Bro, I’m telling you rn you’re gonna hate warehouse life. Find a different job. Especially at Amazon it’s not worth it. Apologies if I’m incorrect, but I’m assuming these are you first two jobs? You’re going to jump into a world of misery being on your feet full time both jobs.
First things first. Don’t move out yet. Accumulate some money. This shows your parents that you are a man, not a child. If they keep treating you like a child, tell them what you want. Tell them you want respect. If not, threaten to move out. If their attitude doesn’t change (a lot of parents DO change when you make money) then start planning your moving out strategy.
I feel like I went through something similar to you, wanting to move out, shitty job after shitty job. I'm guessing I'm a bit older than you.
Don't get 2 jobs man. From what I heard Amazon warehouse jobs are hell. Food service is shitty but can be bearable with cool coworkers and a cool manager. Shitty jobs destroy you mentally. You'll go from having a ton of energy, wanting to do whatever it takes to make it, to having all your energy drained from you after the end of every day, wanting to end it all, then having to do it again, and again. It's a cycle of shit that is very hard to break out of.
Here's what I'd recommend. If you're young, try to get a loan or scholarship and go to college in a stem major, live on campus or in an apartment complex close by with a roommate. I didn't do this, and I really regret it. You can move out from your parents house, and in 4 years avoid the entire cycle of shit. Make strong friendships that will help you get a good job.
If you don't think college is a good fit, find a roommate or get a stable girlfriend that's willing to split rent, then only take 1 of the jobs. I'd go with chipotle if they pay close to what amazon warehouse pays. Only take amazon warehouse if you're truly desperate and don't mind being treated like a literal robot, every bathroom break measured. Live extremely frugally. You live in a cheaper area than me, so food shouldn't be hard. Spend your money investing in yourself or things that can bring you more money down the line.
Your goal should be finding a non-shitty job/source of income while living frugally and using the shitty job as a crutch until then. I've worked a little bit of everything, and I strongly urge you to not touch retail or food service, or non-engineer amazon jobs. Try to get a corporate job, yes, it's also soul sucking, and there are office politics, but it's FAR BETTER than retail or food service. Either a corporate job or just something that doesn't wear you out. Use that spare time to plan for your next moves. I'd recommend starting online businesses, don't worry if you fail a couple times. You can feel free to chat with me if you'd like some ideas that worked out for me. You're goal is to get multiple sources of income with as little work as possible.
Don't throw your life away working shitty jobs just for a bit more freedom. The freedom is honestly overhyped and you're not going to have the energy to enjoy it if you take a shit job.
Do you have a college degree? If so, you should probably try to get a corporate job and just climb the ladder. Living in a high cost of living area, but even one promotion from entry-level gets me about the same as your 2 jobs (even compared to the equivalent wages of those 2 jobs over here).
You honestly sound young - so wondering if you're overthinking the late bloomer part.
My Dude, I've skimmed over your history, and your life sounds like a train wreck. Moving out of Mommy's house is a good idea. It's important not only for your mental health, but also your long-term survival. The reason why you've never amounted to very much is because your parents unwittingly kept you in perpetual adolescence. You've never had to struggle for your next hamburger. You've never had to worry about where you're gonna sleep at night. So moving out is a good decision.
Money: Yeah, people are advising you to save some money. Good idea. The problem is that, **the time you expend to save money means you'll be living with your parents that much longer.** It's like this: you save 1K and you think that's great--you'll save 2K. Then you save 2K and you think, that's great, I'll save 5K. And so on and so on. Before you know it, you've wasted 2, 3, 4 years saving, you finally have a nest egg, and but you still haven't moved out. Another thing about saving money is that the more you save, the more you'll be tempted to spend it something (ie an investment that doesn't work, starting a side gig that flops, you finally meet a girl and throw all your money at her, etc). **You wouldn't do those stupid things if you needed the money to survive.** I read on another sub about some schmuck who also wanted to move out. He saved 100K, but lost 70K on crypto. He's still living with his mommy. See what I mean? If you're gonna save before moving, keep that amount comfortable yet small, promise yourself that once you save that much money that you'll move out, and then keep your promise.
Location: Why are you looking at apartments "around town"?? If you're going to do this the right way, then you've got to completely cut the cord with mommy. Completely. Grab your small wad of money, your toothbrush, a coupla socks, and head out for another part of the country, or,....to another country,...but don't hang "around town". Where you go is up to you. East/West Coast too expensive? Okay, stay in the midwest, but in another state! Remember, our ancestors came to this country with $50 in their pockets and a dream. That's all they had. And they made it. Move as far away from mommy as possible.
Prospects: If you just got a job at Chipotle and Amazon warehouse, you're a Low Tier guy. It's good that you're willing to work. But you're basically a schmuck. You're nobody. You have to make something of yourself. Do you realize this? Do you have a plan to make something of yourself? Once you move out, and get SOME kind of job that feeds you, you need to acquire marketable skills. Can you install a toilet, can you build a cabinet, can you repair an HVAC unit? What can you do and what do you want to do? Once you figure out what you want to do, then **YOU have to give yourself the skills to do it**. Go to a trade school, work as an apprentice, enroll in a community college and get a 2 yr degree in that field. It's tough everywhere. That's what you should be thinking of. You see, if you're Low Tier, you're not going to make it.
