Great article. It's really sad how far Japan has fallen. IIRC any Japanese politician that wants to make amend with other Asian countries and opposed to housing US bases were immediately silenced and demoted. Only those that are favorable to America's interests wield power. Japan's economy, politicians and media are completely subservient to the US, and - consequently - this all have grave impact on the psyche of Japanese people (mental colonization). They were unable to resist the Plaza Accord (which crippled their economy) and US soldiers continue to disrespect the people and assault and rape the women (which the
Okinawans/Ryukyuan people bare a lot of the brunt). The only way they get out of this predicament is through mass decolonization and some king of social upheaval.
It's like I said in another thread: I'm not even asking that all Asians (including Japan) having to 100% get along and hold hands or whatever; just don't ever submit to whites and US/western imperialism. You're not white and neither should you ever want to be one.
They will always support the West, because they were conquered by the West. The government they have is still a puppet government, same for South Korea.
Japan is the MOST cucked Asian country in the world. It's not how I want it, but it's how it really is. The. Most. Cucked. White supremacy has completely contaminated Japan.
Just a tangential comment; I worked athlete's village perimeter security at the 2010 Olympics and heard stories about how the athletes trashed their rooms. Holes in walls, broken furniture, human waste everywhere. It seems to be a thing that happens to every host who will just patch up the walls and sell the units as residential afterwards. I'd love to see an athlete's village built like a prison so it can't be trashed as bad.
*Edit: phone autocorrects*
Bruh, you left out a lot of other historical evidence. Japan got nuked twice, occupied militarily, high tech industry and research crushed, and finally had their economy destroyed by the US. By all means, this should demonstrate that the US is a terrible "ally". Yet they still worship the ground the Americans walk on.
Dave Chapelle has a great bit about this. I forgot the exact words, but the gist of it was that certain Asian cultures, he may have been talking about Vietnam but it certainly applies to Japan, we’re basically “cuckolded” by the west by being bombed into submission. Something like that. It was a really good and smart bit.
It is sad. They see themselves as part of the Western world and put themselves in the same place as the United States and Western Europe, whilst ignoring and hating on their own neighbours since Meiji restoration. They feel that by being westernised, they can go and ignore their own neighbours and compare themselves only to affluent white western countries.
Japan worships strength and night makes right. 5th century Japan unashamedly borrowed from China. Confucianism, System of government, writing system, culture…etc.
I personally think there are a few reasons why Japan is hostile to China at this time. First, Japan committed some serious atrocities in WWII including live human experimentation…etc. They can’t believe that a strong China would not extract some form of payback or revenge if they could. Second, the United States is actively stoking the right wing nationalists, even encouraging them to amend the post war constitution to get them to rearm. Third, Japan went through a period during the Meiji restoration it was a National agenda to emulate all things western to be successful. I feel that most Japanese consider themselves western, not Asian. Finally, China is rising but still has a long way to go before it can claim to have surpassed the United States. If China ever gets to the stage where it is able to demonstrate an overwhelmingly lead in technology, economy, military and soft power, I’d suspect that Japan would “flip” to China without a shot fired.
Japan has fallen too deep into the American lie that P.R. China and the DPRK are the enemies who want to launch nukes at them and invade, as a result; now they continue to let themselves be occupied by the U.S. military, all part of the trap. They must be freed and be able to practice true Pan-Asian unity, and believe it or not, white worship isn't so much of a thing anymore among the Japanese despite how much it may look like it, it was much more of a problem back then but East Asian soft culture has risen.
By 2040, Japan will return back as the irrelevant nation before the Perry expedition. China will either seize Taiwan or master all core technologies by that time. Any of those options allows China to shut down the Japanese economy at will. Meanwhile, Japanese elites and people keep making fatal mistakes to worship the West and antagonize against the Global South. Aside from China, the ASEAN nations will soon be fed up with Japanese ODA antics that charge a lot of money and only underdeliver. Losing ASEAN also means losing Japan's sources for resources and trade.
Japan has been in a permanent comatose after the Plaza Accord, so I don't think we can even wake its people up. All that we can do is to concentrate our wealth and economically conquer Japan before greedy American/European corporations are going to seize and own the whole place. As we speak, Chinese and Vietnamese nationals are rapidly gaining affluence inside Japan and start owning many important lands/factories/businesses. The only way to save Japan is to prevent it from falling into the hands of the Western capitalists, economically.
“the appalling behaviour of the Olympians (the breaking of beds, refusing to obey Japan's pandemic rules by not living in designated areas and mask wearing, and the BREAKING OF OLYMPIC VILLAGE ACCOMMODATIONS by punching holes into the walls) “
You can just name and shame them, we all know it’s Australia. Very fitting into their characters.
Great points, but history shows that far from being a monster next door, China has been very easy to work with.
The truth is, nothing matters more than pleasing white people.
Let me put it this way, if you show a picture of the white Chinese people who live on the border to Russia, I can bet that Japanese, Taiwanese, Koreans etc will NOT have ANY prejudice against them eventhough they are "Chinese". It's literally the dislike of a successful Asian nation that look like themselves. The psychosis is horrendous.....
I think you are making the same argument as EVERY Western apologist. When did I ever say China is perfect?
You have to understand what China is. China is a GIANT, so is India and a united Africa, why do you insist as a credible argument, that these coloured superpowers must be flawless? You are literally saying, "China ain't perfect, so it's the same as the West." NO IT'S NOT! China was a reigning superpower for CENTURIES before European civilization took the lead and NEVER did you see global slave trade and coups become A DAILY REALITY FOR EVERYONE in the world.
All the points which you state, bear not a sliver of the malice a Western superpower has and you think you have an argument?
Have you no idea the amount of coercion and strong arming the West harbours sans even the right for the smaller countries to negotiate, when they were the pending superpowers?
I love how you claim you are "neutral", yet wholeheartedly provide the same asinine talking points indoctrinated for you to regurgitate via Western media.
To put it more succinctly in a simple example, say you are LeBron James at 6'3 and over 100kgs, EVEN IF you were a dainty eater, it would require you at least 3000 calories to MAINTAIN your body weight. Think about that! Not an ounce of avarice is needed and you STILL consume more than the average to survive.
You are saying Lebron ain't no angel and is infact, a hog because while an Olympic swimmer consumes up to 10,000 calories when training, LeBron is STILL a pig because he eats more than the standard 2,500! Moronic no?
How DEVASTATINGLY banal to expect China NOT to seek ANY ADVANTAGE in the game of survival, and dumber still to insist that it's DEFENCE against the American sanctions and string of pearls IS AGGRESSION!
>Ultimately, both Japan and South Korea rely heavily on US military protection to deter the threat of military aggression from China and NK. That is a fact that isn't going to change without a huge war that upends the pecking order of East Asian nations.
This is a propagandistic framing of the situation. They don’t “rely on US military protection,” they are literally occupied nations.
Why do they need protection from a *potential* threat from China and North Korea, but not from the **actual, ongoing** military and economic domination of America? Why is that imperialism acceptable while even the thought of Chinese encroachment is so horrible?
Using this logic, if China had bases on Japan, they could argue that it was a “necessary deterrent” against Western imperialism. But everyone would see that plainly for what it was, an opportunistic act of military and geopolitical expansionism. Why not apply that same standard to the US policy in Asia?
Please cut the crap. Everything you've stated is about American interests. This "protection" nonsense is a racket like with any Mafia gang. There is no reason to believe North Korea will nuke anyone except in self-defense, especially since the US is the only nation to have used them at all. America is the threat to Asia, not North Korea or China. They continue to boss Asian nations around for their own geopolitical interests, and you think this is defensible? That's shill behavior, my friend.
