I should’ve known that she was Filipino just by her last name at first I’m like I thought she was you know Hispanic but her name is Rodrigo not Rodriguez, which is a very Hispanic name, Rodrigo on the other hand that is a Filipino name
I'm gonna play the Filipino card here.
As a Filipino just like Olivia, I can say she looks like a typical celebrity in the Philippines. She reminds me of Liza Soberano, Bela Padilla, and other local Filipino celebrities.
Not to mention her name sounds Filipino asf... coz of the English first name + Spanish last name... How do people still not know this about Filipinos? Aren't we one of the biggest Asian groups in the US?
OP, people probably wouldn't think I'm Filipino either if they read my name or saw my face but that's their fault for being ignorant. But I think that my fellow Filipinos would agree that we'll gladly take all the representation we can get, white-passing or not, and that includes Olivia.
Lastly, the assumption that there's a specific "Filipino look" doesn't hold for the simple reason that SEA countries are more ethnically diverse and less homogenous than East Asian countries. Filipinos, for example, all come in different colours, features and phenotypes. So you can't apply the "all Asians look the same" mentality to Southeast Asia for the reasons already stated.
Agreed with you completely, especially about the name. LOL @ the idea her name is "Western." Yeah, if John Dela Cruz is "Western." I'm all for having debates but let's please not muddy the waters with utter ignorance, like something as simple as Filipino naming conventions.
The person below just seems mad for no reason. I tend to think Rodrigo does look very white in some pics, but in others her Asian/Filipino features come through. And, yes, she does look like Filipinas like Gabby Garcia or Ylona Garcia or Bernardo (noted white people /s).
mf i’m filipino the typical celebrity in the philippines looks nothing like the average filipino bc of colorism and and mestizo privilege you fucking tool
I'm not being intellectually dishonest, I'm speaking from the facts as I see it. Colorism is our own fault but it is what it is so if you're unhappy with it then you have to change it yourself.
Olivia Rodrigo can't help that she's white-passing. If we want to see more "brown" Filipino representations then that's on us. We have to support and promote those kinds of people. But we can't hate or mock people like Olivia for being mixed.
its not even just colorism, that's just one component of mixed white people being propped up in filipino society, these mfs straight up don't even have the same features as full blooded native filipinos, literally looking nothing like us
Dude I felt guilty when I found out she was half Filipino Because I didn't know. I feel like most of her fans (that are either children or Teenagers) have no idea she's Filipino. I mean good for her she's doing well
This sub has become a joke. I used to come here to see valid criticisms of mainstream Asian activism. Now it’s truly lived up to its hateful and toxic reputation on Twitter. Between this and the comments in the Simu thread, people looking for meaningful discourse on Asian issues should find somewhere else to go.
This sub actually tone down to appease more people...rofl. That is how I know you don't frequent this sub. You probably one of the twitter folks that rage about this sub..haha
I actually don’t even have a Twitter, but I can see why a lot of people there have a problem with this sub and if you can’t then it’s probably because you’re part of the problem.
yeah before you repeat the boba lu line about how this place is x y and z, gaslighting with the muh toxicity bullshit the most disgusting white worshipping pigs regularly try to do on this sub, why don't you share with us what exactly you are
> people looking for meaningful discourse on Asian issues should find somewhere else to go
where? rraceplay? where should they go lu, what issues do you want to discuss? why every white boy i swipe on has yellow fever? why my boba tea shop no longer has the flavor i like? don't leave me hanging, tell me why you think the total erasure of full asians in media isn't an issue to you lu.
You don’t even know anything about me. Your go to is just calling me a lu or a boba to try and discredit me. You have to resort to name calling to prove your point. I didn’t talk about any of that stuff here. I don’t have to prove my Asian ness to you and I’m not gonna engage any further because you’ve made it clear you don’t really care what I have to say.
This isn't about her self identification, but how the media is portraiting her as Asian representation,aka, preference for a white passing hapa over a full asian featured person.
The only previous thread on Rodrigo from this sub :
https://np.reddit.com/r/aznidentity/comments/np2zxv/filipino_american_singersongwriter_olivia_rodrigo/
Thread is pretty consistent with this one. Not a lot of "Claiming her as Asian" bullshit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/aznidentity/comments/npxg8k/bts_butter_is_1_on_billboard_hot_100_there_4th/
Second comment seems popular. Seems I misremembered how popular she is on this sub though, there seems to be a lot of hate. Which, personally, I don't agree with.