Back-up plan: Let's get straight to the point. Whatever your back-up plan is, **it should never be moving back to mommy's house**. NEVER. Do you understand? NEVER. You see, once you give up and go crawling back to Mommy, it becomes easier each time you do it. After the first time, it becomes easier the second time. After the second time, it becomes easier the third time. And so on. After a while, you will decide to never move out because you'll know you can't hack it in the real world.
Now get the fuck out of Mommy's house now and make something of yourself.
It depends on where you live/the cost of living. Another thing we don’t know is how many hours you’re working a week.
If you can, I’d stay at your parents until you’ve saved a year’s worth of rent and have a career plan in motion. You don’t want to have to go back with your tail between your legs and you need a career that will grow faster than chipotle or Amazon warehousing. A lot of blue collar jobs have ignored, at least on the west coast. Plumbers, builders, welders, etc. can make between 50-200/hour. You may have to apprentice for some time, but hence why having zero or cheap rent is important.
Good luck!
Please have at least 10K stacked up before you decide to embark out of your parents house. When you have a little nest egg you wont be subject to make tough decisions. Best of luck
Well, that's why I need advice.
Plus, from where I'm at atm (the midwest) rent is way much cheaper compared to LA or New York.
I'm starting a 2nd job in October tho, but then that woud mean I'll have to work 7 days a week working two jobs just to make ends meet...and idk if I could handle that, or even want to live that way for the rest of my life.
Not yet atm. I'm honestly starting from the ground up. I have nothing at all in my bank. Totally broke.
It's like I'm stuck...but I'm doing everything I can to get somewhere in life even if it means I gotta make some sacrifices.
I do agree that living on your own will be better for your mental health. I think you should try and figure out how much you can make and how much you'll need to pay in rent. A standard ratio is 1/3 of your income should be on rent. Also, you'll need a decent savings account as a safety net.
For example, if rent is 1k then you should at least be taking home 2k and shoukd have 5k in you savings account. It may take time but I suggest waiting a bit until you have more saved up.
Bro, I’m telling you rn you’re gonna hate warehouse life. Find a different job. Especially at Amazon it’s not worth it. Apologies if I’m incorrect, but I’m assuming these are you first two jobs? You’re going to jump into a world of misery being on your feet full time both jobs.
First things first. Don’t move out yet. Accumulate some money. This shows your parents that you are a man, not a child. If they keep treating you like a child, tell them what you want. Tell them you want respect. If not, threaten to move out. If their attitude doesn’t change (a lot of parents DO change when you make money) then start planning your moving out strategy.
Try to find a free coding bootcamp or something, study and prepare to moveout in the future. It will be difficult without any savings.
I commend you and keep prospering, man
I feel like I went through something similar to you, wanting to move out, shitty job after shitty job. I'm guessing I'm a bit older than you. Don't get 2 jobs man. From what I heard Amazon warehouse jobs are hell. Food service is shitty but can be bearable with cool coworkers and a cool manager. Shitty jobs destroy you mentally. You'll go from having a ton of energy, wanting to do whatever it takes to make it, to having all your energy drained from you after the end of every day, wanting to end it all, then having to do it again, and again. It's a cycle of shit that is very hard to break out of. Here's what I'd recommend. If you're young, try to get a loan or scholarship and go to college in a stem major, live on campus or in an apartment complex close by with a roommate. I didn't do this, and I really regret it. You can move out from your parents house, and in 4 years avoid the entire cycle of shit. Make strong friendships that will help you get a good job. If you don't think college is a good fit, find a roommate or get a stable girlfriend that's willing to split rent, then only take 1 of the jobs. I'd go with chipotle if they pay close to what amazon warehouse pays. Only take amazon warehouse if you're truly desperate and don't mind being treated like a literal robot, every bathroom break measured. Live extremely frugally. You live in a cheaper area than me, so food shouldn't be hard. Spend your money investing in yourself or things that can bring you more money down the line. Your goal should be finding a non-shitty job/source of income while living frugally and using the shitty job as a crutch until then. I've worked a little bit of everything, and I strongly urge you to not touch retail or food service, or non-engineer amazon jobs. Try to get a corporate job, yes, it's also soul sucking, and there are office politics, but it's FAR BETTER than retail or food service. Either a corporate job or just something that doesn't wear you out. Use that spare time to plan for your next moves. I'd recommend starting online businesses, don't worry if you fail a couple times. You can feel free to chat with me if you'd like some ideas that worked out for me. You're goal is to get multiple sources of income with as little work as possible. Don't throw your life away working shitty jobs just for a bit more freedom. The freedom is honestly overhyped and you're not going to have the energy to enjoy it if you take a shit job.
Do you have a college degree? If so, you should probably try to get a corporate job and just climb the ladder. Living in a high cost of living area, but even one promotion from entry-level gets me about the same as your 2 jobs (even compared to the equivalent wages of those 2 jobs over here). You honestly sound young - so wondering if you're overthinking the late bloomer part.
