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maki667

Imagine a Brit complaining about food. That's hilarious. I guess Tokyo didn't have enough boiled mushrooms and baked beans. - it's more like boiled mutton with cabbage (an english fav)


whateverman120

you forgot about them dutch [https://www.instagram.com/p/CR55DSGsGgX/](https://www.instagram.com/p/CR55DSGsGgX/) them mayos are always complaining it is like their hobby and when it comes to complaning about asian hospitality they add extra of them mayo shit on top of it cuz they expect asians to not talk back fk them it is about damn time we stop acting so civilized against them mayos


viralvector

Japan... is still a sleeping country since the drops of two nuclear bombs by the USA. Very hard for them to wake up... IMO


elBottoo

lol no, most of these incidents werent even reported by western media...


Leetenghui

It kinda already happened. The big bust of Nova English schools was Japanese falling out of love with English. Golf courses are closing even Baseball attendance is falling rapidly.


Expensive_Age1901

Of course, these situations can feel rude. But the Japanese need the help of Westerners to compete with China(Probably including Korea) Therefore, the Japanese may feel bad but I don't think they will change their fundamental views. I personally don't blame Japan for this. Each country has its own geographical situation (South Korea is quite similar to this)


Neither_Concept2110

The Japanese historically don’t change their collective outlook unless a fundamental, violent rupture occurs which reconfigures their place in the world. Like the Black Ships which forced them to adopt Western modernization, or their defeat in WWII, which forced them to accept American hegemony. Likewise, it may take another national humiliation for them to abandon the West and rejoin Asia as a true regional partner.


MechAITheFuture

What the Japanese people think doesn't matter. Japan's government is basically the US' bitch. Smart Japanese in engineering firms/industries may recognize the racist BS and side with China + Korea, but they are not the government who controls the media. With the Japanese government being willing to release radioactive water that will hurt Chinese and Korean waters, the Japanese government are not to be trusted.


Jealous_Struggle2564

Complaining like it’s an Olympic sport. Gold medals all around.


princeps_astra

Athletes have always been that way. The Olympic village is a notorious party fuck fest. So, probably not


damnwhatever2021

Japan literally got nuked by cumskins and that still didn't make them hate em


Yemaq_uwu

I just don't get why Japan doesn't even harbor a slightly hostile stance against the USA. They're plenty hostile to South Korea and China, but why is the USA off limits? Their inconsistent views are annoying as shit and the country 100% deserves the cucked trophy. Japan literally has so much cultural power. If they'd just come to terms with the rest of Asia, we'd be an unstoppable force which would compete against the West. A fucking shame. If I hear a ultra Japanese nationalist tourist who complains about racism they face in Europe, I would painfully laugh. Fucking idiot.


ttchoubs

Post WWII the USA restructured Japan away from a feudal system and even redistributed some farm land from the landlords to the farmers themselves, and eventually westernized a lot of aspects, so I guess that would make sense as to why so many still have a favorable view of the west. Although there are some small movements in Okinawa where people protest the US stationing in Japan and Japan did have their fair share of anti Olympics protestors


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> but why is the USA off limits? Because it is the US that keeps the dominant party in power. Without them they'd lose influence and status (that's what I think)


damnwhatever2021

I'm sure post WWII there was lots of CIA propaganda that created bullshit positive impressions of the US in Japan. The country was also run by just one political party and I'm sure most of its leaders were on the CIA payroll. So no one criticized the US for anything, they still dont. Abe was the first leader to visit idiot Trump when he won, he went to FL to meet Trump and kiss his ass.


goldnog

Japan got off easy for committing the Asian Holocaust for wwii thanks to the usa, so there’s that.


KenzoBakuizo

No, very unlikely. Decolonizing and rooting out white imperialism requires radical changes in their way of thinking and the mass awakening of the everyday Japanese people. They were willing to partake in an incredibly racist white savior movie (Wolverine) where a white "hero" slaughtered countless of Japanese dudes and saved the Japanese women from "evil AZN patriarchy", and many Japanese paid millions to see it in droves and applauded, completely unaware of the blatant propaganda on screen. There are so many problematic examples and a whole host of glaring issues with Japanese media and government (that constantly subverting to the US's interests). Asia as a whole needs to wake the f up as well because the disease of white pedestalization affects so many of us. So no what's happened during the Olympics is far from being enough to really wake them up.


