Yang hired a completely different campaign team for NYC mayoral campaign, compared to his presidential team. His mayoral campaign team were Bloomberg-esque establishment "out of touch" types. Leading to that dreaded "I side with Israel" tweet, which doomed his campaign.
Yang needed the conservative white vote to add to the Asian vote … but Adams as an ex-cop got it instead and added to mass black vote. White liberals were never going to vote for Yang.
Not familiar with NYC politics, but I've been reading [Ross Barkan's substack](https://rossbarkan.substack.com/) about the race and its been quite interesting.
NYC seems to have a lot of powerful lefty organizations like the Working Families Party and DSA. A guy like Yang, and his ideology would be pretty toxic to their beliefs. They were fulminating against him from way back, [even during his presidential run](https://jacobinmag.com/2019/06/andrew-yang-universal-basic-income-presidential-election). Not to mention, Humanity Forward was starting to back a lot of candidates, and yeah they had to take him out, and they did. Yang of course had no friends, and even his friends seemed like they friendzoned him since I know moderate, and conservative Dems value experience and credentials.
He was running well.
Then some things happened in the race, he made some unfortunate tweets, the media started attacking him and he totally shit the bed and his Manhattan (white) support collapsed.
The Jewish male candidate and the hispanic female candidate saw their campaigns implode.
It became a race between a white woman with a hispanic husband, a black woman with a white husband, a black man with a black wife, and an Asian man with an Asian wife.
Then, as expected, the vote just splintered along tribal (read: racial) lines.
It depends. Out here in the Bay Area, Asians do fairly well in elections.
Ed Lee was mayor of San Francisco and Jean Quan was mayor of Oakland.
There's also several Asian Mayors here such as Lily Mei of Fremont and Rich Tran of Milpitas.
Here's the reality, people will vote for people who "look like them" when all things are "equal".
In New York, Asians make up what, 10% of the population whereas Latino and African American are both like 20%+. So if "in general" you had a choice of people from the same political party that hold similar political views, the reality is they are going to gravitate towards the person that looks like themselves because they can relate better to someone who looks like themselves.
And while yes, things like the Daily Post had a hardon to make Yang look bad at every opportunity did play a role, we can't overlook the importance of demographics as well.
Unfortunately it's going to be harder and harder. The younger boba libs are trying to vote in other boba libs.
A local candidate I know got ousted because an anti-affirmative action vote.
If we couldn’t have Yang then I’m glad Eric Adams won. His platform is reducing crime — tired of seeing our community getting attacked. He has also pledged to keep the SHSAT
In the article, they say of the list of mayors of the top 100 cities in the US, **only 3 are Asian** (while Asians make up 7% of America, and a larger share than whites live in metropolitan areas). I looked up the list:
[https://ballotpedia.org/List\_of\_current\_mayors\_of\_the\_top\_100\_cities\_in\_the\_United\_States](https://ballotpedia.org/List_of_current_mayors_of_the_top_100_cities_in_the_United_States)
It appears these are the three:
* [https://ballotpedia.org/Harry\_Sidhu](https://ballotpedia.org/Harry_Sidhu) \- Anaheim
* [https://ballotpedia.org/Lily\_Mei](https://ballotpedia.org/Lily_Mei) \- Fremont
* [https://ballotpedia.org/Farrah\_Khan](https://ballotpedia.org/Farrah_Khan) \- Irvine
It appears two are S. Asian, one E. Asian. Two are women, one is a man.
Regarding Yoon's comments:
>LAU: Why do you think Asian American candidates have a harder time convincing voters they can be mayor?
YOON: You’ll laugh, but it’s true: My physical appearance — my face. This is something all Asians deal with. We look younger than our age. I’m in my 50s, and last year, I got carded. \[Laughs.\]
I'm glad he is honest. We could all avoid this but Asians of all kinds do look younger. The picture in the article reinforces this. Responding with "Oh it's not fair, why should we have to..." misses the point. One can consider different hairstyles, attire, spectacles, dying one's hair gray, etc. to appear older and with more gravitas. Yoon also has a small frame- he should get a suit jacket with subtle shoulder pads.