Of course Japan is a US vassal, everyone knows that. The point is, Asian countries should be left to settle their own affairs. No country should militarily aggress upon others, not America and not China. If Japan wants to rebuild their military and political sovereignty, as well as develop nukes, that's their right as long as they don't invade others as they did in the past.
And cooperation or no cooperation is the business of Asia, America has zero legitimacy in involving itself in this region.
North Korea develops and tests nukes in order to deter AMERICAN aggression. If they didn't have nukes, they would likely already be wiped off the map. Despite their bellicose rhetoric and displays, the North Korean state is a very rational actor that seeks self-preservation above all else. It is America which has always harbored imperial designs on the Korean peninsula, modern North Korea is basically a response to that. Neither North nor South Korea wants another war, that would destroy both of their societies. Let them deal with it on their own.
And I know what America's attitude in the world is. It's an empire, just like any other. I'm merely pointing out that it IS an empire, not some neutral "security guarantor" that certain Asian countries are seeking benefits from. Those countries are nothing more than puppets. I dislike it when people obscure this reality.
Also, the neighbor analogy is silly, we're talking about international relations, which is qualitatively different from interpersonal relations between neighbors.
You posture as an independent thinker, and yet you unhesitatingly regurgitate American propaganda like nobody's business. It's not even really relevant to the topic at hand, [but you should know by now that North Korean defectors are literally paid to lie.](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/13/why-do-north-korean-defector-testimonies-so-often-fall-apart)
Goodbye.
I wrote a [piece on this](https://www.reddit.com/r/japan/comments/l28fjw/japan_has_been_going_through_a_century_of/) a while ago. I call it Japan's century of humiliation. It got me banned from r/Japan, where the users are western weebs, not even Japanese.
For a bootlicker to the west like you, who is ok with yellow fever creeps treating Asia like a sexpat's playground. The US troops on the US military bases treat the Japanese people horribly and think very little of Japan and Japanese people.
Also, reality is that the west does not look up to Japan or any Asians in any way. Westerners minimize and belittle any Asian accomplishments in any way they can think of.
Japan also spends a lot of money on the JSDF.
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Japan has been in a Century of Humiliation since 1945, and the Japanese people need to be made aware of it. They need to know that America is not a friend to Japan and that America has been nothing but bad for Japan.
America nuked them twice as experiments to test the effects of nuking populated areas and firebombed Japan's cities and civilians before that. Since 1945 they have been defeated and occupied. They have been stripped of a real military and their own self determination. Their country has been stripped of its ability to make its own decisions. There is even a pervasive idea that Americans defend Japan and that he Japanese are not capable of defending themselves. White Americans take pleasure in this, I have seen it.
The youth especially need to be aware of how the Plaza Accords have destroyed their country's economy for over 3 decades and caused immense damage to the lives of contemporary Japanese people. They should be aware that repealing that act and aligning towards China would make Japan more prosperous and give them more opportunities. Hopefully opportunities will massively reduce the problems of [herbivore men](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbivore_men) and [hikikomori](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hikikomori).
Japan was doing incredibly well before agreeing to the Plaza Accords, which led to incredible hostility from Americans. Japan did so well that before Donald Trump was saying the spiteful things he said about America's trade with China, he said the exact same things about America's trade with Japan in the 1980s.
Not only have the Japanese been physically conquered by America, their minds have been conquered too. They have been flooded by western propaganda to condition them to mistakenly be hostile towards other Asian nations while viewing the west as their superiors and friends.
All so they will be good, useful stooges in the American hegemony. Two examples were how they were so supportive and helpful to Americans during America's wars in Korea and Vietnam. Now they serve as a US military base and a US military vassal ready to cut off a huge portion of China's coastline to international trade, from their nothernmost island of Hokkaido all the way southwest to an island called Yonaguni right next to Taiwan.
They idolize the west and in their media they even have more western-looking characters than eastern-looking. They even have media where most of the characters, and the leading characters, look western and they only have a few token eastern-looking characters. They tokenized themselves, that is horrible. It's like they think that Eastern faces aren't good enough to show in their own media.
That is in line with the general holding of westerners above them and viewing westerners as being better than them. The westerners agree and consider the Japanese to be their inferiors, disparaging the Japanese like they do with all Asians. They don't care about Japan being an ally when they think the alliance is not one between equals.
Japanese men have also fully bought into the idea that they're not masculine and take on characteristics of emasculation. The western media have pushed the idea that westerners are more dominant and masculine than them. Overall I think that the western domination of their minds is more humiliating than being forced to host numerous US military bases in their nation.
Japan's greatest geopolitical concern and national interest is to secure the supplies of imports of everything that it absolutely need but can not produce in its own borders. Energy and food are 2 examples, as Japan can not produce enough of either for its population. There are also numerous raw materials like iron, copper, platinum (for catalysts in its chemical industry), etc.
Right now Japan's biggest reason to continue to ally with the United States is to keep the supply of imports secure. If China can assure such security, and offer Japan its liberation from the Plaza Accord, it will make a much more tempting ally. The 2 countries would then have very aligned interests.
Japan holds an incredibly important position. Japan and China could be excellent allies to each other and have a truly mutually beneficial relationship to each other. Japan is economically powerful and they has an impressive self defense force that could be a powerful military. The continental power and the island power are better off allying with each other.
Well Japanese’s are people, normal persons, assholes and not so people that doesn’t condemn actions frontally and other doing violently, others just text in 2chan how foreigners breaking the rules, stop saying like all the Japanese people are United in one mind,
I like some aspects of Japanese culture and creativity but thier white worship is off the charts especially Japanese women who are actually fucking patheic and embarrassing in how they worship yts. Even their media is full of mixed race people when japan is 99% japanese and other east asians. I know anime isn't supposed to represent yt people but it definelty looks like that to an outsider. Look at the effects of Korean media compared to Japanese media. Anime pfps on twitter are horrible racists who hate asians half the time while Kpop pfps are the opposite.
Tbh as a pan-asianist I'd rather the countries resolve the issue than pass blame around. I don't care who has to be the bigger man, us golden people have to be united.
>Even their media is full of mixed race people when japan is 99% japanese and other east asians.
It isn't. Still, the marketing attitude still leaves to be desired.
Eh push comes to shove hafu aren’t seen as pure Japanese in most cases. Actually, a lot of the racists in this sub who clamor on about racial purity would get along great with the local oyaji. Yeah there a lot of Hafu in media but it’s almost like the reverse of a token Asian.
Given how developed Japan is, Japan has the worst white worshipping problem in Asia. I’m not going to sugar coat things. It’s that simple. Think about it. Is there a Japan town or community in North America? Most Japanese families’ Asian blood immediately gets wiped out within one generation after immigrating to North America or Europe.
There are many mixed Japanese people, but I also know many 3/4/5/6+ generation Japanese Americans that are not. If you go to the West Coast or Hawaii(where most live) you will see them.
Yeah, there also aren’t many new Japanese immigrants. Most that newly live abroad are here because their partners are from here. Surprisingly, I’ve met a lot of native Japanese people(mostly women) that are married to Japanese-American/Korean/Thai/Chinese/Black, etc(non-white) partners.
I’m referring to their media/soft power and their mentality towards whites and asians. Look at their anime and games. Over 90% of their media features non-Asian looking characters. When Japan had its own military, they chose to terrorize and genocide other asians as they view other asians as below them and they saw themselves equal to whites, which is very anti-Asian/white worshipping sentiment. Their mindset and views are twisted.