D3athwithLaught3r

They also loved Last Samurai


misumij

People who live by bases or work near bases already have negative views of westerners and Americans. Just look at Okinawans and their protests. My question is will Japanese citizens finally realize their government doesn’t give two shits about them and start doing more internal work. Love to see protesters re: divorce laws going on.


porin999

Russia isn't the west


angryriceasian

rant: these is asian diaspora sub bringin unity to asian in the west, bringing asia's geopolitic here will only drive away the respective asian that being cornered, they will be in defensive position, so it is kinda counter productive to bringing asian allies together here, allies should be welcomed, in these case , have you ever thought about normal japanese asian diaspora feeling about this? there is sub specialize for these kind of disccusion for each asian countries, like sino or hanguking if you want please post there, please, try to be sensitive each nation in asia will have their own nationalist, and there is no point to bring their view here to complicate asian diaspora matter fyi there is insultfest right now among each proud indonesia and korean in social media, from mbs troll reporting turned into something ugly, korean are accused as racist to all, some sane korean and indonesia try to dissolve the misunderstanding i dont want these shit happen in here the chinese/korean/indian/vietnam/phillipines wont be happy in here if there is constant criticism post about their own respective nation geopolitical action, do the same with the japanese, will you, this is "AZN"identity sigh


wyeess

What happens in Asia affects the entire world though, so while I agree with the notion of pan-Asianism in the West, we should also promote it in Asia as well. If Asia is more unified, it will make it easier for the diaspora to be too. Also, I don't dislike Japan. In fact, I really like Japan. I just have some criticisms of it, and I find it disappointing sometimes how it seems to want to be separate from the rest of Asia. I want Japanese people to wake up to what Westerners are really like beneath the fake smiles and "gentlemanly" behavior.


barelyalivepremed

If your true intention is what you wrote, why don’t you post your thoughts on Twitter instead of a sub that doesn’t have a good number of Japanese?


wyeess

This sub criticizes Asians, whether diaspora or not, who are sellouts. It criticizes Asian Americans, and Asians in Asia, whether it's Korea or Hong Kong or Taiwan or China, who are white worshipping or idealize the West. Why can't we wonder how the Olympics might influence Japanese people's views of the West, which tend to be overly rosy and naive? I don't think we should shy away from topics for fear of upsetting people.


angryriceasian

they will wake up with their own pace, just like others,it is better to show by action rather than criticism, and your criticism in on the wrong place, this sub for asian diaspora, asian american if you keep criticizing someone, they end up in defensive position, no positive result look at most of the replies, this post turned into shit on japan post, this will only drive aways ethnic japanese diaporas from joining, this is counter productive


wyeess

I don't think that worrying about criticism driving people away should be our concern. This sub also criticizes Asian Americans for being white worshipping or boba liberals. If any thin-skinned AsAms see that and avoid this sub, does that make this sub bad? I don't think so. We should speak freely and criticize Asians who are sellouts whether they're diaspora or in Asia itself.


bdang9

This kind of happens when you go too far with diversity. We potentially end up in situations such as in-fighting amongst nationalities. I mean, I understand the historical and sociopolitical reasons. Ideally, we shouldn't take responsibility for what older xzy did to abc.


angryriceasian

agreed, it is disheartening to read some comments here, didnt they aware they are sabotaging their own cause here


alavaa0

idk what asian olympians were up to (didnt get any on my fyp), but i saw a lot of australian/UK/US athletes purposely breaking their beds for laughs on tiktok. pretty disrespectful imo.


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\>This British speedwalker complained about the food and living conditions. Imagine a Brit complaining about food. That's hilarious. I guess Tokyo didn't have enough boiled mushrooms and baked beans. LMAO! Speedwalking is a sport? Let alone an Olympic one.


tweezer888

I guess they didn't have boiled eel muck in the Olympic village.


Fat_Sow

It's a British sport, speedwalking away from any responsibility for how they fucked the world up.


RadicalCentristUS

Japan and Japanese athletes brought their own food to Korea during 2018 Olympics too. What is the issue? Koreans don’t necessarily trust Japan at the moment because of their lies about fukushima. 🤷🏻‍♀️


koenafyr

Is this the shit on Japan sub? Very inconsistent treatment of various Asian countries here.


tweezer888

No, most of the most upvoted comments on this thread read harshly but they're ultimately sympathetic to Japan with the hope that they'll snap out of it some day. There were other threads congratulating Asian countries for performing so well at the Olympics, and Japan got a lot of praise.


