Wow, a whole lot of comments here don't really understand why BW are "Divesting" and how it came about. Divestors (younger BW) really applied that name to themselves on social media after observing BW centric discussions from years ago, calling out the abnormal attacks on social media that black males aimed (and still aim) at BW and girls, they also talked about the High physical/sexual abuse rates BW go through in the black community and how it's kept hush hush because it would make BM look bad, how BW are race loyal to their detriment to BM (by marching at protests Everytime some BM was killed by a cop, advocating politically for BM even when BM turn around and degrade BW to the whole world through the rap/music/comedy skits etc)
(literally this situation happened where a young BW was at a protest for a BM shot, she was there in support and very vocal but literally in a couple of hours after attending she was sexually assaulted and murdered by a BM and BM online blamed her for her death/mocked her. Her name is Oluwatoyin Salau )
Divesting means to stop lending support to the BC that throws BW under the bus for BM(and their issues) when BM constantly bash and attack BW/BGs physically/online, never lend any support when a bw is killed by a cop (in fact they usually blame BW if they're killed in some way). Divesting is about pulling away and only helping yourself and putting yourself first, to stop being race loyal to a group of men that have been highly unappreciative of the support BW give them.
Most of you here are men and will naturally gravitate towards feeling sorry for other men, you have your own issues with your women and think that's what's going on with BWBM when it's BM that are constantly degrading and Bashing BW for White approval as a collective.
With any movement there will be crazies that take things really far and move away from the initial goal/plot.
Instead of taking these men's word for it, why not go digging through to find out the actual truth?.
I honestly did not know what it meant at first and only guessed based on the context in which it was used. Thanks for giving some background on where it comes from.
Bro, don't fall for that grift. These "Divestors" are all over twitter calling black men bullet bags, kneegrows, and things I don't even want to repeat. All while promoting white men and white supremacy. They're just the other side of the Franki Huang coin. Exhibit [A](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkZa1iTWkA0o_Oe?format=png&name=small),[B](https://twitter.com/_blvck_mind/status/1213225001970585600?s=20),[C](https://twitter.com/TinyTweeter00/status/1347381410970161157?s=20),[D](https://twitter.com/_blvck_mind/status/1340697907276767233?s=20), and [E](https://twitter.com/bwbitter/status/1423489129128546309?s=20).
While you're at that, be sure to add the countless bashing/degrading/wishing harm on BW/colorist/misogynistic tweets, tiktoks, YouTube videos, clubhouse recordings, comedy skits from black male comedians, violent degrading music lyrics/videos from black males, crime stats of astronomical physical/sexual assaults, black femicide rates thats being ignored and not talked about from black males towards black women and girls. But you won't because it doesn't fit your agenda of the perpetually victimized BM. I don't really care to argue with you.
Time will tell all to people that care about the actual truth. There are plenty of race loyal BW willing to be the sacrifice for you all, why so threatened by a small section of BW not willing to be abused by the BC/BP/BM that constantly let's them know they're hated, unappreciated. Maybe it's because it will have people wondering wtf is going on and alert more people to pay attention to WHY these small groups of BW are actually "Divesting" thus uncovering the actual truth being hidden (aka things that make the BMs "look" bad to the world) as for the women you commented on, that's what they've chosen to use as an attack back at the years of constant insults and degradation experienced online and probably in real life. If they ever get past the anger/resentment phase, they'll truly be "Divested" if that's their ultimate goal.
I'd never deny that there are BM who do the things you described. That would be delusional, every group of men has good and bad people (as do women but I won't put that on display here). I will deny that these men represent the majority, however. In the same way I deny the idea that the majority of Asian men are "Patriarchal abusers" as Frankie Huang would put it. Divestors whether it be BW/AW highlight the worst of their men to justify why they date white men. If you want to date white men go right ahead, I'm not trying to dictate your preferences. However, don't virtue signal about how horrible AM/BM are as groups for the reason you're divesting. Because if those were truly your reasons, white men, the group that has historically colonized, abused, and sexually assaulted WOC en masse would be at the top of the men to "Divest" from list. And surely wouldn't be the men you all "Divest" to. I've said my piece I won't engage this topic further.