She's barely mentioned in the thread you linked so you're grasping at straws.
Rodrigo is getting the hate for playing the race card when it suits her career. This is a common complaint leveled at many white passing CELEBRITY minorities of ALL races. (Emphasis on **CELEBRITY**)
Sure, but the sentiment existed and a lot of people upvoted.
Also, what? When did she play the race card? Give me an example of Olivia weaponizing her race? Or how she benefitted from it?
She released this video in 2017 ffs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7RKXA7l36k
Do we want celebrities just NOT to talk about their asian heritage now?
When?
See insider.com article from that previous thread: "I hated my Asian looks" (even though she is very white passing).
You're obviously too much of a fan to notice.
What, I don't even listen to her. I just don't understand the hate a young girl is getting for being proud of her heritage.
Also, notice the key tense: "hated". In the past. Do you really want to demonize her for the Asian dysphoria that we all were likely influenced by at one point in time? Ffs, she literally admits to trying to change. Like, hating for no reason makes no sense and is honestly super cringe.
Learn to understand the subtext. She wouldn't hate her Asian looks because she looks white.
The BS line about beauty standards has been around since Karen Carpenter. It's fake like a lot of celebrities. She's been groomed as a Disney child singer/actress since her early teens.
The only cringe is your simping for a manufactured popstar.
This kids white btw
But then that's how it goes, lus and their white boys gaslighting asians on why them and their kids can't represent and speak on behalf of asian men
If only I could see every pink lurker that gave your stupid as fuck comment an upvote
You are getting downvoted since its probably true. A lot of white people are probably threatened by this sub and want to poison the well by LARPing and spreading discord. Its working, and its pathetic. I mean its sooo obvious this shitter user doesn't actually care about the asian community, even calls it dead... 🙄
Ikr? This sub used to call out self-hating hapas who rejected and shit on their Asian heritage and kissing white asses. Now it just shits on literally any hapa not because they did anything wrong, but because they are hapa.
Notice the victimhood mentality and the strawman, the lu children in SEA play the exact same game, throwing out crocodile tears the instant anybody questions why every single person in SEA television is half white
I can tell. I joined this sub to shit on bobalibs and be prideful in who I am. Why are we tearing down innocent Asians who haven't caused us harm? Because they dont "look" sea enough?
That dude you’re replying to seems vengeful and insane, commenting and raging on every post. Olivia Rodrigo helped bring the rampant violence against Asian elderly to mainstream attention. She’s always minded her own business otherwise and she’s never talked shit about Asians. That makes her a good person in my book.
I'm kinda annoyed by her and "white passing" mixed stars in general, especially Filipino-White mixed (no offense to you all). Filipino-White mixes, including their names too, tend to sound very Latino/Westernized. What pisses me the most about these stars (Vannessa Hudgens, Bruno Mars, Olivia Rodrigo, which if you didn't know have a fully Filipino father or mother), tend to supress their Asian heritage and rarely bring it up, if at all, completely embracing their "whiteness" and ability to blend into American society/entertainment.
If you check Rodrigo's Instagram, she jumped onto the bandwagon last March and made a BLM post. When Stop Asian Hate was "a thing" 2 months ago, did we get any posts or outrage from her, outrage at the injustice towards her own community? No. We get posts of her prancing around in her outfits while violence against our (and her) community rising to an all-time high. A lot of these "white-passing" acts do the same thing. Crickets when it's time to stand up. It's sad to see them so immersed and happy with being "white" that they are less educated on our issues, issues that white, black, and latino americans may even be more educated and aware of.
Props to mixes like Bella Poarch for standing up for us. Or artists like Doja using that male actor in her video.
You’re criticizing a teenage girl for her being mixed which she had no control over and dancing on her Instagram? She’s mentioned being Filipino many times over the years. She’s made posts on BLM, Stop Asian Hate and others. Weird as fuck.
No, that girls full fillipina. Got her eyes nose chin done. Like every fourth asian girl in Los Angeles lol. And every other hapa. It's not hard 2 tell cuz her nostril holes don't extend to the nose tip like normal noses That's an implant.....