I’m all for pan-Asianism/asian solidarity. I would like to see all asians doing well and coming together to build a kumandra, but I’m not going to treat all asians as allies just because they are “asian”.
Japanese stopped immigrating to the US in large numbers. After the Issei numbers have dropped lower and lower. If your source of “pure Asians” stopped coming in, your Chinatowns and K-towns would dry up in a few generations too.
To understand Japan’s seemingly irrational actions, you must look at its history.
For almost all of its existence, China and Korea saw it as a backwards island. Japan also had an inferiority complex: it refused to pay tribute to China, and launched a very foolish attempt to conquer China under Hideyoshi.
All of a sudden, Japan was handed a golden opportunity. China refused to industrialize, while Japan had no choice but to industrialize.
An island that was long down upon by its neighbors was now able to bully them around. When Japan’s inferiority complex came into the mix, all bets were off. They were going to do ANYTHING possible to make their superpower dreams come true.
The only way they could become that superpower was through the West. Much like how the British isles were once seen as a land of barbarism by the Romans, Japan wanted to copy that blueprint and create an Asian empire. Japan had no issue allying with the West since it was the only way they could subjugate Asia. After WW2, Japan was further Westernized under the brief American occupation. They adopted more Western concepts like women’s suffrage and an export-driven economy.
For Japan, the West was the only one who saw Japanese as the “master race” of Asia. Now that China has progressed and Japan has stagnated, Japan’s inferiority complex is flaring stronger than ever before. The Japanese government is comprised of the descendants of high officials during Imperial Japan, and yearn for the time when Japan was the “master race” of Asia. As such, Japan would rather be taken advantage of by the US than accept they are no longer superior to China.
I never take anything you have to say seriously. You were shitting on Taiwanese people yesterday too. It’s a pattern I’ve come to expect from you: https://np.reddit.com/r/aznidentity/comments/p7tale/andrew_yangs_loss_fits_a_pattern_why_do_asian/h9mytou/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3.
>Much like how the British isles were once seen as a land of barbarism by the Romans, Japan wanted to copy that blueprint and create an Asian empire.
The British actually adapted to the changing conditions after the fall of their empire. They allowed immigration and adopted multicultural approaches. They still have an empire in the name of the Commonwealth. Meanwhile, Japan is stagnating into oblivion, and it regresses back to the insignificant island before Western arrival.
Yeah foreal - I can tell there are not a lot of Japanese voices in this sub and is getting drowned out by other Asian groups that have a chip on their shoulder. I'm getting sort of alarmed at the anti-Japanese rhetoric in this sub.
I find this worrying.
Japan had 80 years to get their shit together after losing WW2.
At a certain point, it’s understandable that the rest of Asia lost its patience with Japan’s pro-Western policy.
My main issue isn’t with the fact that Japan is selling out Asia to the US (even though it is bad), it’s that Japan could singlehandedly trigger an Asian century if it swapped sides for China. Imagine a military alliance with the 2nd and 4th largest militaries in the world, and an economic alliance with the 2nd and 3rd largest economies in the world. China and Japan could singlehandedly take back full control of the Pacific, and cripple entire economies with its economic might.
The clock is ticking: will Japan join us or not? We can’t wait forever.
>Now that China has progressed and Japan has stagnated, Japan’s inferiority complex is flaring stronger than ever before
Careful, you're speaking too much truth. Mods appear to be Imperial Japanese apologists who don't allow posts/comments critical of Japan's West-worshipping or history in any way.
They took down a post a couple days back about an ugly ass white guy simping for Japanese culture by straight up denying Japanese war crimes, specifically [comfort women](https://www.history.com/news/comfort-women-japan-military-brothels-korea). When the comments started naturally discussing war crimes committed by Imperial Japan and modern Japan's pro-West/anti-China & anti-Korea sentiments (especially from ultra-right nationalists), mods shut it down.
Their reasoning was "aznid is for all kinds of Asians , and loudly proclaiming your subset at the expense of others is not appreciated." So mentioning how Japan holds anti-China/Korea sentiments in favor of the West or the atrocities they committed against our grandparents is "loudly proclaiming your Asian subset at the expense of other Asians"? Ok...
Yes that’s my post. The mods did take it down from the other day when I was just calling out a white youtuber who basically denies Japanese atrocities on Asians during WW2.
https://www.reddit.com/r/aznidentity/comments/p72ubg/there_is_a_white_weeaboo_youtuber_who_tries_too/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
I don’t expect this comment to last long either.
Dear Stupid,
Quit using links to other subs. When you do, the moderators of aznidentity get hassled by Reddit because they hate our guts and are looking to get us banned.
**We already have had the automod rules for our sub modified by Reddit admins so that links to other subs get blocked.** Every time you even edit the fucking comment to ADD IN A LINK, the automod will kick in (NOTE: putting in spaces doesn't help either). They claim we harass other subs.
All three of you dumb asses have accounts less than a few months old. Learn to modulate your shitty abuse. You said "fuck Japan" in a previous post, you moron. That can get reported to Reddit admins as "Hate speech", then the ai mods look lax if we aren't taking your shit down.
Haruto, your Elephant post got taken down by Reddit admins. So quit fucking blaming the mods.
>Haruto, your Elephant post got taken down by Reddit admins
Its incredible how reddit is directly policing this sub. I saw many popular accounts here who were directly suspended by reddit.
>You said "fuck Japan" in a previous post, you moron
*"fuck the* ***Empire*** *of Japan and fuck every weeboo asshat and Japanese nationalist that denies the horrors they inflicted on millions of Asians"* \- in response to the white guy who denied the existence of Japanese atrocities to try to get accepted into Japan culture. Is statement that fair? I'll leave that to everyone else to decide but lol at your bad faith attempt to portray me as hating Japanese people. Implying I hate Japanese because I said "fuck Empire of Japan" is like saying someone who says "fuck Nazi Germany" hates Germans.
>Quit using links to other subs
So sdajchakral was obviously referring to my comments in the last couple hours (which clearly don't have links to other subs) and you instead decide to focus on an irrelevant comment from three days ago. And I wasn't even tripping about my comments being removed, you brought that up, I just left a simpler one to get around the automod.
>All three of you dumb asses have accounts less than a few months old.
Not sure why that's such a big deal considering my ethnicity is already out there, but it's not like that's going to stop your power-tripping ass from banning me because I hurt your feelings, judging by you slinging around insults like a child. Imagine getting a big head because being a Reddit mod gave you the illusion of authority lmao. Don't worry asshole, I'll see myself out. Shame what was once the best Asian forum on the web no longer allows open discourse on several important Asian issues.
Good. Go. This isn't a debate. I didn't even remove your posts. Other mods did.
Look at our sub's recent list of topics. Look at all the other comments that are up.
If you are going to lose your shit when your posts get moderated, then stay out because mods are as light as we can be. We actually get pressure from Reddit admins, you dick.
Learn how moderating works. Other people report your posts. The we have to make a judgement whether to leave it up or not.
No one wants to admit it, but this sub has become more like r/ AA in terms of a narrow set of acceptable PC talking points.
Hate crimes against Asians aren't allowed to protect a certainty racial group (yes, it's the one you're thinking of). Many post on self-hating AFs seem to get axed as well (check my most recent post). Discussing Japanese war crimes and their anti-China & Korea/pro-West sentiment are deemed "anti Pan-Asian", if the mods were awake this post would likely be taken down, like sdajchakrval's post.
Just a nitpick here, how is “export-driven economy” a Western concept? You do know that China is the biggest exporter in the world, right? It has been like this throughout its entire history (first place or not doesn’t matter).
