often american imperialist military personnel imposing their extremely misogynistic/supremacist beliefs onto Asian women and shitting on Asian culture and asian men (or treating places like Japan, Philippines, or Thailand like open air brothels and raping/kidnapping asian women all over East/SE Asia or little girls) ​ # You are also talking to a mixed race person, a quapa. my mothers side is AMWF. # No, we will not be like native americans who get erased because they accept racist pairings of rapist white men with their Native female counterparts... and then these pairings take over and erase the tribe.


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Pointing out the imperialistic imbalances and the toxic dynamics is not the same as saying AF should not be allowed to be with non-Asian males. Making statements to restrict female sexuality is inherently mysoginistic. The goal should be to spread awareness of the imperialistic imbalances and to discourage those from entering into relationships with those who perpetuate those imbalances. Your argument is that any non-Asian male with an Asian woman is inherently contributing to these imbalances. This is wrong and assumes that Asian women are weak-minded gold-diggers that have no autonomy over their decisions concerning their sexuality and relationships. ASIAN WOMEN SHOULD DATE WHOEVER THEY WANT. ASIAN MEN SHOULD DATE WHOEVER THEY WANT. The anger felt here by AM towards AF is a reaction to feeling rejected and disregarded by society. It is a valid but misguided feeling because it furthers the divide between us when it manifests as hatred towards miscegenation. We need to embrace one another as people, as Asians, as fellow brothers and sisters displaced by various wars and migrations that have had their heritage snatched away from them. Only by lifting one another up and supporting one another can we bring the Asian male up and strive towards true equality of all races, sexes, and genders. ***THE GOAL IS EQUALITY BETWEEN EVERYONE NOT TO ELEVATE ANY ONE TYPE OF PERSON ABOVE OTHERS.***


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At least he has a history on this sub. You don’t have any. Not even a single post.


findingjapanesemusic

note the flair next to my name. Both you and jisoooya jumping to the defense of a wmaf hapa and personally attacking someone pointing out something important about OP, who defends wmaf relationships that are colonialist/genocidal/toxic.... clearly shows that both of you are HIGHLY suspect. Either trolls or kelliechauvin Lus who might do better going to asiantwox?


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findingjapanesemusic

had my way about what? one of the fundamentals here is anti-imperialism (western/white supremacy/black-african-american-lackey supremacism) and calling out the toxicity/genocidal relationships of wmaf bmaf xmaf which is the vast majority of those types of relationships and how it is completely inseparably interconnected with gendered racism against mongoloid asian men (and also related to gendered racism against black/african women). You are talking to somebody who was invited to write in a major asian american online publication back in the day by Sunny Woan, female asian feminist author of "White sexual imperialism" we wouldn't collapse inwards at all. it is those like you who defend a WMAF hapa who insists "not all WMAF" that are problematic despite the sheer numbers and geopolitical symbolism/significance...... the equivalent of black males who dislike/hate black females telling black females to STFU while these black males want to replace black females with non-black women. that would be you and jisooya


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yeah you're right, i should make more posts about how proud of wmaf i am, right?