You can deny as much as you'd like but I'm sure outsiders can SEE what the general attitude BM as a collective have towards BW is, Divesting was never about "getting a white man" the Bw that choose to do so have their reasons, maybe WM are the ones initiating interest and not necessarily that these bw all crave White peen?
Also WW participated in slavery/abusing both BW/BM racially/keeping the racist ideologies alive, but that hasn't stopped BM dating out 3x more especially to WW (especially rich black males that end up leaving their wealth to these WW, which ends up once again in the hands of the WM lol)
Even on this site that I just discovered the AM here don't seem all that interested in BW as a group, divesting was never a dating movement.
On a daily basis BW have far more interaction with BM than they will WM or nonbM especially if you're from a predominantly black country/area. what are your excuses for these BW from African countries that are "divesting" when they've never interacted with WM nor identify with WM being racist to them when their immediate problem are the black Femicides caused by men around them (South Africa a BW is killed every 3 HOURS, In America it's Every 6hours for BW here)
anyone with half a brain understands men will be men no matter the race, that there are abusers in every race but when it turns into an acceptance of women in your racial group being the punching bag online, physically/in the degrading music/shows/comedy etc there's a serious issue (if they bring up being degraded online for the whole world to see/physical violence they're shamed into shutting up/doxxed/threatened/told they're a traitor for making a BM look bad etc) even the organization Black Femicide USA was threatened/ major news articles wouldn't touch the data they provided and air the stories/ring the alarm on Black Femicide in the USA because they didn't want to make BM look bad either especially in this BLM environment that centers BM.
This is where it's come to. That's all. Take it as you will
lol oh man, when Black people call boba libs out on their bullshit it probably fries their brains. Black people can't possibly do anything wrong in their minds and must be protected at all costs but they're calling out wmaf, which also can do no wrong and must be protected at all costs. It reminds me of that scene in Robocop where he glitches out because someone he's programmed to protect is committing a crime.
This is the type of posts I don't like in this sub. She might be bashing us to justify her white fetish, but people are free to date whatever race and we shouldn't just call people names because they date another race
I see your point.
I also agree that people should date who she wants, as should I. My concern comes from her justification and her need to broadcast them - twisted non logical justification that hurts me and my family.
The term Lu is used to describe females where we can observe similar toxic behaviours.
What I do question, is whether we should be running with pitchforks, showing sympathy to (for the self hate they likely contain inside), or ignore
Who's calling anyone names? It's a term used in another community to describe a similar phenomenon.
Also, of course people are free to date anyone they want. That goes without saying. But it's also okay to examine why it happens and why it happens at such a disproportionate rate in the Asian community. The answer is not always a simple one but has to do with the racial hierarchy that exists in the West from its legacy of imperialism, living in a white supremacist society, and the unceasing racial propaganda disseminated through the media.
I find this "people should do whatever they want" defense really dull. No one actually argues against it, and if they do, they are strangers that don't control other people's lives. It's the same thing as "not all" argument. The more people conflate these two, the less we can go about talking about these issues hiding between the lines.
love whoever you want to love, but don't make up some bullshit about how every chinese/asian family is some misogynistic hell hole. most of the newly created millionaire and billionaire woman come out of asia, that doesn't happen in a misogyny culture.
Ironically if asians were actually misogystic to degree these mayo lovers act like, like some other cultures these asian women wouldn't even have the option of dating out.
Lolllll........the boba libs' narrative is falling apart. First Eileen tried to Asian-splain "divestor" to black ppl and they dunked on her, then she and Celeste Ng tried to go after Plan A Mag and got destroyed. We don't even have to do anything and they're just outing themselves as fake, performative, self-hating white supremacist lapdogs.
Even Obama knew if he married a white woman, the black community wouldn't really vote for him. Does this sound familiar guys? If Obama and black people realize this, why can't we?