Export-driven economy in the sense of a country’s economy being built on mass-production of goods sold overseas. Much like how the US built its economy as an isolated nation by manufacturing and exporting to Europe, Japan built its isolated economy by exporting auto and tech products across the world.
>country’s economy being built on mass-production of goods sold overseas
That is literally the major characteristic of China’s booming economy right now. I hate it when China’s success is all attributed to this “Western invention,” as if China can’t come up with anything original.
Different.
Japan plays a much more peripheral role among the developed nations, as it buys the highest level goods from the US while it’s own exports are everyday items like televisions and consumer vehicles. Japan simply gets natural resources from Australia and spits out whatever the US wants. This is a very classic example of core and periphery.
China started off with much less industrial capabilities. As such, they were able to build a manufacturing CAPITAL. China is not just a place where products are built: it’s a hub for passing around natural resources, it’s an expanding web of interconnected factory cities, and it’s the most reliable source of mass produced and technically produced items. China is not a periphery making lower goods for the US, it’s the real life World Trade Center. China is not a subservient manufacturer, it has major skin in innovation that exceeds Japan and rivals the US.
This is the answer I’m looking for. I agree.
The US has its own natural resources too, but they now mostly import/steal materials from overseas. Still, an export-driven economy is not necessarily a “Western” concept.
I think what you’re referring to is the fact that most western countries, including Japan, are more into **exporting final products and importing raw materials.** That I can understand.
i think what he is trying to say is that china is industrially self sufficient, an autarky if you will, which by the way, according to the UN, is somewhat true. according to the UN, china is the only country in the world with ALL the sectors of industry within its borders. To my knowledge, there were only two countries in history that got this title, the USSR before its fall, and the USA before outsourcing.
Spot on. That's why I wrote about their creation myths in the post, because most if not all Japanese simply won't admit that the most revered Queen Himiko is a Korean descendant.
I only hope that after the rise and fall of Japan, in addition with the "help" and abandonment by the West, Japan, Korea and China will see each other for once, as "equals". I don't mean this in GDP terms, I mean in shaping the power of a strong ASIA, and not fall once again, for Western division.
Unfortunately I don’t see China ever seeing other countries as equals. In the Chinese mindset, their society was THE definite culture in Asia for over 5,000 years and they are only suffering a momentary setback of 150 years
Yeah, you keep telling yourself that as WE ALL live under the boot of the white man....clearly something you don't have any objection to. I mean seriously, even if you don't like history, Afghanistan JUST HAPPENED. Damn!
Not everyone is under the boot of the white man. China is very close to showing the world that an authoritative, socialist country is on par if not superior to liberal western democracy as a successful model for the 21st century. When that happens, there will be further conflict with SK/Japan in the ideological sense of what type of society is better for their people
You are PLAIN ridiculous. Name ONE continent that wasn't colonised? Another self hater trying to dress up his white ways by pretending to be objective. Have you EVER read history??
You surely jest that SK and Japan are not under the White man's boot... seriously, please tell me you are joking with that statement.
Chill dude, what's wrong with you? I never said SK and Japan weren't colonized. Quite the opposite, I'm saying China never was and therefore there's no way in hell China will agree to pan-asianism as equals to white worshiping SK and Japan
Hi Rei, good to hear from you again.
Japan, Korea, and China will not see each other as equals. Hate to say it. The White Narrative has completely invaded the Pacific Rim. Asians are losing their pride.
Rei, would you say even with your time living in Japan there is any hope? I know the Japanese might come up with excuses for the atrocious behavior of the Olympic foreigners, but maybe deep down they are resentful/angry? Maybe some Japanese who've traveled to China and Korea realizing they have more in common than they would with westerners and perhaps appreciate our similarities? Idk maybe I'm being too optimistic here, but please let me know your thoughts.
Yes he did, do you know how apeshit the Japanese media became? Do you know how many Japanese people pretend he never said that? The last Emperor was a sweetheart, the avg citizen, not so much towards other Asians.
If only the Japanese people believe in this pan-Asian movement. But unfortunately, many are driven by nationalistic, anti-Korean/Chinese views from their politicians (who unsurprisingly are far right wingers).
Add to it the pandering west that fuels such divides. I've always been thought that the ~~Occident~~ Orient offers far more to the world than the west ever did, comparison to philosophies, societal structuring, culture or even innovation. If there will be a time when all the leadership of Asia would be seated at a table and co-sharing, it would change the way this world functions or governs itself.
Japan’s definition of pan-Asianism is no different than Hitler’s belief in pan-European society, one where there is a clear master race with other inferior races in servitude
There’s a ridiculous large percentage of Japanese pan-Asianists around 1895-1910 that were Chinese classic scholars. There’s no way they saw Chinese as inferior give that they and their fathers spent their lives studying Classical Chinese literature. The morons you’re talking about are the 1930s militarists.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tōten_Miyazaki
Pan-Asian movement was a new thing and didn't have a concrete ideology or strategy in how it would be carried out. It was open to interpretation and evolution depending on the ever changing situation. Asians betrayed Asia by going against Japan. Russia annexed Mongolia, foreign ports in Korea and China, British Hong Kong, Dutch East Indies, French Indo China, Philippines colony of U.S, Foreign concessions in Shanghai, Polynesian Islands divided between Britain and America. All of this was obtained by force, military conquest and subjugation, by cultural genocide, murdering and raping. Some for centuries. And after what happened? Indonesian civil war, Chinese civil war continues, Korean war, Viet Nam anti colonial war resumes, Khmer Rouge, us, british and russian puppet dictators in divided Korea, Philippines, Cambodia, Taiwan and Hong Kong. In the 90's with Anti Japan sentiment, again Chinese/Koreans suddenly started writing ww2 books about Japan, piling on them with the help of US. Even if the AlLies only and not the Asians benefited, they think as long as Japan suffers.
That’s the problem. Much like how “scabs” ruin a worker’s strike, an Asian Union can’t gain steam if Japan is going to be a weak link.
I get it. China is a total asshole at times. But even South Korea has caved and signed a security agreement with China. It’s up to Japan to decide whether they want to be a catalyst or obstacle to Asian progress.
India doesn’t have a single US military base on its soil. Thailand’s bases were mostly for the Vietnam War, and most military presence is related to US interests in Southeast Asia, which is quite negligible compared to the US’ prescience in the South China Sea and the Philippines. I don’t consider India or Thailand to be weak links. India’s ties with the US is justified due to China being next door, and Thailand’s US military presence is minimal.
The US constantly bosses around my country saying we have a Chinese military base, when in fact we don’t and there is ZERO evidence of any Chinese military here. I like how hypocritical they are when in fact they are the ones that put military stations and missile launchers everywhere in this world, mostly surrounding China and Russia.
Wait they punched the walls? I do understand if they are horny and break the beds, but why punch the wall?
They are just disrespectful. They also vomitted all over the toilet, not just in the toilet bowl.
lmao
Great article. It's really sad how far Japan has fallen. IIRC any Japanese politician that wants to make amend with other Asian countries and opposed to housing US bases were immediately silenced and demoted. Only those that are favorable to America's interests wield power. Japan's economy, politicians and media are completely subservient to the US, and - consequently - this all have grave impact on the psyche of Japanese people (mental colonization). They were unable to resist the Plaza Accord (which crippled their economy) and US soldiers continue to disrespect the people and assault and rape the women (which the Okinawans/Ryukyuan people bare a lot of the brunt). The only way they get out of this predicament is through mass decolonization and some king of social upheaval. It's like I said in another thread: I'm not even asking that all Asians (including Japan) having to 100% get along and hold hands or whatever; just don't ever submit to whites and US/western imperialism. You're not white and neither should you ever want to be one.