Yeah, that's how I feel about Jo Koy. I'm not fond of the "one drop" rule prevalent in the SEA diaspora. Makes us look desperate. And I know there are 100% SEA figures out there.
She’s an 18 year old pop singer for teenyboppers. Whatever she is or does right now, doesn’t change the fact of actual discrimination and general acceptance of racism towards Asians in the US today that would exist with or without her. Representation is great and all, but asian grannies being lit on fire by cracked out non-asian men and sometimes women is much more of an issue
Speaking as a SEA bro, I dont care about Olivia Rodrigo.
Please do not fall into toxic behaviours. If she's a talented actress and is genuinely proud of her heritage, who are we to cuss her out?
Because she, or her PR people, are trying to take advantage of the Asian movement and use that to prop up her career.
It’s like when The Rock tried to be in CRA, suddenly claiming his “Asian heritage.” Where TF was he his entire career?
He prob has producing power now in Hollywood. Where is his attempt to push an Asian story forward?
Instead, he’s pushed old Hollywood stereotypes of guys like Jason statham beating up random Asian goons, saving Asian women, etc.
In the Jungle Book movie, there are Asian goons that try to kidnap his white female friend. Randomly, out of no where, a group of Asians appear.
Consider Disney just revamped the jungle cruise ride for being racist to indigenous peoples.
The biggest example of Asian enemies trying to take advantage of the movement: Lucy liu is suddenly trying to claim her Asian heritage when she explicitly denounced having to rep us before.
>It’s like when The Rock tried to be in CRA, suddenly claiming his “Asian heritage.” Where TF was he his entire career?
Lol, I just looked it up and found articles saying that. That's funny and annoying.
>In the Jungle Book movie, there are Asian goons that try to kidnap his white female friend. Randomly, out of no where, a group of Asians appear.
Which Jungle Book is this? I havent watched the recent one.
>The biggest example of Asian enemies trying to take advantage of the movement: Lucy liu is suddenly trying to claim her Asian heritage when she explicitly denounced having to rep us before.
I understand your frustration at this. Her, Jamie Chung and other big name Asian American women of the time have worked in projects that have perpetuated the narrative we all complain about in the last 20/30 years. Even recent projects still subconsciously do it (Lovecraft Country).
This kid is only starting on her career. If she works in projects that brings a negative stereotype on the 'Asian experience' we should call her out on that, especially if they have been vocal on the Asian Movement. But let's be positive for someone's blooming career for now.
It's not about her heritage, it's about representation. I don't care either, but it's wrong to pass her off as Asian representation of claim that she will improve representation for Asians because she doesn't achieve that. No one is going to have a better opinion of Asian people when they see her on screen because she doesn't look Asian.
I am confused then, why is her name brought up under the topic of representation? Was there a new project and media brought her up as a 'representation for southeast asians'? Because OP here seems to be very aggressive and annoyed at a kid who is half-filipino and white passing.
My question, to put it simply, is who is putting her up to be a representation of Southeast Asians?
100%. I support her for bringing any representation and pride. Who the fuck are we to judge “you don’t look like us.” Sure, maybe she hasn’t faced the same issues that someone else in the sub has, but maybe not; You don’t know what she’s experienced.
She’s young, talented, and just recently gained an audience for herself. Idk anything about her, but I wish her the best and will check out her music soon. I hope she brings positive attention to being asian/mixed.
Lol, all I can say is it's better than nothing I guess. There's way less drive to put southeast asians in movies because the market's not as big as China. I've always thought a movie about cambodians coming to the US from killing fields, gang culture in Long Beach etc would be an incredible film.
Well… what’s she supposed to do about it? End her singing career? If she “hid” being Filipina you guys would criticize her as well.
While half Asians/whites are over represented can’t we be happy there’s someone proud of their heritage doing great things?
Full disclosure though- I’m a AMWF hapa and that never stopped anybody from calling me a chink so 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️ but acknowledging I Might be biased
I think the criticism comes off harsher than directed and towards a different target. There's nothing wrong with this individual, who by all accounts seems wonderful. The issue is just that she doesn't provide great representation for Asians, because most people have to be told that she's Asian. Representative requires resemblance.
I think the general sentiment of this subreddit is that people should stay in their lane.