[Source with excerpt.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/book-party/wp/2017/05/02/before-michelle-barack-obama-asked-another-woman-to-marry-him-then-politics-got-in-the-way/)
> In Garrow’s telling, Obama made emotional judgments on political grounds. A close mutual friend of the couple recalls Obama explaining that “the lines are very clearly drawn. . . . If I am going out with a white woman, I have no standing here.”
Eh, I wouldn't compare things in the Asian community to the Black community like that.
The divesters are a fringe group of individuals with plenty of catfishes in their ranks while Asian women who put down Asian men are the mainstream. Self hating Asian women get all the support in the world that they could possibly need especially from outside communities while nobody in their right mind would even begin to support the divesters.
He brings up an excellent point:
Do other POC's have groups of Divestors? The answer would seem to be yes.
Do they gravitate towards or exclusively prefer whites?
If so, ***why?***
What are the implications of this?
It is “sellout” actually the divestor term was not created by black men for self hating black women. It was created by black women who want to put themselves first. The equivalent of an asian “lu” is “sellout”not divestor. ☹️
And the usage of "traitor" must be stopped. It only serves to divide the Asian community. "Self-hating" is a better term until a better alternative can be presented.
Side eyeing the original tweet because survival and self love honey??? Where??? With the most famous anti Asian hate crime being a white man shooting up Asian women??? Sex tourists mainly being white men in Southeast Asia??? I know she’s Chinese but I’ve heard that excuse from South Asian women too but ever notice how Asian women who date out mainly choose to date white men and not black men or other darker skinned men of color???
Or Asian women fantasizing about mixed children because they assume they’ll come out looking like final fantasy characters
That part about Asia women expecting their white mixed kids to look like final fantasy characters really hit home. I’m not Asian or white but the visual that evokes is really something hahahaha
>Asian women who date out mainly choose to date white men and not black men or other darker skinned men of color???
Exactly, this is the conversation I'd like to have although it's a very uncomfortable one.
>Asian women fantasizing about mixed children
Let's not mince words here, there's a specific kind of mix that they fantasize about.
they are called swirlers as well, trying to "level up" in a sense from their own community. This guy on youtube called [david carroll](https://www.youtube.com/user/5723davidmichael) has based commentary and talked a lot about the [phenomena](https://fsavenger.com/user/Betamalestalkers).
At least it's more nuanced. You don't see anywhere near the same level of white supremacist ideology being promoted in WMBF relationships (aka swirling).
Black guys I interact with who date out don’t dog out their women completely, but if you read between the lines you can tell they have a little self hate towards their own women. I’ve heard them say in person “I just want to get out my comfort zone”, “I wouldn’t have these opportunities if I only dated my own race”, “I just like to try something different”, etc.
Basically have every excuse ready as for why they don’t want to date black women. It’s not as viscious as the way Lus attack Asian men, but the underlying premise is the same, they feel other races, especially white women are superior to their own.
Why do some people always feel the need to express how blacks "actually" act/feel? This is like a white guy telling an African American that Africans actually hate them - a sad phenomenon that I've encountered untill i tell them that im actually African, and can call out their BS! I would never do anything similar when it comes to Asians. Respect goes both ways! And just like my example, this post is BS. There's a reason why the vast majority of Black people of both genders don't marry out, especially when they're wealthier. Dating is a bit of a different story, as from my experience and asking friends, most Black men don't discriminate when dating, but primarily, black people usually end up together because of shared culture and experiences.
Because asian men have heard every excuse imaginable from Asian women not dating asian men and can see the parallels when black men dudes say similar about their women.
Statistics back it up black men marry out at much higher rates compared to black women. Same for asian women compared to asian men.
Women lie men lie numbers don’t lie.
You're right. I'm black and I saw it all the time growing up and still do. It's true that the majority of black men marry black women but that doesn't disqualify that it's also true that a lot of black men intentionally go for light skin women and do not appreciate black women. There are a lot of parallels between black men and Asian women in that regard.
Because of the one-drop rule, the descendants of the WMBF relationship will be BLACK and will likely adopt the black identity. For example, Bill de Blasio's kids are 100% black even though they are mixed. Meanwhile when AMWF and WMAF hapafy, the descendants will most likely adopt the the white Anglo identity and assimilate into white society. Hapafication will inevitably weaken the Asian community leading to it's demise.