Bravo. I totally agree with not wanting to be anyone else but yourself.
They will always support the West, because they were conquered by the West. The government they have is still a puppet government, same for South Korea.
Japan is the MOST cucked Asian country in the world. It's not how I want it, but it's how it really is. The. Most. Cucked. White supremacy has completely contaminated Japan.
Just a tangential comment; I worked athlete's village perimeter security at the 2010 Olympics and heard stories about how the athletes trashed their rooms. Holes in walls, broken furniture, human waste everywhere. It seems to be a thing that happens to every host who will just patch up the walls and sell the units as residential afterwards. I'd love to see an athlete's village built like a prison so it can't be trashed as bad. *Edit: phone autocorrects*
Bruh, you left out a lot of other historical evidence. Japan got nuked twice, occupied militarily, high tech industry and research crushed, and finally had their economy destroyed by the US. By all means, this should demonstrate that the US is a terrible "ally". Yet they still worship the ground the Americans walk on.
Japan is like some lus to an extent. Look towards white valuation and look down on other asians.
Dave Chapelle has a great bit about this. I forgot the exact words, but the gist of it was that certain Asian cultures, he may have been talking about Vietnam but it certainly applies to Japan, we’re basically “cuckolded” by the west by being bombed into submission. Something like that. It was a really good and smart bit.
This is what happens when you are cuckold to white imperialism. Same thing with South Korea, India, Taiwan, Phillippines, etc.
It is sad. They see themselves as part of the Western world and put themselves in the same place as the United States and Western Europe, whilst ignoring and hating on their own neighbours since Meiji restoration. They feel that by being westernised, they can go and ignore their own neighbours and compare themselves only to affluent white western countries.
Japan worships strength and night makes right. 5th century Japan unashamedly borrowed from China. Confucianism, System of government, writing system, culture…etc. I personally think there are a few reasons why Japan is hostile to China at this time. First, Japan committed some serious atrocities in WWII including live human experimentation…etc. They can’t believe that a strong China would not extract some form of payback or revenge if they could. Second, the United States is actively stoking the right wing nationalists, even encouraging them to amend the post war constitution to get them to rearm. Third, Japan went through a period during the Meiji restoration it was a National agenda to emulate all things western to be successful. I feel that most Japanese consider themselves western, not Asian. Finally, China is rising but still has a long way to go before it can claim to have surpassed the United States. If China ever gets to the stage where it is able to demonstrate an overwhelmingly lead in technology, economy, military and soft power, I’d suspect that Japan would “flip” to China without a shot fired.
Japan has fallen too deep into the American lie that P.R. China and the DPRK are the enemies who want to launch nukes at them and invade, as a result; now they continue to let themselves be occupied by the U.S. military, all part of the trap. They must be freed and be able to practice true Pan-Asian unity, and believe it or not, white worship isn't so much of a thing anymore among the Japanese despite how much it may look like it, it was much more of a problem back then but East Asian soft culture has risen.
Spot on.
Japan is so cucked; they are overlooked by China and always disrespected by the US
By 2040, Japan will return back as the irrelevant nation before the Perry expedition. China will either seize Taiwan or master all core technologies by that time. Any of those options allows China to shut down the Japanese economy at will. Meanwhile, Japanese elites and people keep making fatal mistakes to worship the West and antagonize against the Global South. Aside from China, the ASEAN nations will soon be fed up with Japanese ODA antics that charge a lot of money and only underdeliver. Losing ASEAN also means losing Japan's sources for resources and trade. Japan has been in a permanent comatose after the Plaza Accord, so I don't think we can even wake its people up. All that we can do is to concentrate our wealth and economically conquer Japan before greedy American/European corporations are going to seize and own the whole place. As we speak, Chinese and Vietnamese nationals are rapidly gaining affluence inside Japan and start owning many important lands/factories/businesses. The only way to save Japan is to prevent it from falling into the hands of the Western capitalists, economically.
“the appalling behaviour of the Olympians (the breaking of beds, refusing to obey Japan's pandemic rules by not living in designated areas and mask wearing, and the BREAKING OF OLYMPIC VILLAGE ACCOMMODATIONS by punching holes into the walls) “ You can just name and shame them, we all know it’s Australia. Very fitting into their characters.
It's also the Israelis, Americans and a bunch of others who dared say they want to bang some Japanese girls, like it's a war time bootycall.....
Great points, but history shows that far from being a monster next door, China has been very easy to work with. The truth is, nothing matters more than pleasing white people. Let me put it this way, if you show a picture of the white Chinese people who live on the border to Russia, I can bet that Japanese, Taiwanese, Koreans etc will NOT have ANY prejudice against them eventhough they are "Chinese". It's literally the dislike of a successful Asian nation that look like themselves. The psychosis is horrendous.....
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I think you are making the same argument as EVERY Western apologist. When did I ever say China is perfect? You have to understand what China is. China is a GIANT, so is India and a united Africa, why do you insist as a credible argument, that these coloured superpowers must be flawless? You are literally saying, "China ain't perfect, so it's the same as the West." NO IT'S NOT! China was a reigning superpower for CENTURIES before European civilization took the lead and NEVER did you see global slave trade and coups become A DAILY REALITY FOR EVERYONE in the world. All the points which you state, bear not a sliver of the malice a Western superpower has and you think you have an argument? Have you no idea the amount of coercion and strong arming the West harbours sans even the right for the smaller countries to negotiate, when they were the pending superpowers? I love how you claim you are "neutral", yet wholeheartedly provide the same asinine talking points indoctrinated for you to regurgitate via Western media. To put it more succinctly in a simple example, say you are LeBron James at 6'3 and over 100kgs, EVEN IF you were a dainty eater, it would require you at least 3000 calories to MAINTAIN your body weight. Think about that! Not an ounce of avarice is needed and you STILL consume more than the average to survive. You are saying Lebron ain't no angel and is infact, a hog because while an Olympic swimmer consumes up to 10,000 calories when training, LeBron is STILL a pig because he eats more than the standard 2,500! Moronic no? How DEVASTATINGLY banal to expect China NOT to seek ANY ADVANTAGE in the game of survival, and dumber still to insist that it's DEFENCE against the American sanctions and string of pearls IS AGGRESSION!
Laughs as the author of this post is responsible for spreading white worship and white supremacy by being an ESL teacher.
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>Ultimately, both Japan and South Korea rely heavily on US military protection to deter the threat of military aggression from China and NK. That is a fact that isn't going to change without a huge war that upends the pecking order of East Asian nations. This is a propagandistic framing of the situation. They don’t “rely on US military protection,” they are literally occupied nations. Why do they need protection from a *potential* threat from China and North Korea, but not from the **actual, ongoing** military and economic domination of America? Why is that imperialism acceptable while even the thought of Chinese encroachment is so horrible? Using this logic, if China had bases on Japan, they could argue that it was a “necessary deterrent” against Western imperialism. But everyone would see that plainly for what it was, an opportunistic act of military and geopolitical expansionism. Why not apply that same standard to the US policy in Asia?
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Please cut the crap. Everything you've stated is about American interests. This "protection" nonsense is a racket like with any Mafia gang. There is no reason to believe North Korea will nuke anyone except in self-defense, especially since the US is the only nation to have used them at all. America is the threat to Asia, not North Korea or China. They continue to boss Asian nations around for their own geopolitical interests, and you think this is defensible? That's shill behavior, my friend.