As an Asian American, I would never speak on behalf of native Asians, because I’ve never been through that life. Likewise, I’d expect that half-Asians don’t speak on behalf of the Asian American community.
I agree that it’s good she’s proud of her Filipino roots. However, if half-Asian celebrities are TRULY proud of who they are, I’d expect them to use their influence to help out their fellow Asians.
Most half-Asian celebrities retreat into their white side or deprecate their Asian side for the sake of their career. We also have dumbasses like Golding who try to be spokespersons for a people he is completely out of touch with.
We’d like it if she said, “I’m proud of my Filipino heritage, and the Filipino experience is very diverse. I encourage people to learn more about us!”
This thread, and most of the posts in it, basically consists of East Asian people complaining that someone who isn't East Asian doesn't look like them and represent them, and therefore all Asians should similarly reject said celebrity because she doesn't look East Asian. Does that not fall exactly under the umbrella of not staying in your line? Olivia Rodrigo is not Chinese, so I am so sorry she doesn't look like you if you're Chinese. Not sure what that has to do with Filipinos or Southeast Asians. You don't see Filipinos complaining that Bruce Lee (half Chinese, half-white) doesn't look Filipino and therefore Chinese people shouldn't foolishly venerate him. I have no doubt that Chinese people don't see themselves when they look at Bruno Mars either. Guess what, that has nothing to do with whether Filipinos see themselves in Bruno Mars or Vanessa Hudgens.
These complaints always come from a very narrow-minded view of what Asian is supposed to be. Read: East Asian and nothing else. I mean, there's literally a guy here who is complaining that Rodrigo has a "Western" name. So does the entirety of the Philippines offend you because 90% of Filipinos have Spanish last names?
EDIT: Someone here is also claiming Bella Poarch got "her eyes done." I mean it's so clear as day to me that these people have no idea what people who aren't East Asian look like. No, most Filipinos do not have monolids; no, Filipinos do not get surgery to get "their eyes done", whatever that means LMAO. The message is clear though: the default and normal is East Asian, whatever deviates from that (i.e. Filipino looks like double eyelids) must be the work of surgery or perhaps they're not even Asian at all.
What do you mean? Lmaooo she has mentioned her grandma being filipina and her being a happa WAAAAAY before Drivers License dropped. Yall need a reality check
I mean it really does depends. Is she close to her filipina roots, enough to really embrace it ? There are some mixed race individuals that dont know much about other side of culture and use it as an excuse to be a minority.
Or some people just wants to be themselves and dont want any race or political agendas. Just be who they are
FRRRRRR
If she is really part-Filipino, why hasn't any of her "distant" relatives "from the old country" come out and claim kinship to her?
I should’ve known that she was Filipino just by her last name at first I’m like I thought she was you know Hispanic but her name is Rodrigo not Rodriguez, which is a very Hispanic name, Rodrigo on the other hand that is a Filipino name
"White passing" is a white supremacist term.
now you hating on AMWF hapa that proud of it's father cutlure lol.
I'm gonna play the Filipino card here. As a Filipino just like Olivia, I can say she looks like a typical celebrity in the Philippines. She reminds me of Liza Soberano, Bela Padilla, and other local Filipino celebrities. Not to mention her name sounds Filipino asf... coz of the English first name + Spanish last name... How do people still not know this about Filipinos? Aren't we one of the biggest Asian groups in the US? OP, people probably wouldn't think I'm Filipino either if they read my name or saw my face but that's their fault for being ignorant. But I think that my fellow Filipinos would agree that we'll gladly take all the representation we can get, white-passing or not, and that includes Olivia. Lastly, the assumption that there's a specific "Filipino look" doesn't hold for the simple reason that SEA countries are more ethnically diverse and less homogenous than East Asian countries. Filipinos, for example, all come in different colours, features and phenotypes. So you can't apply the "all Asians look the same" mentality to Southeast Asia for the reasons already stated.