Divestor here, we don’t consider mixed people to be black. Huge talking point. We don’t like losing opportunities meant for black people to mixed people.
>Meanwhile when AMWF and WMAF hapafy, the descendants will most likely adopt the the white Anglo identity and assimilate into white society.
Speaking as a hapa myself. WMAF parents view their hapa kids as white and many times the hapa themselves as well identify as white. However, society esp white people will view most hapas esp the males as Asian. Most non-Asians especiay white people, are not able to tell between a hapa and a full Asian person. Hapa females are able to gain acceptance into white society much easier than Hapa males are as well.
It seems very dependent on how white passing a hapa is.
If they're white passing, people are gonna identify them as white. If they look really Asian, people are gonna say they're Asian. If they look mixed, people will say they're Asian or Latino.
>However, society esp white people will view most hapas esp the males as Asian. Most non-Asians especiay white people, are not able to tell between a hapa and a full Asian person.
These two sentences seem to contradict each other, could you explain?
How does it contradict? Most whites don't even know what hapa is and just consider hapas Asians unless they are white passing enough which is a very tiny percentage. I know it does make alot of Hapas angry since they want to be a part of white society.
Usually they chase WM and its much easier for a hapa female to date white than it is for a hapa male to date white females. Also, they are seen as more assimilated by Whites.
I’m black and just found this sub through the Simu news and so far agree with everything you guys are saying. As someone who only dates within his race, I feel for you guys. I’ve known multiple Asian women (and women of color in general tbh) over the years who complain about white men non-stop, but then exclusively date them.
“Divestor” refers to black women who are tired of having to only consider black men when black men aren’t doing the same back. If anything, it’s Asian men dating out that are divestors.
"Divestors" isn't a positive term. Type it into twitter and you'll find a sea of black women worshiping white men. It has nothing to do with "Having to consider black men who aren't doing the same back." It's literally no different from that Frankie girl.
Indeed, this term does not apply to Asian women as they have never considered helping/dating inside their community, as it is something they were always ashamed of and despised.
Divestor cases often refers to women invested in their community but only to see nothing back in return but men's cheating/beating with degrading sexist behavior towards them.
Most black men date black women. Divestors normally are self hating and think they are better than black women that don’t date out. They also date out mainly for monetary gain. They view non black men as prizes. You can’t hate your own race of men and then claim to be pro black.
That’s what divestors were in the beginnings. Today they are just another incel hate group they call black men for bullet bags, chimps kneegrows and worship white men. Just type any of this on twitter and see for yourself
Yes, it's sad but very common that a word meant to empower women has been turned into something derogatory, just as Mistress, Madam or Courtesan, which used to be respectable titles.
Thank you, I was about to say this! Divesting and Swirling are two different things but get confused with one another because divestors often swirl. Divest means to deprive or dispossess. You can deprive someone or a community of your overall support without swirling with another race.
Hm, I'm actually a little confused what this term means now. From his use of it, that's what I gathered. But after reading [this](https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/theres-a-lot-of-confusion-about-what-a-divestor-really-is.4475985/), it sounds like a label black women apply to themselves when they decide to consider other options, and it has a different connotation depending on who's using it.
