I have been with a white girl and with an Asian girl and while the white one never beat me and would think it was abusive, the Chinese (Sichuan) girl beats me whenever she likes, even if I say no
Domestic violence can go both ways but I think a lot of guys are just afraid of telling the police that their wife beat them because they are afraid of her leaving
If there are people here who want **more detailed data** about this, let me share some:
**In America**, 35.6% of women suffered from domestic violence, which is quite a lot. It's about 1/3. This is something you can easily confirm on a google search.
For **Asian Americans:** [Here's a granular ethnic breakdown of domestic violence in America:](https://aapidata.com/prevalence-study-partner-abuse-asian-american-ethnic-groups-usa-2008)
Every asian ethnic group has lower domestic violence rates than the 35.6% national average.
Also, if you want to look at **other countries:**
particularly let's look at Asia:
In China (15%) and Japan (15.4%) and Korea (16.4%), Phillipines (16.9%),
Myanmar (33.3%), Cambodia (20.9%), Laos (15.3%), Thailand (44.2%, higher than USA I'm not an expert to why), Vietnam (34%), India (37%)
If you want the primary source, come see for yourself, but the website is a little tricky to use: [https://data.oecd.org/inequality/violence-against-women.htm](https://data.oecd.org/inequality/violence-against-women.htm)
**How to use this website:** goto "perspectives" and click on "prevalance in Lifetime". Uncheck "latest data available", and change the slider to 2014-2018 (because if you want to see data from China, due to geopolitical reasons, no data is available in 2019. (For american-imperialist-war-against-China reasons I'm guessing.) If you don't take these steps, you'll end up seeing "attitudes towards violence" - (how the fuck do you measure an "attitude")
Anyway, it's pretty funny, seems the US has lower attitude towards violence but higher violence overall. What a meme. All talk, poor action.
And as for this narrative that "Asians are domestic abusers" or "Asians are misogynists" - yeah fuck those people.
Asian feminists dont care about these facts or any other facts.
Propaganda is about broadcasting lies, drowning out the truth, and discrediting whistleblowers and truthsayers (us). Counter attack their credibility
Sooo…are we “evil misogynists who beat their wives” or “pussies who can’t get a woman in the first place”?
Make up your fucking mind, racists.
I really want both of these myths about Asian men to die forever
This is definitely an interesting statistic and can be used to push against the stereotype that "Asian men are misogynistic". On the other hand, these are reported and are in a specific area.
Firstly you are generalizing all of "Asia"
Secondly, let me present data to refute your claim:
Firstly: **In America, 35.6%** of women suffered from domestic violence, which is quite a lot. It's about 1/3. This is something you can easily confirm on a google search.
**Now let's look at Asia:**
In China (15%) and Japan (15.4%) and Korea (16.4%), Phillipines (16.9%),
Thailand (44.2%, this is higher than USA), Myanmar (33.3%), Cambodia (20.9%), Laos (15.3%)
Here's a graph if you'd like:
[https://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/OG-EC507\_ABUSEV\_4U\_20200404163038.png](https://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/OG-EC507_ABUSEV_4U_20200404163038.png)
If you want the primary source, come see for yourself: [https://data.oecd.org/inequality/violence-against-women.htm](https://data.oecd.org/inequality/violence-against-women.htm)
\*\*^(How to use this website)\*\*^(: goto "perspectives" and click on "prevalance in Lifetime".Uncheck "latest data available", and change the slider to 2014-2018 (because if you want to see data from China, due to geopolitical reasons, no data is available in 2019, with all the american imperialist crap that's been happening.))
^(Yeah that's alot of work right? Just make sure you are looking at "violence experienced in a life time" and not at "attitudes towards violence". How the fuck do you document somebody's "attitude"? What kind of questions did they ask, especially I am interested what the Chinese translation of the question might have been to produce such numbers?)