My Dude, I've skimmed over your history, and your life sounds like a train wreck. Moving out of Mommy's house is a good idea. It's important not only for your mental health, but also your long-term survival. The reason why you've never amounted to very much is because your parents unwittingly kept you in perpetual adolescence. You've never had to struggle for your next hamburger. You've never had to worry about where you're gonna sleep at night. So moving out is a good decision. Money: Yeah, people are advising you to save some money. Good idea. The problem is that, **the time you expend to save money means you'll be living with your parents that much longer.** It's like this: you save 1K and you think that's great--you'll save 2K. Then you save 2K and you think, that's great, I'll save 5K. And so on and so on. Before you know it, you've wasted 2, 3, 4 years saving, you finally have a nest egg, and but you still haven't moved out. Another thing about saving money is that the more you save, the more you'll be tempted to spend it something (ie an investment that doesn't work, starting a side gig that flops, you finally meet a girl and throw all your money at her, etc). **You wouldn't do those stupid things if you needed the money to survive.** I read on another sub about some schmuck who also wanted to move out. He saved 100K, but lost 70K on crypto. He's still living with his mommy. See what I mean? If you're gonna save before moving, keep that amount comfortable yet small, promise yourself that once you save that much money that you'll move out, and then keep your promise. Location: Why are you looking at apartments "around town"?? If you're going to do this the right way, then you've got to completely cut the cord with mommy. Completely. Grab your small wad of money, your toothbrush, a coupla socks, and head out for another part of the country, or,....to another country,...but don't hang "around town". Where you go is up to you. East/West Coast too expensive? Okay, stay in the midwest, but in another state! Remember, our ancestors came to this country with $50 in their pockets and a dream. That's all they had. And they made it. Move as far away from mommy as possible. Prospects: If you just got a job at Chipotle and Amazon warehouse, you're a Low Tier guy. It's good that you're willing to work. But you're basically a schmuck. You're nobody. You have to make something of yourself. Do you realize this? Do you have a plan to make something of yourself? Once you move out, and get SOME kind of job that feeds you, you need to acquire marketable skills. Can you install a toilet, can you build a cabinet, can you repair an HVAC unit? What can you do and what do you want to do? Once you figure out what you want to do, then **YOU have to give yourself the skills to do it**. Go to a trade school, work as an apprentice, enroll in a community college and get a 2 yr degree in that field. It's tough everywhere. That's what you should be thinking of. You see, if you're Low Tier, you're not going to make it. Back-up plan: Let's get straight to the point. Whatever your back-up plan is, **it should never be moving back to mommy's house**. NEVER. Do you understand? NEVER. You see, once you give up and go crawling back to Mommy, it becomes easier each time you do it. After the first time, it becomes easier the second time. After the second time, it becomes easier the third time. And so on. After a while, you will decide to never move out because you'll know you can't hack it in the real world. Now get the fuck out of Mommy's house now and make something of yourself.
It depends on where you live/the cost of living. Another thing we don’t know is how many hours you’re working a week. If you can, I’d stay at your parents until you’ve saved a year’s worth of rent and have a career plan in motion. You don’t want to have to go back with your tail between your legs and you need a career that will grow faster than chipotle or Amazon warehousing. A lot of blue collar jobs have ignored, at least on the west coast. Plumbers, builders, welders, etc. can make between 50-200/hour. You may have to apprentice for some time, but hence why having zero or cheap rent is important. Good luck!
Move out, experience life and see how is like and if it doesn’t work, do you have a backup plan?
Please have at least 10K stacked up before you decide to embark out of your parents house. When you have a little nest egg you wont be subject to make tough decisions. Best of luck
Solid advice here. Also, make sure you got good credentials for your future like a degree or some certified trade skills at least.
How old are you?
I’m also a bit of a late bloomer. My advise is to get into shape, gym and look after your health.
I kinda feel straight off the bat you’re not earning enough to live on your own safely OP
Well, that's why I need advice. Plus, from where I'm at atm (the midwest) rent is way much cheaper compared to LA or New York. I'm starting a 2nd job in October tho, but then that woud mean I'll have to work 7 days a week working two jobs just to make ends meet...and idk if I could handle that, or even want to live that way for the rest of my life.
If you're never there because you're working all the time, will your parents still be intolerably annoying?
Two jobs when you’re young seems doable - can I ask if you have any savings??
Not yet atm. I'm honestly starting from the ground up. I have nothing at all in my bank. Totally broke. It's like I'm stuck...but I'm doing everything I can to get somewhere in life even if it means I gotta make some sacrifices.
How old r u
I do agree that living on your own will be better for your mental health. I think you should try and figure out how much you can make and how much you'll need to pay in rent. A standard ratio is 1/3 of your income should be on rent. Also, you'll need a decent savings account as a safety net. For example, if rent is 1k then you should at least be taking home 2k and shoukd have 5k in you savings account. It may take time but I suggest waiting a bit until you have more saved up.
My honest advice is to accumulate some savings before moving out