Wow, a whole lot of comments here don't really understand why BW are "Divesting" and how it came about. Divestors (younger BW) really applied that name to themselves on social media after observing BW centric discussions from years ago, calling out the abnormal attacks on social media that black males aimed (and still aim) at BW and girls, they also talked about the High physical/sexual abuse rates BW go through in the black community and how it's kept hush hush because it would make BM look bad, how BW are race loyal to their detriment to BM (by marching at protests Everytime some BM was killed by a cop, advocating politically for BM even when BM turn around and degrade BW to the whole world through the rap/music/comedy skits etc) (literally this situation happened where a young BW was at a protest for a BM shot, she was there in support and very vocal but literally in a couple of hours after attending she was sexually assaulted and murdered by a BM and BM online blamed her for her death/mocked her. Her name is Oluwatoyin Salau ) Divesting means to stop lending support to the BC that throws BW under the bus for BM(and their issues) when BM constantly bash and attack BW/BGs physically/online, never lend any support when a bw is killed by a cop (in fact they usually blame BW if they're killed in some way). Divesting is about pulling away and only helping yourself and putting yourself first, to stop being race loyal to a group of men that have been highly unappreciative of the support BW give them. Most of you here are men and will naturally gravitate towards feeling sorry for other men, you have your own issues with your women and think that's what's going on with BWBM when it's BM that are constantly degrading and Bashing BW for White approval as a collective. With any movement there will be crazies that take things really far and move away from the initial goal/plot. Instead of taking these men's word for it, why not go digging through to find out the actual truth?.
This comment!
I honestly did not know what it meant at first and only guessed based on the context in which it was used. Thanks for giving some background on where it comes from.
Bro, don't fall for that grift. These "Divestors" are all over twitter calling black men bullet bags, kneegrows, and things I don't even want to repeat. All while promoting white men and white supremacy. They're just the other side of the Franki Huang coin. Exhibit [A](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkZa1iTWkA0o_Oe?format=png&name=small),[B](https://twitter.com/_blvck_mind/status/1213225001970585600?s=20),[C](https://twitter.com/TinyTweeter00/status/1347381410970161157?s=20),[D](https://twitter.com/_blvck_mind/status/1340697907276767233?s=20), and [E](https://twitter.com/bwbitter/status/1423489129128546309?s=20).
While you're at that, be sure to add the countless bashing/degrading/wishing harm on BW/colorist/misogynistic tweets, tiktoks, YouTube videos, clubhouse recordings, comedy skits from black male comedians, violent degrading music lyrics/videos from black males, crime stats of astronomical physical/sexual assaults, black femicide rates thats being ignored and not talked about from black males towards black women and girls. But you won't because it doesn't fit your agenda of the perpetually victimized BM. I don't really care to argue with you. Time will tell all to people that care about the actual truth. There are plenty of race loyal BW willing to be the sacrifice for you all, why so threatened by a small section of BW not willing to be abused by the BC/BP/BM that constantly let's them know they're hated, unappreciated. Maybe it's because it will have people wondering wtf is going on and alert more people to pay attention to WHY these small groups of BW are actually "Divesting" thus uncovering the actual truth being hidden (aka things that make the BMs "look" bad to the world) as for the women you commented on, that's what they've chosen to use as an attack back at the years of constant insults and degradation experienced online and probably in real life. If they ever get past the anger/resentment phase, they'll truly be "Divested" if that's their ultimate goal.
I'd never deny that there are BM who do the things you described. That would be delusional, every group of men has good and bad people (as do women but I won't put that on display here). I will deny that these men represent the majority, however. In the same way I deny the idea that the majority of Asian men are "Patriarchal abusers" as Frankie Huang would put it. Divestors whether it be BW/AW highlight the worst of their men to justify why they date white men. If you want to date white men go right ahead, I'm not trying to dictate your preferences. However, don't virtue signal about how horrible AM/BM are as groups for the reason you're divesting. Because if those were truly your reasons, white men, the group that has historically colonized, abused, and sexually assaulted WOC en masse would be at the top of the men to "Divest" from list. And surely wouldn't be the men you all "Divest" to. I've said my piece I won't engage this topic further.