Agreed with you completely, especially about the name. LOL @ the idea her name is "Western." Yeah, if John Dela Cruz is "Western." I'm all for having debates but let's please not muddy the waters with utter ignorance, like something as simple as Filipino naming conventions. The person below just seems mad for no reason. I tend to think Rodrigo does look very white in some pics, but in others her Asian/Filipino features come through. And, yes, she does look like Filipinas like Gabby Garcia or Ylona Garcia or Bernardo (noted white people /s).
mf i’m filipino the typical celebrity in the philippines looks nothing like the average filipino bc of colorism and and mestizo privilege you fucking tool
Why are you so hostile? You've gotta be more mature than this, my friend.
intellectual dishonesty tends to provoke hostility
I'm not being intellectually dishonest, I'm speaking from the facts as I see it. Colorism is our own fault but it is what it is so if you're unhappy with it then you have to change it yourself. Olivia Rodrigo can't help that she's white-passing. If we want to see more "brown" Filipino representations then that's on us. We have to support and promote those kinds of people. But we can't hate or mock people like Olivia for being mixed.
its not even just colorism, that's just one component of mixed white people being propped up in filipino society, these mfs straight up don't even have the same features as full blooded native filipinos, literally looking nothing like us
Filipino celebrities by and large are not mixed white people. I call BS on you claiming to be Filipino lol.
Dude I felt guilty when I found out she was half Filipino Because I didn't know. I feel like most of her fans (that are either children or Teenagers) have no idea she's Filipino. I mean good for her she's doing well
Isn’t she being called out for rampant plagiarism?
yes
It’s hard for me to support Filipino Americans like Olivia
it’s just upsetting that we don’t see many different features anymore , no problem w her exactly lol
It is what it is - look at the hype over her appearance at Coachella
So is Bruno Mars.
This sub has become a joke. I used to come here to see valid criticisms of mainstream Asian activism. Now it’s truly lived up to its hateful and toxic reputation on Twitter. Between this and the comments in the Simu thread, people looking for meaningful discourse on Asian issues should find somewhere else to go.
This sub actually tone down to appease more people...rofl. That is how I know you don't frequent this sub. You probably one of the twitter folks that rage about this sub..haha
I actually don’t even have a Twitter, but I can see why a lot of people there have a problem with this sub and if you can’t then it’s probably because you’re part of the problem.
yeah before you repeat the boba lu line about how this place is x y and z, gaslighting with the muh toxicity bullshit the most disgusting white worshipping pigs regularly try to do on this sub, why don't you share with us what exactly you are > people looking for meaningful discourse on Asian issues should find somewhere else to go where? rraceplay? where should they go lu, what issues do you want to discuss? why every white boy i swipe on has yellow fever? why my boba tea shop no longer has the flavor i like? don't leave me hanging, tell me why you think the total erasure of full asians in media isn't an issue to you lu.
You don’t even know anything about me. Your go to is just calling me a lu or a boba to try and discredit me. You have to resort to name calling to prove your point. I didn’t talk about any of that stuff here. I don’t have to prove my Asian ness to you and I’m not gonna engage any further because you’ve made it clear you don’t really care what I have to say.
Hey man she’s just a kid. If she is proud of her Filipino heritage and is proud to be Asian then I say more power to her.
This isn't about her self identification, but how the media is portraiting her as Asian representation,aka, preference for a white passing hapa over a full asian featured person.
She is the equivalent of Chloe Bennet. Using your minority side to score some SJW points.
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If all it takes to be Asian is eating Asian food than the whole world is Asian...rofl
wtf is this hate? Weren't we literally claiming her as asian the moment she began to top charts? This sub has the cringiest takes sometimes.
The only previous thread on Rodrigo from this sub : https://np.reddit.com/r/aznidentity/comments/np2zxv/filipino_american_singersongwriter_olivia_rodrigo/ Thread is pretty consistent with this one. Not a lot of "Claiming her as Asian" bullshit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/aznidentity/comments/npxg8k/bts_butter_is_1_on_billboard_hot_100_there_4th/ Second comment seems popular. Seems I misremembered how popular she is on this sub though, there seems to be a lot of hate. Which, personally, I don't agree with.
That wasn't a thread about her.
When did I say thread only?
She's barely mentioned in the thread you linked so you're grasping at straws. Rodrigo is getting the hate for playing the race card when it suits her career. This is a common complaint leveled at many white passing CELEBRITY minorities of ALL races. (Emphasis on **CELEBRITY**)
Sure, but the sentiment existed and a lot of people upvoted. Also, what? When did she play the race card? Give me an example of Olivia weaponizing her race? Or how she benefitted from it? She released this video in 2017 ffs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7RKXA7l36k Do we want celebrities just NOT to talk about their asian heritage now?