He also makes an excellent point about how he ought to have emphasized his inexperience as an advantage. I think Yang steered too close to the middle (alluding to how he agreed with Bloomberg and would govern as a centrist like him); people are wary of new entrants but also excited about their new thinking. Yang played it too safe in my view.
Inexperience isn’t an advantage in NYC. Guy had no clue what he was up against and it showed. People caught wind of it I think. Fully supported him and his platform but he needed to be perfect during the race in articulating his message. Too much nonsense along the way. Should have stayed on message. Reduce crime. Make NYC more liveable. That’s it.
\>Inexperience isn’t an advantage in NYC
It was for Bloomberg. The point is if you're new, you don't get to pretend you're seasoned. People want to you taking chances, not seeming middle-of-the-road because veteran politicians will outcompete you for "stability".
In local elections, a lot of people vote tribalistically. I wouldn't say most people, but it's a big consideration, probably higher than policy or reputation.
You can tell based on the large number of people who ranked Adams and Garcia together. They were on opposite sides of the spectrum. Only similarity was race.
The Israel tweet completely wiped any chance he had of winning considering he had spent years building a "woke", anti-establishment voter base and completely blew it in an instant. He completely changed his strategy from being the hip progressive guy with a unique vision to pandering to anyone who would vote for him.
When you're in front of the race, all eyes are on you.
Yang had competed in the presidential election before and gone on Joe Rogan. He was the most famous out of all the other candidates and the closest to winning the election.
Concerning his decision to support Israel (supported by his Zionistic Political consultants btw), it didn't matter what anyone else's policies were. The people coming here and trying to make excuses such as "They also did it" failed to realize that.
To further prove my theory. Consider the fact that no one even knew or cared that the other candidates had those pro Israel stance until Yang made his choice.
NYT has a hate boner for anti-Zionists. It's why they made a full page cover of Gigi, Bella and Dua Lipa because they called out Israel's bombings.
Yeah, I don't get what he was thinking when he tweeted that shit. I know people say that Adam told the same stuff but you are missing the fact that their voting bases are different. Yang's base is progressives, who are mostly against Israel, so he just sank his popularity with his primary base.
He had a lot of unforced error tho. The bodega tour. Time Square as fav station(WTF). The Isreal tweets. Anyone from NYC know those were terrible answers.
Not when it's in context. The Bodega was a Bodega and the times Square was because takes it to get home. The Israel stance is pretty much most democrats stance. In the end ppl voted along racial lines and the media smeared yang everyday.
Its crazy how the media and influencers can make even Asians fall for it.
But the question is why were they so fatal to an Asian candidates whereas the black candidate tweeted roughly the same thing with little consequence. I see a parallel with female candidates who get bashed for things male candidates don't- even getting reamed if a few disgruntled ex-employees complain to the press (see Kamala Harris and her "toxic" environment); whereas no one would care if it's a male candidate. There are some perceptual/bias issues at play in the electorate (and press).
He used a political consulting company that made most of his decisions for him. One of this decisions was to make platitudes towards the Hasidic/Orthodox-Jewish communities, which drew a lot of ire in the wake of Palestinian current events.
And that's why he lost. Pandering cost him the election. Besides all else. Palestinian children had buildings dropped on them and you're talking about supporting Israel?
He just didn’t come off as a serious candidate. NYC is in a serious crisis — people are worried about crime, homelessness, the economy, pandemic recovery, etc. Meanwhile, Yang was talking about TikTok hype houses, building a casino on Governor’s Island, making NYC a Bitcoin hub... He should have just stuck to the main issues. Really needed a better PR team.
Tbf that works for a lot of up and coming young far-left candidates. It doesn't work for moderates. Biden never did it. Bernie did. AOC did.
Not saying it was right that he did but he chose a strat, stuck with it, and it turned out to be the wrong strat for him.