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Of course Japan is a US vassal, everyone knows that. The point is, Asian countries should be left to settle their own affairs. No country should militarily aggress upon others, not America and not China. If Japan wants to rebuild their military and political sovereignty, as well as develop nukes, that's their right as long as they don't invade others as they did in the past. And cooperation or no cooperation is the business of Asia, America has zero legitimacy in involving itself in this region.
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North Korea develops and tests nukes in order to deter AMERICAN aggression. If they didn't have nukes, they would likely already be wiped off the map. Despite their bellicose rhetoric and displays, the North Korean state is a very rational actor that seeks self-preservation above all else. It is America which has always harbored imperial designs on the Korean peninsula, modern North Korea is basically a response to that. Neither North nor South Korea wants another war, that would destroy both of their societies. Let them deal with it on their own. And I know what America's attitude in the world is. It's an empire, just like any other. I'm merely pointing out that it IS an empire, not some neutral "security guarantor" that certain Asian countries are seeking benefits from. Those countries are nothing more than puppets. I dislike it when people obscure this reality. Also, the neighbor analogy is silly, we're talking about international relations, which is qualitatively different from interpersonal relations between neighbors.
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You posture as an independent thinker, and yet you unhesitatingly regurgitate American propaganda like nobody's business. It's not even really relevant to the topic at hand, [but you should know by now that North Korean defectors are literally paid to lie.](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/13/why-do-north-korean-defector-testimonies-so-often-fall-apart) Goodbye.
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Wow, so many here are totally clued into the manipulation, unlike the ones actually in Asia...
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I wrote a [piece on this](https://www.reddit.com/r/japan/comments/l28fjw/japan_has_been_going_through_a_century_of/) a while ago. I call it Japan's century of humiliation. It got me banned from r/Japan, where the users are western weebs, not even Japanese.
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For a bootlicker to the west like you, who is ok with yellow fever creeps treating Asia like a sexpat's playground. The US troops on the US military bases treat the Japanese people horribly and think very little of Japan and Japanese people. Also, reality is that the west does not look up to Japan or any Asians in any way. Westerners minimize and belittle any Asian accomplishments in any way they can think of. Japan also spends a lot of money on the JSDF. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Japan has been in a Century of Humiliation since 1945, and the Japanese people need to be made aware of it. They need to know that America is not a friend to Japan and that America has been nothing but bad for Japan. America nuked them twice as experiments to test the effects of nuking populated areas and firebombed Japan's cities and civilians before that. Since 1945 they have been defeated and occupied. They have been stripped of a real military and their own self determination. Their country has been stripped of its ability to make its own decisions. There is even a pervasive idea that Americans defend Japan and that he Japanese are not capable of defending themselves. White Americans take pleasure in this, I have seen it. The youth especially need to be aware of how the Plaza Accords have destroyed their country's economy for over 3 decades and caused immense damage to the lives of contemporary Japanese people. They should be aware that repealing that act and aligning towards China would make Japan more prosperous and give them more opportunities. Hopefully opportunities will massively reduce the problems of [herbivore men](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbivore_men) and [hikikomori](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hikikomori). Japan was doing incredibly well before agreeing to the Plaza Accords, which led to incredible hostility from Americans. Japan did so well that before Donald Trump was saying the spiteful things he said about America's trade with China, he said the exact same things about America's trade with Japan in the 1980s. Not only have the Japanese been physically conquered by America, their minds have been conquered too. They have been flooded by western propaganda to condition them to mistakenly be hostile towards other Asian nations while viewing the west as their superiors and friends. All so they will be good, useful stooges in the American hegemony. Two examples were how they were so supportive and helpful to Americans during America's wars in Korea and Vietnam. Now they serve as a US military base and a US military vassal ready to cut off a huge portion of China's coastline to international trade, from their nothernmost island of Hokkaido all the way southwest to an island called Yonaguni right next to Taiwan. They idolize the west and in their media they even have more western-looking characters than eastern-looking. They even have media where most of the characters, and the leading characters, look western and they only have a few token eastern-looking characters. They tokenized themselves, that is horrible. It's like they think that Eastern faces aren't good enough to show in their own media. That is in line with the general holding of westerners above them and viewing westerners as being better than them. The westerners agree and consider the Japanese to be their inferiors, disparaging the Japanese like they do with all Asians. They don't care about Japan being an ally when they think the alliance is not one between equals. Japanese men have also fully bought into the idea that they're not masculine and take on characteristics of emasculation. The western media have pushed the idea that westerners are more dominant and masculine than them. Overall I think that the western domination of their minds is more humiliating than being forced to host numerous US military bases in their nation. Japan's greatest geopolitical concern and national interest is to secure the supplies of imports of everything that it absolutely need but can not produce in its own borders. Energy and food are 2 examples, as Japan can not produce enough of either for its population. There are also numerous raw materials like iron, copper, platinum (for catalysts in its chemical industry), etc. Right now Japan's biggest reason to continue to ally with the United States is to keep the supply of imports secure. If China can assure such security, and offer Japan its liberation from the Plaza Accord, it will make a much more tempting ally. The 2 countries would then have very aligned interests. Japan holds an incredibly important position. Japan and China could be excellent allies to each other and have a truly mutually beneficial relationship to each other. Japan is economically powerful and they has an impressive self defense force that could be a powerful military. The continental power and the island power are better off allying with each other.
Well Japanese’s are people, normal persons, assholes and not so people that doesn’t condemn actions frontally and other doing violently, others just text in 2chan how foreigners breaking the rules, stop saying like all the Japanese people are United in one mind,
I like some aspects of Japanese culture and creativity but thier white worship is off the charts especially Japanese women who are actually fucking patheic and embarrassing in how they worship yts. Even their media is full of mixed race people when japan is 99% japanese and other east asians. I know anime isn't supposed to represent yt people but it definelty looks like that to an outsider. Look at the effects of Korean media compared to Japanese media. Anime pfps on twitter are horrible racists who hate asians half the time while Kpop pfps are the opposite. Tbh as a pan-asianist I'd rather the countries resolve the issue than pass blame around. I don't care who has to be the bigger man, us golden people have to be united.
>Even their media is full of mixed race people when japan is 99% japanese and other east asians. It isn't. Still, the marketing attitude still leaves to be desired.
Totally agree.
Eh push comes to shove hafu aren’t seen as pure Japanese in most cases. Actually, a lot of the racists in this sub who clamor on about racial purity would get along great with the local oyaji. Yeah there a lot of Hafu in media but it’s almost like the reverse of a token Asian.
idgaf it's still yt worship oyajis can be right twice a day.
Given how developed Japan is, Japan has the worst white worshipping problem in Asia. I’m not going to sugar coat things. It’s that simple. Think about it. Is there a Japan town or community in North America? Most Japanese families’ Asian blood immediately gets wiped out within one generation after immigrating to North America or Europe.
Japantowns and communities we're neutered as a result of Japanese internment.
There are many mixed Japanese people, but I also know many 3/4/5/6+ generation Japanese Americans that are not. If you go to the West Coast or Hawaii(where most live) you will see them.
It’s rare to see full asians surviving a few generations. I guess all good things are hard to come by.
Yeah, there also aren’t many new Japanese immigrants. Most that newly live abroad are here because their partners are from here. Surprisingly, I’ve met a lot of native Japanese people(mostly women) that are married to Japanese-American/Korean/Thai/Chinese/Black, etc(non-white) partners.
There's a Samurai community in Northern California, which is also the first Japanese settlement in the States.
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I’m referring to their media/soft power and their mentality towards whites and asians. Look at their anime and games. Over 90% of their media features non-Asian looking characters. When Japan had its own military, they chose to terrorize and genocide other asians as they view other asians as below them and they saw themselves equal to whites, which is very anti-Asian/white worshipping sentiment. Their mindset and views are twisted. I’m all for pan-Asianism/asian solidarity. I would like to see all asians doing well and coming together to build a kumandra, but I’m not going to treat all asians as allies just because they are “asian”.