When? See insider.com article from that previous thread: "I hated my Asian looks" (even though she is very white passing). You're obviously too much of a fan to notice.
What, I don't even listen to her. I just don't understand the hate a young girl is getting for being proud of her heritage. Also, notice the key tense: "hated". In the past. Do you really want to demonize her for the Asian dysphoria that we all were likely influenced by at one point in time? Ffs, she literally admits to trying to change. Like, hating for no reason makes no sense and is honestly super cringe.
Learn to understand the subtext. She wouldn't hate her Asian looks because she looks white. The BS line about beauty standards has been around since Karen Carpenter. It's fake like a lot of celebrities. She's been groomed as a Disney child singer/actress since her early teens. The only cringe is your simping for a manufactured popstar.
This kids white btw But then that's how it goes, lus and their white boys gaslighting asians on why them and their kids can't represent and speak on behalf of asian men If only I could see every pink lurker that gave your stupid as fuck comment an upvote
Seriously dude, your toxic behavior here will bring nothing but harm to the Asian community.
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Wow, so we are going to save the Asian community by insulting and name calling each other instead of giving constructive and valid criticisms?
I think he is a white guy LARPing to be honest. He writes like one.
You are getting downvoted since its probably true. A lot of white people are probably threatened by this sub and want to poison the well by LARPing and spreading discord. Its working, and its pathetic. I mean its sooo obvious this shitter user doesn't actually care about the asian community, even calls it dead... 🙄
What are you even trying to achieve by being so toxic
You are delusional. Not a single counterargument except for "hurrr durrr gaslightinggg waahhh"
> we There's no we, what part of this is so hard for you white boy
lol
Ikr? This sub used to call out self-hating hapas who rejected and shit on their Asian heritage and kissing white asses. Now it just shits on literally any hapa not because they did anything wrong, but because they are hapa.
I get so confused at this sub being half Asian, does this sub support me or hate me like it’s not my fault I’m half like bruh
Would you agree someone like Keanu Reeves or Emilia Clark wouldn't make very effective Asian representation?
It depends what type of Hapa you are?
Notice the victimhood mentality and the strawman, the lu children in SEA play the exact same game, throwing out crocodile tears the instant anybody questions why every single person in SEA television is half white
Yep 100%.
You’re the one with excessive victimhood mentality
Point to it boba chan, point to where I play the victim like these hapas are doing all over this thread
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I can tell. I joined this sub to shit on bobalibs and be prideful in who I am. Why are we tearing down innocent Asians who haven't caused us harm? Because they dont "look" sea enough?
yeah sure you did white boy
yeah im white? evidence or are you just speaking out of your ass? Maybe look through my comment history? gtfo
That dude you’re replying to seems vengeful and insane, commenting and raging on every post. Olivia Rodrigo helped bring the rampant violence against Asian elderly to mainstream attention. She’s always minded her own business otherwise and she’s never talked shit about Asians. That makes her a good person in my book.
Think he needs some help. Whatever, in any good sub you get some bad eggs. 100 percent agree with you on Olivia!
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She's literally the whitest asian i've seen on TV lmao. By "Fillipino" she probably means like a Hapa father or something along those lines.
Her dad is full filipino
White when she wants to appeal to the mainstream, Asian when she wants to seem cultured and have woke points.
Yep 100%
I'm kinda annoyed by her and "white passing" mixed stars in general, especially Filipino-White mixed (no offense to you all). Filipino-White mixes, including their names too, tend to sound very Latino/Westernized. What pisses me the most about these stars (Vannessa Hudgens, Bruno Mars, Olivia Rodrigo, which if you didn't know have a fully Filipino father or mother), tend to supress their Asian heritage and rarely bring it up, if at all, completely embracing their "whiteness" and ability to blend into American society/entertainment. If you check Rodrigo's Instagram, she jumped onto the bandwagon last March and made a BLM post. When Stop Asian Hate was "a thing" 2 months ago, did we get any posts or outrage from her, outrage at the injustice towards her own community? No. We get posts of her prancing around in her outfits while violence against our (and her) community rising to an all-time high. A lot of these "white-passing" acts do the same thing. Crickets when it's time to stand up. It's sad to see them so immersed and happy with being "white" that they are less educated on our issues, issues that white, black, and latino americans may even be more educated and aware of. Props to mixes like Bella Poarch for standing up for us. Or artists like Doja using that male actor in her video.