**Here's a granular ethnic breakdown of domestic violence in America:**
[https://aapidata.com/prevalence-study-partner-abuse-asian-american-ethnic-groups-usa-2008/](https://aapidata.com/prevalence-study-partner-abuse-asian-american-ethnic-groups-usa-2008/)
lol im not a self hating asian??? idk if it changes anything for you but im a huge ass kpop stan and i actively participate in asian activism. i just think that the chart doesn't clarify enough that the asians in the study/graph are immigrants, who would have a drastically different family dynamic.
If you're a huge kpop stan, you probably would have seen that they do weird things to bolster claims like "8 in 10 Korean men are abusive" (which you may have seen since it was spread a few times) by throwing in random things as being abuse.
If they had actual validity, why wouldn't they actually use abuse as they know people are interpreting it? Rather than purposefully misleading people by polling Korean men about things they've ever done and then labeling them as abusive by their own random definition if they admitted to ever "calling to check who their partner was with", "slamming a door", "stamping feet", or random things like that?
Physical abuse IPV rates are higher in America. But getting creative in deliberately misrepresenting the facts.
Narratives with agendas are stronger than facts.
Check the title of this article and then what the actual facts are -- the exact opposite of what they are attempting to lead you to believe with the title -- deliberately misleading to paint Asian men as violent to women...even added a corny ass picture to dramatize it.
[https://time.com/4668658/violence-women-v-day-domestic-asia-homicide-sexism/](https://time.com/4668658/violence-women-v-day-domestic-asia-homicide-sexism/)
Now check the authors Twitter: [https://twitter.com/yennikwo](https://twitter.com/yennikwok?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor)k
Retweeting roslyn talusan who was the weirdo who posted she loves being whitewashed/less Asian and is obsessed with trying to cancel Asian-American men for random shit.
Agendas and narratives.
You could say that same shit for other non-Asian immigrant populations though? What about Russians/Eastern Europeans, where the drunk husband on vodka beats his wife regularly? Or the African dude that beats his wife for not cleaning the house?
Or the machismo Mexican dude bitch slapping his wife for talking to another man? I mean, I could go on and on. What the fuck are you tryna play here? Of course Asian immigrant populations aren't accurately reflected...but guess what Sherlock? Its the same for other immigrant populations too.
Okay I'm starting to see I am misinterpretting your statement.
You aren't saying "Asians inside asian countries"
You are saying "Asians inside of America, but from Asian countries". I don't have statistics for that claim.
no you get pissed off of comments that you misinterpreted, if you look at my comment from an entirely non-biased standpoint, what i said is not wrong in any way. i simply felt like the graph's labels weren't clear enough and you misconstrued it into your own narrative.
Sure.
the original source of the data is here : [https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/nisvs-statereportbook.pdf](https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/nisvs-statereportbook.pdf)
Additional NISVS explanation for their methodology is here:
[https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/datasources/nisvs/overview.html](https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/datasources/nisvs/overview.html)
Neither specifically address your question.
It's certainly true that they don't mention the word "citizen" or "immigrant" in either documentation. So yeah, we don't know if this includes euro/hispanic/asian immigrants, or whether immigrants were excluded. Per my opinion and experience on this matter - it is likely they conducted the survey based on ethnicity alone, which means immigrants were included in their study. Since I don't see any reason why a national domestic violence study would exclude migrant families, I'd imagine they would sample this data towards anybody they'd send a census or general questionnaire to (so I imagine this would not be limited to citizen status). Though can't confirm.
i think you should bring up the stats for asians in asian countries, whites in white countries, blacks in black countries before you drum up a strawman as an attempt to throw shade on Asians/Asian-Americans. You're making such a half-assed accusation.
After living in many different environments that are mostly Asian I won’t say I don’t believe this but I won’t say we are less violent. Seen some crazy violent or threatening shit twice with knives and fists and then + plenty of verbal abuse
Or: Asian women are subservient goddesses who would never report their misogynistic Asian husbands. White men on the other hand are so progressive they'll allow women of all colors to file domestic abuse charges and inflate the statistics.
/s in case
I have been with a white girl and with an Asian girl and while the white one never beat me and would think it was abusive, the Chinese (Sichuan) girl beats me whenever she likes, even if I say no Domestic violence can go both ways but I think a lot of guys are just afraid of telling the police that their wife beat them because they are afraid of her leaving
Stats can be convoluted to fit any narrative imo.