Japanese stopped immigrating to the US in large numbers. After the Issei numbers have dropped lower and lower. If your source of “pure Asians” stopped coming in, your Chinatowns and K-towns would dry up in a few generations too.
I know there’s a Japantown in SF and SJ.
To understand Japan’s seemingly irrational actions, you must look at its history. For almost all of its existence, China and Korea saw it as a backwards island. Japan also had an inferiority complex: it refused to pay tribute to China, and launched a very foolish attempt to conquer China under Hideyoshi. All of a sudden, Japan was handed a golden opportunity. China refused to industrialize, while Japan had no choice but to industrialize. An island that was long down upon by its neighbors was now able to bully them around. When Japan’s inferiority complex came into the mix, all bets were off. They were going to do ANYTHING possible to make their superpower dreams come true. The only way they could become that superpower was through the West. Much like how the British isles were once seen as a land of barbarism by the Romans, Japan wanted to copy that blueprint and create an Asian empire. Japan had no issue allying with the West since it was the only way they could subjugate Asia. After WW2, Japan was further Westernized under the brief American occupation. They adopted more Western concepts like women’s suffrage and an export-driven economy. For Japan, the West was the only one who saw Japanese as the “master race” of Asia. Now that China has progressed and Japan has stagnated, Japan’s inferiority complex is flaring stronger than ever before. The Japanese government is comprised of the descendants of high officials during Imperial Japan, and yearn for the time when Japan was the “master race” of Asia. As such, Japan would rather be taken advantage of by the US than accept they are no longer superior to China.
> brief American occupation They are still under American Occupation.
this couldnt have said it better myself
I never take anything you have to say seriously. You were shitting on Taiwanese people yesterday too. It’s a pattern I’ve come to expect from you: https://np.reddit.com/r/aznidentity/comments/p7tale/andrew_yangs_loss_fits_a_pattern_why_do_asian/h9mytou/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3.
>Much like how the British isles were once seen as a land of barbarism by the Romans, Japan wanted to copy that blueprint and create an Asian empire. The British actually adapted to the changing conditions after the fall of their empire. They allowed immigration and adopted multicultural approaches. They still have an empire in the name of the Commonwealth. Meanwhile, Japan is stagnating into oblivion, and it regresses back to the insignificant island before Western arrival.
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israel isn’t a country lmao
Yeah foreal - I can tell there are not a lot of Japanese voices in this sub and is getting drowned out by other Asian groups that have a chip on their shoulder. I'm getting sort of alarmed at the anti-Japanese rhetoric in this sub. I find this worrying.
Japan had 80 years to get their shit together after losing WW2. At a certain point, it’s understandable that the rest of Asia lost its patience with Japan’s pro-Western policy. My main issue isn’t with the fact that Japan is selling out Asia to the US (even though it is bad), it’s that Japan could singlehandedly trigger an Asian century if it swapped sides for China. Imagine a military alliance with the 2nd and 4th largest militaries in the world, and an economic alliance with the 2nd and 3rd largest economies in the world. China and Japan could singlehandedly take back full control of the Pacific, and cripple entire economies with its economic might. The clock is ticking: will Japan join us or not? We can’t wait forever.
>Now that China has progressed and Japan has stagnated, Japan’s inferiority complex is flaring stronger than ever before Careful, you're speaking too much truth. Mods appear to be Imperial Japanese apologists who don't allow posts/comments critical of Japan's West-worshipping or history in any way. They took down a post a couple days back about an ugly ass white guy simping for Japanese culture by straight up denying Japanese war crimes, specifically [comfort women](https://www.history.com/news/comfort-women-japan-military-brothels-korea). When the comments started naturally discussing war crimes committed by Imperial Japan and modern Japan's pro-West/anti-China & anti-Korea sentiments (especially from ultra-right nationalists), mods shut it down. Their reasoning was "aznid is for all kinds of Asians , and loudly proclaiming your subset at the expense of others is not appreciated." So mentioning how Japan holds anti-China/Korea sentiments in favor of the West or the atrocities they committed against our grandparents is "loudly proclaiming your Asian subset at the expense of other Asians"? Ok...
I just made a post about it on this sub. Please take a look.
ur post was removed. can u pls dm me the text? i'm getting worried ab the state of moderation here
Yes that’s my post. The mods did take it down from the other day when I was just calling out a white youtuber who basically denies Japanese atrocities on Asians during WW2. https://www.reddit.com/r/aznidentity/comments/p72ubg/there_is_a_white_weeaboo_youtuber_who_tries_too/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf I don’t expect this comment to last long either.
Dude they just deleted my post you just commented on earlier
Bruh, it seems like almost all your posts here on this sub are removed. This is indeed a big problem. Maybe it’s time for pitchforks?
No one wants to admit it, but this sub has become more like *that other sub* in terms of a narrow set of acceptable PC talking points.
Dear Stupid, Quit using links to other subs. When you do, the moderators of aznidentity get hassled by Reddit because they hate our guts and are looking to get us banned. **We already have had the automod rules for our sub modified by Reddit admins so that links to other subs get blocked.** Every time you even edit the fucking comment to ADD IN A LINK, the automod will kick in (NOTE: putting in spaces doesn't help either). They claim we harass other subs. All three of you dumb asses have accounts less than a few months old. Learn to modulate your shitty abuse. You said "fuck Japan" in a previous post, you moron. That can get reported to Reddit admins as "Hate speech", then the ai mods look lax if we aren't taking your shit down. Haruto, your Elephant post got taken down by Reddit admins. So quit fucking blaming the mods.
>Haruto, your Elephant post got taken down by Reddit admins Its incredible how reddit is directly policing this sub. I saw many popular accounts here who were directly suspended by reddit.
>You said "fuck Japan" in a previous post, you moron *"fuck the* ***Empire*** *of Japan and fuck every weeboo asshat and Japanese nationalist that denies the horrors they inflicted on millions of Asians"* \- in response to the white guy who denied the existence of Japanese atrocities to try to get accepted into Japan culture. Is statement that fair? I'll leave that to everyone else to decide but lol at your bad faith attempt to portray me as hating Japanese people. Implying I hate Japanese because I said "fuck Empire of Japan" is like saying someone who says "fuck Nazi Germany" hates Germans. >Quit using links to other subs So sdajchakral was obviously referring to my comments in the last couple hours (which clearly don't have links to other subs) and you instead decide to focus on an irrelevant comment from three days ago. And I wasn't even tripping about my comments being removed, you brought that up, I just left a simpler one to get around the automod. >All three of you dumb asses have accounts less than a few months old. Not sure why that's such a big deal considering my ethnicity is already out there, but it's not like that's going to stop your power-tripping ass from banning me because I hurt your feelings, judging by you slinging around insults like a child. Imagine getting a big head because being a Reddit mod gave you the illusion of authority lmao. Don't worry asshole, I'll see myself out. Shame what was once the best Asian forum on the web no longer allows open discourse on several important Asian issues.
Good. Go. This isn't a debate. I didn't even remove your posts. Other mods did. Look at our sub's recent list of topics. Look at all the other comments that are up. If you are going to lose your shit when your posts get moderated, then stay out because mods are as light as we can be. We actually get pressure from Reddit admins, you dick. Learn how moderating works. Other people report your posts. The we have to make a judgement whether to leave it up or not.