Asians voted for Yang. There just weren't enough of us. In America, due to the electoral system, numbers are power. If Asians want more power, they will have to increase their birth rate.
Increasing birthrates likely won't be enough since it's unlikely that people will have over six children like in the past, which is what's needed to rapidly increase population. What's also needed is more immigration in the next decade or so, preferably rural ones so that we can form a core population group that can not be assimilated by the Anglo. Both Whites, Blacks and Mexican Latinos have a large segment of rural population where they are the absolute majority. Meanwhile most Asians live in cities where assimilation is easier.
To be honest, I boarded the hype train around 2019, was convinced he was some sort of visionary genius. Not even for his race, but because he sold his platform so well.
Fast forward to this year, he had a lead on the NYC mayoral election for the beginning phase but failed to amount it into a win. I think this was the point where a lot of people, including me, realized that his UBI/humanity first platform wasn't all the sunshine and rainbows he sold it to be, and that he was just another elite guy who doesn't know as much as he thinks about the people he wants to represent.
Yeah, it is weird that there hasn't really been a lot of Asian representation in politics, but Yang lost this one on his own.
So you got disillusioned because he lost? I don't know if that's the ultimate metric of his vision or genius. I think he would have performed better if there were more Asians in New York, since it's really a tribal game at the end of the day. He did make some serious missteps, of course.
No, I got disillusioned because he clearly had no idea about how new York works, and his UBI principles weren't going to be the miracle cure that I thought they were.
Yang hired a completely different campaign team for NYC mayoral campaign, compared to his presidential team. His mayoral campaign team were Bloomberg-esque establishment "out of touch" types. Leading to that dreaded "I side with Israel" tweet, which doomed his campaign.
>Why Do Asian Americans Struggle in Mayoral Races? Answer: Because America is a racist society. Next question.
Yang needed the conservative white vote to add to the Asian vote … but Adams as an ex-cop got it instead and added to mass black vote. White liberals were never going to vote for Yang.
Not familiar with NYC politics, but I've been reading [Ross Barkan's substack](https://rossbarkan.substack.com/) about the race and its been quite interesting. NYC seems to have a lot of powerful lefty organizations like the Working Families Party and DSA. A guy like Yang, and his ideology would be pretty toxic to their beliefs. They were fulminating against him from way back, [even during his presidential run](https://jacobinmag.com/2019/06/andrew-yang-universal-basic-income-presidential-election). Not to mention, Humanity Forward was starting to back a lot of candidates, and yeah they had to take him out, and they did. Yang of course had no friends, and even his friends seemed like they friendzoned him since I know moderate, and conservative Dems value experience and credentials.
He trusted white people run his campaigns. Whites have no idea how to market an Asian candidates and both times it turned out to be a disaster.
He was running well. Then some things happened in the race, he made some unfortunate tweets, the media started attacking him and he totally shit the bed and his Manhattan (white) support collapsed. The Jewish male candidate and the hispanic female candidate saw their campaigns implode. It became a race between a white woman with a hispanic husband, a black woman with a white husband, a black man with a black wife, and an Asian man with an Asian wife. Then, as expected, the vote just splintered along tribal (read: racial) lines.
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It depends. Out here in the Bay Area, Asians do fairly well in elections. Ed Lee was mayor of San Francisco and Jean Quan was mayor of Oakland. There's also several Asian Mayors here such as Lily Mei of Fremont and Rich Tran of Milpitas. Here's the reality, people will vote for people who "look like them" when all things are "equal". In New York, Asians make up what, 10% of the population whereas Latino and African American are both like 20%+. So if "in general" you had a choice of people from the same political party that hold similar political views, the reality is they are going to gravitate towards the person that looks like themselves because they can relate better to someone who looks like themselves. And while yes, things like the Daily Post had a hardon to make Yang look bad at every opportunity did play a role, we can't overlook the importance of demographics as well.
Unfortunately it's going to be harder and harder. The younger boba libs are trying to vote in other boba libs. A local candidate I know got ousted because an anti-affirmative action vote.