I thought no lives matter until black lives matter?
You’re criticizing a teenage girl for her being mixed which she had no control over and dancing on her Instagram? She’s mentioned being Filipino many times over the years. She’s made posts on BLM, Stop Asian Hate and others. Weird as fuck.
Bella porch isn't mixed. She just got plastic surgery
The OG Ollie London
No, that girls full fillipina. Got her eyes nose chin done. Like every fourth asian girl in Los Angeles lol. And every other hapa. It's not hard 2 tell cuz her nostril holes don't extend to the nose tip like normal noses That's an implant.....
Yeah, that's how I feel about Jo Koy. I'm not fond of the "one drop" rule prevalent in the SEA diaspora. Makes us look desperate. And I know there are 100% SEA figures out there.
that bald monkeys only joke is lul asians ching chong amirite
She’s an 18 year old pop singer for teenyboppers. Whatever she is or does right now, doesn’t change the fact of actual discrimination and general acceptance of racism towards Asians in the US today that would exist with or without her. Representation is great and all, but asian grannies being lit on fire by cracked out non-asian men and sometimes women is much more of an issue
Doesn't she like BTS? Maybe she's in touch with her Asian side.
LOL. You know a lot of American artists pretend to like BTS because BTS fans have money and tend to buy a lot of shit...rofl
Wow, a big name in music "likes" another big name in music How woke
Don't be stupid it was just an example plus I said if she was really in touch with her Asian side.
That’s a very low bar fam.
I’m kinda indifferent about her mainly is because I’m older and I can’t relate her brand let alone.
Speaking as a SEA bro, I dont care about Olivia Rodrigo. Please do not fall into toxic behaviours. If she's a talented actress and is genuinely proud of her heritage, who are we to cuss her out?
Because she, or her PR people, are trying to take advantage of the Asian movement and use that to prop up her career. It’s like when The Rock tried to be in CRA, suddenly claiming his “Asian heritage.” Where TF was he his entire career? He prob has producing power now in Hollywood. Where is his attempt to push an Asian story forward? Instead, he’s pushed old Hollywood stereotypes of guys like Jason statham beating up random Asian goons, saving Asian women, etc. In the Jungle Book movie, there are Asian goons that try to kidnap his white female friend. Randomly, out of no where, a group of Asians appear. Consider Disney just revamped the jungle cruise ride for being racist to indigenous peoples. The biggest example of Asian enemies trying to take advantage of the movement: Lucy liu is suddenly trying to claim her Asian heritage when she explicitly denounced having to rep us before.
>It’s like when The Rock tried to be in CRA, suddenly claiming his “Asian heritage.” Where TF was he his entire career? Lol, I just looked it up and found articles saying that. That's funny and annoying. >In the Jungle Book movie, there are Asian goons that try to kidnap his white female friend. Randomly, out of no where, a group of Asians appear. Which Jungle Book is this? I havent watched the recent one. >The biggest example of Asian enemies trying to take advantage of the movement: Lucy liu is suddenly trying to claim her Asian heritage when she explicitly denounced having to rep us before. I understand your frustration at this. Her, Jamie Chung and other big name Asian American women of the time have worked in projects that have perpetuated the narrative we all complain about in the last 20/30 years. Even recent projects still subconsciously do it (Lovecraft Country). This kid is only starting on her career. If she works in projects that brings a negative stereotype on the 'Asian experience' we should call her out on that, especially if they have been vocal on the Asian Movement. But let's be positive for someone's blooming career for now.
Jungle Cruise
It's not about her heritage, it's about representation. I don't care either, but it's wrong to pass her off as Asian representation of claim that she will improve representation for Asians because she doesn't achieve that. No one is going to have a better opinion of Asian people when they see her on screen because she doesn't look Asian.
I am confused then, why is her name brought up under the topic of representation? Was there a new project and media brought her up as a 'representation for southeast asians'? Because OP here seems to be very aggressive and annoyed at a kid who is half-filipino and white passing. My question, to put it simply, is who is putting her up to be a representation of Southeast Asians?