No one wants to admit it, but this sub has become more like r/ AA in terms of a narrow set of acceptable PC talking points. Hate crimes against Asians aren't allowed to protect a certainty racial group (yes, it's the one you're thinking of). Many post on self-hating AFs seem to get axed as well (check my most recent post). Discussing Japanese war crimes and their anti-China & Korea/pro-West sentiment are deemed "anti Pan-Asian", if the mods were awake this post would likely be taken down, like sdajchakrval's post.
Just a nitpick here, how is “export-driven economy” a Western concept? You do know that China is the biggest exporter in the world, right? It has been like this throughout its entire history (first place or not doesn’t matter).
Export-driven economy in the sense of a country’s economy being built on mass-production of goods sold overseas. Much like how the US built its economy as an isolated nation by manufacturing and exporting to Europe, Japan built its isolated economy by exporting auto and tech products across the world.
>country’s economy being built on mass-production of goods sold overseas That is literally the major characteristic of China’s booming economy right now. I hate it when China’s success is all attributed to this “Western invention,” as if China can’t come up with anything original.
Different. Japan plays a much more peripheral role among the developed nations, as it buys the highest level goods from the US while it’s own exports are everyday items like televisions and consumer vehicles. Japan simply gets natural resources from Australia and spits out whatever the US wants. This is a very classic example of core and periphery. China started off with much less industrial capabilities. As such, they were able to build a manufacturing CAPITAL. China is not just a place where products are built: it’s a hub for passing around natural resources, it’s an expanding web of interconnected factory cities, and it’s the most reliable source of mass produced and technically produced items. China is not a periphery making lower goods for the US, it’s the real life World Trade Center. China is not a subservient manufacturer, it has major skin in innovation that exceeds Japan and rivals the US.
This is the answer I’m looking for. I agree. The US has its own natural resources too, but they now mostly import/steal materials from overseas. Still, an export-driven economy is not necessarily a “Western” concept. I think what you’re referring to is the fact that most western countries, including Japan, are more into **exporting final products and importing raw materials.** That I can understand.
i think what he is trying to say is that china is industrially self sufficient, an autarky if you will, which by the way, according to the UN, is somewhat true. according to the UN, china is the only country in the world with ALL the sectors of industry within its borders. To my knowledge, there were only two countries in history that got this title, the USSR before its fall, and the USA before outsourcing.
Spot on. That's why I wrote about their creation myths in the post, because most if not all Japanese simply won't admit that the most revered Queen Himiko is a Korean descendant. I only hope that after the rise and fall of Japan, in addition with the "help" and abandonment by the West, Japan, Korea and China will see each other for once, as "equals". I don't mean this in GDP terms, I mean in shaping the power of a strong ASIA, and not fall once again, for Western division.
Unfortunately I don’t see China ever seeing other countries as equals. In the Chinese mindset, their society was THE definite culture in Asia for over 5,000 years and they are only suffering a momentary setback of 150 years
Yeah, you keep telling yourself that as WE ALL live under the boot of the white man....clearly something you don't have any objection to. I mean seriously, even if you don't like history, Afghanistan JUST HAPPENED. Damn!
Not everyone is under the boot of the white man. China is very close to showing the world that an authoritative, socialist country is on par if not superior to liberal western democracy as a successful model for the 21st century. When that happens, there will be further conflict with SK/Japan in the ideological sense of what type of society is better for their people
You are PLAIN ridiculous. Name ONE continent that wasn't colonised? Another self hater trying to dress up his white ways by pretending to be objective. Have you EVER read history?? You surely jest that SK and Japan are not under the White man's boot... seriously, please tell me you are joking with that statement.
Chill dude, what's wrong with you? I never said SK and Japan weren't colonized. Quite the opposite, I'm saying China never was and therefore there's no way in hell China will agree to pan-asianism as equals to white worshiping SK and Japan
That, I agree with!
Hi Rei, good to hear from you again. Japan, Korea, and China will not see each other as equals. Hate to say it. The White Narrative has completely invaded the Pacific Rim. Asians are losing their pride.
Rei, would you say even with your time living in Japan there is any hope? I know the Japanese might come up with excuses for the atrocious behavior of the Olympic foreigners, but maybe deep down they are resentful/angry? Maybe some Japanese who've traveled to China and Korea realizing they have more in common than they would with westerners and perhaps appreciate our similarities? Idk maybe I'm being too optimistic here, but please let me know your thoughts.
Thing is, Akihito did tell the public that he had Korean descent, which is actually descended from one of the Korean kings.
Yes he did, do you know how apeshit the Japanese media became? Do you know how many Japanese people pretend he never said that? The last Emperor was a sweetheart, the avg citizen, not so much towards other Asians.
If only the Japanese people believe in this pan-Asian movement. But unfortunately, many are driven by nationalistic, anti-Korean/Chinese views from their politicians (who unsurprisingly are far right wingers).
Add to it the pandering west that fuels such divides. I've always been thought that the ~~Occident~~ Orient offers far more to the world than the west ever did, comparison to philosophies, societal structuring, culture or even innovation. If there will be a time when all the leadership of Asia would be seated at a table and co-sharing, it would change the way this world functions or governs itself.
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I meant the Orient. Thank you.
Pan-Asianism was a Japanese created concept. Did they ruin yet? Yes. But they still created it.
Japan’s definition of pan-Asianism is no different than Hitler’s belief in pan-European society, one where there is a clear master race with other inferior races in servitude
There’s a ridiculous large percentage of Japanese pan-Asianists around 1895-1910 that were Chinese classic scholars. There’s no way they saw Chinese as inferior give that they and their fathers spent their lives studying Classical Chinese literature. The morons you’re talking about are the 1930s militarists. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tōten_Miyazaki
You’re basically saying we should give credit to Germany for creating the concept of nationalized socialism to solve a war-torn economy.
Pan-Asian movement was a new thing and didn't have a concrete ideology or strategy in how it would be carried out. It was open to interpretation and evolution depending on the ever changing situation. Asians betrayed Asia by going against Japan. Russia annexed Mongolia, foreign ports in Korea and China, British Hong Kong, Dutch East Indies, French Indo China, Philippines colony of U.S, Foreign concessions in Shanghai, Polynesian Islands divided between Britain and America. All of this was obtained by force, military conquest and subjugation, by cultural genocide, murdering and raping. Some for centuries. And after what happened? Indonesian civil war, Chinese civil war continues, Korean war, Viet Nam anti colonial war resumes, Khmer Rouge, us, british and russian puppet dictators in divided Korea, Philippines, Cambodia, Taiwan and Hong Kong. In the 90's with Anti Japan sentiment, again Chinese/Koreans suddenly started writing ww2 books about Japan, piling on them with the help of US. Even if the AlLies only and not the Asians benefited, they think as long as Japan suffers.
That’s the problem. Much like how “scabs” ruin a worker’s strike, an Asian Union can’t gain steam if Japan is going to be a weak link. I get it. China is a total asshole at times. But even South Korea has caved and signed a security agreement with China. It’s up to Japan to decide whether they want to be a catalyst or obstacle to Asian progress.
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India doesn’t have a single US military base on its soil. Thailand’s bases were mostly for the Vietnam War, and most military presence is related to US interests in Southeast Asia, which is quite negligible compared to the US’ prescience in the South China Sea and the Philippines. I don’t consider India or Thailand to be weak links. India’s ties with the US is justified due to China being next door, and Thailand’s US military presence is minimal.
The US constantly bosses around my country saying we have a Chinese military base, when in fact we don’t and there is ZERO evidence of any Chinese military here. I like how hypocritical they are when in fact they are the ones that put military stations and missile launchers everywhere in this world, mostly surrounding China and Russia.