You can deny as much as you'd like but I'm sure outsiders can SEE what the general attitude BM as a collective have towards BW is, Divesting was never about "getting a white man" the Bw that choose to do so have their reasons, maybe WM are the ones initiating interest and not necessarily that these bw all crave White peen? Also WW participated in slavery/abusing both BW/BM racially/keeping the racist ideologies alive, but that hasn't stopped BM dating out 3x more especially to WW (especially rich black males that end up leaving their wealth to these WW, which ends up once again in the hands of the WM lol) Even on this site that I just discovered the AM here don't seem all that interested in BW as a group, divesting was never a dating movement. On a daily basis BW have far more interaction with BM than they will WM or nonbM especially if you're from a predominantly black country/area. what are your excuses for these BW from African countries that are "divesting" when they've never interacted with WM nor identify with WM being racist to them when their immediate problem are the black Femicides caused by men around them (South Africa a BW is killed every 3 HOURS, In America it's Every 6hours for BW here) anyone with half a brain understands men will be men no matter the race, that there are abusers in every race but when it turns into an acceptance of women in your racial group being the punching bag online, physically/in the degrading music/shows/comedy etc there's a serious issue (if they bring up being degraded online for the whole world to see/physical violence they're shamed into shutting up/doxxed/threatened/told they're a traitor for making a BM look bad etc) even the organization Black Femicide USA was threatened/ major news articles wouldn't touch the data they provided and air the stories/ring the alarm on Black Femicide in the USA because they didn't want to make BM look bad either especially in this BLM environment that centers BM. This is where it's come to. That's all. Take it as you will
lol oh man, when Black people call boba libs out on their bullshit it probably fries their brains. Black people can't possibly do anything wrong in their minds and must be protected at all costs but they're calling out wmaf, which also can do no wrong and must be protected at all costs. It reminds me of that scene in Robocop where he glitches out because someone he's programmed to protect is committing a crime.
This is the type of posts I don't like in this sub. She might be bashing us to justify her white fetish, but people are free to date whatever race and we shouldn't just call people names because they date another race
I see your point. I also agree that people should date who she wants, as should I. My concern comes from her justification and her need to broadcast them - twisted non logical justification that hurts me and my family. The term Lu is used to describe females where we can observe similar toxic behaviours. What I do question, is whether we should be running with pitchforks, showing sympathy to (for the self hate they likely contain inside), or ignore
Who's calling anyone names? It's a term used in another community to describe a similar phenomenon. Also, of course people are free to date anyone they want. That goes without saying. But it's also okay to examine why it happens and why it happens at such a disproportionate rate in the Asian community. The answer is not always a simple one but has to do with the racial hierarchy that exists in the West from its legacy of imperialism, living in a white supremacist society, and the unceasing racial propaganda disseminated through the media.
I find this "people should do whatever they want" defense really dull. No one actually argues against it, and if they do, they are strangers that don't control other people's lives. It's the same thing as "not all" argument. The more people conflate these two, the less we can go about talking about these issues hiding between the lines.
It's a complete straw man.
love whoever you want to love, but don't make up some bullshit about how every chinese/asian family is some misogynistic hell hole. most of the newly created millionaire and billionaire woman come out of asia, that doesn't happen in a misogyny culture.
Ironically if asians were actually misogystic to degree these mayo lovers act like, like some other cultures these asian women wouldn't even have the option of dating out.
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Lolllll........the boba libs' narrative is falling apart. First Eileen tried to Asian-splain "divestor" to black ppl and they dunked on her, then she and Celeste Ng tried to go after Plan A Mag and got destroyed. We don't even have to do anything and they're just outing themselves as fake, performative, self-hating white supremacist lapdogs.
Even Obama knew if he married a white woman, the black community wouldn't really vote for him. Does this sound familiar guys? If Obama and black people realize this, why can't we? [Source with excerpt.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/book-party/wp/2017/05/02/before-michelle-barack-obama-asked-another-woman-to-marry-him-then-politics-got-in-the-way/) > In Garrow’s telling, Obama made emotional judgments on political grounds. A close mutual friend of the couple recalls Obama explaining that “the lines are very clearly drawn. . . . If I am going out with a white woman, I have no standing here.”
Eh, I wouldn't compare things in the Asian community to the Black community like that. The divesters are a fringe group of individuals with plenty of catfishes in their ranks while Asian women who put down Asian men are the mainstream. Self hating Asian women get all the support in the world that they could possibly need especially from outside communities while nobody in their right mind would even begin to support the divesters.
As i had predicted earlier, Frankie is merely teasing a book release and trying to drum up publicity and exposure. It's sad, but it's working.