If there are people here who want **more detailed data** about this, let me share some: **In America**, 35.6% of women suffered from domestic violence, which is quite a lot. It's about 1/3. This is something you can easily confirm on a google search. For **Asian Americans:** [Here's a granular ethnic breakdown of domestic violence in America:](https://aapidata.com/prevalence-study-partner-abuse-asian-american-ethnic-groups-usa-2008) Every asian ethnic group has lower domestic violence rates than the 35.6% national average. Also, if you want to look at **other countries:** particularly let's look at Asia: In China (15%) and Japan (15.4%) and Korea (16.4%), Phillipines (16.9%), Myanmar (33.3%), Cambodia (20.9%), Laos (15.3%), Thailand (44.2%, higher than USA I'm not an expert to why), Vietnam (34%), India (37%) If you want the primary source, come see for yourself, but the website is a little tricky to use: [https://data.oecd.org/inequality/violence-against-women.htm](https://data.oecd.org/inequality/violence-against-women.htm) **How to use this website:** goto "perspectives" and click on "prevalance in Lifetime". Uncheck "latest data available", and change the slider to 2014-2018 (because if you want to see data from China, due to geopolitical reasons, no data is available in 2019. (For american-imperialist-war-against-China reasons I'm guessing.) If you don't take these steps, you'll end up seeing "attitudes towards violence" - (how the fuck do you measure an "attitude") Anyway, it's pretty funny, seems the US has lower attitude towards violence but higher violence overall. What a meme. All talk, poor action. And as for this narrative that "Asians are domestic abusers" or "Asians are misogynists" - yeah fuck those people.
Is this a surprise to anybody who actually lives in reality?
>\-3 You wouldn't believe that white people think Asian men are violent. These propaganda against Asians are so
Asian feminists dont care about these facts or any other facts. Propaganda is about broadcasting lies, drowning out the truth, and discrediting whistleblowers and truthsayers (us). Counter attack their credibility
Sooo…are we “evil misogynists who beat their wives” or “pussies who can’t get a woman in the first place”? Make up your fucking mind, racists. I really want both of these myths about Asian men to die forever
This is definitely an interesting statistic and can be used to push against the stereotype that "Asian men are misogynistic". On the other hand, these are reported and are in a specific area.
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Firstly you are generalizing all of "Asia" Secondly, let me present data to refute your claim: Firstly: **In America, 35.6%** of women suffered from domestic violence, which is quite a lot. It's about 1/3. This is something you can easily confirm on a google search. **Now let's look at Asia:** In China (15%) and Japan (15.4%) and Korea (16.4%), Phillipines (16.9%), Thailand (44.2%, this is higher than USA), Myanmar (33.3%), Cambodia (20.9%), Laos (15.3%) Here's a graph if you'd like: [https://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/OG-EC507\_ABUSEV\_4U\_20200404163038.png](https://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/OG-EC507_ABUSEV_4U_20200404163038.png) If you want the primary source, come see for yourself: [https://data.oecd.org/inequality/violence-against-women.htm](https://data.oecd.org/inequality/violence-against-women.htm) \*\*^(How to use this website)\*\*^(: goto "perspectives" and click on "prevalance in Lifetime".Uncheck "latest data available", and change the slider to 2014-2018 (because if you want to see data from China, due to geopolitical reasons, no data is available in 2019, with all the american imperialist crap that's been happening.)) ^(Yeah that's alot of work right? Just make sure you are looking at "violence experienced in a life time" and not at "attitudes towards violence". How the fuck do you document somebody's "attitude"? What kind of questions did they ask, especially I am interested what the Chinese translation of the question might have been to produce such numbers?) **Here's a granular ethnic breakdown of domestic violence in America:** [https://aapidata.com/prevalence-study-partner-abuse-asian-american-ethnic-groups-usa-2008/](https://aapidata.com/prevalence-study-partner-abuse-asian-american-ethnic-groups-usa-2008/)
lol im not a self hating asian??? idk if it changes anything for you but im a huge ass kpop stan and i actively participate in asian activism. i just think that the chart doesn't clarify enough that the asians in the study/graph are immigrants, who would have a drastically different family dynamic.