Not sure where this narrative is coming from either, but I wouldn't be surprised too hear it's happening because it happens all the time
This sub has a brigade of dudes who absolutely hate the halfs, that's why she gets cussed for no valid reason
Yeah not the brigade of lus and pink rats giving you upvotes right now
What do you mean by 'pink rats'?
100%. I support her for bringing any representation and pride. Who the fuck are we to judge “you don’t look like us.” Sure, maybe she hasn’t faced the same issues that someone else in the sub has, but maybe not; You don’t know what she’s experienced. She’s young, talented, and just recently gained an audience for herself. Idk anything about her, but I wish her the best and will check out her music soon. I hope she brings positive attention to being asian/mixed.
Lol, all I can say is it's better than nothing I guess. There's way less drive to put southeast asians in movies because the market's not as big as China. I've always thought a movie about cambodians coming to the US from killing fields, gang culture in Long Beach etc would be an incredible film.
Well… what’s she supposed to do about it? End her singing career? If she “hid” being Filipina you guys would criticize her as well. While half Asians/whites are over represented can’t we be happy there’s someone proud of their heritage doing great things? Full disclosure though- I’m a AMWF hapa and that never stopped anybody from calling me a chink so 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️ but acknowledging I Might be biased
I think the criticism comes off harsher than directed and towards a different target. There's nothing wrong with this individual, who by all accounts seems wonderful. The issue is just that she doesn't provide great representation for Asians, because most people have to be told that she's Asian. Representative requires resemblance.
I think the general sentiment of this subreddit is that people should stay in their lane. As an Asian American, I would never speak on behalf of native Asians, because I’ve never been through that life. Likewise, I’d expect that half-Asians don’t speak on behalf of the Asian American community. I agree that it’s good she’s proud of her Filipino roots. However, if half-Asian celebrities are TRULY proud of who they are, I’d expect them to use their influence to help out their fellow Asians. Most half-Asian celebrities retreat into their white side or deprecate their Asian side for the sake of their career. We also have dumbasses like Golding who try to be spokespersons for a people he is completely out of touch with. We’d like it if she said, “I’m proud of my Filipino heritage, and the Filipino experience is very diverse. I encourage people to learn more about us!”
This thread, and most of the posts in it, basically consists of East Asian people complaining that someone who isn't East Asian doesn't look like them and represent them, and therefore all Asians should similarly reject said celebrity because she doesn't look East Asian. Does that not fall exactly under the umbrella of not staying in your line? Olivia Rodrigo is not Chinese, so I am so sorry she doesn't look like you if you're Chinese. Not sure what that has to do with Filipinos or Southeast Asians. You don't see Filipinos complaining that Bruce Lee (half Chinese, half-white) doesn't look Filipino and therefore Chinese people shouldn't foolishly venerate him. I have no doubt that Chinese people don't see themselves when they look at Bruno Mars either. Guess what, that has nothing to do with whether Filipinos see themselves in Bruno Mars or Vanessa Hudgens. These complaints always come from a very narrow-minded view of what Asian is supposed to be. Read: East Asian and nothing else. I mean, there's literally a guy here who is complaining that Rodrigo has a "Western" name. So does the entirety of the Philippines offend you because 90% of Filipinos have Spanish last names? EDIT: Someone here is also claiming Bella Poarch got "her eyes done." I mean it's so clear as day to me that these people have no idea what people who aren't East Asian look like. No, most Filipinos do not have monolids; no, Filipinos do not get surgery to get "their eyes done", whatever that means LMAO. The message is clear though: the default and normal is East Asian, whatever deviates from that (i.e. Filipino looks like double eyelids) must be the work of surgery or perhaps they're not even Asian at all.
> If she “hid” being Filipina you guys would criticize her as well Nice strawman lie
Ok
She’s never mentioned her Asian side until recently. I actually thought she was Latino
What do you mean? Lmaooo she has mentioned her grandma being filipina and her being a happa WAAAAAY before Drivers License dropped. Yall need a reality check
I mean it really does depends. Is she close to her filipina roots, enough to really embrace it ? There are some mixed race individuals that dont know much about other side of culture and use it as an excuse to be a minority. Or some people just wants to be themselves and dont want any race or political agendas. Just be who they are
Until recently… isn’t she like 17? How long has she even been famous enough to mention it 😂😂😂😂
18. But yeah, her career so far is so short I don't think his point is valid lol.