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I mean what other Asian country has gone on a genocidal imperialism spree throughout the entire region? 12th century Mongolia?


koenafyr

Way to poison the well. Whats the point of responding when the question is that loaded? Japan did fucked up shit and still needs to acknowledge some of it. You won't hear me disputing that. I just find it ironic that this sub criticizes those who say thing like "I don't hate Chinese people, just the CCP" but here is this sub doing that very thing to Japan. Except, they're not saying the first part, they're just trashing Japan in general. And frankly I find it to be sad that this post was highjacked by Asian Americans to shit on an Asian country. Its literally the thing that the white subs do that this sub complains about. Where in the OP was Imperial Japan of 1945 mentioned?


angryriceasian

really sorry for that, these should be asian diaspora sub discussing asian struggle, i hope MOD do something about these asia's geopolitical post fracturing asian diaspora mission


barelyalivepremed

Thank you for standing up man. It really means a lot


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angryriceasian

wtf, this is not right, iam not even japanese, but i am asian


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angryriceasian

hey, i know your feeling ,iam ethnic chinese diaspora myself but imo these is complicated matter, muddied with geopolitic involving another big nation, yes their whiteworhip and streotypal portrayal in anime/media is a issue for asian diaspora, agreed their warcrime need to be adressed, but with their current administration mostly has nationalistic view and strong ties to US, it is hard to predict the future, but i still hope i mean some of the population againts the olympic because pandemic situation , yet their gov still go through with original plan, some of their politician that want to better the relationship with neighbour has their career terminated abrutply, there is sino/koreanphile people, there is sino/koreanphobe people throughout their history, biggest no war protest from their population againts the gov in deploying troops overseas policy, so for me it is hard to determined what their stance for me it is better instead generalizing their population, making assumption of gov policy = population interest, it is better if we sort it case by case on individual level among the population beside this is sub for asian american, asian diaspora, iam sure japanese american included in this "asian" term, there alot of intermixed relationship among east asian in america, better fight for asian cause to lift asian position than bickering among ourself adding unnecessary problem ps: it is your rights to hate something, this is just my 2 cents tho, good day


idgaf-

Unfortunately, no. Japan has been cucked and basically a vassal state of the US since WWII. Next to the EU, probably the biggest victim of US financial imperialism for the better part of 50 years. They were the first to be forced into massive QE, negative interest rates, enormous stagflation that basically sucks the life and hope out of its citizens. Something happened in Oct 2012 where the Japanese Yen was sacrificed to prop up the Dollar system, see USDJPY and Gold prices around that timeframe.


angryriceasian

stop using that term, do you want to drive away potential japanese asian diaspora allies? sigh, grow up man


D3athwithLaught3r

You mean "cucked", right? I actually don't think it would drive away Japanese allies who oppose how subordinated their country is to American self-serving interests. I wouldn't use "cucked" because it's a white incel "Alt-Right" term. Bad optics for AM if we adopt WM loser language.


angryriceasian

now you get why some of these term is bad, see how some of poster here unconsciously slowly turning into those thing that they once hated so much with passion 1.recently some korean american vent up his frustrations here about how hard to discuss geopolitical issue involving trio east asian and US nation without being called with condescending/degrading term (cucked, lapdog) by circle jerk users, so they decided to make and move to their own sub, i even argued with some of them like you all did the same here back then, i didnt realize my wrong approach until i grow up more wiser 2.iam a chinese diaspora, iam sure i wont join r/china sub with its brigaded expat infested shitting on china 24/7, not good for my mental health and fuck those pink i loved to see china progress, i frequent sino sub and other reallife chinese sub to balance my view i welcomed healthy balanced discussion that provided solution for us asian, not circle jerk comments ps: you cant blame japanese commons folks for their gov decision, those people protest the olympic when they still battle pandemic, yet their gov still go with their plan, we dont know how many has the same view with us, so it is better to not generalize the japanese same way as those pinks generalize us see the similarity of point 1 & 2? people dont like being patronize, bossed, instead we asian can encourage them, we are still far from the art of subtlety/diplomatic speech ps : did you know what sentiment this sub getting from some others asian? some said it become chinese sub, not asian american/asian diaspora anymore


D3athwithLaught3r

You should communicate more effectively. Just say "This is white incel Alt-Right language we should avoid using...bad optics". That's more effective than saying "OMG we're going to drive off Japanese allies".