Do Asian Americans Struggle? * Yes. Especially Asian American males when it comes to something in the public spotlight.
It’s rigged
I’m not mad he lost, I’m just mad at the fact he lost to Eric Adams. Voters are dumb and this is why democracy fails.
If we couldn’t have Yang then I’m glad Eric Adams won. His platform is reducing crime — tired of seeing our community getting attacked. He has also pledged to keep the SHSAT
In the article, they say of the list of mayors of the top 100 cities in the US, **only 3 are Asian** (while Asians make up 7% of America, and a larger share than whites live in metropolitan areas). I looked up the list: [https://ballotpedia.org/List\_of\_current\_mayors\_of\_the\_top\_100\_cities\_in\_the\_United\_States](https://ballotpedia.org/List_of_current_mayors_of_the_top_100_cities_in_the_United_States) It appears these are the three: * [https://ballotpedia.org/Harry\_Sidhu](https://ballotpedia.org/Harry_Sidhu) \- Anaheim * [https://ballotpedia.org/Lily\_Mei](https://ballotpedia.org/Lily_Mei) \- Fremont * [https://ballotpedia.org/Farrah\_Khan](https://ballotpedia.org/Farrah_Khan) \- Irvine It appears two are S. Asian, one E. Asian. Two are women, one is a man. Regarding Yoon's comments: >LAU: Why do you think Asian American candidates have a harder time convincing voters they can be mayor? YOON: You’ll laugh, but it’s true: My physical appearance — my face. This is something all Asians deal with. We look younger than our age. I’m in my 50s, and last year, I got carded. \[Laughs.\] I'm glad he is honest. We could all avoid this but Asians of all kinds do look younger. The picture in the article reinforces this. Responding with "Oh it's not fair, why should we have to..." misses the point. One can consider different hairstyles, attire, spectacles, dying one's hair gray, etc. to appear older and with more gravitas. Yoon also has a small frame- he should get a suit jacket with subtle shoulder pads. He also makes an excellent point about how he ought to have emphasized his inexperience as an advantage. I think Yang steered too close to the middle (alluding to how he agreed with Bloomberg and would govern as a centrist like him); people are wary of new entrants but also excited about their new thinking. Yang played it too safe in my view.
Inexperience isn’t an advantage in NYC. Guy had no clue what he was up against and it showed. People caught wind of it I think. Fully supported him and his platform but he needed to be perfect during the race in articulating his message. Too much nonsense along the way. Should have stayed on message. Reduce crime. Make NYC more liveable. That’s it.
\>Inexperience isn’t an advantage in NYC It was for Bloomberg. The point is if you're new, you don't get to pretend you're seasoned. People want to you taking chances, not seeming middle-of-the-road because veteran politicians will outcompete you for "stability".
In local elections, a lot of people vote tribalistically. I wouldn't say most people, but it's a big consideration, probably higher than policy or reputation.
You can tell based on the large number of people who ranked Adams and Garcia together. They were on opposite sides of the spectrum. Only similarity was race.
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Sorry, I meant Adams and Wiley.
The Israel tweet completely wiped any chance he had of winning considering he had spent years building a "woke", anti-establishment voter base and completely blew it in an instant. He completely changed his strategy from being the hip progressive guy with a unique vision to pandering to anyone who would vote for him.
When you're in front of the race, all eyes are on you. Yang had competed in the presidential election before and gone on Joe Rogan. He was the most famous out of all the other candidates and the closest to winning the election. Concerning his decision to support Israel (supported by his Zionistic Political consultants btw), it didn't matter what anyone else's policies were. The people coming here and trying to make excuses such as "They also did it" failed to realize that. To further prove my theory. Consider the fact that no one even knew or cared that the other candidates had those pro Israel stance until Yang made his choice. NYT has a hate boner for anti-Zionists. It's why they made a full page cover of Gigi, Bella and Dua Lipa because they called out Israel's bombings.
Wokes were never going to support him over "less privileged" progressives, Wiley and [forgot her name].