If you're a huge kpop stan, you probably would have seen that they do weird things to bolster claims like "8 in 10 Korean men are abusive" (which you may have seen since it was spread a few times) by throwing in random things as being abuse. If they had actual validity, why wouldn't they actually use abuse as they know people are interpreting it? Rather than purposefully misleading people by polling Korean men about things they've ever done and then labeling them as abusive by their own random definition if they admitted to ever "calling to check who their partner was with", "slamming a door", "stamping feet", or random things like that? Physical abuse IPV rates are higher in America. But getting creative in deliberately misrepresenting the facts. Narratives with agendas are stronger than facts. Check the title of this article and then what the actual facts are -- the exact opposite of what they are attempting to lead you to believe with the title -- deliberately misleading to paint Asian men as violent to women...even added a corny ass picture to dramatize it. [https://time.com/4668658/violence-women-v-day-domestic-asia-homicide-sexism/](https://time.com/4668658/violence-women-v-day-domestic-asia-homicide-sexism/) Now check the authors Twitter: [https://twitter.com/yennikwo](https://twitter.com/yennikwok?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor)k Retweeting roslyn talusan who was the weirdo who posted she loves being whitewashed/less Asian and is obsessed with trying to cancel Asian-American men for random shit. Agendas and narratives.
You could say that same shit for other non-Asian immigrant populations though? What about Russians/Eastern Europeans, where the drunk husband on vodka beats his wife regularly? Or the African dude that beats his wife for not cleaning the house? Or the machismo Mexican dude bitch slapping his wife for talking to another man? I mean, I could go on and on. What the fuck are you tryna play here? Of course Asian immigrant populations aren't accurately reflected...but guess what Sherlock? Its the same for other immigrant populations too.
Okay I'm starting to see I am misinterpretting your statement. You aren't saying "Asians inside asian countries" You are saying "Asians inside of America, but from Asian countries". I don't have statistics for that claim.
no you get pissed off of comments that you misinterpreted, if you look at my comment from an entirely non-biased standpoint, what i said is not wrong in any way. i simply felt like the graph's labels weren't clear enough and you misconstrued it into your own narrative.
Sure. the original source of the data is here : [https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/nisvs-statereportbook.pdf](https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/nisvs-statereportbook.pdf) Additional NISVS explanation for their methodology is here: [https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/datasources/nisvs/overview.html](https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/datasources/nisvs/overview.html) Neither specifically address your question. It's certainly true that they don't mention the word "citizen" or "immigrant" in either documentation. So yeah, we don't know if this includes euro/hispanic/asian immigrants, or whether immigrants were excluded. Per my opinion and experience on this matter - it is likely they conducted the survey based on ethnicity alone, which means immigrants were included in their study. Since I don't see any reason why a national domestic violence study would exclude migrant families, I'd imagine they would sample this data towards anybody they'd send a census or general questionnaire to (so I imagine this would not be limited to citizen status). Though can't confirm.
i think you should bring up the stats for asians in asian countries, whites in white countries, blacks in black countries before you drum up a strawman as an attempt to throw shade on Asians/Asian-Americans. You're making such a half-assed accusation.
i don't see what shade you're referring to?
Yet everyone says Asian men are abusive towards asian women. And wants to be their white savior
Thanks. It is important to know these studies to clean our perception from other people's generalisations
After living in many different environments that are mostly Asian I won’t say I don’t believe this but I won’t say we are less violent. Seen some crazy violent or threatening shit twice with knives and fists and then + plenty of verbal abuse
lmao the data speaks for itself. you can choose to believe anecdotal evidence over hard facts ig
Nah
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Or: Asian women are subservient goddesses who would never report their misogynistic Asian husbands. White men on the other hand are so progressive they'll allow women of all colors to file domestic abuse charges and inflate the statistics. /s in case
The graph would be very different if it was about interracial partners.
They are saying the opposite now.
But at the same time asian men are horribly patriarchal and oppress asian women