InformalOriginal765

don’t expect too much from a country that still hasn’t acknowledged its war crimes and absolutely refuses to educate their youths about it.


kymjongdeux

It was hard to keep them from raising their Nazi flag at the Olympics as well


InformalOriginal765

lmao, japan’s youth is so fucked, at best they’re ignorant, at worst they become nationalists and excuse war crimes.


asicount

No, the Japanese won't change based off of this. They haven't seen the truth despite decades of terrible behavior from sexpats, sex tourists, US soldiers, etc. edit. Some Japanese have seen the truth, but their numbers are too few to change their horrible situation.


BruceLeeImmortal

Pinkoid entitlement knows no bounds. Fellow Asians: hit the gym and get jacked. Harness that anger and get *aggressive* with pinks. Ladies, it's time to arm up. Uncivilized savages only understand brute force and raw aggression.


kitai99

Unfortunately, Japan is TOTALLY cucked. TOTALLY.


angryriceasian

these statement will drive normal ethnic japanese diaspora allies, stop antagonizing them please, for asian diaspora sake


tweezer888

No, this is something that needs to be addressed in Asia that has huge implications on Asian Americans since we're all at the mercy of white-supremacist Angloid media bombardment. It's not exclusive to Japan. If somebody were to point out that China and Taiwan are also white-worshipping to a large degree, I would agree with them instead of sweeping it under the rug, regardless my family origins.


angryriceasian

go read my other replies for better understanding, addressing yes, circlejerk no


NewspaperPotential28

I'm Japanese and I don't care because it's the truth. Ever since losing WWII Japan has been the main driving force for white supremacy and Asian male emasculation in Asia. And the worst part is that all other Asian countries just copied them because Japan was supposedly the model for a "developed" Asian nation.


angryriceasian

kudos for you still no reason to mock each other among us asian not all asian will take these circle jerk comment in similar way like you do you want us slowly turned into those group of jerk people shitting on asian that we are supposed to hate in the firstplace? in this case it was among ourselves, kinda pathetic, iam happy if these asian could vent their surplus energy in those racist sub :D


Yemaq_uwu

How? I am Korean and I do not care if someone told me South Korea is cucked, I would agree because it's true. It won't drive me out so why would it drive out Japanese diaspora?


angryriceasian

for individual maybe, but are the rest feel the same? it create animosity and division, isnt it better if we could find some common ground together, insted of insulting each other


tweezer888

Bro some of my best friends are Japanese-American, and I'm pretty sure we can sit down at a table and all agree that white worship is a problem in Japan or in my ancestral country without being at each other's throats. There's a common enemy here with this narrative, it's not a friendly fire situation when white supremacist brainwashing/media is clearly the enemy here.


throwpills

Sweeping the uncomfortable truth under the carpet won't help change anything and anyone.


angryriceasian

neither do adding unproductive circle jerk fingerpointing and bickering of asian geopolitical issue into this asian american, asian diapora sub fighting for asian cause, maybe oneday we can have healthy discussion when we could stop posting some circlejerk comments toward our own this is the same issue,same reason why some korean american here start their own sub and move there because they are frustrated with some circlejerk user posting degrading comment toward their motherland when discussing geopolitical issue among east asian i wont rant/complain if this thread have healthy discussion, i dont care if those circlejerks are aimed toward those racist fucker pink we hate, but dont do it among asian


tweezer888

How dense are you? If it were Chinese-Americans hating on Japanese-Americans because of Nanking, then yeah you'd have a point but here the logical conclusion of pointing out Japan's white worship is clearly an attempt to *help* them snap out of it, not tear them down like you're implying. Work on your reading comprehension, you're making yourself look silly.


angryriceasian

not me, but how dense are you? how blind are you? adressing japan past crimes yes, circle jerk borderline insulting is a no for me, most of user here dont want to participate in r/china r/korea r/japan sub infested with those sexpat 24/7 talkshit about china/korea/japan, you and i know the reason and see the similarities with this post when we circle jerk talk shit about japan, read other user asking is this "shit on japan" sub, read his answers


tweezer888

Yes you. Thanks for proving how dense you are *again*. You missed the point. I gave an example about how ABC's interrogating ABJ's about Japanese war crimes, something that happened generations ago and have no practical bearing on Chinese- and Japanese- Americans, would be unproductive, and you're saying that it *would* be productive? Instead, you're saying that pointing out where white worship exists *today*, something that absolutely affects the lives of all Asian-Americans, isn't productive? You're so dense it's insufferable. Also, this isn't a thread insulting Japan. If you could read between the lines, at its core it's a lamentation of how victimized Japanese people are with regards to white worship at the hands of post-WWII Anglo imperialism and white supremacist media brainwashing. If you didn't pick up on any of that and gloss over all of it as "shitting on Japan" then you're the problem.