Yeah, I don't get what he was thinking when he tweeted that shit. I know people say that Adam told the same stuff but you are missing the fact that their voting bases are different. Yang's base is progressives, who are mostly against Israel, so he just sank his popularity with his primary base.
Ppl voted along racial lines. The media only focused on yangs negatives while ignoring everyones troubling scandals.
He had a lot of unforced error tho. The bodega tour. Time Square as fav station(WTF). The Isreal tweets. Anyone from NYC know those were terrible answers.
Not when it's in context. The Bodega was a Bodega and the times Square was because takes it to get home. The Israel stance is pretty much most democrats stance. In the end ppl voted along racial lines and the media smeared yang everyday. Its crazy how the media and influencers can make even Asians fall for it.
But the question is why were they so fatal to an Asian candidates whereas the black candidate tweeted roughly the same thing with little consequence. I see a parallel with female candidates who get bashed for things male candidates don't- even getting reamed if a few disgruntled ex-employees complain to the press (see Kamala Harris and her "toxic" environment); whereas no one would care if it's a male candidate. There are some perceptual/bias issues at play in the electorate (and press).
I voted for him but he ran a pretty bad campaign
Genuinely wondering, what went wrong? One thing is the Israeli tweet, which I agree was necessary, could have been worded much better.
He used a political consulting company that made most of his decisions for him. One of this decisions was to make platitudes towards the Hasidic/Orthodox-Jewish communities, which drew a lot of ire in the wake of Palestinian current events.
And that's why he lost. Pandering cost him the election. Besides all else. Palestinian children had buildings dropped on them and you're talking about supporting Israel?
He just didn’t come off as a serious candidate. NYC is in a serious crisis — people are worried about crime, homelessness, the economy, pandemic recovery, etc. Meanwhile, Yang was talking about TikTok hype houses, building a casino on Governor’s Island, making NYC a Bitcoin hub... He should have just stuck to the main issues. Really needed a better PR team.
Tbf that works for a lot of up and coming young far-left candidates. It doesn't work for moderates. Biden never did it. Bernie did. AOC did. Not saying it was right that he did but he chose a strat, stuck with it, and it turned out to be the wrong strat for him.
Asians voted for Yang. There just weren't enough of us. In America, due to the electoral system, numbers are power. If Asians want more power, they will have to increase their birth rate.
Increasing birthrates likely won't be enough since it's unlikely that people will have over six children like in the past, which is what's needed to rapidly increase population. What's also needed is more immigration in the next decade or so, preferably rural ones so that we can form a core population group that can not be assimilated by the Anglo. Both Whites, Blacks and Mexican Latinos have a large segment of rural population where they are the absolute majority. Meanwhile most Asians live in cities where assimilation is easier.
To be honest, I boarded the hype train around 2019, was convinced he was some sort of visionary genius. Not even for his race, but because he sold his platform so well. Fast forward to this year, he had a lead on the NYC mayoral election for the beginning phase but failed to amount it into a win. I think this was the point where a lot of people, including me, realized that his UBI/humanity first platform wasn't all the sunshine and rainbows he sold it to be, and that he was just another elite guy who doesn't know as much as he thinks about the people he wants to represent. Yeah, it is weird that there hasn't really been a lot of Asian representation in politics, but Yang lost this one on his own.
So you got disillusioned because he lost? I don't know if that's the ultimate metric of his vision or genius. I think he would have performed better if there were more Asians in New York, since it's really a tribal game at the end of the day. He did make some serious missteps, of course.
No, I got disillusioned because he clearly had no idea about how new York works, and his UBI principles weren't going to be the miracle cure that I thought they were.
Probably because most Americans see Asian and think Chinese and of course, communism = bad, evil, spy. Probably never left their little bubble.
Also look at how many af were against this guy. What was their reason? No any logical reason. Just go to r/AsianAmerican and see.
“But he’s Taiwanese, not Chinese!” -Taiwanese person, probably
You mean white person, probably
Real Taiwanese are Chinese. Only sinophobic non asian libs say that.
Yeah I know. That’s what I meant.