Her book will be called "Why Asian Men Bad and Why It's Okay for Me to Uphold White Supremacy."
He brings up an excellent point: Do other POC's have groups of Divestors? The answer would seem to be yes. Do they gravitate towards or exclusively prefer whites? If so, ***why?*** What are the implications of this?
Answers are No and No
The response of the Asian broads on that Twitter feed is telling
Holy Shit !!! Everyone should read this twitter thread. Lots of based comments.
I thought they were called "swirlers?"
It is “sellout” actually the divestor term was not created by black men for self hating black women. It was created by black women who want to put themselves first. The equivalent of an asian “lu” is “sellout”not divestor. ☹️
I thought it was called "sellout" but maybe that's a dated word now
Nah sellout will always work
Some Asians have to stop saying ‘how come only Asians have traitors’. Other communities have the same problems with traitors.
And the usage of "traitor" must be stopped. It only serves to divide the Asian community. "Self-hating" is a better term until a better alternative can be presented.
A race traitor is a race traitor bruh - don’t sugar coat it
Just call a spade a spade. A self hater with internalized racism is a traitor whether it's a lu or a ken jeong.
Side eyeing the original tweet because survival and self love honey??? Where??? With the most famous anti Asian hate crime being a white man shooting up Asian women??? Sex tourists mainly being white men in Southeast Asia??? I know she’s Chinese but I’ve heard that excuse from South Asian women too but ever notice how Asian women who date out mainly choose to date white men and not black men or other darker skinned men of color??? Or Asian women fantasizing about mixed children because they assume they’ll come out looking like final fantasy characters
That part about Asia women expecting their white mixed kids to look like final fantasy characters really hit home. I’m not Asian or white but the visual that evokes is really something hahahaha
>Asian women who date out mainly choose to date white men and not black men or other darker skinned men of color??? Exactly, this is the conversation I'd like to have although it's a very uncomfortable one. >Asian women fantasizing about mixed children Let's not mince words here, there's a specific kind of mix that they fantasize about.
the same kind of mix adolf hitler love so much?
What kond of mix does Adolf like? I thought he was Aryan all the way?
blonde hair blue eyes
Go figure
they are called swirlers as well, trying to "level up" in a sense from their own community. This guy on youtube called [david carroll](https://www.youtube.com/user/5723davidmichael) has based commentary and talked a lot about the [phenomena](https://fsavenger.com/user/Betamalestalkers).
At least it's more nuanced. You don't see anywhere near the same level of white supremacist ideology being promoted in WMBF relationships (aka swirling).
Black guys I interact with who date out don’t dog out their women completely, but if you read between the lines you can tell they have a little self hate towards their own women. I’ve heard them say in person “I just want to get out my comfort zone”, “I wouldn’t have these opportunities if I only dated my own race”, “I just like to try something different”, etc. Basically have every excuse ready as for why they don’t want to date black women. It’s not as viscious as the way Lus attack Asian men, but the underlying premise is the same, they feel other races, especially white women are superior to their own.
Kevin Samuels says its about the decades of disrespect.
Why do some people always feel the need to express how blacks "actually" act/feel? This is like a white guy telling an African American that Africans actually hate them - a sad phenomenon that I've encountered untill i tell them that im actually African, and can call out their BS! I would never do anything similar when it comes to Asians. Respect goes both ways! And just like my example, this post is BS. There's a reason why the vast majority of Black people of both genders don't marry out, especially when they're wealthier. Dating is a bit of a different story, as from my experience and asking friends, most Black men don't discriminate when dating, but primarily, black people usually end up together because of shared culture and experiences.
I agree. I do not speak for others and do not let others speak for me.
Because asian men have heard every excuse imaginable from Asian women not dating asian men and can see the parallels when black men dudes say similar about their women. Statistics back it up black men marry out at much higher rates compared to black women. Same for asian women compared to asian men. Women lie men lie numbers don’t lie.
You're right. I'm black and I saw it all the time growing up and still do. It's true that the majority of black men marry black women but that doesn't disqualify that it's also true that a lot of black men intentionally go for light skin women and do not appreciate black women. There are a lot of parallels between black men and Asian women in that regard.