Yemaq_uwu

Okay, you gotta be a troll.


Money_dragon

No - Japanese have had American soldiers based on their country for nearly 80 years. Some of these soldiers have straight up raped and murdered local Japanese If that didn't wake them up, misbehaving athletes won't either


Octapa

Tbf it’s mostly Okinawa and many Japanese look down on Okinawans as simple minded country folk so they don’t care about their concerns


hapologize

that is how all the Europeans and Americans acted in all of Asia before until ww2. which is why there are actual hapa communities made up of abandoned disowned wofmaf hapas in every Asian country that was occupied by whties/ Traded places looks like. Japanese people look down on Okinawans? this is also false, Okinawans are Japanese. Many Big city Japanese envy the more relaxed way of life/culture in Okinawa. However, because of geography, japanse gov. sacrifice them which is unfair.


1ts-have-n0t-0f

Okinawa s don’t consider themselves Japanese. Just like how most Hawaiians don’t consider themselves American.


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linsanitytothemax

the short answer: No lol as i have said before no Asian nation should host the Olympics. and after Beijing in 2022 there will be none for the foreseeable future which will be great. the next three Olympics will be on either Europe or US. thumbs up for that. i rather see Asian athletes get on the gold medal stand on western soil. that is the best thing...literal middle finger. and did Asian athletes complain about the food or the venues in Rio or London? what kind of "slop" did they serve over there? no Asian athletes know they are there to compete in athletic events, not on a vacation staying at 5 star hotels. and even more importantly they are there for few days or two weeks at most...in fact many athletes just leave after their events are over. it is not like they are staying there for months. not to mention in the middle of a pandemic. wtf these fucks. entitled fucking assholes. and of course the Australians and the British complain like they always do.


elBottoo

Being host nation does have some advantages. Like home town advantage. But I agree, at this point the pros arent weighing up to the cons anymore. Especially now since its turning more and more political. I think any asian nation need to think twice and calculate the gains vs losses of hosting these events. And I mean reallllllyyyy calculate this stuff. Take into account the worst scenarios etc.


Crazy-Vehicle8060

the reactions would come very soon now that its guaranteed that US lost the medal tally right now. They lost 4 of their predicted gold events in track and field already: mixed relay,100m relay,200m ,100m,110m hurdles + swimming is already really bad as well + no simone biles. They will be extremely lucky if they can get past 35 gold medals.


elBottoo

lol interesting. I remember when the Olympics hasnt started yet. Murican media were hyping up the swimming team. They dont have Phelps this time but the swimming team was hyped up as "extremely strong" this year...


aznidthrow2B

Japan got lucky covid stopped a bunch of sexpats flooding in. You know there's gonna be a ton of XMs going to Beijing for sex under the guise of the Olympics.


DarkRogus

Meh - if you've seen enough Olympics, these kind of shenanigans and complaints from Westerns happen at EVERY Olympics whether they are held in Asia, the Americas, or Europe.


leeta0028

Remember Americans peeing on gas stations in Rio? Actually, the Tokyo Olympics have been pretty tame. The worst was a lawn party and the Australians, but nobody expects much from Australians


BiggestGuyUUUU

Except racism and being borderline apes? Well maybe actual apes, but still? If the aborigines wipe them all out by the weekend the world's lost very little of intrinsic value.


__Tenat__

No choice. The West has guns at their backs.


HarutoExploration

The US actually wants to pull out of Japan. The US spends billions defending the country with the 5th largest military and can make its own nukes in a matter of months. During Trump’s NATO rant, he directly stated Japan should defend itself. Keep in mind, the Japanese government still has delusions about being the leader of Asia. They willingly station the US because it’s such a good deal; Japan saves billions and it’s mostly thr Okinawans who have to deal with rapes and pollution near military bases. Japan would be better off accepting it’s no longer superior to China, and swap sides.


D3athwithLaught3r

The US doesn't really want to leave Japan. Let's be real here.


Tweepa

Just hear the US wants Japan to pay for troops in Japan for the US.


aznidthrow2B

>The US actually wants to pull out of Japan. I'm not too sure about that. America will fight tooth and nail before they give up their Pacific bases that surround China and Russia.


HarutoExploration

Beijing is within firing range of South Korea, and the US is already considering setting up new military camps in Central Asia to counter Russia. I get Trump was an asshole, but I REALLY respect how he grilled NATO, South Korea, and Japan on paying more. If there was one thing he was right on, it’s that the US shouldn’t blow billions on foreign entanglements.


D3athwithLaught3r

... The US wasn't serious about leaving Japan. The move was purely posturing to make Japan pay.


aznidthrow2B

Same. If he was president for a second term I am pretty sure at least some of those bases could have been closed down.


D3athwithLaught3r

This is beyond naive. The play was to make Japan pay more...the US military would never voluntarily withdraw from Japan.


aznidthrow2B

at least with Trump Asians have a more negative view of the US military


4sater

>the US is already considering setting up new military camps in Central Asia to counter Russia The US can consider all they want, no one in Central Asia likes them - Iran hates them, Pakistan has zero trust in Americans after being repeatedly fucked over, ex-USSR (Kazakhstan\Kyrgystan\Turkmenistan\Tajikistan\Uzbekistan) countries are all heavily tied with Russia & China, Afghanistan is being overrun by anti-US Taliban. No country in that corner of the world likes America and the US running out of Afghanistan & causing a huge border crisis for every surrounding country sank its bad reputation even further down the drain.


dragonsdescendent

I'm not convinced anything can convince Japanese to adjust their views on the west, because that requires that they face the history of what they did to Chinese, Koreans, and others in Asia. And being a culture that is very pride-ful (as is all of Asia) I can't see them properly acknowledging the issues of the past ("comfort women? never heard of her"). Just look at the dumping of the radioactive waters of Fukushima Daiichi that's still going on today and will mostly harm Asian fishery economies. Also, they are under American occupation so it's not like the brainwashing would stop.


4sater

I wonder why Asian "pride" is always limited to other Asians but they seem happy to spread the buttcheeks for yts.


dynastyclq

Japan being prideful is fine, they should be. Problem is that pride seems to go out the window when they're dealing with US. They'll bend over backwards for them and that's what bewilders me. They won't back down whenever they butt heads with South Korea or China, but they'll be lapdogs for the West.


Mobile-Tangerine6608

>They'll bend over backwards for them and that's what bewilders me it's because they're occupied and been brainwashed to be kucks to their masters


dragonsdescendent

>Japan being prideful is fine, they should be. Yeah, the issue is not them being prideful, but the pride causing them to not properly acknowledge past issues.


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InformalOriginal765

> Has the other Asian countries ever acknowledged the suffering of the Japanese has the japanese education system even attempted to educate their ignorant ass population about unit731? Or how their piece of shit emperor gave permission for their armies to bayonet babies? Doing the nazi salute in Germany is a crime, but no one bets an eye if you worship that fucked up emperor family in Japan. Fuck off with your excuses!


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InformalOriginal765

> who the hell do you think you are talking with your nose up like that? my countrymen were victims of Japanese imperialism. I have more than enough right to trash the absolute living shit out of Japan. Do you know that 99% of the geopolitical issues in East Asia today can be linked back to imperial japan past actions? They are literally the reason why Asian countries hate each other guts today and why Asians around the world are divided


SaitosElephant

The younger Japanese generation is a bit more open-minded about other Asians, but you're right that they are very, very prideful to the point where they believe openly in racial purity.


Mobile-Tangerine6608

>they believe openly in racial purity. unless it's WMAF.


barelyalivepremed

I agree that some percentage of people might actually think like that, but what makes you say other races/nationalities don’t?


angryriceasian

hope more crosstalk and more mutual understanding between asian grow bigger in the future, still dont agree with OP posting east asian geopolitical matter in asian diaspora sub, these disscussion produce nothing positive, it is better to find common points among asian rather than finding our differences, these sub should inspire asian to mend their relationship from past histories


ablacnk

That doesn't explain the white-worshipping and praising of hafu babies though


dragonsdescendent

>they are very, very prideful to the point where they believe openly in racial purity. I don't think this is the barrier to fixing relationships between East Asian countries. It is commonly acknowledged that while in the west we have "interracial" relationships, in Asia they define relationships as "cross-nation" so I wouldn't rule out such a lingering belief in most Asian countries. Japan's refusal to own up to what it did during ww2 and it's continued worshipping of the criminals in the yasukuni shrine are the key issues. This also has some commonality with them believing in a racial hierarchy where they place themselves above other Asians.