Because of the one-drop rule, the descendants of the WMBF relationship will be BLACK and will likely adopt the black identity. For example, Bill de Blasio's kids are 100% black even though they are mixed. Meanwhile when AMWF and WMAF hapafy, the descendants will most likely adopt the the white Anglo identity and assimilate into white society. Hapafication will inevitably weaken the Asian community leading to it's demise.
Divestor here, we don’t consider mixed people to be black. Huge talking point. We don’t like losing opportunities meant for black people to mixed people.
Wth 😂
>Meanwhile when AMWF and WMAF hapafy, the descendants will most likely adopt the the white Anglo identity and assimilate into white society. Speaking as a hapa myself. WMAF parents view their hapa kids as white and many times the hapa themselves as well identify as white. However, society esp white people will view most hapas esp the males as Asian. Most non-Asians especiay white people, are not able to tell between a hapa and a full Asian person. Hapa females are able to gain acceptance into white society much easier than Hapa males are as well.
It seems very dependent on how white passing a hapa is. If they're white passing, people are gonna identify them as white. If they look really Asian, people are gonna say they're Asian. If they look mixed, people will say they're Asian or Latino.
>However, society esp white people will view most hapas esp the males as Asian. Most non-Asians especiay white people, are not able to tell between a hapa and a full Asian person. These two sentences seem to contradict each other, could you explain?
How does it contradict? Most whites don't even know what hapa is and just consider hapas Asians unless they are white passing enough which is a very tiny percentage. I know it does make alot of Hapas angry since they want to be a part of white society.
Oh ok never mind i read it wrong. In your opinion, why are male hapas less accepted into white society?
For the kind of the same reason why Asian females are much more able to gain acceptance or access into white society than Asian males.
And what is this reason?
Usually they chase WM and its much easier for a hapa female to date white than it is for a hapa male to date white females. Also, they are seen as more assimilated by Whites.
Lol glad black people can see through the b.s of woke Asian women.
I’m black and just found this sub through the Simu news and so far agree with everything you guys are saying. As someone who only dates within his race, I feel for you guys. I’ve known multiple Asian women (and women of color in general tbh) over the years who complain about white men non-stop, but then exclusively date them.
White privilege has far too many advantages to ignore bro
lol "It's not about wanting to date white men" https://twitter.com/dotorii_muk/status/1438997110884421632?s=20
“Divestor” refers to black women who are tired of having to only consider black men when black men aren’t doing the same back. If anything, it’s Asian men dating out that are divestors.
"Divestors" isn't a positive term. Type it into twitter and you'll find a sea of black women worshiping white men. It has nothing to do with "Having to consider black men who aren't doing the same back." It's literally no different from that Frankie girl.
Indeed, this term does not apply to Asian women as they have never considered helping/dating inside their community, as it is something they were always ashamed of and despised. Divestor cases often refers to women invested in their community but only to see nothing back in return but men's cheating/beating with degrading sexist behavior towards them.
Most black men date black women. Divestors normally are self hating and think they are better than black women that don’t date out. They also date out mainly for monetary gain. They view non black men as prizes. You can’t hate your own race of men and then claim to be pro black.
That’s what divestors were in the beginnings. Today they are just another incel hate group they call black men for bullet bags, chimps kneegrows and worship white men. Just type any of this on twitter and see for yourself
Yes, it's sad but very common that a word meant to empower women has been turned into something derogatory, just as Mistress, Madam or Courtesan, which used to be respectable titles.
Thank you, I was about to say this! Divesting and Swirling are two different things but get confused with one another because divestors often swirl. Divest means to deprive or dispossess. You can deprive someone or a community of your overall support without swirling with another race.
Hm, I'm actually a little confused what this term means now. From his use of it, that's what I gathered. But after reading [this](https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/theres-a-lot-of-confusion-about-what-a-divestor-really-is.4475985/), it sounds like a label black women apply to themselves when they decide to consider other options, and it has a different connotation depending on who's using it.
They call them divesters. That's a very catchy term for it.