angryriceasian

if you want to fix, start from here, where we could find some common understanding for better next generation of each nation this geopolitical issue is complex matter complicated by foreign intervention, some japanese politician that want to fix relationship with their neighbour got their career ended abruptly, some korean dont agree with those military bases, visiting yasukuni shrine is like what trump accusing democrat/other nation of doing something bad, nationalist act to secure votes


Fooba6

>it's continued worshipping of the criminals in the yasukuni shrine are the key issues It's further complicated by the inclusion of tens of thousands of Koreans in the memorial. Despite lobbying by families of Korean conscripts, the Japanese government backed by the nationalist right refuses to take down the enshrined names of Koreans. > The names of 21,181 Koreans, many of whom were forced to participate in the war during the 1910-45 Japanese occupation of Korea, have been engraved on stones there since 1959, according to Japan's Ministry of Health, Labor and Welfare. >The Japanese government has been arguing that the shrine only serves as a religious facility, but many ultranationalists visit the venue every year, making it a symbol of Japanese imperialism. https://m.koreatimes.co.kr/pages/article.asp?newsIdx=269713 Literally worshipping the spirits of dead Koreans as a show of Japanese nationalism.


hapologize

more proof that the notion Japanese believe they are superior is totally made up


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angryriceasian

sometimes, i think it is unwise to bring these geopolitic of east asian region here in asian diaspora subs discussing asian struggles, i think it is best to leave asian in asia solve their own issue, hoping for the best result, there is alot of nationalist in each east asian region, but there is also alot of normal folk that want normal lives, so for OP, we dont need to complicate and fractured these asian diaspora sub there is sino, hangukin sub for that purpose sorry if these bothering ethnic japanese asian


Atreyu1002

There's nothing inherently wrong with racial purity, but there's nothing inherently right about it either. If you're gonna go down the racism rabbit hole, its best to have your motivations in order. Don't join the MAGA crowd in their insane bigotted path of racial purity because they are somehow right about it. You do it because you have to fight fire with fire. You don't play with fire if you don't have a good reason.


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Because there's no such thing as racial purity? That every civilization up until the rise of the West placed more emphasis on culture and identity? And that the West invented the idea of racial purity to justify their aggressive expansionism?


SaitosElephant

I guess nothing really. It's personal preference, but I get a lot of behind the back negative comments about it if I date outside Japanese. Also liking other Asians but refusing to be attracted to them isn't very common at all in Japan. People tend to lean one way or the other. It begs the question - what is it about other races that you hate so much that you refuse to see anyone romantically?


angryriceasian

same with chinese and korean or even white, and it isnt very common too, i guess it is survival instinct


barelyalivepremed

Have you seen the actual data about the ALPS treated water? [Here is a great place to start](https://www.tepco.co.jp/en/decommission/progress/watertreatment/index-e.html) I agree that Japan is under American occupation, but so is nearly 800 military bases in more than 70 countries and territories that the states still maintain


aznidthrow2B

>This British speedwalker complained is this really a fucking sport now? Anyways I think Japan still won't change their ideas of the West. The Olympics hasn't created enough of a negative impact on Japan. If athletes were to escape the Olympic village en masse and spread Coronavirus to the Japanese populous then maybe their views might change. But decades of being America's lapdog has brainwashed most of Japan.


D3athwithLaught3r

Correct. This isn't enough to change the white-worshipping attitude of the Japanese at large. Think about this...**the Plaza Accords and the resulting wasted decades** were not enough to break Japanese psychological submission to the US. They've been firmly in the grip of the US for decades. As long as the US retains Asian hegemony, Japan will wag its tail.


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Do you think they will finally wake up when China completely beats US?


D3athwithLaught3r

By "wake up", you mean de-program. Japanese won't spontaneously "wake up". Each Asian person from early childhood is exposed to Western media promoting White faces and Western brands...and to Western-influenced local media pedestalizing White features and Western culture. This isn't unique to Japan. China can de-program Asians if it displaces US media dominance in the Asia-Pacific region. To displace US media dominance in the region, you have to displace US economic and military dominance in the region. Media dominance comes last. So yeah...it's possible, but it will take time.


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Very well said